App power Monitor effectiveness? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Hi all,
I was checking various threads on how Battery Management apps, maybe CleanMaster even has not much effect on the battery life because Android M and above already has a decent method to do this.
Now that I have the S8, I had the Battery --> Power Monitor App enabled always.
Do you guys think that this App from Samsung has a real effect?

meshaun said:
Hi all,
I was checking various threads on how Battery Management apps, maybe CleanMaster even has not much effect on the battery life because Android M and above already has a decent method to do this.
Now that I have the S8, I had the Battery --> Power Monitor App enabled always.
Do you guys think that this App from Samsung has a real effect?
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Looks like it automatically puts apps to sleep after 3 days if they were not being used. I personally don't think that this App Power Monitor is doing much to save battery life. I left it on default setting of turned on.
When we use an app and after even closing the app, it may become stuck in the memory and consume resources, so that is when we see decrease in battery life and the device may get even hot. If the app hasn't been used for some time, there is no reason for it to consume battery life unless it was written improperly, has a service that is always in memory and listening or waiting for some notification. Example Navigation app while not in use, should not consume much, but app such as Facebook/Messenger will.

For me, to improve battery life
uninstall all booster, cleaner, battery saver and anti virus apps
uninstall facebook and messenger (terrible apps) and instead use facebook on web browser like chrome and allow fb notifications on the browser
and instead of killing, fc or disable apps etc.. , disable wifi Bluetooth and nfc when not using them, set gps to battery saving mode and on gps settings under enhanced precision disable bluetooth and wifi search options. Try to let the brightness of the screen not too high and uninstall apps you never use
Best way to improve battery is not with a magical app but you

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Android running apps behavior

Ok, I have the task killer app, but not sure how to determine what apps are ok to have running in the background and not suck up juice...
Seems odd to me that all the apps, even some that have an 'exit' menu item still linger after closing.
I searched about this forum (and wiki), but did not see similar questions.
It's probably so obvious that it doesn't register...
Thx!
Don't kill things like Alarm Clock, Messages, Touch Input, etc. Background apps only suck juice and use data if the app's themselves connect to the internet or use background data, if you aren't using background data, then disable it (there are third-party apps to toggle it mobile data and GPS on and off through widgets).
Personally, I used a task-killer and thought it would extend my batter but your battery life doesn't go down any faster killing tasks. My phone runs faster and smoother with it uninstalled and my battery was mostly draining because I had mobile networking on. Turn that off when you aren't using it (including GPS) and your battery life will increase two-fold. Not as much to do with background apps as you think.
Ok, thanks!
I have to Rogers too, but in my readings, everyone has said use the task killer, so I thought that was standard operating procedure. Then surprised a stock system didn't have anything like that installed.
I had left wifi and gps enabled on my Pure (Topaz) and battery life wasn't that bad. Would turn off when not in use. Does this one just stay on all the time?
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It will stay on all the time unless you turn it off via Settings or a third-party widget installed through the marketplace. As said in a few topics, Android is a Linux based OS meaning it's meant to handle the loads of apps running at the same time, it's how Linux handles RAM that makes Android fast. Running background apps do not mean they are literally running in the background, like in windows when you open 18 different windows and minimize a few, the programs are still running full capacity. Linux saves the applications settings and puts the application on 'idle' or a 'sleep' mode that allows the application to run in the background without it affecting battery life much. (I believe that's how it works.)
Don't worry about the task managers and just get some third-party toggle widgets installed from the market place.
I should have been more clear in my original question, sorry.
I'm quite familiar with *IX, been using / running / admin since 86.
I was mostly concerned with misbehaving apps (apps in background that continue to chew cycles), or devices that do not go idle when not in use. Generally unusual stuff that will drain the battery, not necessarily the obvious.
My experience with Android prior to this phone with with Android 2.0 as a work in progress on the HTC Topaz (which I am selling), and I constantly used task killer. I'm using it as a bad reference, I know it was in early stages of devel, but it was hard to tell what was draining the battery (and it got very warm).
I just unlocked my Sapphire last night and so far am very happy with it.
One thing that I wondered: is the expectation that if it gets slow, or if memory/swap starts to run low/out, you should reboot it? I guess that is why there is no task killer initially installed?

[SOLUTION]Increase battery life on CyanogenMod Alpha 8

Guyz, i found a way which helps increase battery life on CyanogenMod by Marcel(THNX to him).
I was wondering whether an app closes when we press back button,so i needed a task manager,but cyanogen doesn't have a task manager so i downloaded one from market and so many apps were open ,almost all apps were open.
So i killed them all and battery life has pretty much increased since then.
Also i set some profiles in setcpu and in the task manager to kill unnecessary active apps every 30mins.
Both these methods combined....i am getting a good battery life.
However the battery drain on internet still doesn't solve.However the overall battery backup has increased.
Also check this out:Install a task manager(i downloaded advanced task manager)then restart your phone then as soon as the phone starts check out the number of active apps on task manager.Almost all are open.Hope Marcel fixes this bug
My battery now is at 70% after 12 hours from 100%...(i browsed facebook for some time and listend to 12-15 songs on headphone) and that too i didn't charge the 100% fully,so we can hope for more battery backup.
If anyone has any other ideas to increase battery life on cyanogenmod plz post here
vivekdumbre said:
Guyz, i found a way which helps increase battery life on CyanogenMod by Marcel(THNX to him).
I was wondering whether an app closes when we press back button,so i needed a task manager,but cyanogen doesn't have a task manager so i downloaded one from market and so many apps were open ,almost all apps were open.
So i killed them all and battery life has pretty much increased since then.
Also i set some profiles in setcpu and in the task manager to kill unnecessary active apps every 30mins.
Both these methods combined....i am getting a good battery life.
However the battery drain on internet still doesn't solve.However the overall battery backup has increased.
Also check this out:Install a task manager(i downloaded advanced task manager)then restart your phone then as soon as the phone starts check out the number of active apps on task manager.Almost all are open.Hope Marcel fixes this bug
My battery now is at 70% after 12 hours from 100%...(i browsed facebook for some time and listend to 12-15 songs on headphone) and that too i didn't charge the 100% fully,so we can hope for more battery backup.
If anyone has any other ideas to increase battery life on cyanogenmod plz post here
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Advanced task manager is not recommended by many devs in various different forums for some reason it's not good for the phone.
may i know why is it harmful to the phones?never heard of this before!!
vivekdumbre said:
may i know why is it harmful to the phones?never heard of this before!!
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Maybe Google can help. I just know its not recommended
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Take a look on this page... It's a good explanation
lifehacker[dot]com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
sry for this stupid link, but as I'm new here, I'm not able to post third-party-links...
DerpyDerp said:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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Here u go
One basic point is that Android will automatically open certain apps by default. When you kill these apps the task killers claim they will stay killed but because Android opens them by default they will be launched again so this cycle of killing and re-launching apps will just continue which will use up more battery instead of conserving it.
settings --> applications --> Development --> Stop app via long-press.
You can always chek this option, so you know that you close all applications everytime you use them.
I will recomend you Auto Memory Manager. You can modify the values in that android stars to close process.
Y use it on agressive mode, and always have around 80-90 mb free of RAM memory (less apps open == fasther phone == less memory used
Sorry for my english,
i think using task killers is not a good idea.
we can use task manager (default app) it is better than any other app

[Q] Reduce Android OS battery usage?

I'm wondering if there is anything I can disable to reduce my Android OS battery usage. It's always number 2 on the list behind screen. The list of included services has roughly 20 items in it. I tried to include some attachments for you to look at and see if there is something I can do.
rick09 said:
I'm wondering if there is anything I can disable to reduce my Android OS battery usage. It's always number 2 on the list behind screen. The list of included services has roughly 20 items in it. I tried to include some attachments for you to look at and see if there is something I can do.
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No information whatsoever is given by those screens, get better battery stats and check the wakelocks. My bet is on google services.
I just want to know if I can safely freeze (with TiBackup) anything on that list. Such as Eltest, LG vpn, LG setup wizard, LG eula, LG pc suite etc. Things I don't use. Google play services is in a totally different section and surprisingly doesn't cause as much of a drain.
Sent from my LG-D801
BTW I use the xposed module Amplify to control my wakelocks and Greenify to control running apps. But neither of those help with Android System drain which is a lot of LG stuff that I don't use regularly.
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Choristav said:
No information whatsoever is given by those screens, get better battery stats and check the wakelocks. My bet is on google services.
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Here is a screenshot from today, screen on time was 2hrs 48mins at this point, full brightness since I've been outside all day. Location service and sync turned on. Like I said Google services low drain whereas Android System (posted screenshots) is a major drain.

[INFO] Battery life

Hello!
I have a question: For you, my battery life is good?
I have bought the smartphone (G935F) a week ago, I'm on the stock rom with root.
This is a ss of my battery life today, I think that isn't good, because I haven't use any heavy app like a game for a long period...
What do you think? (Sorry for my bad English)
P. S: I always have the screen resolution set to the maxim and the brightness set to medium.
yes, your battery life appears to be good.
but check to make sure that you are logged out games and facebook as they sometimes run in the background.
you largest usage is ECRAN.
If you can give some more details about it, I can let you know if you can do something about it,
"Ecran" mean "Display" in Romanian xD.
So, you think is better to logout Facebook and another internet apps to gave some time in plus over the battery? Or you just mean to close this apps in background? (This I already do)
Close all apps that you are not using. Also, do not use the wifi.
Your usage looks alright (normal) and if you wish to increase your battery lifespan, try to decrease the updates and connections running in the background.
Cosmic Blue said:
yes, your battery life appears to be good.
but check to make sure that you are logged out games and facebook as they sometimes run in the background.
you largest usage is ECRAN.
If you can give some more details about it, I can let you know if you can do something about it,
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RossTeagan said:
Close all apps that you are not using. Also, do not use the wifi.
Your usage looks alright (normal) and if you wish to increase your battery lifespan, try to decrease the updates and connections running in the background.
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Ok, thanks for the advice! ?
Use Greenify; To Hibernate Apps And Kill Background Processes. But Battery Life Is Dependent On Usage

Facebook apps and other apps - disabling them

Hi.
Im trying to boost my phones battery, following Corv0's guide. Im too scared and also inexperienced to use ADB or AdHell. So i just disable some of the stuff but not actually removing them.
My questions are:
What do the FB app installer, FB app manager and FB services do, what is their purpose? What do i lose by disabling them? Does removing them using adhell and "only" disabling them have same effect on battery or is only removing them completely the right way to save battery? Right now i disabled all of them for a day and use facebook website instead. I think battery is a bit better. But id prefer using FB app. If i enable FB app but disable FB app manager, installer and services will i still see improvement in battery life? And what will i lose by disabling those three? Does it disable logging into games with FB perhaps? Or do i lose sth else? Does it affect instagram?
Can i disable playstore services or restrict its bg data? What would that do? Break anything? Would it save battery?
What does putting apps manually to sleep do and what does restricting their bg data do? I put Instagram to sleep, but havent restricted its bg data, but i still get notifications.. So whats the difference, does putting them to sleep actually save battery if i still get notifications?
What are some other (system) apps i can disable or restrict its bg data to save battery and what functions or functionality do i lose by doing that?
Thank you for help.
Anyone?
KavaBreskva said:
Anyone?
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I removed the 3 Facebook apps that were there with ADB and it has not impacted on the performance of Facebook.
I have How ever restricted background data and battery on Facebook and Mesenger, again no impact on the performance, i still have notifications.
I have restricted most apps background data and battery apart from Gmail, Google, Assistant, Bixby routines. Some apps wont allow you to restrict like phone, messages ect.
I can easily get 8 to 11 hours of SOT with 20 hrs on battery.
The only problem i have with Facebook and Mesenger is that its not user friendly to the Forced Dark Mode in Android 10. It seems to change a lot of background colour to white, meaning you cant see comments or messages.
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I removed the 3 Facebook apps that were there with ADB and it has not impacted on the performance of Facebook.
I have How ever restricted background data and battery on Facebook and Mesenger, again no impact on the performance, i still have notifications.
I have restricted most apps background data and battery apart from Gmail, Google, Assistant, Bixby routines. Some apps wont allow you to restrict like phone, messages ect.
I can easily get 8 to 11 hours of SOT with 20 hrs on battery.
The only problem i have with Facebook and Mesenger is that its not user friendly to the Forced Dark Mode in Android 10. It seems to change a lot of background colour to white, meaning you cant see comments or messages.
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I see. Thx for the info.
I use the greenify app to put Facebook to sleep when I am not using it. The thing is a resource hog I swear.
This is my usage for last charge cycle.

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