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OK, couldn't find a similar thread, so I will make a new one. I am a Noob when it comes to tablets and their OS restrictions (I've heard of boot-loaders and stuff but don't know exactly what they are).
So to the question - say I get something like this: Lenovo Ideatab K2110, which runs on an Intel X86 architecture.
Then when Windows 8 come out, can I get a license and run it on the device? Will that be possible? I know it is sort of early, but I am thinking about tablets and evaluating the options. Not really a fan of Android and iOS as I've always used windows, so I was just wondering if I get an Intel-based ICS 4.0 device, whether I can upgrade to Win eventually if I am not happy with it.
Also, I haven't found anything on the net, for convertable Android Intel-based tablets (like the Transformer) - anyone read anything on the topic? As if I upgrade to Win 8, I'd prefer a keyboard-dockable device.
Any help will be much appreciated!
To clarify - I am asking because of affordability - currently Win 7 tablets are very expensive. But if I get Android and decide that Win 8 is worth the money eventually then I will probably invest in it. I know the switch from Win 7 to Win 8 will be easy but Win 7 is crap until Win 8 comes out AND it is more expensive than Android so I see no reason to buy such a device.
And while on topic - how much would an Android shave off the price of a similar system with Win 8? Are Win 7 tablets so expensive because of the hardware or because of the software?
Edit: Just saw a similar thread in the Dev forum! I guess someone else has the same idea as me and it sounds plausible! Just waiting for an appropriate dockable device then Still, anyone heard about any convertible tablets with Intel chips?
You may be the first one in XDA say that Windows 7 sucks.
yeah, it can be suck for Tablet because it is a platform which Windows 7 wasn't aimed for.
And i don;t have a clear answer for the question because they can have the same hardware but install an OS on it is a different story.
For an example, in order to install Windows on a iMac is a stupid progress, even other PCs can use the same specs.
On a tablet it isn't good as far as I am aware. On my laptop - I love it. Anyway, are we going to know for sure when the Win 8 beta and some Intel Android device is out? I mean, would guys around here work out whether it will be possible at that stage?
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On a tablet it isn't good as far as I am aware. On my laptop - I love it. Anyway, are we going to know for sure when the Win 8 beta and some Intel Android device is out? I mean, would guys around here work out whether it will be possible at that stage?
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I bet most people here would buy off a tablet which run Windows 8 on a Second Gen Core i series.
ASUS seem to be a great deal over this.
does it use the regular BIOS when turned on? if so then yea it'll work. Im not so sure about that touchscreen though, there might not be drivers available for it. It really depends if the controller has been used regularly in windows, or if its some obscure chip that is only now being used in that device.
Based on little knowledge,Win 8 needs 'bios' , be it tablet or mobile.
OEM have to customise the hardware architechture.
I guess win 8 should run all the apps of win 7, based on the excellent backward compatibility of win o/s in general. again certain apps depend on the hardware architechture and the customisations the OEM offer. I may be wrong
As of now, the chaces for such porting seem low, unless some developers here in the community come up with another solution.
as long as it can have BIOS loaded, and drivers can be created, then the answer is yes, it will be possible
mtmerrick said:
as long as it can have BIOS loaded, and drivers can be created, then the answer is yes, it will be possible
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Thats exactly it,and with the cheap intel based android tablets coming on the market now,2 years later,this takes on more importance. I do wonder what boot loader they are using for the android tablets. I see that AMD is going to start getting into the mix,and that could be interesting because I understand that AMD has been supporting coreboot. If coreboot is ported to the chipsets in use,it might make an easy path to putting windows or linux on those tablets. Basicly,core boot handles low level hardware initialization,then loads an EFI or OpenBIOS payload,then your off and running In fact,if coreboot is ported,we might even see some RUN coreboot as the bootloader. With android,I can see simply using coreboot to directly boot into the linux kernel,and into android. But if they use it,its open source,so they need to release the code,and your good to go.
>Intel Android tablet to Windows 8?
OP should keep up with tech news.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/3/5267360/intel-dual-os-pc-plus-android-windows-microsoft-objection
TL;DR: Per the piece's header. But MS & Google aren't onboard for turf reasons.
Edit: Oops, just noticed this thread is 2-yrs old, being necro'ed by last posting dude. Disregard response.
many tablets with dual os are available now
e.mote said:
>Intel Android tablet to Windows 8?
OP should keep up with tech news.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/3/5267360/intel-dual-os-pc-plus-android-windows-microsoft-objection
TL;DR: Per the piece's header. But MS & Google aren't onboard for turf reasons.
Edit: Oops, just noticed this thread is 2-yrs old, being necro'ed by last posting dude. Disregard response.
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onda v919, teclast air ii, air 3g , etc and many others have dual os.
First time post so wasn't allowed to post where I would have liked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2401002
I actually installed the Android on Intel Architecture onto my Samsung xe700t a few times over the last few months, adjusting windows 8 or android options to suit my needs, but a few days ago I decided to format my laptop and reinstall Windows 8 and reinstall Android as I have previously, I am now getting this error message at the very end of the android installation process:
fatal: assertion failed bootable/iago/plugins/gummiboot.c:gummiboot_execute:154 'efibootmgr encountered an error (status 100)
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I have googled this and I can't find a solution
I have updated the bios, I have made sure my laptop is in UEFI format, I have made secure the BIOS isn't in secure boot, I have tried various USB sticks, I have also made sure the USB stick is first in the boot order.
So have no idea why I can't install Intel Android onto my pc anymore
Can anyone help me with this issue?
Nope because you just posted into a windows 8 general section.
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Nope because you just posted into a windows 8 general section.
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Well that is helpful? Where would you like me to post it then?
I will delete the post and move it to where you suggest
@OP
Actually, you are supposed to post your question(s) here, because dev forums normally aren't intended for tech support--hence the no-newbie-posting restriction. The thread you referred to isn't a dev thread per se--there is no developer here for said software--and it's kind of a free-for-all for adopters. Because all the Win8 forums here are basically dead, on-topic rules aren't enforced as they would be on a forum with heavy traffic.
In any case, take time to read before asking questions. In the thread referenced, people have ran into the same error, and some have figured out it's a boot order issue (post #64).
I am very aware of people having the same issue and that it can be caused by a boot order issue, but none of the solutions posted have worked for me, I am giving up on it, I have decided to go with dual booting Android X86 as it seems to be more compatible with more Android Apps, the Intel version is very limited what apps will work on it.
>the Intel version is very limited what apps will work on it
They're all limited, with basically zero support. A quick Google search would show that interest (per the attendant volume of discussion) in Win/And dual-boot is limited to a very small number of enthusiasts. Then, peer help is minimal, and self-help is your main recourse.
Do realize that questions like "why doesn't XYZ work on my PC" is an exercise in futility, if only because of the infinite permutations of Windows boxes. If you can't find the solution via a search, then no one can help you, even if they were willing--and most aren't. When it comes to geek things like dual-boot, there is no patience for handholding. No offense.
Win/And dual-boot may yet get official vendor support, if rumors of dual-boot boxes are realized. Certainly, Intel is pushing for such, since the Atom is in the unique position of supporting both platforms. But business politics are aligned against it, and more importantly, end-user demand is non-existent.
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I have decided to go with dual booting Android X86 as it seems to be more compatible with more Android Apps, the Intel version is very limited what apps will work on it.
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Not a clue what you are on about there, they both suffer from the same app pool issue.
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Not a clue what you are on about there, they both suffer from the same app pool issue.
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Wow you are certainly making me feel welcome on this board SixSixSevenSeven?
The Intel version of Android is 4.2 (Jellybean) while Android X86 is 4.4 (Kit Kat)
So far I have been able to run all Google apps on 4.4 without any issues which I couldn't do on the Intel version.
I am now happily playing Injustice: Gods Among Us on Andorid X86 which I also couldn't do on the Intel version.
I have only had Android X86 2 days and I haven't found an app I can't run on it yet so I am really happy with it, would recommend it to anyone looking to run Android on their PC.
Very cool! i had tried androidIA on my xe700T1C and as fast and slick as it was i could barely run any of my apps, also had wifi issues. Bluestacks, as neat as the concept is, is dog slow and now it nags you to install apps to keep using it.
my setup is a bit unique as i have Win8.1/Ubuntu installed now, wiped AndroidIA since it was pretty useless, so we'll see how i can make it a tri-boot.
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Wow you are certainly making me feel welcome on this board SixSixSevenSeven?
The Intel version of Android is 4.2 (Jellybean) while Android X86 is 4.4 (Kit Kat)
So far I have been able to run all Google apps on 4.4 without any issues which I couldn't do on the Intel version.
I am now happily playing Injustice: Gods Among Us on Andorid X86 which I also couldn't do on the Intel version.
I have only had Android X86 2 days and I haven't found an app I can't run on it yet so I am really happy with it, would recommend it to anyone looking to run Android on their PC.
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i want to install android on ativ 3 , is that possible? , what version do you guys recommend? has anyone tried that? Thank you!
here you can see it
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Wow, it seems i bought a nono... it seems no one has it or ever heard of it...
It does indeed seem that way. Since it runs "real" Windows you can probably use something like BlueStacks on it? Actually installing Android (and having it work) will require driver support in Android which may not exist; even fairly popular Windows tablet lines like the Surface Pro family have driver troubles in Android.
I've been doing a lot of research on this tablet. Ended up picking up a refurb for $250, and with 64GB I'd like to do a dual boot if possible.
However, looking at Wikipedia, there isn't a single tablet with the Atom Z2760 with Android. They're all running Windows 8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(system_on_chip)
I'm an amateur developer, finishing up my CS degree this Spring. If someone more experienced than me thinks this is actually possible, I'll look into trying to make it happen. If there are any resources that may be relevant, post them or send me a PM.
I own a Samsung ATIV Tab 3 as well. I have not been using it since after updating to windows 10 it has become extremely slow. On the other hand I really like the pen and its responsiveness.
Have you found any way to install android or another light OS?
Ideally I would like to utilize the device as a digital notepad.
Currently, there are Bliss OS or Prime OS but I am testing Prime OS, I don't expect straightforward and easy installation but let's hope for the best...
@UserBroskyXDA, have you been successfull with Prime OS ? I have windows 10 running on my machine and its extremely slow.
Hello everyone!
This is my first post, so excuse me if I make any mistake, but I precise that I've made some researches before posting here.
So, I pledged the Remix Ultra Tablet on Kickstarter which will run on Android 4.4.4 and soon on Lollipop.
The thing is that this tablet has a Tegra 4, like the Surface 2 right? So I wonder if there is a way to dual boot with Windows 8 or 8.1 or RT or any form of Windows.
I would like to keep the Android part because I really like it, so a dual boot would be amazing.
Do you think it is possible? If so, can you help me in the process please?
I precise that I have no experience with any Surface Tablet, or any form of Windows Tablet RT.
I only have a little experience with Android, root, flash on my OnePlus One.
Thank you
That probably won't happen, I imagine Linux or Ubuntu are more likely in the future. Due to the Remix being a Surface clone already I would worry about the porter being sent a C&D letter from Microsoft.
Also I have only read of the HTC HD2 running RT thanks to the WP8 kernel that was previously available.
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It's not that I don't believe you, but I just would like more answer and be sure I can't :/
Thanks
Well there's still the main issue of no android device having UEFI support, which is important for W8/10 and Windows phone 8/10. However that won't matter because Windows is a licensed OS.
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Wouldn't say that RT isn't completely impossible on your device. You said it's a Surface clone and the Surface 2 does infact run a Tegra 4, like many other Windows RT tablets & laptops.
8 or 8.1 however is written for a completely different cpu architecture.
Just notice that RT and PC versions of Windows differ. You won't be able to install any programs downloaded from the internet, like on a PC. Only apps downloaded from the app store.
Personally I would rather stick with android since Microsoft's app store has very little to offer compared with Google's app store.
Ran across this video on youtube....the guy has run WinPhone 8.1 and Win 10 for mobile ( minus emulation and SDK ) from an image file.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PoGqQ9rKI
Just wondering if this is something that can be tinkered with in an old 8" Tablet. An Acer W3 Intel Atom Z with 2 Gig Ram, as big boy Windows seems a bit much for the older hardware now.
I figured the minds here would know best if this would be something worth tinkering with.
Any thoughts?
maybe it is simply the Emulator VHD? have you tried it?
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maybe it is simply the Emulator VHD? have you tried it?
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I have not tried it, as my idea was to move it to an emmc of cheap old tablet, but the video was made by SSD swap. So not sure if I would even be able to get the image into the tablet. That is why I posted here, to see what the smart minds here think.