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When should i really use Smart Stabilisation?

Should i use it when capturing photos with flash on ?

apparently this is what you should do:
[good light][day photos]
NO Smart Stablisation
NO flash
AUTO mode is great
[low light][night photos]
YES Smart Stabilisation
NO/YES flash = try it with NO first if u want natural photo and see if its acceptable photo.
Otherwise it is strongly recommended to use flash at night or at low light conditions
AUTO mode is OK /or Can try adjusting iso/exposure/etc settings

aliguu said:
apparently this is what you should do:
[good light][day photos]
NO Smart Stablisation
NO flash
AUTO mode is great
[low light][night photos]
YES Smart Stabilisation
NO/YES flash = try it with NO first if u want natural photo and see if its acceptable photo.
Otherwise it is strongly recommended to use flash at night or at low light conditions
AUTO mode is OK /or Can try adjusting iso/exposure/etc settings
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Great , but when taking night photos with flash on , should image optimisation be on or off ?

What's image optimization? U mean highest pic quality?

What Samsung calls smart stabilization it's not real stabilization to begin with. In order to have real image stabilization for still pictures you need either optical stabilization in the lens or sensor which, as far as I know Note 3 doesn't have. What "smart stabilization" does is take quick burst of shots and combine them into one low noise shot, which is more like special form of HDR. In video mode they're using digital stabilization, when lets say first frame is taken from center of the sensor and the next frame from different area according to your hand shake, so both frames align properly. I would say you should experiment and see what works and what doesn't. With static picture, smart stabilization should work just fine, with any type of movement in the frame things will start getting tricky, but really experimenting is the way to go.

Alternative Camera Apps

Hi,
I noticed that stock camera app is slow while taking pictures so I was wondering if there are some 3rd party apps that takes photos faster.
If possible,I'd like futher features in the apps :
-zero shutter delay / zero shutter lag
-infinite focus
-macro
-hdr
-panorama (well made)
-burst (infinite or 15+ pics)
-basic filter
-maybe other ?
Please share the name of your downloaded camera apps.
SAMSUNG Galaxy Note 3 neo

Try the lenovo app . It may not be snappy like Google camera but has a good number of features

Here's my camera apps list :
-Snap Camera TRIAL (for fast pics,burst mode,and continuous focus)
-A Better Camera FREE (for HDR,best shot and pre-shot)
-Google Camera (for 360 photos and panorama)
-Camera MX (For Some Filters)
-Camera 360 (For Some Filters)
Apps are in order to picture-taking speed but sometimes photos are not fine in terms of resolution so if you are using other fast camera apps,please tell me.
It doesn't matter if I have to change 2 or more apps for a 360° usage.

camera
try google camera . as its giving good results

Thank you i should try this one. My camera is slow and always stuck. Sometimes i need to restart my phone to work again

Camera2 api

It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.

try snap camera from the store it have a option to enable..used the app if I was on aosp rom with the m8

Good to see

I forget where, but this was actually confirmed a looooooong time ago (well... long in tech time. Couple of weeks ago though).

I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.

Dovigoldberger said:
It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
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Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)

Dovigoldberger said:
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
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It does, but due to driver limitations, the longest shutter you can choose in Manual Camera app is 1/10. The longest shutter the S6 and edge is allowed to use (when ISO is manually set in the stock camera app) is 1/7. And when Manual Camera opens, WB is all green, so you need to long press WB to make it normal. There is now RAW support wither.
Right now the best camera SW for the S6 and edge is the stock, which is extremely fast to open, very quick to focus and snap, and offers a wide variety of options including manual settings, without shutter control. The latter is a pity, but without long exposures, you can just indirectly control it via ISO, either way, you are maxed out at 1/7. On the bright side... the lens is very bright, offering dramatically better lit details at the same SP and ISO than the S5, Note 4 or One M9, and it makes it a solid snapper indoors. Overall camera2 API is a mixed bag at it's current state and I hope full manual control comes soon with long shutter options.

Not sure this is because of camera 2 API or not, but you guys notice you can now separate auto focus from exposure point in pro mode? You can press and hold to lock the focus point, while shifting the exposure point to elsewhere on the screen. Makes it much better while shooting in situations where background and foreground are in vastly different exposure brackets.

http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/

"Manual camera" app doesn't work with S6
vincent2167 said:
Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
... link ...
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
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I Installed "Manual camera" app (compatibility app said that it would work) but it doesn't work.
"Manual camera" interface appears, turns green and freezes, and phone either reboots or app
just shuts down. Camera gets a little warm too.
Was hoping to get DNG files from S6, but doesn't look good.
Very disappointed about this.
Uninstalled app and was refunded.

Thanks for the feedback!

I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.

Jason_V said:
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
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I don't think there's RAW support for any non-Nexus phone (maybe one of the Chinese ones, but not from the major OEMs).
Also, doesn't the shutter top out at 1/10 or 1/7?

Yeah when putting it into raw and gpeg you will get a crash we have to wait for Samsung to do an update . I have a feeling that the ois is the reason samsung cannot alow shutter speed variation as even dslr cameras don't use image stabilization when it's on long exposure and as ois cannot be switched of manually then this will be a problem .

Possible Camera2 API bug.

Hello, all!
This is a little specific, but I was hoping that perhaps other LG G6 users could help me test for this problem to figure out whether it's affecting all the phones/firmwares or is specific to mine.
Basically what happens is that in any camera app, except the native one, if you use specific manual settings (so, through the Camera2 API) there's a bug that changes the value on its own. Perhaps the easiest way to check it is using Open Camera:
1) Switch to video mode (camera choice does not matter).
2) Pick the exposure icon, set ISO to 50 and shutter speed to 1/20
3) Start recording video...
4) On my device after 5-10 seconds of recording the screen turns black (or nearly black) as the exposure speed drops to ~1/10000.
Touching the screen to refocus fixes it for a moment, then it jumps back to ~1/10000.
Basically ISO50, shutter range 1/20-1/30 will cause this. I have seen this in any app that allowed manual settings, like Open Camera, ProShot, Hedgecam 2, AZ Camera, Footej camera etc. Some of them turn black, others just crash/freeze. Sounds like an API bug to me.
I'm on Android version 8.0.0, Software version: V20c-EUR-XX installed through OTA.
Would really appreciate if someone could also try this.

My minimum shutter speed is 1/30... This with stock camera........ Stock oreo by OTA v20c.
No problem with recording.

vs0587 said:
My minimum shutter speed is 1/30... This with stock camera........ Stock oreo by OTA v20c.
No problem with recording.
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Thanks for taking the time to check, but the stock camera works ok. It's the others that have this problem. Like Open Camera or HedgeCam2. The reason I want to use those is they recently added an option to change image processing (noise reduction, edge enhancement) so if you turn those down and film video with them you actually get nice, natural looking video and not the overprocessed watercolor look that the stock camera (and most other apps) provide. And if we go for a "cinematic" 24fps look then the Shutter speed could often be 1/24 or so.
Since I have seen some threads looking for a way to get cleaner video I'll attach two snapshots from a video - one with stock camera (and those crazy cartoon edges) and another from HedgeCam 2.

Google Cam 6.2 /6.1 broken after taking some HDR+ enhanced Shots Any Fix ?

I have been using Asus zenfone max pro m1 6gb with official pie .53 I tried lot of gcam version from different developers .
and I noticed , after taking some shots using HDR+ enhanced mode camera portrait mode ,HDR+ enhanced mode and night mode are not working or the shutter goes blind also night mode view finder goes black .this fixed by a device restart fixes and it not solving by cache clear and data clear of cam app data .
I have tried almost all developers Gcams
the_dise
bulkin043/innocent parrot
blackrider
BSG
arnova8
but all have this issue with HDR+ enhanced
So people those who are using Gcam without these issues comment your Gcam link.
or test it in your device gcam mods has this issues or no issues at all .
EDIT: I hope this might be the issue if everyone gets the same issue
Edit 2; found a. Temporary fix
Temporary fix
Update 1: it's happening due to DSP processing, use arnova cam with DSP or hex process off
Sabre is a merge method created by Google that improves photo quality on some modes. Some call it "super resolution" because of the sharpness/detail improvements. It's used by Google for Night Sight, but some GCam mods also use it for zoomed photos and HDR+ Enhanced. Works with the RAW10 format (other RAW formats may result in black photos).
Sometimes Sabre isn't supported by all cameras and Google Camera will crash after taking a picture. In this case, the only solution is to disable Sabre (only available on some mods) and restart the app.

Try this
Replying from Max Pro M1 6gb

It is old version I am using latest 6.1 ..
After trying some APK I found out a arnova version which has the sabre switch .. so testing with the option off