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I know that root your S5 will trip knox.
I know that some have been saying that, if you root, that you can cant get connection to the update sever.
But what other issuse is there.
Sorry for the spelling, but im dyslexic.
Paland49 said:
I know that root your S5 will trip knox.
I know that some have been saying that, if you root, that you can cant get connection to the update sever.
But what other issuse is there.
Sorry for the spelling, but im dyslexic.
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Regarding KNOX there is a massive grey area around it, will Samsung carry out warranty work if it's tripped. Some report yes, some report no, some just don't know but guess.
It's all down to you really, if you feel rooting is a benefit to you then it might be worth losing OTA/Knox(warranty) etc. I rooted my Note 3 and tripped KNOX the day I got it, and tbh I never had issues.
radicalisto said:
Regarding KNOX there is a massive grey area around it, will Samsung carry out warranty work if it's tripped. Some report yes, some report no, some just don't know but guess.
It's all down to you really, if you feel rooting is a benefit to you then it might be worth losing OTA/Knox(warranty) etc. I rooted my Note 3 and tripped KNOX the day I got it, and tbh I never had issues.
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I got a Note 10.1 2014 and I have root it. i really like to options root gives me, like frezzing app's i dont need or use and ADAway. But im not sure to root my S5 or not to.
Ask yourself if you really need root right now, if not then don't risk it, if you do then go ahead and do what you need etc.
hmm, I think the real question is about the risk versus benefits...
Thing is I refuse to share my device with my compagny, if I own the hardware then all software limits are unacceptable.period.
Now, getting root is not for all and every user, so unless you know what you do then don't go for it...
I think that since most of our digital life happen on mobile device nowadays, empowerment is mandatory.
We can't let big company decide for us, too much is at stake.
For example, I use Xposed module with Xprivacy in order to have control over what data of mine are shared with internet.
Root only brings you control, not only choices, and that's what matter!
vorta251 said:
hmm, I think the real question is about the risk versus benefits...
Thing is I refuse to share my device with my compagny, if I own the hardware then all software limits are unacceptable.period.
Now, getting root is not for all and every user, so unless you know what you do then don't go for it...
I think that since most of our digital life happen on mobile device nowadays, empowerment is mandatory.
We can't let big company decide for us, too much is at stake.
For example, I use Xposed module with Xprivacy in order to have control over what data of mine are shared with internet.
Root only brings you control, not only choices, and that's what matter!
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I am very interested in the privacy point you make was just wondering if you could expand on what Xposed module and xprivacy do. Sorry fairly new to rooting and mods. I have a stock Telus s5 900w8 thanks in advance
Ffinger said:
I am very interested in the privacy point you make was just wondering if you could expand on what Xposed module and xprivacy do. Sorry fairly new to rooting and mods. I have a stock Telus s5 900w8 thanks in advance
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Xposed is a framework that allow module to run at a system level WITHOUT to have to modify your rom (it's very much alike to what winterboard is to jailbreaked Iphone).
Modules are very different from added functionality to cosmetic changes.
Xprivacy is not blocking any permissions for the apps, instead you can generate random informations and choose to give it to the apps.
The apps never crash because of Xprivacy, for example, Facebook thing I live in finland (i'm located in Asia)
So you can decide app by app what you allow and what you don't.
You'll find plenty of info about these topics here on xda!
Well now who would have thought just a couple years ago we would see black berry become something to be talked about again?
I loved my old BB curve 8330. When i get some money saved up i might just have to buy this one. and root it and rom it and brick it and fix it woot fun times ahead with black berry!
I don't think rooting and romming is in this phone's future given the emphasis on security...
I like what are they doing, Priv could be in our Office soon.
I sincerely hope rooting and romming will be in the future, but I won't hold my breath.
Root isn't as useful as it used to be for me personally at least. It breaks too much (Banking Apps, Online TV/Streaming apps, etc) to make it worthwhile. I think Xposed is the only thing I really miss having from being rooted.
The Priv is very nice ok, but if he hopes for some success, it just needs a great camera ! But only f2.2 aperture, so in low light it will sucks...
Lagamorph said:
Root isn't as useful as it used to be for me personally at least. It breaks too much (Banking Apps, Online TV/Streaming apps, etc) to make it worthwhile. I think Xposed is the only thing I really miss having from being rooted.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Relay for T-Mobile. Our last supported version of Android was 4.2.2. I have 5.0.2 on it now and it runs far better with it. Rooting is ridiculously useful, and breaks none of my banking or streaming apps.
rooting is great, but i will admit that i won't necessary need it in this device. but like any other device if someone will want to, they can crack it. it's a matter of time and will.
Lagamorph said:
Root isn't as useful as it used to be for me personally at least. It breaks too much (Banking Apps, Online TV/Streaming apps, etc) to make it worthwhile. I think Xposed is the only thing I really miss having from being rooted.
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What banking and streaming apps did root break for you? The only app I've had issues with is Android pay, which is to be expected. I haven't even had to cloak my banking app, or Xfinity streaming they all work with root fully exposed. There was a launcher of all things a long time ago, that didn't like root, I cloaked it, problem solved. I'm really curious what apps you've found that don't like root.
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What banking and streaming apps did root break for you? The only app I've had issues with is Android pay, which is to be expected. I haven't even had to cloak my banking app, or Xfinity streaming they all work with root fully exposed. There was a launcher of all things a long time ago, that didn't like root, I cloaked it, problem solved. I'm really curious what apps you've found that don't like root.
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Business banking app for taking credit card payments on phone. Paypal machine works rooted though
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Relay for T-Mobile. Our last supported version of Android was 4.2.2. I have 5.0.2 on it now and it runs far better with it. Rooting is ridiculously useful, and breaks none of my banking or streaming apps.
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What banking and streaming apps did root break for you? The only app I've had issues with is Android pay, which is to be expected. I haven't even had to cloak my banking app, or Xfinity streaming they all work with root fully exposed. There was a launcher of all things a long time ago, that didn't like root, I cloaked it, problem solved. I'm really curious what apps you've found that don't like root.
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Sky Go, Barclays Banking and Barclaycard all fail to open on rooted devices. They specifically come up with an error message that your device is rooted and that they wont function on rooted devices. I did try apps such as Hidemyroot but these failed more often than they worked for Sky Go, and never worked for the banking apps.
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Sky Go, Barclays Banking and Barclaycard all fail to open on rooted devices. They specifically come up with an error message that your device is rooted and that they wont function on rooted devices. I did try apps such as Hidemyroot but these failed more often than they worked for Sky Go, and never worked for the banking apps.
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Never heard of these apps. All my banking apps work on my rooted phones.
so here is the question....Are you installing the most recent updates VZW is pushing out? or are you holding off in the hopes that maybe a root method that does not trip KNOX will be discovered?
Is root just never going to happen...so may as well let the updates install?
my thought was that until an update was released that i "needed", i would hold off. so far, the updated do not seem like anything all that needed.
thoughts?
thanks!!!
no i'm not, i've disabled OTA's, but not bc of root hopefullness (bc i dont want to trip knox as i like samsung pay etc) but because i don't want to grab an OTA that ruins the phone (like 5.0.1 on the note 4 did) and then have them take like 6 months just to get a fix out.
not dealing with verizons BS this time around.
plus if root ever somehow came to the s7, it would probably have come to the note 4 hopefully, so i'd just root my note.
Yes. I am going to install all the updates. I'm thinking root is doubtful so might as well enjoy the updates. Plus if a root method did come up it will probably be for all currently versions or the current one.
Root doesn't look like it's coming and I like all the functionality so I won't be losing Samsung pay, VR use or using AOSP on it. I'm upgrading whenever there are fixes. The new PB5 update feels like my phone is running smoother so I'm happy.
jayb222 said:
Root doesn't look like it's coming and I like all the functionality so I won't be losing Samsung pay, VR use or using AOSP on it. I'm upgrading whenever there are fixes. The new PB5 update feels like my phone is running smoother so I'm happy.
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Root messes up the vr? Never knew that.
Anyway, I'm updating because it looks like I no longer tally need root. I can disable any annoying apps, and Samsung browser has an ad block add on. The only things I did on my V10 when I rooted it was fully uninstall useless apps and apply adaway to the hosts file. Apart from that I enjoy using the phone how it is, and I like Samsung pay so I don't think I'll be tripping Knox anytime soon like I used to.
cadcamaro said:
Root messes up the vr? Never knew that.
Anyway, I'm updating because it looks like I no longer tally need root. I can disable any annoying apps, and Samsung browser has an ad block add on. The only things I did on my V10 when I rooted it was fully uninstall useless apps and apply adaway to the hosts file. Apart from that I enjoy using the phone how it is, and I like Samsung pay so I don't think I'll be tripping Knox anytime soon like I used to.
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Root alone doesn't. Running a non-stock OS like AOSP would. There are third party apps for barebones VR though.
jayb222 said:
Root alone doesn't. Running a non-stock OS like AOSP would. There are third party apps for barebones VR though.
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Makes more sense, and good to know. I do suppose that IF a root came out that worked with everything the way it is now I may do it just because. No way I would if it tripped Knox though.
Would tripping Knox do more than voiding the warranty? How would I know if it was tripped?
Thanks!
I want to isntall Xposed, is there any way to downgrade to oreo on the oneplus 6t
thanks
maxsteelvishak said:
I want to isntall Xposed, is there any way to downgrade to oreo on the oneplus 6t
thanks
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This phone has never had Oreo, it was introduced with pie. You can't downgrade to something this phone has never had.
So much potential and its of no use since rooting is is worthless without xposed. I think we just settled
maxsteelvishak said:
So much potential and its of no use since rooting is is worthless without xposed. I think we just settled
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What Xposed mods do you need that aren't covered by magisk? Or just by flashing a simple zip file?
hartleyshc said:
What Xposed mods do you need that aren't covered by magisk? Or just by flashing a simple zip file?
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Device emulator pro , Fake GPS
Easy on the name calling. It was a legit question and we were all 'n00bZ once.
Be kind to each other.
Doesn't Magisk have an Xposed module? Also, stop cheating in Pokemon GO.
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Device emulator pro , Fake GPS
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Even on my previous OnePlus which was just rooted FakeGPS did what I needed it to do without any issues. I didn't even install it as a system app (so effectively was running a non-root mode). What's the issue with it that you need both root and Xposed tweaks on top of it to do what you need?
I just used it for when abroad on vacation in Europe to watch YouTube TV in the hotel (VPN+FakeGPS=win). :silly:
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Even on my previous OnePlus which was just rooted FakeGPS did what I needed it to do without any issues. I didn't even install it as a system app (so effectively was running a non-root mode). What's the issue with it that you need both root and Xposed tweaks on top of it to do what you need?
I just used it for when abroad on vacation in Europe to watch YouTube TV in the hotel (VPN+FakeGPS=win). :silly:
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The issue is I need apps like Device emulator, device id changer , that run only with xposed, moreover there are certain apps that hide detection of fake gps and these apps also need the Xposed framework. Most of the high end rooting apps need Xposed, so root is nothing without xposed
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Even still, blaming the phone because it cannot help you out with a very specific niche need is a bit silly.
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I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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This device was released with Pie and there would not be an Oreo release, atleast not official AFAIK. However there is a concept of virtual xposed floating around for Pie which is still in its initial stage so please allow some time for it to mature before we get something for Pie.
Everyone should know the forum rules so please go through them here. Lets keep the discussion on topic and avoid any personal comments.
Thank you for you understanding.
Funk
maxsteelvishak said:
I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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I don't think that will affect popularity but ok. Still dont find the need for xposed, at least for me.
maxsteelvishak said:
I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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No, not simple at all.
Very few people, possibly only you, expect to buy a flagship and then downgrade it. I find it silly to expect otherwise. My only advice would be to sell it and get a OP6.
Also, rooting for most users does not = xposed, stop talking in hyperbole. I've been rooting android devices since Gingerbread days (loved that OG Droid) and I rarely use xposed. The only time I ever use it is if I want to run AOSP and then I'll run GravityBox. Most everything else is usually covered by Magisk. I used to run xposed modules for ad blocking YouTube, now theres Vanced YouTube in Magisk, for example. Of course, this example is limited to my experience, but since we're talking in anecdotes evidently, I'll play along.
You do you booboo, get rid of the phone if you like, I just find it silly to fault the phone for your incredibly niche need.
maxsteelvishak said:
I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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What he said below pretty much sums up my thoughts. I used root on previous devices for only a handful of very straightforward things (adblock, backup, and maybe a few other misc tweaks). I haven't used Xposed since Nougat and didn't really miss a few of the extras (like XPrivacy)
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No, not simple at all.
Very few people, possibly only you, expect to buy a flagship and then downgrade it. I find it silly to expect otherwise. My only advice would be to sell it and get a OP6.
Also, rooting for most users does not = xposed, stop talking in hyperbole. I've been rooting android devices since Gingerbread days (loved that OG Droid) and I rarely use xposed. The only time I ever use it is if I want to run AOSP and then I'll run GravityBox. Most everything else is usually covered by Magisk. I used to run xposed modules for ad blocking YouTube, now theres Vanced YouTube in Magisk, for example. Of course, this example is limited to my experience, but since we're talking in anecdotes evidently, I'll play along.
You do you booboo, get rid of the phone if you like, I just find it silly to fault the phone for your incredibly niche need.
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...too add to what he said if you feel you need all this "advanced" tinkering with Xposed + root why don't you develop a stable Xposed Pie build? Okay then...
Just a heads up for the people who say I'm the only one who wants xposed on android pie. Please visit
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/please-support-android-pie-9-0-sdk28-t3829625
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https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/376
I'm not faulting you for wanting xposed. I was just saying it's silly to buy a flagship, and be aggravated that you can't downgrade.
https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacyLua/blob/master/README.md is a nice one to have, however it's worth waiting for
While I agree that Xposed is such an awesome thing, I have to also agree with others. A device that was never released with that particular version of Android will never have it. Best case would be to wait it out until Xposed pie comes out eventually, and I'm sure by then Android Q will be on this device and you'll be mad that Xposed Q won't be a thing. I personally don't use Xposed anymore because safety net is a priority for me, but yeah, it's a great mod for sure.
We've had xposed on pie for months.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/list-xposed-modules-android-pie-ed-t3892768
Hello, I have a S10 plus which is out of warranty but I use payment apps on my phone
I want to root my phone to get UI 3.1 for wireless deskX support
My question is, If I root my phone then which features will work n which will not, I dont want to regret so please explain by give link to some thread or explaining here ?
Anything that uses knox, such as those payment apps
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Anything that uses knox, such as those payment apps
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samsung pay definitely uses it but does google pay also use knox ??
SunnyGrewal11 said:
samsung pay definitely uses it but does google pay also use knox ??
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Samsung apps use knox, Google pay will require your phone to pass safetynet which iirc can be fixed with magisk modules or similar, I haven't rooted a phone since S5 days tho so not fully up to speed with the workarounds but by just rooting and doing nothing else it's likely no payment apps will work