Is a Samsung account necessary? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Just curious what the pros and cons are of setting up a Samsung account on my S8. Unless there's an overriding reason, it seems redundant to sync the phone to both Google and the Samsung cloud. I know that Samsung pay doesn't work without a Samsung account setup on the phone but I use Android pay anyhow.

I hate having both but Sammy pretty much forces u into it if you want Samsung apps to work?
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I made.mine just so it stopped asking me to make one lol

I use Gboard for the keyboard, chrome for my browser, mapmyrun for tracking my runs, thus I don't really use any Samsung apps. It seems like a lot of overhead to run duplicate Samsung versions of apps that I already have installed. Is there anything "essential" that I'm missing out on by not adding my Samsung account ( I do have a Samsung account, but I haven't added it to the Galaxy S8 setup).

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Question about Profiles/User Log-ins on GT 10.1

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I just purchased a GT 10.1 on yesterday and went through the usual routine of signing in with my Google credentials to set everything up (used for about 2 hours, then applied the Touchwiz update). I'm wondering, is there a way to set up "profiles" or 'users' on the Tab (similar to a Windows PC) that requires a passcode for specific Google accounts, but still allow anyone else to use the tab but not have access to my info? My concern is that all of my gmail, gv, fb, twitter ect data is accessible through the tablet apps since everything is already signed in/synced. Or is my only recourse to use an app that allows passcodes to be placed on individual apps (I'm currently using ZD Box to accomplish this on my N1). I searched the net and hadn't found anything that addressed my question.
that would be awesome. I wondered the same thing but couldn't find anything
sitinon327 said:
*Moved from the Samsung Galaxy Tab General forum*
I just purchased a GT 10.1 on yesterday and went through the usual routine of signing in with my Google credentials to set everything up (used for about 2 hours, then applied the Touchwiz update). I'm wondering, is there a way to set up "profiles" or 'users' on the Tab (similar to a Windows PC) that requires a passcode for specific Google accounts, but still allow anyone else to use the tab but not have access to my info? My concern is that all of my gmail, gv, fb, twitter ect data is accessible through the tablet apps since everything is already signed in/synced. Or is my only recourse to use an app that allows passcodes to be placed on individual apps (I'm currently using ZD Box to accomplish this on my N1). I searched the net and hadn't found anything that addressed my question.
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Hi
Try Smart App Protector, I've tested and it worked ok, there is a free and paid version as well.
Cheers
Having the ability to have two user logins would be awesome, then I could let my wife/daughter use the tab also. Not that I have anything to hide but would just rather them not have full access to all my accounts.

Multiple Google Accounts question

I signed out of a Google Account after adding another one, and it kept all my paid apps etc. Is there some downfall to this, or is this an easy way to share my apps with my family? Thanks!
Xygod said:
I signed out of a Google Account after adding another one, and it kept all my paid apps etc. Is there some downfall to this, or is this an easy way to share my apps with my family? Thanks!
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I have 4 Google accounts on mine I generally only use 1 for purchasing apps but occasionally accidentally use a different one. You don't 'lose' apps by changing account.
Once you've downloaded an app, it is possible to take the APK and install it on another device. Some apps phone home though and may call you out on this approach!
All apps you get from the play store are linked to the account and devices you were signed into when you got them. Many paid apps check for the linked account when they run out update to prevent you sharing them.
If you have the same account on multiple devices you can share, I do between my phone and my tablet, but my wife for example has her own accounts and own paid apps.
I don't want someone else with my Gmail account on their device. Mine is setup with 2 factor authentication anyway which requires a code which is sent via SMS to me to compete for extra security.
If you use your pc and log into the play store on the web you can see what apps are associated with that account and which devices they were loaded on.
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[Q] Which apps to disable?

So far, I've frozen all verizon apps, useless google apps and services (they know who they are...) and several other useless apps and services.
This is my list of disabled Samsung apps & services:
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter
Samsung Cloud Data Relay
Samsung Cloud Quota
Security Policy Updates (probably Verizon...)
What other Samsung apps/svc can be disabled or uninstalled?
Here is the list (for copy/paste convenience):
Samsung contents agent
Samsung Hub
Samsung Link
Samsung Print Services
Samsung Push Service
Samsung SBrowser Sync Adapter
Samsung SNote3 Sync Adapter
Samsung Sync Adapters
Samsung Text to Speech Engine
Samsung Updates
Samsung Hub Updater
Samsung Sans
Any other recommended disables/uninstalls?
Thanks!
Sam Sung said:
So far, I've frozen all verizon apps, useless google apps and services (they know who they are...) and several other useless apps and services.
This is my list of disabled Samsung apps & services:
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter
Samsung Cloud Data Relay
Samsung Cloud Quota
Security Policy Updates (probably Verizon...)
What other Samsung apps/svc can be disabled or uninstalled?
Here is the list (for copy/paste convenience):
Samsung contents agent
Samsung Hub
Samsung Link
Samsung Print Services
Samsung Push Service
Samsung SBrowser Sync Adapter
Samsung SNote3 Sync Adapter
Samsung Sync Adapters
Samsung Text to Speech Engine
Samsung Updates
Samsung Hub Updater
Samsung Sans
Any other recommended disables/uninstalls?
Thanks!
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Here is a link to my post with a list showing all of the stock apps that I removed. You can delete the rest of the Samsung apps but sans is a font I believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46493729&postcount=11
Thanks for the link and info. I've disabled several that you listed. Now to watch for any issues.
Sam Sung said:
Thanks for the link and info. I've disabled several that you listed. Now to watch for any issues.
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I never had any issues with all of them deleted but it depends on your setup also.
airmaxx23 said:
I never had any issues with all of them deleted but it depends on your setup also.
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For reference, I haven't experienced any issues. I think I'll just leave them Disabled for the moment, though, as one day I may want to try one of the Samsung protocols to link to one of our other phones for file or media transfer and find that I need one or the other.
Gladyscoleman said:
I Also have disable all this app but I am facing a issue and that is my signal strength is low now after the disabling the apps. And I am facing the issues in call connectivity.
How can I enhance my signal strength ?
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I haven't had any low strength issues. It may be coincidental. Does your signal strength get better in other locations?
You could review the uninstalled apps/services to determine if any of them pertain to signal and re-enable. You could also just re-enable all of the apps/services you disabled before your signal strength issues occurred to see if they go away.
It's also recommended that you nandroid (SS backup) your device before making these kind of changes. Having a nandroid, if I were to have issues, I would make another nandroid of my current (changed) setup, then restore my previous setup to see if the issue exists there.
Sam

Samsung Default Apps -vs- Google Apps

There are so many alternatives in the play store, but sticking to the question, what do you all use, or would you use if you had to choose between the two, on your Galaxy S8/+
Samsung Messages -or- Android Messages
Samsung Internet -or- Google Chrome
Samsung Calendar -or- Google Calendar
Samsung Calculator -or- Google Calculator
Samsung Email -or- Gmail/Inbox
Samsung Clock -or- Google Clock
Samsung Notes/Reminder -or- Google Keep
Samsung Touchwiz -or- Google Now Launcher
Samsung Health -or- Google Fit
Samsung Pay -or- Android Pay
The only Samsung apps I use are Internet, Clock and Phone. I prefer Google apps for sms messages, calendar, notes (Keep), and contactless payments. I use Nova Launcher with a Pixel theme. For email I prefer Blue Mail since it looks and works so much better than Samsung email or GMail.
Now that you put this in perspective, I just realized that I feel that MOST Samsung Apps are superior to the Google Apps, when I use a Samsung phone like I'm doing now with the S8+ I use ALL of them except Samsung Email and simply because they haven't added the option to be able to delete the emails from the Notification shade or the lockscreen, I have reported this a couple of times now and I hope they do it, I'm having sync issues with gmail from quite some time now (I'm not the only one as I can see on the forums), it comes and goes, but it's getting into my nerves already, and with the huge amount of emails I receive daily because of my work, I can't keep going to the app to delete them. But again, for the rest, I always use all that you mentioned here except email. When I use other manufacturer then I use ALL Google.
Internet - lightning fast, adblockers and Biometrics for passwords (I can sync my Chrome Desktop Bookmarks with their extension)
Calendar - Simply great, easy to use and even easier at some tasks.
Email - Even when I don't use it, I haven't had any issues with sync even when Gmail is, plus it reads my email just like a SMS when in my car. Great for their Ecosystem and Gear S3 specifically.
Notes - I use Evernote most of the time but when I don't want to, I've been passing my Galaxy Notes' Notes through the years and they sync perfectly even with Evernote.
Samsung Health - This one is just not fair, how limited Google and Apple's implementations are, sure they have a lot of connections with some apps, but SHealth out of the box and its own add-ons is simply a great and complete health tool.
Samsung Pay - In my case, with all my cards accepted by Samsung Pay, it can't be a single reason why I may choose Android Pay over Samsung Pay, Tap to Pay works basically the same PLUS the MST on the Samsung Pay is the *hit.
About launcher, I don't like Google Launcher and I've used Nova for years now, I've been giving the new Touchwiz a break in the past couple of days, and I like it but still miss my Nova Gestures a lot. One option I prefer Google over Samsung is the keyboard, currently using Gboard, Samsung keyboard is disabled.
All of the above of course are my opinions...Just in case
gestevez1213 said:
There are so many alternatives in the play store, but sticking to the question, what do you all use, or would you use if you had to choose between the two, on your Galaxy S8/+
Samsung Messages -or- Android Messages
Samsung Internet -or- Google Chrome
Samsung Calendar -or- Google Calendar
Samsung Calculator -or- Google Calculator
Samsung Email -or- Gmail/Inbox
Samsung Clock -or- Google Clock
Samsung Notes/Reminder -or- Google Keep
Samsung Touchwiz -or- Google Now Launcher
Samsung Health -or- Google Fit
Samsung Pay -or- Android Pay
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erasat said:
Now that you put this in perspective, I just realized that I feel that MOST Samsung Apps are superior to the Google Apps, when I use a Samsung phone like I'm doing now with the S8+ I use ALL of them except Samsung Email and simply because they haven't added the option to be able to delete the emails from the Notification shade or the lockscreen, I have reported this a couple of times now and I hope they do it, I'm having sync issues with gmail from quite some time now (I'm not the only one as I can see on the forums), it comes and goes, but it's getting into my nerves already, and with the huge amount of emails I receive daily because of my work, I can't keep going to the app to delete them. But again, for the rest, I always use all that you mentioned here except email. When I use other manufacturer then I use ALL Google.
Internet - lightning fast, adblockers and Biometrics for passwords (I can sync my Chrome Desktop Bookmarks with their extension)
Calendar - Simply great, easy to use and even easier at some tasks.
Email - Even when I don't use it, I haven't had any issues with sync even when Gmail is, plus it reads my email just like a SMS when in my car. Great for their Ecosystem and Gear S3 specifically.
Notes - I use Evernote most of the time but when I don't want to, I've been passing my Galaxy Notes' Notes through the years and they sync perfectly even with Evernote.
Samsung Health - This one is just not fair, how limited Google and Apple's implementations are, sure they have a lot of connections with some apps, but SHealth out of the box and its own add-ons is simply a great and complete health tool.
Samsung Pay - In my case, with all my cards accepted by Samsung Pay, it can't be a single reason why I may choose Android Pay over Samsung Pay, Tap to Pay works basically the same PLUS the MST on the Samsung Pay is the *hit.
About launcher, I don't like Google Launcher and I've used Nova for years now, I've been giving the new Touchwiz a break in the past couple of days, and I like it but still miss my Nova Gestures a lot. One option I prefer Google over Samsung is the keyboard, currently using Gboard, Samsung keyboard is disabled.
All of the above of course are my opinions...Just in case
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Yea man I feel torn apart by it all. This is what I use & feel about everything:
Samsung Internet: Much better than chrome with the included biometric scanning, ad block, and bookmark synchronization.
Samsung Email: Already integrates with Gmail should you decide to use your Gmail account. Meant for the S8
Samsung Calculator: Unit conversion and meant for the S8 with the infinity display
Samsung Clock: Meant for the S8
Samsung Keyboard: As much as I would like to use all-things-Samsung, I also swapped this out for the Google Keyboard. Gboard recognizes my swipes better. However Samsung recognizes that when I'm about to login into a site/app via email, it automatically populates my email as a keyword shortcut. Saves the time in typing out the entire email address.
Samsung Health: instant winner. No brainer
Samsung Pay: can be used basically everywhere. No brainer.
Samsung Notes/Reminder: I don't use this at all. I'm heavily invested into Google Keep, but there's no way to integrate Google Keep with the Samsung features, and the Samsung Reminders with Google Keep.
Samsung Launcher: I use the stock infinity launcher.
Samsung Messages: I love the unread notification icons and how the messenger is designed for the S8. I however don't like that voice recorded messages from the default app isn't supported by other Messengers, whereas Android messages has a couple more added features, that are support by more if not all phones and OS's, like gif images and location sharing.
I must be the only person that prefers chrome over the samsung broswer! I just think chrome looks so much better and its easier to use although admittedly i use chrome on my mac aswell so perhaps iam just so used to chrome that i find it hard to switch!! Not a massive fan of the stock email app but it does the job so its not a biggie for me! For the keyboard i use swiftkey simply because it knows me so well at this stage basically ha The samsung keyboard is great though. Stock messaging app is something i have never used on any phone and always opt for Textra but iam so far happy with the stock messaging app on the S8 and will continue using it for now!!
So, lets see...
Yup, contacts, browser, calendar, phone, messages, mail and lauuncher - all by Samsung.
From Google? I prefer photos over samsung gallery.
Bixby? Never, but also not Google assistant, not an ai person...
I think, the quality of Samsung apps has improved immensely, really like them now.
Two things to consider - the quality of the apps and how you feel about having your personal information sold to marketers for cash.
On the quality side I like Samsung's apps and they are well integrated with the UI and each other. I particularly like e-mail (I use Exchange), calendar, contacts, Internet, and gallery. All of those are backed up to Samsung Cloud which allows you to share them across Samsung devices (I have four besides my phone). You can get 50GB of storage for $.99 a month vs. the 15GB free provided. I like Samsung Cloud because of its tight integration. Your photos are virtually managed across all your devices so if I take a picture on my phone it appears in the gallery of my tablets. I love Scrapbook for grabbing business and personal things I want to save off the Internet and S Note for taking notes on my tablets and having them show up dynamically on my phone and PC. There's also a cool app called Cloud Together that allows you to have the files on your device shown side-by-side with all the popular cloud storage products. You can even have one cloud storage product shown side-by-side with another (EG: Dropbox<>OneDrive) to move files between them or your phone. Lastly, if you use a Gear (I do) you give up a ton of functionality when you don't use Samsung's native apps.
As for Google's apps, I'm not a fan. I don't think their designs and interfaces are that hot. But ultimately everything Google provides is done so for one reason only - to collect your data and sell it. Not only do I not use Google's apps I either uninstall or disable them. I'm kind of pissed because as of recently you can't use Android Auto without Google Music and Assistant enabled with all their location and awareness features active. Oh well, I need Android Auto more than I care about my data being harvested.
For some it's "pure Android" or bust and for others variety is good. To each their own.
This is a great thread, though admittedly I'm coming to it late in the game. I have long been a stock android kind of guy before coming to the Galaxy S8+. Suffice it to say, I stuck with the stock Google apps in the beginning. However, one week in, I'm slowly realizing that Samsung has done a really good job in some places. The browser is the best mobile browser I have ever used (chrome, brave, dolphin, link bubble, etc). The calculator is excellent. The alarm clock is fine, but I do prefer google's time selection method.
Meanwhile, I don't use Samsung or Google's keyboard; I use Swiftkey...and really miss Fleksy.
Google's calendar is vastly better. I love the way it populates locations.
Todoist is my task list. Their management is excellent but it's not free.
Evernote wines for a notepad.
Surprisingly mostly Samsung for me.
I use inbox for private mail and Samsung email for work mail. Switched from chrome to Samsung browser and am really happy with it.
I always use nova, because neither gnow not Sam's uh Ng provide the features.
All other apps I use stock samung. And they work really well.
BarryH_GEG said:
You can get 50GB of storage for $.99 a month vs. the 15GB free provided.
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I'm also a big fan of Samsung's Cloud, but I haven't been able to figure out how to increase my storage above the 15GB. What's the trick? I'm using a Note 8 (and was using an S8 before), and have never been able to find the option enabled in my Manage Cloud setting. Thanks in advance!
If I wanted to use Android apps I'd have gotten a pixel...
Samsung apps also offer more features and conform to installed themes instead of their own bright whites and random colors.

Removing system bloatware

On official android ROM v 7 I disabled and even removed(root) some samsung bloatware.
However but i still have too many things that are potentially removable but i need advise.
Samsung cloud?
Samsung account?
Samsung galaxy
Samsung push
Knox
Klms agent
My places
Email (i use k9mail)
Bbcagent
Facebook
Talkback
Samsung internet (or just remove the autostart)
Do u think that any of them is important for the system?
Any tip about removing/disabling services?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/script-ultra-debloat-note4-models-t3813051

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