Thinking of getting one, can anyone show me screen shots or a list of the built in apps.
Does it come with the Google Phone/Calendar apps?
No. It seems to have the standard AOSP stuff but slightly modified.
You will have to install Google stuff yourself. Except for the Play Store of course.
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Does everyone else's. Google play only show a limited amount of apps? When I go into the the market there is not very many apps that show up I'm guessing it only shows tablet apps?
No it shows all apps available. Might be your country.
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Hey Guys,
So i've have a Samsung Galaxy S4 (I9500) as a secondary device (Primary is iPhone 5 :highfive
I used to love Android but off lately I am starting to hate every device its on like Note 3 (demo for 1 hour) Or HTC One or Note 2 or this S4.
Now I like Google & Android like everyone else, but have started to hate their approach, Google used to stand for "Freedom" of what users want to do but now they are forcing stuff on you and don't give you easier way to get out of it.
e.g. Google Play Movies / TV, Google Play Books < I don't give a crap for these service, I have found no way to remove them yet, even via Rooting I still am unable to remove them. they don't show up in NoBloat Free software.
Then there is Google Location Service, Why does location service / any other service for that matter need to run continuously when the phone is running, this is why I started to like iOS better than android (grant it has its issues) there is no optimization of the usage of resource these background task are taking & there is no way to just stop them from using up system resource unless you disable them. including other services like Dropbox Camera Upload, I don't think its that hard to build a trigger into an app that starts and stops the service when Camera application is launched.
Take a look at the screenshot below, the total amount of RAM used should be only 147MB according to the list of running apps & 123MB in Cached Processes but it is for some reason using 707MB.
Then there is the dependencies of apps, e.g. Google Hangout requiring Google Play services, Google Hangout in itself is a 16 MB app why would they build a dependency to another application and require its presence when the Play Services is only to Update Google Apps & other Apps from Play store?
Then the built-in Google Search, a freaking 30MB application & all that does is use the web search. Really Google?
So comming back to my real question here. I've looked in the sections but there aren't any ROM's that are designed to be used without any of the Google crap.. Is there any way i can run my S4 without these, I don't even want the Play store.
You can flash a deodexed google rom, and then remove the bloatware via a root file explorer of your choice, by deleting the apk files in system/app
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Deadfreak said:
You can flash a deodexed google rom, and then remove the bloatware via a root file explorer of your choice, by deleting the apk files in system/app
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Ok thanks i will install arrow rom and remove the apps I dont need.. and see if the phone is stable.
Upon first launch these apps are installed
Apollo
Browser
Calculator
Calendar
Camera
Clock
Dev Tools
Documents
Downloads
DSP manager
Email
Gallery
Messaging
Movie Studio
OmniSwitch
People
Phone
Search
Settings
SIM Toolkit
Torch
Voice Dialer
I'd like to know which of these are actually supported.
I believe many of them have been abandoned by upstream, like Email, Calendar, Gallery, Messaging, etc.
Search should be removed, seeing as it hasn't been updated since like 1.5. Same with Movie Studio.
I disabled Apollo, Browser and Email within minutes, as there are better apps for their purposes.
VLC instead of Apollo, Firefox instead of browser and K-9 Mail instaed of email.
For some reason, Apollo, a third party app by Cyanogenmod gets included but not any other third party apps.
If third party apps are going to be included, there should be some kind of system as to what is included.
Is omnirom going to come with everything included or just what you need to get started?
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There are some open-source apps I'd like to include, but there are some issues (regarding package signatures) that make it difficult to properly include stuff that is also available on the Play Store.
Apollo's inclusion is mostly from inertia, I think that really needs a nuke and repave. Once it was submitted to CM it kind of just sat there. (I'm wondering if it was the victim of shady manuevering by the CM leadership like Focal was...)
Most of the other apps are included as part of AOSP - fixing these apps is something pulser is working on organizing in conjunction with some other projects.
In general, if an app doesn't automatically start a background service and is part of AOSP, we don't put significant effort into removing it since free space in /system achieves nothing for the user.
Frankly most of these apps are useless as Google has alternate in market eg.
Calendar
Browser
Voice dialer
Apollo
Camera
Dash clock widget
I generally freeze them after installing. Might use a script to flash and remove these after install
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Frankly most of these apps are useless as Google has alternate in market eg.
Calendar
Browser
Voice dialer
Apollo
Camera
Dash clock widget
I generally freeze them after installing. Might use a script to flash and remove these after install
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But a solid rom *must* include apps to cover that basic functionality, regardless of what else is availabe in the market. Preferrably it should include excellent apps to cover the basics like that. No calendar? No camera? No browser? Those are *must-have* apps to be included with any rom). Unless there's a replacement baked in, it would be a major slight to cut them out. It'd be better to leave what essential apps in as placeholders until superior replacements can be developed/incorporated, instead of just shipping with gaping holes in the ROM and telling users, 'You don't like a barren, crippled build? Ha! Go fish!'
That kind of thing reminds me of so many Linux distros who spend tons of time on slick graphics, but don't even include basic functionality (*cough-elemental-hack*), leaving users to fend with a half-assed barely functional experience. That is just an atrocious way to go about things, IMO.
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Frankly most of these apps are useless as Google has alternate in market eg.
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To add to what Culot said a post above: an AOSP ROM should include apps to cover that basic functionality, and provide a fully functional and useful experience, not only regardless of what else is available in the Play Store, but mostly because an AOSP ROM should be usable without even having Google Play Services.
I don't think this has been discussed yet, but for those who have their 6p, how many apps come installed and can you remove any? I remember google saying they cut it back and you could un-install most apps.
Anyone want to chime in?
a dozen or so likely non-removable Gapps will be there like mail, messaging and their other standard stuff.
I read that there are 22 pre-installed apps that can't be completely removed. It's mentioned toward the bottom of this Nexus 6P review:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
android pay
calc
cal
cam
chrome
clock
contacts
device policy
downloads
drive
gmail
google
hangouts
maps
messenger (!)
phone
photos
play games
play movies &tv
play music
play store
settings
youtube
--pretty sparse, and interestingly no newstand/books and all that. Pinyin etc are there but 0 bytes. This is on a no sign in/no connection/no update device (UK)
SOLVED: Figured out that if you press and hold the message that comes up you get a menu in which you can choose to no longer receive notifications from that particular app. So, not an elegant solution but it works for now. Not that anyone else is crazy enough to want to delete everything Google on their Google OS Android phone. But hey.
So, I have a Moto G4 XT1625 off of Amazon (no-ads) that I've unlocked the bootloader and rooted (Android 7.0 oem through the updater before root). I don't want any Google apps or services or my Google account on the phone, so I used Titanium Backup to freeze all of it, including Google Playstore, Google Play Services and Google Play Framework. All other obvious Google apps have been frozen or uninstalled. I've used as many open source apps off repositories like F-Droid as I can and the phone runs super fast, no ads (Adaway, ofcourse) and the battery lasts noticeably much longer with no Google crapware churning in the background.
My problem is that when starting some apps, the phone complains:
"Enable Google Play services
__________ won't work unless you enable Google Play services."
The blank space is the name of whichever app I'm trying to open that supposedly requires Google PS, which is a lie because they all work perfectly fine. The nag message is just annoying and I'd like to know what I need to freeze to get rid of this. Any help would be appreciated.
Quite a few years later, and your solution has helped me get rid of that annoyance. You're not the only crazy, there's at least two of us. The only thing I want to give to google is the finger
Thanks again mate.