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Hi all, just nabbed a 7.7 today moving away from the p1000. I started playing around with the camera and I immediately noticed some oddities especially when switching to video mode set at 720p quality.
Below are screenshots taken with my SGS 2, where I placed the tablet stationary at a certain distance from my printer and tested different resolution settings on the camera, while maintaining the tablet in same position at all times.
First a test with the picture mode, the distances between 480p and the highest quality isn't very noticeable but it's there,
480p
Highest quality with widescreen
This, I have no problems whatsoever, taking pictures still feels the same as the p1000 and that's good because I'm used to that.
Next is where I am really confused. When switching to video mode, I noticed the entire printer seems to be zoomed in closer and the graininess has increased drastically (I suspect the increased in graininess comes from zooming too close to it). I have checked everywhere in the menu to look for zoom settings but alas, after googling around the tablet's default camera app doesn't support zoom at all. Which brings me to an even bigger problem, as it just feels out of place when everything is zoomed in whenever I wanted to take a video recording. After turning down the quality to 480p, it felt so much better with the distancing between the object and the camera. Pics below will show the comparison between both settings,
480p video
720p video
Is everyone else having this same oddity with their camera as well? I hope its not a 'normal' thing cause I'd be hating it immensely (just using 480p mode in the meantime) :|
any kind sgt owners willing to test this out for me and give a feedback?
at least I could pinpoint if its a hardware or software problem, if its different between other tablets.
I am having the same problem. I was wanting to use my 7.7 as a uStream live streaming device for some of our company events, and because of this problem, I am using my phone instead, which sucks because phone calls can interupt!
Anyone else notice vid camera zoomed all of the way in, with no other way to zoom out. Is there a fix?
I have never used 720p video recording before, but after reading this thread I just tried it. Same problem as reported. On 480p everything works fine, but on 720p vid is zoomed in alot. Also quality is way worse than on 480p.
I guess without this thread I would have never noticed that, but this is indeed a huge bug that should not happen on final software for an expensive device like this.
It is advertised with hd video recording after all...
thanks guys for the feedback!
I was almost tempted to try another firmware but with different SGT 7.7's out there affected by this bug, it needs to be reported.
I am pretty sure it is a software problem which is causing the camera to zoom in on HD mode (digital zooming is possible with third party software as I have tried it)
Also, because it is always digitally zoomed in, the quality/graininess will be a lot worse, this is what every tab 7.7 owner will be looking at.
Could anyone guide me to report this directly to Samsung? I'm hoping its fixed before official ICS!
bump, anyone else having the same issues with their camera just give a feedback here.
+1
Also the text is cut off in settings when in landscape.. geez
I have the same issue. Tried using a video recorder app off the market and it would digital zoom 720p and 480p so that wasn't any help.
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mgleed said:
I have the same issue. Tried using a video recorder app off the market and it would digital zoom 720p and 480p so that wasn't any help.
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yeap great feedback
please guys, I am sure this is a worldwide problem for every sgt 7.7 out there,
the default factory setting on the camera is broken
need some experts on this issue and if there's a possible fix
Anyone running XXLC3 rom from mars? Since im still on XXLA4, but i have deodexed XXLC3 rom, so later these evening i'll test the latest camera to see how far this bug goes..
anyone with the new official ICS rom be able to test the camera out to see if they resolved this problem in a stealth fix?
my tab's with mum so I can't try it
I will forever be in your debt
Just installed open Austria ICS and the bug is still there
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kishd said:
Just installed open Austria ICS and the bug is still there
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wow that sucks ! I dont have the sgt 7.7 with me but this is too serious to be overlooked
i guess based on the amount of responses in this thread most of the tab owners never really cared about 720p video recording
this is my FINAL samsung android product... I feel that they have dropped the ball this time, their pinnacle being SGS 2 and I will always remember the younger days when samsung was focused on something good,
now they are just releasing products like different branded cereal without even tasting them first.
someone explained this one to me before since I hate the 'zoom' effect of the screen as well, but as per his explanation, this could be due to the camera pixel, we have a 3.2 on board camera, using it in 3.2mpxl snapper makes use of the whole image sensor pixel array. using the 720P video on the other hand will use only a portion of that array and the software automatically fill the screen. I don't have an explanation regarding the full screen, un-zoomed 480P though,
I dont find this as a problem but if we can just have this adjusted (zoom in and out) it would be much better
Sammy juat stopped caring about their tabs. Gs3 is making sales targets. Thats good enough for them. Too bad! 7 inch market is super competative. If they dont act fast they will lose just like blackbery and their underdeveloped playbok
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haksam said:
anyone with the new official ICS rom be able to test the camera out to see if they resolved this problem in a stealth fix?
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I am so angry I'm considering ditching Samsung. ICS finally arrived in the UK via Kies a couple of days ago. I didn't have this issue with Honeycomb but now with ICS my P6800 video camera, when in HD mode displays a zoomed image. The only reason I;m not ditching it right now is because of the SuperAMOLED screen - the same reason I paid silly money for it when I could have gotten a Nexus.
I have done some recherching and found out this is not a bug! Many devices have this. I'll try to explain what happens:
If you record videos in HD, your device has to downscale the video to show it to you on display while at the same time saving it in HD resolution and keeping the promised frame rate. This needs too much processing power, framerate would just drop. So they use a little trick: If you don't downscale the preview but only show a small part of what the sensor gets you save alot of processing power. But on the other hand it gives you the noticed "zoomed-in" look, also the image quality is less because it does not use the whole sensor (like it would on a still).
The saved video should look normal (not zoomed-in).
Hope my english is not too bad so you can understand what I mean
Camera ics + doesnt zoom in when recording ^^
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I have done some recherching and found out this is not a bug! Many devices have this. I'll try to explain what happens:
If you record videos in HD, your device has to downscale the video to show it to you on display while at the same time saving it in HD resolution and keeping the promised frame rate. This needs too much processing power, framerate would just drop. So they use a little trick: If you don't downscale the preview but only show a small part of what the sensor gets you save alot of processing power. But on the other hand it gives you the noticed "zoomed-in" look, also the image quality is less because it does not use the whole sensor (like it would on a still).
The saved video should look normal (not zoomed-in).
Hope my english is not too bad so you can understand what I mean
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Tried recording but when playing back its the same image quality as recording it does not change
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Standard poor copy-paste response from Samsung, which appear not to acknowledge that the device isn't a telephone:
Thank you for contacting Samsung and I have pleasure in providing the following assistance.
I’m sorry you are having issues with your device after upgrading the firmware. I can understand your frustration about this.
Old systems settings can be left on the phone after an update occurs, which is why we usually recommend a full factory reset after updating. If this isn’t done your device may begin to give false readings from system resources, or experience technical problems, which may explain the issue you are having.
We would advise on doing the following, which is designed to reset the settings on your device. Please back up your device using Samsung KIES before you do this.
1) Remove the battery for at least 40 minutes, put the battery back in and allow it to fully discharge. Afterwards, perform a full battery charge with the device turned off. Do not interrupt the charging process.
2) After the battery is fully charged, we would like you to perform a full factory reset, which can be done via Settings > Backup > Reset.
This process will reset your device, remove old system files that are no longer needed and enable your device to operate normally again.
Please let us know if your device continues to experience problems after the reset so we can investigate further.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
SEUK ERMS
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boelze said:
I have done some recherching and found out this is not a bug! Many devices have this. I'll try to explain what happens:
If you record videos in HD, your device has to downscale the video to show it to you on display while at the same time saving it in HD resolution and keeping the promised frame rate. This needs too much processing power, framerate would just drop. So they use a little trick: If you don't downscale the preview but only show a small part of what the sensor gets you save alot of processing power. But on the other hand it gives you the noticed "zoomed-in" look, also the image quality is less because it does not use the whole sensor (like it would on a still).
The saved video should look normal (not zoomed-in).
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I must respectfully disagree. If that were the case then the behaviour should have been the same prior to the ICS update. Also, when copying the video off the device and playing it back on a FullHD capable device the quality is still poor.
I find the camera on the Nexus4 somewhat lacking.
GSMarena just reviewed it and came to the same conclusion.
gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p9.php
By looking at their Compare Tool it seems that LG phones have consistently bad cameras.
1) Is the comparatively high noise in Nexus4 pictures most likely due to limitations in the camera hardware
or is it the result of bad software calibration that can be re-adjusted?
2) I'd like more control over the camera like manual ISO and shutter speed settings.
Is there a custom ROM or 3rd party app that can expose these to the user?
EDIT:
The camera module on the Nexus 4 is "Exmor R" IMX111PQ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850&page=25
The LG Optimus 4X HD shares the same hardware camera module.
When comparing the 2 phones with the GSMarena's Photo Compare Tool it looks
like the LG Optimus 4X performs better noise-wise but has color balance problems (too much red).
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=2&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
Although the Nexus 4's camera is not as good as that of the Samsung Galaxy S3
it seems as though it could be calibrated to perform a bit better than it does at the moment.
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
Should have done your homework first
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
The funny thing about you guys making fun of him, is that you don't exactly know what you're talking about either.
Back when the Evo 3D got upgraded to ICS, the Virgin Mobile version of the Evo 3D got significant camera improvements, and the Evo 3D (Sprint and GSM [international]) were left hanging with a camera that was essentially the same as the one that they had back with Gingerbread.
Here's a link to it, if you'd like to see. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717113&highlight=vm+camera
So to answer your question, yes. Software can be used to enhance the camera. If I were you I'd look in the direction of Sony's mods (Photo editor and related) and check that out. I know that there is a ROM that currently uses this.
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
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If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s, its just a matter of time till someone figures out what lg did wrong with the drivers
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
akbisw said:
Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s,
its just a matter of time till someone figures out what did wrong with the drivers
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Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
The camera drivers have a great influence over the final picture. If we have the source code to the drivers
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
-Mindroid- said:
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
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I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question. I also bought this phone knowing that the camera wasn't its best feature, but I'm also curious if there is a way to improve the software/drivers to improve it. There have been several examples on XDA where this has happened. If you're going to be an Internet tough guy and only offer useless posts then don't post, you not only waste your time but the OPs too.
mreik said:
I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question.
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-Mindroid- said:
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% (edit: 25%) smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
KyraOfFire said:
I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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Thanks, KyraOfFire!
I spent a lot of time thinking how to phrase my question without inviting the trolls. :silly:
GSMarena did scientific benchmarks, their review states the facts, not an opinion.
Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
AnandTech claims the LG Optimus 4X HD has that camera module.
Using the GSMarena's Image Compare Tool I can see that the LG Optimus 4X has much better
noise performance than the Nexus 4. The colors on the LG 4X are a bit off though.
If both phones share the same camera hardware it seems that the Nexus4 noise issue could indeed
be caused by a bad software calibration.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
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Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
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Hi Mindroid, I am glad I could help.
Nexus 4 detailed technical breakdown can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850
It is claimed that the module number is from the kernel source code
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33645116&highlight=camera#post33645116
Edit: I looked at the photos.
Nexus 4 is clearly more noisy than Optimus 4X HD, but it is also somewhat sharper.
Assuming the information is correct and the two phones share the same camera chip, the software can definitely be tuned.
asasione said:
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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yyz71 said:
Should have done your homework first
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spitefulcheerio said:
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
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richteralan said:
If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
- Jim
macr0t0r said:
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
- Jim
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Great thread indeed. If I have time (probably next week), I'll get a camera app that can enable those settings (hint:stock camera app doesn't have those settings) and do some science
I tried the lgCamera app from the Play Store which is supposed to allow more settings like ISO.
I don't think it's working, the pictures look very similar on all ISO settings. It's impossible to tell
for sure because the picture headers don't have the ISO information.
My old Chinese phone has an Engineering Menu that exposes some of the hardware parameters.
Is there anything similar in Jelly Bean?
You could try Camera FV-5 from the play store. I've used it on my One S and it offers a lot of manual controls. My N4 arrives tomorrow so can't tell you how it works, yet, for this phone.
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atoy74 said:
Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
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Agreed, the man asked if the camera can be improved. Don't freaking defend the crappy camera. This is xda. This is where we mod **** till it freaking explodes. Not whine and defend stuff.
Forget picture quality what about sound ! Its terrible on recordings. Background noise sounds garbled. In fact its a chorus for flanger type effect which could be down to the stereo mics?
Hello
As everyone propably knows MXP doesnt have gyroscope sensor. So i would like to know , what are the conseqences of it's lack.
Here are some i read about (and guessed)
- No 360° YT video support
- No Photo Sphare support
- No google cardboard support
- crappy panorama quality (low image size)
What else ?
No google cardboard support too
@bilbo75
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I really, really miss doing the massive photos that i could do with my Nexus 5, the panoramic option on the MXP is utter crap.
@MrBelter
Are you sure , that lack of gyroscope is the cause of crapy panorama quality ? Did you try different camera apps ?
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@MrBelter
Are you sure , that lack of gyroscope is the cause of crapy panorama quality ? Did you try different camera apps ?
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I think you have missed my point, thanks to the gyro the nexus 5 stitched 8mp images together thanks to knowing where in a sphere the last shot was taken, the resultant image was as huge as you could make it and at times incredibly impressive where as the MXP produces a low res 912 pixel high image
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I think you have missed my point, thanks to the gyro the nexus 5 stitched 8mp images together thanks to knowing where in a sphere the last shot was taken, the resultant image was as huge as you could make it and at times incredibly impressive where as the MXP produces a low res 912 pixel high image
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Photosphere is cool,but when do you use it. Its the same as google street view and takes a lot of patience taking all those pictures and try not to move around.I only mis it for the google cardboard for looking around in games. Also bought the trinus vr app to stream this game called elite dangerous arena to the mxp,but cant look around.
Are gyroscopes that expensive to put on the board? It does seem a strange omission.
I've been using the phone for 6 months. Didn't actually miss anything related to the gyro so far.
Hey Everyone,
So Guys , I'm about to buy the Axon 7 A2017 the Chinese variant (Since I'm outside the US) with 4gb RAM and 128gb of storage as an upgrade of my old LG G4, that's why I'm asking you guys to answer me honestly what was your personal experience with this device ? what are the bad sides that have made you frustrated or made you regretting making this purchase ??
I've heard many downsides but I cannot really believe them since many reputable reviewers on Youtube have said the opposite ??
Some Cons I heard :
1-The sound output from Headphones are not really great same for the dual front facing speakers.(Which is a bit shocking as the main promoted feature of this smartphone was the audio capabilities ).
2-The Screen is not clearly visible at direct sunlight
3-The Camera is awful , in other words a piece of crap (I dont really care about Photography or low light stills , but I also hate a smartphone that cannot take some sharp stills at daylight ,such as portait of myself for social media)
4-The capacitive buttons are not back lit , but I think I could get used to them.
5-The UI is buggy and bloated , the phone doesn't have any support from devs and the Company didn't fix many issues and bugs.
6-The fingerprint is not that fast or accurate (I've heard from a review that it works 60-70% of time)
7-Multi tasking and app launching is not good either comparing to smartphones that have the same cpu/gpu like Oneplus 3 , LG G5 ,..
8-Gaming experience is worse , as the 1440p leads to fps drops.
9-Notification are not received , bad sync
10-bad signal reception , bad GPS reception , Wi-fi range ??
Yes I know this is so long because after reading many opinions and seeing many reviews that's what came out !!
I still hear that all this can be fixed by an update but till now (after 6 months of releasing) nothing to be confirmed.
I'm a casual user , I don't root my phones , or install custom roms I can bear the Stock Rom if it's doing well , no bugs or lags.
Guys Please be honest , I know that almost every opinion will be biased , I don't want to buy a whortless smartphone because I also consider buying Oneplus 3 since my brother got it and it's an amazing smartphone blazing fast , takes some good images at good light , charging really so quick , everything is good with it except the battery drain when playing heavy games , the standby drain , and some heat issues.
The reasons that pushes me to consider buying Axon 7 over OP3 is it's great 1440p screen VR ready and the front facing speakers even if the Oneplus 3 have a good display despite it's FHD only and also a decent loudspeakers .
Yeahhh this thing is damnn long, but You know I don't wanna spend 400$ for useless features !!
Best Regards , Youssef
1- Not true, the sound is great with both speakers and headphones, although you may have problems with some apps and compatibility.
2- I use the phone a lot outside and never had any problems reading the screen
3- the camera is awful in low light, but its a really good camera in good light. REALLY good.
4- Yes, this is a con, but you get use to it.
5- False and true. The ui is not bloated and it works really good. I actually like it more than pure stock. But regarding bugs and dev support, its really, really bad.
6- It could be faster.... and yes, you get a couple of misreads, but its not as bad as you make it sound.
7- Really don't know what are you referring to. Apps launch fast and multitasking work great (when the phone doesn't kill you app, though)
8- I don't do gaming on my phone, can't comment.
9- This is a mayor problem that should have been fix a long time ago. This is pretty much a killer point.
10- Except for some minor GPS issue indoors, my WIFI and phone receptions have been really great.
As I said in other threads, get the OnePlus 3T. Save yourself some headaches.
This phone is great in paper, and the hardware is excellent, but its pretty much dead. You are going to be really disappointed if you want to change ROMs or get community support.
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1- Not true, the sound is great with both speakers and headphones, although you may have problems with some apps and compatibility.
2- I use the phone a lot outside and never had any problems reading the screen
3- the camera is awful in low light, but its a really good camera in good light. REALLY good.
4- Yes, this is a con, but you get use to it.
5- False and true. The ui is not bloated and it works really good. I actually like it more than pure stock. But regarding bugs and dev support, its really, really bad.
6- It could be faster.... and yes, you get a couple of misreads, but its not as bad as you make it sound.
7- Really don't know what are you referring to. Apps launch fast and multitasking work great (when the phone doesn't kill you app, though)
8- I don't do gaming on my phone, can't comment.
9- This is a mayor problem that should have been fix a long time ago. This is pretty much a killer point.
10- Except for some minor GPS issue indoors, my WIFI and phone receptions have been really great.
As I said in other threads, get the OnePlus 3T. Save yourself some headaches.
This phone is great in paper, and the hardware is excellent, but its pretty much dead. You are going to be really disappointed if you want to change ROMs or get community support.
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I really appreciate your answer it's really helping , as I don't really care about updates or custom roms I think it's bearable since you said it's not bloated . I mean overall this smartphone is great !! But I'm afraid that what you said is only applicable for A2017U (US variant) and not the chinese variant A2017 becuz as I stated before I'm not from The US , so I need to import the device from China.
The only one I agree with is the unlit capacitive buttons. This phone is pretty solid otherwise.
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I have EU variant A2017G
1- Havent heard anything better yet on mobile phones (havent tried LG V10 or V20, which I believe should have better headphone output)
2- No problems
3- Photos depend on situations actually, daylight are quite good. Software needs to be fixed, manual mode is not that much manual
4- Got used.
5- I use Nova on top of MiFavor and it's almost like anything else.
6- It's fast, reads fingerprint in any direction also, sure sometimes it doesnt get it, but works fine.
7- Dont have OP3 or G5 to compare to.
8- Tried some games, and except for heating and huge battery drain I didnt notice anything. Heats up to 40C, when usually it sits at ~30C.
9- This. Waiting for fix.
10- GPS seems to work good, WiFi good. Signal - not really. on 2G it's great, on 4G - it's there, but drains battery as it's always very low, and it seems that is a problem with A2017G's only, not all, but there is a problem for some people who reported it.
Why *****ing about the capacitive buttons not lit? I mean, it's not like you didn't know before you bought the Axon, right? It would be like complaining about the size of the display...
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Hey Everyone,
So Guys , I'm about to buy the Axon 7 A2017 the Chinese variant (Since I'm outside the US) with 4gb RAM and 128gb of storage as an upgrade of my old LG G4, that's why I'm asking you guys to answer me honestly what was your personal experience with this device ? what are the bad sides that have made you frustrated or made you regretting making this purchase ??
I've heard many downsides but I cannot really believe them since many reputable reviewers on Youtube have said the opposite ??
Some Cons I heard :
1-The sound output from Headphones are not really great same for the dual front facing speakers.(Which is a bit shocking as the main promoted feature of this smartphone was the audio capabilities ).
2-The Screen is not clearly visible at direct sunlight
3-The Camera is awful , in other words a piece of crap (I dont really care about Photography or low light stills , but I also hate a smartphone that cannot take some sharp stills at daylight ,such as portait of myself for social media)
4-The capacitive buttons are not back lit , but I think I could get used to them.
5-The UI is buggy and bloated , the phone doesn't have any support from devs and the Company didn't fix many issues and bugs.
6-The fingerprint is not that fast or accurate (I've heard from a review that it works 60-70% of time)
7-Multi tasking and app launching is not good either comparing to smartphones that have the same cpu/gpu like Oneplus 3 , LG G5 ,..
8-Gaming experience is worse , as the 1440p leads to fps drops.
9-Notification are not received , bad sync
10-bad signal reception , bad GPS reception , Wi-fi range ??
Yes I know this is so long because after reading many opinions and seeing many reviews that's what came out !!
I still hear that all this can be fixed by an update but till now (after 6 months of releasing) nothing to be confirmed.
I'm a casual user , I don't root my phones , or install custom roms I can bear the Stock Rom if it's doing well , no bugs or lags.
Guys Please be honest , I know that almost every opinion will be biased , I don't want to buy a whortless smartphone because I also consider buying Oneplus 3 since my brother got it and it's an amazing smartphone blazing fast , takes some good images at good light , charging really so quick , everything is good with it except the battery drain when playing heavy games , the standby drain , and some heat issues.
The reasons that pushes me to consider buying Axon 7 over OP3 is it's great 1440p screen VR ready and the front facing speakers even if the Oneplus 3 have a good display despite it's FHD only and also a decent loudspeakers .
Yeahhh this thing is damnn long, but You know I don't wanna spend 400$ for useless features !!
Best Regards , Youssef
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I haven't had any issues whatsoever with this phone. I'm coming from A LG-G4 as well.
1) Sound is phenomenal! You'll have nothing to worry about.
2) It's not as bright as some other phones like the gs7 or IPhone 7, but it's better visibility than the G4 which is every you're coming from.
3) Camera is mediocre compared to today's phones, but it's similar to G4 performance. So it's slightly behind, but I don't take issue with it for such a good price. Daytime shots are really good, night time are meh, hdr makes them look pretty good but you have to stay really still. Manual mode is great if you know what you're doing.
4) Chinese variant uses on screen keys from my understanding. So the issue of non-backlit isn't relevant in your case.
5) UI is not stock Android, but waaaay closer & smoother than LG's UI. You'll have no issues with bloat coming from a G4 imo. Company has taken care of the major concerns like the notification bell on the lock screen and other things of the like. They was my biggest one, do I'm good now.
6) Fingerprint doesn't always get it perfect, but it's good like 85% of the time for me.
7) I haven't done any speed tests against any other phones, but from what I've seen on YouTube, it is slightly slower than competitors. For me, this isn't an issue cuz we're talking an incomprehensible real world difference. That's my opinion however. Its still faster than the G4.
8) No lag issues with gaming here. It on lagged on me once while I had Need for speed open in the background, a photo backup uploading my 32gb worth of photos going, while playing NBA live. It was only a slight stutter though. Other than that one incident, it's really smooth.
9) No issues with notifications or sync here. Could have been an early problem. I got the phone after they released the latest marshmallow build.
10) I get slightly worse reception than my G4. To me it was expected due to it being a metal phone vs a plastic one. I compared it to the G5 at a Tmo store and it wasn't to far off. Like 3dbm lower signal (higher number). Wifi is great though! Faster speeds, more stable signal, & prefers the 5ghz band when available. I always felt like the G4 sucked with wifi.
Overall, you cant go wrong with this purchase. One plus 3 is also a great option. I picked this phone over the OP3 because I'm a sucker for its design. I think it's sexier. I have been thrilled with my purchase so far and have no regrets. It's got all some quirks, but nothing that is a deal breaker for me. I also have the US variant so obviously this is my experience with that model and your mileage my vary if you are shooting for a Chinese unit. But there is my 2¢, hope it helps with your decision! Best of luck.
Thanks Guys I really appreciate your answers , I was about to switch to the OP3 , but I guess I may get The Axon 7 , cuz I'm a regular user and I'm not seeking for a fast responsive smartphone if this is doing the job well , I was also considering the Xiaomi Mi5s Plus 6gb ram version due to the better camera onfiguration and the latest snapdragon but Yeah , a 2k and Front facing speakers worth it !!
I've read cell reception is really bad and therefore I won't buy it.
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Cell reception and how it does hotspot compared to my previous phones are pretty bad. But everything else is spot on.. Love the phone. My wife has the oneplus 3 and keeps it stock.. Both phones are awfully similar. I would get the axon if you keep it stock and the oneplus if you plan on installing custom stuff.
From my limited experience with the device (about 1 week, coming from a Galaxy S7 edge).
1) Sounds has been great for me. Both the speakers and headphone sound are louder and clearer that the S7 edge.
2) Screen is really, really good. Sunlight visibility may be a smidge less than the S7 edge, but I like the way the colours pop a lot more on the A7.
3) Not a big photog to be honest. S7 edge had the better camera, for sure. The A7 camera seems pretty good in good lightning, and pretty bad in low lighting.
4) Definitely not backlit, but I honestly have no issue with them. Your muscle memory kicks in pretty much straight away.
5) Definitely not bloated (especially if you come from Touchwiz). Haven't noticed any large scale bugs yet, but need more time.
6) It could be better. I'd say it's accurate about 80% of the time. It seems to work best with a double tap for me.
7) Can't really compare to those devices, but it's about on par with the S7 edge.
8) Gaming has been as good or better than the S7 edge for me (mine is the Exynos variant though).
9) Hard to say since I turn off most notifications. SMS and Slack are my primaries, and they seem to work fine.
10) WiFi has been fine. Haven't tested GPS much. LTE is definitely weak though. I seem to hover around 2-3 bars most of the time. My house, which for whatever reason is a weak spot for my carrier, poses a particular problem.
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1-The sound output from Headphones are not really great same for the dual front facing speakers.(Which is a bit shocking as the main promoted feature of this smartphone was the audio capabilities ).
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No worries here. Best speakers hands down. Only phones that come close are HTC M8 and Alcatel One Touch. Headphone output has been great for me, but I think it works best with high end headphones.
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2-The Screen is not clearly visible at direct sunlight
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More visible than most thanks to color saturation and low reflectance. Maximum brightness of 360cd/m² is not the highest but thanks to low reflectance and high color saturation sunlight contrast ratio is amongst the best, just below OP3T and S7 but better than iPhone 7.
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3-The Camera is awful , in other words a piece of crap (I dont really care about Photography or low light stills , but I also hate a smartphone that cannot take some sharp stills at daylight ,such as portait of myself for social media)
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The camera has very good color accuracy and low light is actually pretty decent considering the small pixels size, you just need to be steady or it can become blurry. In bright daylight pictures are good but less sharp than on other 20MP devices (e.g. X play). Noise reduction is a bit too aggressive. I find the camera adequate but it is clearly the main weaker point of the Axon 7 (but I come from the x play which is exceptionally sharp and a very pleasing camera, so I may be a bit biased).
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4-The capacitive buttons are not back lit , but I think I could get used to them.
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I got used to them very quickly but in the dark I occasionally miss them.
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5-The UI is buggy and bloated , the phone doesn't have any support from devs and the Company didn't fix many issues and bugs.
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UI is great, only the launcher is not that good, but I replaced it with HTC blinkfeed launcher from xda, as I love their blinkfeed + theming and other aspects.
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6-The fingerprint is not that fast or accurate (I've heard from a review that it works 60-70% of time)
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People who have this issue did not map their finger correctly, that is not from all possible angles. If you make sure you map your finger from every possible angle and position it works perfectly. It took me a couple of tries to get it right but after that no issues. If you activate ZTE Locker daily wallpaper feature it may reduce recognition times, so may prevent successful recognition if the finger is removed too fast. For me it's no big deal but I know some people prefer to deactivate daily wallpapers to speed up recognition.
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7-Multi tasking and app launching is not good either comparing to smartphones that have the same cpu/gpu like Oneplus 3 , LG G5 ,..
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I think that may be true because of the use of a different file mapping system (I read something about this) however this may become default in Android nougat so may not be an issue going forward. I personally don't find app launching slow but other phones are slightly better.
I know that OP recently implemented this file system on their phone:
https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.xda...fferences-and-f2fs/amp/?client=ms-android-zte
I think this can be replicated on any phone where the ROM build support this. It was replicated on the OP3, it should be positive to get it to work on custom ROMs for the Axon 7 if not done already.
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8-Gaming experience is worse , as the 1440p leads to fps drops.
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Since the Axon 7's display has a pentile arrangement, it is not a true 1440p, this means the display actually has fewer pixels so the difference in performance is not that dramatic. That also explains why the Axon 7 can maintain good battery performance despite 1440p display.
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9-Notification are not received , bad sync
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Never had this issue. However you need to know that as a default the phone kills apps that are in the background and does not let apps interrupt deep sleep, so you need to set up exceptions for each app to allow them to share notifications.
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10-bad signal reception , bad GPS reception , Wi-fi range ??
Youssef
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I can't confirm this, I actually found this phone to have better reception than OP1, OP1 and Moto X play. My house has thick walls and in spots where I usually had poor reception I now have good reception, access to 4G, etc. I compared db values and they were better than on my other phones.
1- The sound output from headphones is perfectly fine, as good as you can expect from a phone really. The speakers didn't come close to living up to the hype and reviews if you ask me. The only problem with sound is that you'd have to use their stock music app for the Hi-Fi DAC to work, and that app is beyond trash. Super laggy, super buggy, with less than bare-bones functionality. That and the phone apparently only outputs 16 bit sound despite having a 32 bit DAC.
2- Almost no phone is visible in direct sunlight, this phone's brightness is absolutely fine and very bright. Only phones like the Galaxy S7 with super contrast modes can be more visible.
3- The Camera is indeed utterly useless in low light, but in good lighting conditions is okay-ish. It's not in the same league as expensive flagship phone cameras, this is where they really cut costs (aside from the software).
4- Yes, they are not back lit, and yes it's easy to get used to, but super annoying in the dark.
5- The software is abysmal, by far the worst I've ever used. The empty promises and months of not delivering make me completely regret my purchase. If I was within the return period I'd refund the phone and get a OP3T.
6- The fingerprint sensor is very fast and works 95%+ of the time for me. Anyone who's having issues likely didn't register their finger prints from all angles as the phone explicitly tells you to do in its instructions.
7- There's nothing about multi-tasking that has annoyed me yet aside from the occasional bug where a program just closes, but I don't do side by side comparisons so I don't know if it's outperformed by other SD820 phones.
8- I haven't gamed all that much on it, but its gaming performance should be pretty much the same as any other SD820/1440p phone, or slightly better than some of the earlier SD820 phones. I've ran emulated PSP games at 1440p with all settings maxed out without frame drops. If you want a 1080p phone for better performance buy a OP3T.
9- I've had no issues with notifications aside from the lock screen being garbage (even if you disable the stupid bell, which took them forever to update to allow).
10- It's an aluminium unibody phone, of course it's not going to have the same reception as a glass or plastic phone. In my experience it's only slightly worse and hasn't affected me much.
Most your concerns are nothing to worry about, it's the software/non-existent support that would make me turn around, run away, and never look back.
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Since the Axon 7's display has a pentile arrangement, it is not a true 1440p, this means the display actually has fewer pixels so the difference in performance is not that dramatic. That also explains why the Axon 7 can maintain good battery performance despite 1440p display. .
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No, this is actually a major problem with pentile. The resolution has to be rendered as normal, they have no magical trick that renders based on subpixels, it's per "pixel", so all these pseudo-1440p phones actually are rendering the software at 1440p if set to full resolution.
1) it's pretty clear, better than any other phone that I have used. Might need an extra amp if you plan to use 70ohm+ cans. Anything else is driven really well if you use DVC within poweramp.
2)no problems for me, but reports have said it is only around 320~ nits which is just not true as I compared it to a Nexus 5 and 5X, and it was brighter than both of them. Even if it was dimmer it should be just fine anyway. I'd compare the level to be a iPhone on 90%.
3)pretty good camera front and back, I don't take selfies as I hate myself amongst other things. Good in normal sunlight and medium to low light (bedroom). I have no idea what the standard is these day and I frankly don't care as I don't use it that much. Good enough to not have your friends laugh at you.
4)I don't like back lit anyway since I normally turn them off and if you can't turn them off they stand out too much at night since the screen is AMOLED.
5) No bugs, just different, I'd say it's the best custom UI that I've used. Close to stock with more compact icons etc. Like a half arsed attempt at making android 7 UI on 6 which is actually pretty good if you look at other manufacturers like Samsung.
6)If you wet your fingers and touch it, lightning fast. I find that if I have really dry hands (half an hour bike ride) I might have to slide it around a bit more but it works. Just do what the setup tells you and keep moving your finger around that scanner. More you cover the better. If you unlock while taking out your pocket you have at least 3 attempts at the scanner at least unless your are Sherrif QuickDraw. If you are using the Chinese version you can even set certain fingers to use certain apps such as camera, very useful as you can add up to 5 fingers.
7)True, but it's marginal. You probably have seen those benchmark videos where they open up 20 apps all in one row and time it. Not a big deal if you consider that the time for each app is like half a second longer each. Doesn't bother me. Been using android since gingerbread, I've experienced full minute waits before.
8)It's 1440p like you said, if you root it you can do some xposed hacks and run it at 1080p shouldn't be that big of a deal anyway. Most games run just fine. I play asphalt 8 (yeah bit old but oh well) just fine.
9)Some ****ty power settings that are enabled by default, just look around in the settings for a bit and you should be fine.
10)It's on par or better than my S3. No dropped calls or missed texts but then again not a lot of people contact me:crying:.
Like you said, if you are a casual user, it shouldn't bother you. 70% of the phones on the market will be just fine. Phone have reached a level where if you don't go for the big names or just buy smart you can use them for 2+ years easy. Sister still rocking Nexus 5 just fine. Battery is crapping out but it was never that good to start with.
If you like games and media, get the Axon. Best portable device I have brought for years. Provides solid audio when paired with good IEMs. Games like Asphalt come to life with the front speakers. Also for a phone this size, it's very easy to hold. If you look at the phone next to a 5" one it's wider by not even 1cm.
If your bro has a OP3 I personally won't get one as well just to be different, also might get confusing. BUT it has:
-better software support (you said you were a normal user so doesn't matter really)
-tad faster with better general battery life due to smaller screen, less GPU load etc.
-more accessories, it's a more popular phone.
-get the 3T instead if you plan on getting this.
-notification slider thing, if you go to college this will be handy as you don't have to pull your phone out.
The Axon also has a few nit picks that I like to pick:
-the notification light is RG not RGB, Not that anyone actually uses that light, I just use it to see if my battery is full lol.
-didn't notice this but some guy on reddit also said that because the headphone jack and the charger is on different sides it lead to some weird holding positions which is true.
-the right speaker (button side) is not in the middle but at the bottom right of the phone due to the charging port. Didn't notice this until I saw a tear down video now when I watch youtube I try to listen out for it. Most of the time I can't but it's there.
Google VR Is also SOON^TM, some guy also said it didn't fit due to the bands touching the hardware buttons. But the ZTE headset is pretty cheap $50~ I think but it's china only.
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No, this is actually a major problem with pentile. The resolution has to be rendered as normal, they have no magical trick that renders based on subpixels, it's per "pixel", so all these pseudo-1440p phones actually are rendering the software at 1440p if set to full resolution.
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I don't think it is accurate.
IPS 1440P screen has 11M lighting elements whereas
Pentile 1440p oled only has 7.3M lighting elements - only marginally more than the 6,220,800 Lighting Elements of 1080p IPS LCD display
I bought the phone just before B08 came out so I really wasn't troubled by the software at all, especially since I always install HTC Blinkfeed launcher from HTC, which replaces clock, weather and gallery.
I had no trouble using the HiFi DAC on other apps so far, which app didn't work for you?
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I don't think it is accurate.
IPS 1440P screen has 11M lighting elements whereas
Pentile 1440p oled only has 7.3M lighting elements - only marginally more than the 6,220,800 Lighting Elements of 1080p IPS LCD display
I bought the phone just before B08 came out so I really wasn't troubled by the software at all, especially since I always install HTC Blinkfeed launcher from HTC, which replaces clock, weather and gallery.
I had no trouble using the HiFi DAC on other apps so far, which app didn't work for you?
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It's correct that pentile has 1/3rd less subpixels than a standard RGB array. "1080p" on an AMOLED would have the same number of subpixels as a real 720p panel. But that wouldn't matter for software, it's still coded per pseudo-pixel as far as I know. Resolution output isn't coded by subpixels.
As for the DAC, every program I've tried sounds different than the stock music player. That includes PowerAmp's latest alpha (called a beta in the app store). The difference is most apparent in instruments, they sound noticeably sharper on the stock music player. I don't know for sure if this is some sort of equalizer or software tricks in the stock player that can't be disabled (the stock player has squat for options) or if it's indeed due to the DAC.
As for the the claims it outputs only 16 bit sound, I haven't ever found out exactly what that means. Whether it's just the stock music app that is limiting it, or if it's coded in the ROM to work like that.
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It's correct that pentile has 1/3rd less subpixels than a standard RGB array. "1080p" on an AMOLED would have the same number of subpixels as a real 720p panel. But that wouldn't matter for software, it's still coded per pseudo-pixel as far as I know. Resolution output isn't coded by subpixels.
As for the DAC, every program I've tried sounds different than the stock music player. That includes PowerAmp's latest alpha (called a beta in the app store). The difference is most apparent in instruments, they sound noticeably sharper on the stock music player. I don't know for sure if this is some sort of equalizer or software tricks in the stock player that can't be disabled (the stock player has squat for options) or if it's indeed due to the DAC.
As for the the claims it outputs only 16 bit sound, I haven't ever found out exactly what that means. Whether it's just the stock music app that is limiting it, or if it's coded in the ROM to work like that.
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Could you try MX Player?
For pentile displays there is a formula that calculates the subpixel intensities for each subpixel based on the desired "theoretical" pixels, so there are fewer operations being computed. Those operations are only marginally more complex than on an RGB display so the added complexity is offset by the much lower number of operations being conducted. From experience with calculation engines, it is usually more efficient to reduce the number of operations than to reduce the complexity of computations in terms of processing time.
Camera is the only major con for me.
The buttons on the bottom of the screen are ****ty too. Cant see them at night but i can deal with that.
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Could you try MX Player?
For pentile displays there is a formula that calculates the subpixel intensities for each subpixel based on the desired "theoretical" pixels, so there are fewer operations being computed. Those operations are only marginally more complex than on an RGB display so the added complexity is offset by the much lower number of operations being conducted. From experience with calculation engines, it is usually more efficient to reduce the number of operations than to reduce the complexity of computations in terms of processing time.
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Well I tried to use it and compare the same song side by side to PowerAmp and the stock music player and I couldn't do it because that software is rage inducing. It's not designed at all to be a music player, so even if it could use the Hi-Fi DAC I wouldn't use it.
And that's interesting, I've looked into it and never found any info or article about the resolution output being optimized for pentile displays. Would you happen to have a link so I can read more about it?
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Well I tried to use it and compare the same song side by side to PowerAmp and the stock music player and I couldn't do it because that software is rage inducing. It's not designed at all to be a music player, so even if it could use the Hi-Fi DAC I wouldn't use it.
And that's interesting, I've looked into it and never found any info or article about the resolution output being optimized for pentile displays. Would you happen to have a link so I can read more about it?
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Have you tried MX player? Did you find a difference? What is your go-to app? Which software version do you use? Have you made sure the dolby module was activated when comparing? It could be some apps somehow switch it off and you have to manually switch it on again.
If you don't compute values for each subpixel you have no means of producing the right colors on each theoretical pixel, this is true for both RGB and Pentile OLED. From a colorimetry standpoint there is no other way to control intensity and saturations, you have to drive each subpixel individuallly.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Huawei P20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Having trouble with autofocus on the P20 pro in videos. It seems to effectively render the zoom unuseable. Am I doing something wrong? Do I Have a faulty handset?
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Having trouble with autofocus on the P20 pro in videos. It seems to effectively render the zoom unuseable. Am I doing something wrong? Do I Have a faulty handset?
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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confirmed. that's scandalous!
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confirmed. that's scandalous!
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On the one hand as terrible as it is, and don't get me wrong, it really is!
I'm glad that:
1) I've not gone mad
2) I'm not the only one
Clearly it's a software change that has caused the issue, so I hope they can resolve it. I think I'm going to look to find a means of sending this feedback.
Working in the software field myself, and prior to that QA and customer facing fields, I'm well aware that these things can happen. It's just such a shame that when the one thing the phone is touted for seems to be suffering massively
If anyone can post their thoughts, or even workarounds should they find them it'd be massively appreciated.
I have S8 and I would like to sell it and buy P20 Pro. Please can you tell me which one is better for video? I know that P20 Pro in 4K dont have stabilization, but I have DJi Osmo Mobile 2. I habe sometimes problem with S8, when you recording people it start to be so much smooth. But everything is very good. But now I nees better.
I need to know which one is better? Focus, detail, shadows and etc...
Thx a lot
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I have S8 and I would like to sell it and buy P20 Pro. Please can you tell me which one is better for video? I know that P20 Pro in 4K dont have stabilization, but I have DJi Osmo Mobile 2. I habe sometimes problem with S8, when you recording people it start to be so much smooth. But everything is very good. But now I nees better.
I need to know which one is better? Focus, detail, shadows and etc...
Thx a lot
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Sorry to say I can't help you on this one!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 4, so anything I would say probably isn't worth the time to read
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Sorry to say I can't help you on this one!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 4, so anything I would say probably isn't worth the time to read
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Thx a lot man i hope someone will help me soon
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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Probably not..
But maybe a bad batch?
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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Hmm ok that's interesting...i mean bad batch could be explained if you had the issues on the older firmware. But these issues only appeared when i was updated to the new firmware on my end.
I've not heard back from them yet, might chase again because again hardware defect I'd expect to manifest itself in other shooting modes not just a specific case x8 and x32
5nak3 said:
Hmm ok that's interesting...i mean bad batch could be explained if you had the issues on the older firmware. But these issues only appeared when i was updated to the new firmware on my end.
I've not heard back from them yet, might chase again because again hardware defect I'd expect to manifest itself in other shooting modes not just a specific case x8 and x32
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Have you tried a hardreset? Any improvement?
Regarding the bad batch possibility, slow-mo in x4 should be affected also, shouldn't it?
Does anyone know if Huawei plans on putting out an update that adds stabilization to 4k video? Kind of like what OnePlus did with the OP5?
max.barrett said:
Have you tried a hardreset? Any improvement?
Regarding the bad batch possibility, slow-mo in x4 should be affected also, shouldn't it?
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I've not had a chance to hard reset I'm afraid.
I honestly believe batch issues, i.e. hardware, would be affected in other camera modes and all slowmo speeds. The camera is fine for everything but two settings in slowmo video, that to me sounds more like a firmware bug than anything.
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I've not had a chance to hard reset I'm afraid.
I honestly believe batch issues, i.e. hardware, would be affected in other camera modes and all slowmo speeds. The camera is fine for everything but two settings in slowmo video, that to me sounds more like a firmware bug than anything.
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The Slo-Mo is awful, like most phones - get over it.
Did P20 Pro have 240fps at 1080?
no it has last year flagship specs for video and limited stabilization options
Most worse smartphone on video section and the selfie shooter is a joke i regret exchanging it for the s9 plus, huge mistake !! Thnksfully tye battery life is awesome pictures also
bouyhy01 said:
Most worse smartphone on video section and the selfie shooter is a joke i regret exchanging it for the s9 plus, huge mistake !! Thnksfully tye battery life is awesome pictures also
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Hi bouyhy,
Why is very bad video? I know that 4K don't have stabilization. Is there any other bad thing?
I have S8 and im planning to sell it an buy P20 Pro. I just try P20 Pro in store, for a shot time and I like vide, video is much more sharpness then S8 what is better for me. But how I say I try It for very short time. Please can you tell me what was other bad things in video? For stabilization I have DJi Osmo Mobile, I think that will help me a lot.
I had the s8 for almost a year and sell for tge s9 plus and i guarantee you that the s8 is way way better than this p20 pro on video shooting, stabilization sharpness quality dynamic range everything, i own the p20 pro for about 4 weeks now and tried everything the video shooting is too bad, i prefer galaxy s6 or even s5 videos, but if huawe8 cares about his customers they xill push updraes o fux that with selfie shooter too, but for now they did nothing. Personally if you care about videos keep your s8 or go for the pixel 2 or wait for htc u12