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Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?

I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.

The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?

Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:

I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.

ryotgz said:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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It's very un-Microsoft!

Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.

ericc191 said:
Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!

Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?

Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!

How come you got this over the mozart?

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How come you got this over the mozart?
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!

Freypal said:
I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
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I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers

A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?

gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.

risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.

QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

Cracked S2 screen from a short drop. Depressed.

A really stupid story, and I am sure not that uncommon either. Was in the college cubicle this morning (adult college, English ex-pat learning Finnish) and some bright spark had set the automatic lights at something like 2-3 minutes. Cue darkness and yours truly having the bright idea (no joke intended) of grabbing my phone and using my bright-as-the-sun SAMOLED+ screen to regain composure in pitch darkness and reactivate the lights.
I accidentally dropped the phone from knee height (please, imagination not necessary) onto the tiled floor leaving me with a dim partial screen lightup and many many problems, especially as I use my phone heavily to help with my language course. AAAAAAGGG.
Well, this is definitely going to be a lesson to anyone who doesn't think it will happen to them (one more educated user down, many to go) and haven't invested in a bumper case or at least a silicone cover. The only recourse I am aware of is the screens from aliexpress.com which both cost approximately a 1/4 of what the phone is worth....unless anybody has any better sources they can share?
Before I debase myself further, I have to mention that I am a 35-yr old who moved country with his family and is currently on a government-sponsored language integration course, and is therefore on the equivalent of unemployment-level finances until at least August 2012 with books to buy and all that depressing stuff. My phone is my only real luxury at the moment (cry cry, etc) and has become a lifeline helping me improve my language skills to become employable again in a very skill-oriented country. In that respect it is more than worth its (albeit svelte) weight in gold to me.
Despite me not being an existing contributor here as such, not having accrued reputation and therefore not being seen as an investment, I plan to provide a screen replacement tutorial (laced with comments like "BUY A BUMPER CASE!") when I can afford to buy a new screen. In that respect, I have set up a "Donate To Me" button to the left in my profile chit:
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....which I hope people would be goodly enough to use anonymously to help ease my transition through my S2 limbo. Please understand that this is not invitation to deride me for my stupidity in not buying a case yet (practical lesson learnt already, believe me) or to comment on the validity of my request in what is to me a very troubling time.
I'll be ordering the new screen at the end of the week. This is the first picture of the intended tutorial:
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I am a fairly good photographer and document writer, if that is my one saving grace in this instance. The first wag to suggest I sell my camera or my PC gets the dogs set on them!
Source links for replacement screen assemblies:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/905...ng-Galaxy-S-II-2-i9100-Super-AMOLED-Plus.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/905...-Flex-Cable-For-Samsung-Galaxy-S-2-i9100.html
My email is carldotmaltby.at.googlemaildotcom for donations. Even half a Euro here or there helps ease the sting.
If you can't be generous, please be nice.
Or in Finnish, "jos sä et voi olla antelias, ole silti kiltti".
In addition, if you live in Satakunta and need guitars/basses set up and/or repaired then I can do this for a very reasonable fee. I will also have plenty of woodland mushrooms for sale. I make a mean curry. I know far too much about Matsumoku-era Japanese Aria guitars. I can still remember most of my Sinclair Spectrum machine code. I helped to prove from geotechnical data that there is a continuous layer of impermeable clay below the Stratford Olympic Village site preventing migration of contaminants buried beneath the multi-million pound development thereon from leaching into sensitive waterways. I can calculate weight bearing and design roof trusses for lots and lots of snow. I ran 10km in a very slow 59m 52s once. I came second in an egg and spoon race when I was four. I invented one of the first network instant messaging systems in 1991 using BBC BASIC and various network hacks. I then implemented it in Winword. I know far too much about brasses. I have three points on my driving licence that I should have had removed seven years ago. I can't ice skate. If any of these skills or lack of are capitalisable to you, drop me a PM....!! Callers are standing by.

Gutted!!!
Do you not use some sort of case?
I use a great rubber one that in VERY close to the phone so doesn't even look like i use one!
Looks good and would save my phone if i ever dropped it

Ouch...
Many sympathies. And good luck learning Finnish, it's horribly tough. I gave up and learnerd Swedish instead from my Finnish ex - helluva lot easier.

@OneZeoN - I've never actually used a case before, and it is only recently (well, July 2010) when I bought my first large format screen phone. Before then They were semi-bricks like my Nokia 5800 Xpress Music which you'd need to stab with an icepick to damage. My original Galaxy S never failed either. I've always been very careful (or lucky).
I guess I fell for the svelte design and feather weight of the S2. It's a shame that form is taking more precedence over function in some kind of counter-productive race on thinnest-flattest-lightest-shiniest, as the walls of material physics are being hit hard. Shock-absorbancy doesn't marry well with thin and stiff as my S2 proves.
I'm going over whether to run a silicone skin or a proper bumper case. Given that every Euro counts at the moment (upcoming school books and my wife needs a nurse uniform "for school", woof) I'm a little worried that silicone might not provide the protection and assurance an expensive phone like an S2 really needs. As you say, more than likely better than no protection!
@B3311 - Finnish is unfeasibly hard. That said, it is very logical like German is. You can read Finnish straight from the page and even if you don't know the words or the sense of what you are reading, everything can be vocalised. The grammar is the problem, cramming that system into your head and then realising you haven't had time to absorb any vocab so you have nothing useful to say. I keep telling myself that two years of intensive language courses will pay off for the rest of my life. Swedish is easy, yes.

Does it affect the way your screen renders things or is it only on the gorilla glass?
My friend dropped his belt buckle on his LG Optimus 2X and cracked his gorilla glass but it still turns on and renders without problems. He sent it back to LG and got a replacement (only the glass) for $5 + $10 service fee.
Or maybe this can help?

Thanks for the link. My glass is immaculate and the crack is in the screen component mounted beneath the glass itself.
More than a little polishing required here!
<edit: apologies for the bad photo. snap decision and not set up fully hence the reflection!>

If you find a source for the bits, I would be pleased to hear about it.
My buddy's son did the same thing, but the display underneath is OK, but the glass is cracked. He now has my spare gel case, but needs to find a new glass.
Someone else, with an iPhone 4, told me his agent charged £180 to replace the glass when he did it.

The screen, glass and bezel seem to comprise one unit. I haven't taken my S2 apart any further than the rear plastic cover and bezel as I only really want to try this once I get around to replacing the screen for real. It seems it will be a "full body transplant" of all components and boards from the old damaged (well, killed) screen straight across to the new unit.
A full teardown is available here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-2-Teardown/5861/1
...and a little-too-quick-for-my-liking video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKztg1ra4-0
Most of this evening will be spent looking for sources. Amazon and "Ali Express" seem like the most likely sources, however I haven't even found suggestions here really. Has nobody broken their S2 yet, unlike me?
I'm marginally concerned about ordering from a random Chinese site, however since it likely won't come from anywhere else what can I do? X'D
Oh, and despite my apparent light-hearted posting I am still depressed. Levity in the face of gravity and all that.

"Disassembly" in pic slideshow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYNy0ODQ26A

Has anybody had any experience with this company? Going to ask this in the accessories section also.
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-lcd-touch-screen-digitizer-replacement.html

I sympathise with the OP. I cracked the glass to the left of the home screen button, it shattered in an area 6 x 10 mm and propogated from the bottom left hand corner, with 4 long cracks running into the main screen area. Fortunatly for me the it still works and the long cracks are very fine and not too distracting.
It was in my pocket when it happen and i don't recall bashing into anything. I assume it was a glancing blow from the handle of a cupboard door which matches the hight where my phone would sit in my pocket. When I first pull it out I thought I had my friends phone (HTC Touch HD2 since he has cracks from where it fell from his bike) gutted when I realised what had occurred.
I have looked up service centres in the uk and was sent to CPW in Bristol, spoke to "the Tech Guy" they quote £150, 2 days lead on the part (incidental anecdote: and their engineer isnt in because he has a bad back. The guy told me had had a similar crack in his sgs2.) Have found others offering fitting for £125 but would much prefer the recommendation of a stranger on a website i lurk in . I have put a cheap screen protector on top so not to loose further glass.
anyway good luck.

Small donation sent. Good luck.

Thank you! I really appreciate it and the other donations made so far. I calculate that I am about 2-3% of the way there already. I think I remember where my anti-static wrist strap is also! I just need to locate a SAMOLED+ screen replacement.
I believe I will need to inspect the screen assembly when it arrives, as this may not involve a "full body" transplant and might just require the Gorilla glass debonding from the bezel rather than a full disassemble. I'm not sure which of these I actually prefer however...
@s1lvf1sh - those propogating cracks must be a complete nightmare as any pressure will surely apply stress along them! I don't know whether the glass can be replaced on its own as it seems to be that it is bonded to the SAMOLED itself. Perhaps this goes some way as to explaining the high cost of glass replacement services? I hope to see Samsung using flexible AMOLEDs in the next couple of years, as they appear to be all but immune to convential damage.
....and unconvential damage....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8S8tbQMp2k

Pulled the trigger on a new SAMOLED screen from a UK reseller for a reasonable price. Should arrive next week, so unless I get some good time during the day that week I will be documenting the replacement process next Saturday and uploading the same or the next day or thereabouts.
Thanks to everybody that made donations. Found out yesterday that my next language book will cost me €49(£42) which is a serious dent in our general finances alongside this new screen and my intended bumper case. Any supplementary donations are always welcome of course! :-D
Whilst I am on-topic; if any steps of the transplant process need documenting in specific detail, it would be a good time to discuss those now I guess.

I'm no expert here..... but on my O2 mini I had many a year ago I had the screen go garbled like that after i dropped it. Now I understand that this phone is a amoled where my O2 was an lcd but I found the problem with the O2 was the flat cable connection for the screen to the motherboard....
Just a thought and doubt your problem is the same but you have to pull the phone apart anyway so worth a check.

pbrown77 said:
I'm no expert here..... but on my O2 mini I had many a year ago I had the screen go garbled like that after i dropped it. Now I understand that this phone is a amoled where my O2 was an lcd but I found the problem with the O2 was the flat cable connection for the screen to the motherboard....
Just a thought and doubt your problem is the same but you have to pull the phone apart anyway so worth a check.
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It's unlikely that I am the first person with a broken S2 LCD/LED given the number of them up for sale out there. In that respect any fatal design flaws should have been reported by now, so I doubt it will be a similar problem however I never rule anything out until I have appropriate evidence so I will definitely examine the damaged screen and trace the source of the crack back through to the initial shock transmission point in the (relatively) inelastic case.
In other news, I am heavily tempted to buy an aluminium Taurus case.

don't buy the story. My SG2 fell down 3times. One time even from more than 2.5 meters hight. No impact on any function so far.
sorry, but wish you good luck anyway. May God give you power to manage your life with honour.

Story? It's far from being a story at this end of the Internet! I'm stuck with "using" a GT-S3370E whilst I've been rejigging money to cover this repair and have discovered the downside of syncing all your contacts with your Google account....when you move backwards to an older phone that can't do that, you find that you have no numbers on your phone. Bleh.
Good luck with dropping your phone "successfully". Most people just don't get second chances you know? Just happy that I'm living my life honourably under my own steam thanks.
PS. A big Saturday handshake to the last donation received! Makes me feel a hell of a lot less "out in the cold" from my little disaster.
PPS. Missing Android.

Feel with you. Made my first scratch today dropping mine from knee height as well...Luckily its at the edge of the screen and barely visible.
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bingoking said:
Feel with you. Made my first scratch today dropping mine from knee height as well...Luckily its at the edge of the screen and barely visible.
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No scratches in mine. I suppose that just makes it worse, that I wrote off a pristine Gorilla Glass screen by cracking the LED underneath. I hated the scratch in my original S. 3mm right down in the middle, two-thirds down. Grr.
Considering a Zonus leather wallet case instead of a bumper. Not a fan of the portrait ones though. A little too Star Trek communicator for my liking....reminds me of Ace Ventura too....

This phone has the worst build quality ever.

My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.

Pictures?

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My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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think you were just very unlucky (or else they were trollin' and kept sending you the same one back lol)
my second one isnt 100% perfect, but for me even a 100% perfect galaxy s4 wouldnt be close to tempting me away from a 99% perfect One.

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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FYI, the Nexus 4 was made by LG...
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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i think this phone build quality is really great if i'm honest, the Samsungs plastic feel/build quality is a lot worse, perhaps you were just unlucky in the handsets you received out of the box

We have more than few threads discussing imperfections and issues on early batch
HTC subtly admitted it when they delayed the entire launch and specifically mentioned camera and casing as the reason, yes they called it short of supplies but it actually meant they discovered low yields
Anyway all you can do is either wait for the April batches and exchange or start now until u get a perfect one
What is for sure however what you have now is not a proper representation for this device final build quality
keywords: Defect, Warranty
We had the same drama during the One X, defects cleared within 2 months, or took me 2 exchanges, my final one was manufactured in April

Enjoy the GS4 :thumbup:
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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in 13 march you said
,,I want plastic, I want a removable battery and a Micro SD. You know the only reason they want to design these features out is cause it saves money, they can charge for cloud storage and they blame a removable battery and Micro SD for helping piracy along. It's all about stopping your choice and the irony of it is, taking these features out probably costs less, is less premium and these "premium" metal and glass materials just means more money for this companies in repairs, especially with a non removable battery.,,
and you didn,t like either htc one camera
,,The camera has a lot of noise, not very sharp either,,
but you still bought HTC ONE, and also changed TWICE...
VERY INTERSTING FACTS

I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?

Pictures of your defects please or don't blame anyone accusing of trolling

Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx

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are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx
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Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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Yeah you clearly stated you would never own a phone without an SD slot or removable battery. You either changed your mind from a very long winded statement bashing the one or your trolling. And three phones? You have had three defective phones Sent to you?
With a delayed launch and low inventory and the phone just released you have been able to get three phones?
Bull****
Edit. This is obviously a troll thread and should be closed
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Just another f*cking (HTC-)Hater/(Samsung-)Fanboy...
Nothing to note here.
Hater or Fanboy... whatever... IGNORE...
Objective opinion...
Subjective opinion...
There is no perfect phone
There is also no scrapphone (except I(gitt...)Phone) :laugh:
Close this ****

He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Dam trolls!

fernando sor said:
He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Sounds a lot like he just took information from threads where people said they didn't like x feature, combined them all into one massive "I hate this phone" thread, and probably doesn't even own the phone.

I was wondering how he could see dead pixel on 468 PPI
I'm loving my HTC One. What a phone
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it wouldn't be a surprise, its not the first thread of such nature

[Warning: giant pics inside] My experiences with disassembling the OnePlus One

Meh, might as well. Repost from OnePlus Forums.
Update: finally added the Note 2 battery's weight
Tip: resize the browser window to make the thread more readable.
I should add that I facilitate no allegiance to any particular phone brand, nor am I sponsored by any phone brand. I work for myself, and make my own decisions based on fact, not personal biases. I love the OnePlus One as a phone, I just don't like what the company is doing to their customers.
It all started when I created a thread about the iPhone 5C's battery being able to be upgraded. I was then met with the question: "Why didn't OnePlus make the battery on its One removable? Another manufacturer, Samsung, could make a phone that had a larger removable battery in a form factor that was thinner and shorter than the OPO, even with the addition of a MicroSD slot and a USB 3.0 port." I was informed that OnePlus chose to make their battery non-removable, because if they did, it would end up being a 2500 mAh cell, 80% that of the current 3100 mAh, due to the inclusion of a protective shell, regulatory circuitry, spring contacts etc.
Then I thought, "Weird; the 5" Samsung Galaxy S4 has a removable battery, but it has a 2600 mAh battery!" So to settle things once and for all (for now), I went ahead and disassembled my OnePlus One, to compare its internal battery's volume with a removable equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy Note 2's (also 3100 mAh). Seeing that OnePlus warranty is near non-existent anyway, even if the phone did fail or malfunction due to manufacturer fault, I'd just get another phone to save the trouble of going through RMA hell.
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Now, I'm not going to dissect the batteries; rechargeable cells are very dangerous, and can explode if punctured. So, I measured the dimensions of both batteries to calculate their respective volumes. I didn't have a digital scale on me, so I couldn't calculate the energy density of Li-ion (Note 2) vs. LiPo (OPO).
The dimensions (in milimeters) of the batteries are as follows:
OnePlus One
Length: 83.39 mm
Width: 57.84 mm
Thickness: 4.38 mm
Volume: 21125.96 cubic mm
Energy Density (power/weight): 230.98 Wh/kg
Volumetric Mass Density (weight/volume): 0.0024 g/cubic mm
Note 2
Length: 75.00 mm
Width: 55.44 mm
Thickness: 5.65 mm
Volume: 23492.7 cubic mm
Energy Density (power/weight): 226.54 Wh/kg
Volumetric Mass Density (weight/volume): 0.0022 g/cubic mm
This makes the volume of the OnePlus One's battery 89.9% that of the Note 2's, so the percentage difference is only 10.1%. Keep in mind that this is lithium ion vs. lithium polymer. Li-ions need more protective circuitry to prevent overcharging and exploding and whatnot, compared to their LiPo counterparts. And from what I heard, LiPos have a higher energy density than Li-ions, which is why I wanted to calculate how much the batteries weighed as well.
Edit: The OnePlus One's battery has a comparatively higher energy density (1.8% higher), a smaller volume, and a higher mass density (8.3%!!!!) than the Note 2's, meaning a LiPo battery should provide more power than a Li-ion of the same weight and volume. But, since the difference is so small, it's probably going to cancel out once we take into account the protective shell and protection circuits and whatnot. In conclusion, the point below still stands due to the negligible difference because it is calculated based on the removable equivalent having around the same specifications.
Just going by these numbers, a removable equivalent for the OnePlus should be roughly 2780 mAh (10.4% decrease), not 2500 as OnePlus has claimed (a ~20% decrease). Of course, this is inconclusive, but this should give you a better idea of what's actually happening here.
The Galaxy S4 featured here is the LTE-A version, sporting a Snapdragon 800 chipset, more closely related to the OPO's Snapdragon 801 compared to the Snapdragon 600 S4.
I have discovered that the OnePlus's processor may not be adequately cooled. Since smartphones are passive devices, they aren't actively cooled by fans like computers are, so they rely on heat dissipation through the use of a heatsink of some sort.
The Samsung Galaxy S4's chassis is made of magnesium alloy, just not as abundantly so as the OPO. The logic board well is form-fitting, and there are thermal pads that contact the underside of the logic board to the chassis in order to dissipate heat. Since the chassis is so big, heat is easily dissipated.
The OPO, however, looks like it's insulated at the area where the chipset is closest to the chassis with what seems to be carbon paper/film. Now, I'm no materials expert (and correct me if I'm wrong), but I'm pretty sure carbon in this state should act as an insulator. I say this because iPhones use the same stuff on the chassis to protect the LCD from heat damage (on the iPhone, the film is on the LCD side and not the logic board side).
On the underside of the logic board, we see that there's a steel cage covering the on-board components, covered by a thermal pad.
What does this mean? It means that under load, a Samsung phone will feel hotter to the touch, because that's the passive cooling system in action. In the case of the OnePlus one, it might not feel as hot as a Samsung under similar loads, but when it does get hot, it's really, really hot. So hot that the small heatsink and carbon film can't contain or dissipate it.
For size comparison purposes, here's the Galaxy S4's logic board next to the OPO's. Remember that the S4 is a 5 inch phone.
Assembly was probably quite sloppy; the tape used to insulate the speaker contacts is off-center on the left speaker.
The weak vibrate motor cannot be upgraded, as it is soldered to the flex.
The earpiece grille is centered on the front of the phone, but it is offset to the left internally because the camera module takes up the space in the center, as can be seen below. This may or may not contribute to the low earpiece volume, since it is channeled.
The rear microphone (pictured below) is also offset slightly lower than the hole next to the rear camera. Outside, the hole is parallel to the center-point of the camera lens, but internally, it is parallel to the top of the flash LED closest to the camera. I'm not sure how effective this placement is. The top microphone (refer to picture above, left of front camera hole) is channeled.
I should update my signature.

Nice!!
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This is what i call informative!Thank you @vantt1

Very informative, thank you.

Thanks was it that difficult?
Hit Thanks if I Helped
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Thank You. So how hard would it be to replace the battery when the original starts dying?

Good work!
Sent via quantum entanglement, focused through my OnePlus One.

This was amazingly informative, one of the best posts I've seen in awhile! Kudos mate

It's hard to tell the thermal conductivity of carbon because it largely depends on the allotrope (type of carbon).

carbon is an excellent heat conductor, it even better than metal.

janice1234 said:
carbon is an excellent heat conductor, it even better than metal.
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It depends on what form of carbon - some are excellent but others are mediocre, at best.

gavin-phelan said:
Thanks was it that difficult?
Hit Thanks if I Helped
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Not that difficult, I've had difficult-er
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It's hard to tell the thermal conductivity of carbon because it largely depends on the allotrope (type of carbon).
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Yeah, that's why I was "pretty sure" and not "completely sure". I have yet to find any straight answers as to whether if carbon is a conductor or insulator.
I know for a fact that iPhones have a similar sticker on their chassis. It's found on the midframe between the LCD and the logic board, and it is stuck on the LCD side. It is commonly called the heat shield, meaning it protects the LCD from the logic board's heat. Since it's on the LCD side and not the logic board side, I'm more inclined to think it's an insulator.
iPhone 4:
iPhone 5S:
It would make no sense for it to be a conductor, or else it'd conduct the heat to the LCD.

Great informative post... Thx for the teardown.
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Great post, thank you

Worth it to just to see the rd battery !!!
nice work thanks,
I'll open mine as soon they release the kevlar back ! :silly:

Does LiPo also have a limited number of charges like Li-ion? Will we have to deal with shorter battery life as it ages?

nice work!
nice work!
Thank you so much!

Thanks,
Excellent work. You're a braver man than I for sure!!!!!!
Question: Did you get it back together and did it work???
Seems like a lot of us are like 12 year old little boys.
Take it apart and worry about the rest later, right???
Ken

notesbancales said:
Worth it to just to see the rd battery !!!
nice work thanks,
I'll open mine as soon they release the kevlar back ! :silly:
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I think OnePlus canceled all the StyleSwap covers for good.
clevebb said:
Does LiPo also have a limited number of charges like Li-ion? Will we have to deal with shorter battery life as it ages?
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Yes, it does. All batteries, li-ion and LiPo, will decrease in capacity the more charge cycles it goes through.
kenfb1 said:
Thanks,
Excellent work. You're a braver man than I for sure!!!!!!
Question: Did you get it back together and did it work???
Seems like a lot of us are like 12 year old little boys.
Take it apart and worry about the rest later, right???
Ken
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Of course!

Very detailed indeed, so how hard do you think it is to replace the screen/digitizer?
Thanks

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG V30, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG V30 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

This is my first Android device since the original Moto X, which I only purchased to find out a little about Android.
I was not impressed with the Apple rollout this year, even though I've bought a new iPhone every autumn for ten years. I don't like the fight between Apple and Qualcomm, which has caused them to turn off some features on the Qualcomm chips so that nobody who gets an Intel modem feels inferior.
So far I'm enjoying the V30, although I am having a problem getting used to the keyboard. I know that an iPhone will kick its ass in benchmarks, but for everyday use, it hasn't mattered much yet.
Tremendous audio with a headset, and not ½ bad audio through Bluetooth or tethering.

Just compared headphone output from my T-mobile v30 to my wifes iphone x using my Shure 846's. No comparison, iphone blows away v30. Half the volume from iphone is equal to full volume on my v30 and v30 is supposed to have the built-in DAC! What gives? Makes no sense to me. I bought this phone thinking I could finally listen without dragging my Dragonfly around, but not happening this time around. The only music loud enough using v30 is loudly mastered, brick-walled music, which I rarely listen to. I usually listen to either Tidal or my own digitized vinyl rips. Very disappointing.

mistemuse said:
Just compared headphone output from my T-mobile v30 to my wifes iphone x using my Shure 846's. No comparison, iphone blows away v30. Half the volume from iphone is equal to full volume on my v30 and v30 is supposed to have the built-in DAC! What gives? Makes no sense to me. I bought this phone thinking I could finally listen without dragging my Dragonfly around, but not happening this time around. The only music loud enough using v30 is loudly mastered, brick-walled music, which I rarely listen to. I usually listen to either Tidal or my own digitized vinyl rips. Very disappointing.
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Just asking, do you have the quad DAC enabled? It's a setting you have to turn on, not sure why it's not enabled by default.
There's also this, which is well-written and I'm quoting from another thread, one specifically devoted to the quad DAC and loudness:
Billy Madison said:
QuadDAC is not about loudness, it's about quality and fidelity of sound. It won't blow your eardrums with MP3s
It's not 75. Android has 16 grades of sound volume in stock, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... 15, 16.
16 being loudest. If every 15 is divided in 5 it's give us 75= 15*5
So that's why V20 has only 75 grades, it's not that there's some magic extra 25 to 100, for they don't exist in Android. But you may get like 34% of loudness or 68% which you can't have in another Android phones, for they have 5% steps only
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@mistemuse, you seem to be confusing the quad DAC with the amp.
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-audio-797447/
The chip features stereo quad parallel delta sigma converter channels with a 32-bit interpolation filter for a low noise conversion process, which ESS calls its HyperStream II architecture. For the spec insatiable audiophiles, the ES9218 boasts 2.0Vrms output, 130 dB SNR and -114 dB Total Harmonic Distortion, and support for up to 32-bit 384kHz PCM and DSD256 file formats. Of course, real world additional circuit performance, required drive from the amp, and input file type will affect these stats somewhat, but they’re impressive nonetheless.
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But it should be loud enough if you have it enabled.

Yes, the DAC is automatically enabled as soon as I plug-in my cans. But really, weather it's enabled or not the degree of loudness appears the same to me. Also, before I bought this phone I thought I read many claims that the v30 in addition to a DAC, also had an amp as well. Maybe I was just being hope-full. In regards to the Android grade system that is mentioned, one need look no further than Phone Arena reviews, where they measure headphone output, and the v30 finished below the Note. One would think that if you were to brag about the audio in a phone that loudness would be cranked up as well because I do not know any audio lover that doesn't like their music loud. If HTC can do it why not LG?

This post makes no sense to me. The v30 DAC only works with wired headphones, the apple x is Bluetooth only. Is there something I am missing?

Yes you did. An adapter is provided with just about any phone that does not come with a headphone jack, enabling you to listen wired.

Rideit12 said:
This post makes no sense to me. The v30 DAC only works with wired headphones, the apple x is Bluetooth only. Is there something I am missing?
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No, you didn't really miss anything. There are people who are apologists for bad designs. (Any phone without a headset jack.) Apple isn't "Bluetooth only" -- but by removing the headset jack they are forcing you in that direction. You can't listen and charge at the same time (with the dongle they provide).
OR you can BUY a $35 dongle which lets you listen and charge at the same time. Apple took away functionality and then charging you money to add it back.
You have to carry an extra dongle around, which you can lose. Or you can buy their expensive headset buds. BINGO! After making fun of Apple last year for doing that, Google joined them this year in the biggest show of hypocrisy in a long, long time.
mistemuse said:
Yes you did. An adapter is provided with just about any phone that does not come with a headphone jack, enabling you to listen wired.
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Yes, one of many dongles Apple makes -- so you can have back the functionality they took away in the first place.
You have to carry dongles around, which you can lose -- instead of having the 3.5mm headset jack in the first place. LG and Samsung have IP68 (higher) rating WITH a headset jack than Apple's IP67 rating WITHOUT a headset jack. So, had nothing to do with water/dust resistance, but instead trying to force you to use their pricey Bluetooth earbuds.
Samsung even made a video mocking Apple for such nonsense (including other dubious design decisions over the years).
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No password possible?
Total thread drift here, but is it possible to run the v30 with no password or fingerprint Id? I personally have no use for it...

I thought this review reflected the V30 very well. Also, the reference to the iPhone X having a unibrow sums up my take on that.

Rideit12 said:
Total thread drift here, but is it possible to run the v30 with no password or fingerprint Id? I personally have no use for it...
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The only problem with that is your display then is never locked. It's unlocked. You stick your phone in your pocket and the display can turn on and is ACTIVE. You can accidentally dial people, send garbled text messages, turn on apps, etc. aka "butt dialing", due to pressure on the active display. You really need to not only turn off the display, but lock it. Even a swipe gesture can be simulated with pressure in your pocket. I've seen many people complain about it, but the only solution is to lock the display so it can only be unlocked with a pattern/pin/fingerprint.
I set my phone to lock the display immediately every time I turn off the display. I then use a pattern to unlock the display when I turn it back on. When I get my LG V30, I will most probably use the fingerprint sensor.

Just got the V30+ (Black) and wow.. this thing is a beauty! Feels premium in the hand and looks stunning. Screen is almost perfect, wonderful colors, very sharp and super bright. The only issue here is the relatively narrow viewing angles. Far from a deal breaker for me, but it's up to you I guess.
I'll have to use it few days for a final opinion but so far I think this one is a winner. BTW, no uniformity issue here.

galr said:
Just got the V30+ (Black) and wow.. this thing is a beauty! Feels premium in the hand and looks stunning. Screen is almost perfect, wonderful colors, very sharp and super bright. The only issue here is the relatively narrow viewing angles. Far from a deal breaker for me, but it's up to you I guess.
I'll have to use it few days for a final opinion but so far I think this one is a winner. BTW, no uniformity issue here.
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Very interested in design.
It looks so bland in pictures.... Does it really strike you as different?

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Very interested in design.
It looks so bland in pictures.... Does it really strike you as different?
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Yes, definitely.
The black version is a beauty in my opinion.. feels and looks very premium.
The only problem with the design, and sadly it's a disease we have on most phones.. curved screen.
Screen protectors just don't like curved screens. It doesn't look as impressive when the edges of the screen protector don't have 100% contact with the screen.. you know how it.
Personally I'll take flat screen any day.
Given that all phones are curved a bit on the edges..I had the chose the best one for me , the V30.
Keep in mind, it does collect smudges and fingerprints easily.
Overall I am really happy with it.
Again, downsides : Narrow viewing angles, selfie camera, curved screen.
Battery life is great so far, we don't have AT&T here so no bloat. I get around 5 hours SOT with about 20 hours on battery and still have around 30% left.

galr said:
Yes, definitely.
The black version is a beauty in my opinion.. feels and looks very premium.
The only problem with the design, and sadly it's a disease we have on most phones.. curved screen.
Screen protectors just don't like curved screens. It doesn't look as impressive when the edges of the screen protector don't have 100% contact with the screen.. you know how it.
Personally I'll take flat screen any day.
Given that all phones are curved a bit on the edges..I had the chose the best one for me , the V30.
Keep in mind, it does collect smudges and fingerprints easily.
Overall I am really happy with it.
Again, downsides : Narrow viewing angles, selfie camera, curved screen.
Battery life is great so far, we don't have AT&T here so no bloat. I get around 5 hours SOT with about 20 hours on battery and still have around 30% left.
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I've got the unlocked v30 in silver. Overall, I'm happy so far, but not wowed by the design. It is nice and light and thin. I agree with your comments about the curved screen. I'm glad that the v30 screen is less curved than others. I went with a wet application screen guard made by skinomi. Happy with it so far. The edges haven't peeled up. If you go this route, you need to spend a lot of time with the installation to make sure the edges stay down. Hairdryer was key for me.
I'm coming from a LG G5. The one thing I noticed was that the whites were way whiter on the g5 than the v30.
Regarding your comment on viewing angles, how did you come to that opinion? I find them to be quite good. Did you run a test or use a display app to analyze the angles or is it just your day to day experience?

Chiming in for the V30S, essentially similar to V30 except for bump to 6GB RAM and 128GB internal storage.
I'm extremely happy with this phone.
With Soundmagic E80 headphones which trigger high impedance mode of the HiFi DAC set to "slow" filter, the audio is phenomenal - this is the main reason I bought this phone. The SD835 with 6GB is much smoother and faster than my previous phone with SD808 and 3GB. Display is fine, none of the issues reported with early V30's, the "comfort mode" to reduce blue light is a plus too. Fingerprint reader works well, a new convenience for me. Lighter and thinner than my last phone. Great battery performance. QC 3.0 is a substantial improvement over QC 2.0 and there are a lot of aftermarket chargers which also means some with safety certifications. Bootloader unlock and root, with the stuff you can do with that including Ti Backup with the bloatware freezing , AdAway, and YouTube adaway and background play (thanks XDA community!). IP68 and some degree of ruggedness. I load FLACs to feed the DAC so 128 GB storage was nice to find with the added SD slot (watching for mass market 512GB cards soon).
Only a couple niggles: The WiFi (client mode) does not handle same-SSID AP handoffs very well, it hangs my app streaming FLACs from an NAS when a handoff occurs (my last two phones could keep the app going through a handoff). Not a showstopper, the workaround is to use a single 2.4GHz AP so no handoff occurs (2.4GHz has enough range to cover my whole house). The longer screen makes one-handed use more difficult at times, trying to reach both the top and bottom which are father apart. Um, that's about it for the negatives so far. Others may have more problems but I keep things simple, no auto-brightness, no voice assistant, Nova Launcher with the obnoxious Google search field banished, no active wallpaper, LG keyboard replaced with Gboard minus the fancy stuff, privacy invasions, and built-in Google search, etc.
Really pleased so far. The B&H $250 discount deal was nice too, getting all this at the discounted price is a great deal.

Coming from the Apple environment, I'm very pleased. I've rediscovered that you CAN configure your phone to suit your personality and your needs, rather than what Apple thinks that we should consider important. And I'm absolutely ecstatic to still be using my wired headphone... and no... I don't care what the Bluetooth consortium maintains, Bluetooth 5 still does not come close to the quality and reliability of a quality pair of headphones through a properly supported 3.5 headphone jack. Apple is making a mint out of royalties to ensure compatibility with their wireless connected devices, (not to mention those ugly wireless headset they sell for around $149). Sure, I miss Facetime. And to a certain extent I also miss iMessage. But I'll stick to a device that I can use in accordance to my own needs... not Apple's. Pretty happy with my LG V30 ThinQ, so far.

Very satisfying device overall, coming back to LG, after the G4. Had Nokia 8 and Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 in between.

My LG V30 got a bit bored and I looked at the market - what interesting is available?
And it turns out that absolutely nothing can replace this phone!
All new smartphones are thicker, larger, or lacking in functionality such as wireless charging or water resistance. None has such a headphone amplifier!
The only smartphone that I thought about for a moment is the new Samsung S20 without plus, but I gave up.
Poorly functioning fingerprint reader under the screen (I love the clickable button with the scanner on the back), no 3.5mm jack, ugly island with lenses on the back ...
There is no alternative for me on the market.

figer said:
My LG V30 got a bit bored and I looked at the market - what interesting is available?
And it turns out that absolutely nothing can replace this phone!
All new smartphones are thicker, larger, or lacking in functionality such as wireless charging or water resistance. None has such a headphone amplifier!
The only smartphone that I thought about for a moment is the new Samsung S20 without plus, but I gave up.
Poorly functioning fingerprint reader under the screen (I love the clickable button with the scanner on the back), no 3.5mm jack, ugly island with lenses on the back ...
There is no alternative for me on the market.
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I know. This V30 series and the 2018 V35 -- which was an upgraded V30 (basically a V40 built in a V30 frame with NO notch) -- was the height of design and functionality. If only I could find the 128GB V35+... (only shipped to Brazil and I can't find any online).