Hi,
I'm using a rom based on OOS (xXx). I'd like to test F2FS for my system partition, is this possible with OOS? Each time I flash a ROM, system is coming back to EXT4.
Thanks a lot.
F2fs on system is not supported with oos ROMs I believe. I'm not sure about los based roms
furious.builder said:
system is coming back to EXT4
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...and it's doing the right thing :good:
Hitman478™ said:
...and it's doing the right thing :good:
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It is indeed. Tried F2FS to many times and it's always causing issues after a few months. EXT4 is rock solid and the way to go
maikvitesse said:
It is indeed. Tried F2FS to many times and it's always causing issues after a few months. EXT4 is rock solid and the way to go
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i can absolutely confirm this.. I came from a bad experience with f2fs as for now, ext4 is 10 way the best
Op3t has f2fs and it gave me no problems. I don't understand why they dropped it with the 5! Using f2fs on system partition is quite useless, no files are being written to that partition, ext4 is better in this case
I try use F2FS partition on my OnePlus 3T and everything smooth, no issue.
But when i use on OnePlus 5, got some little problem, such like cannot choose picture to upload on Instagram.
Honestly F2FS faster than EXT4 but F2FS still buggy, unstable i think and EXT4 stable hahaha
Wonder why on 3T, OnePlus using F2FS and on 5 using EXT4 -_-
There is still hope for f2fs. As arter97 from aospa team has a possible fix for the f2fs performance issues we might see later this year. But as for now its recommended to use ext4 on all partitions as it is more stable and doesnt get laggy after long usage.
Thanks a lot for your answers! I'm on f2fs only on data, I'll see if I have any trouble due to instability. For now I'm really happy w/ it 784.62 MB/s and 220.08 MB/s for reading and writing speed
furious.builder said:
Thanks a lot for your answers! I'm on f2fs only on data, I'll see if I have any trouble due to instability. For now I'm really happy w/ it 784.62 MB/s and 220.08 MB/s for reading and writing speed
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Want to try the last beta with f2fs and just want to know if it still enough stable and fonctional ? And if I switch only for data or other partition ? I have see somewhere that with Oreo f2fs had a better support and I don't know if I need a special kernel or no ?
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what roms//kernels have this? my moto g was blazing fast with this, how does the nexus get it? seen some custom kernels for the nexus saying they support it?
idonttakedrugs said:
what roms//kernels have this? my moto g was blazing fast with this, how does the nexus get it? seen some custom kernels for the nexus saying they support it?
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f2fs : D http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/orig-development/recovery-rom-kernel-f2fs-05-04-14-t2706825
do u want F2FS or All-F2FS .... ???
Be careful. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51765053
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Sorry?
Ravzz_Sv said:
do u want F2FS or All-F2FS .... ???
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I don't know what you mean? haha
jd1639 said:
Be careful. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51765053
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ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, this has put me off highly! i wonder what happened!
idonttakedrugs said:
ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, this has put me off highly! i wonder what happened!
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I don't know but f2fs reformats a partition and it seems he's having problems getting it formatted correctly again.
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whaat
jd1639 said:
I don't know but f2fs reformats a partition and it seems he's having problems getting it formatted correctly again.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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madness haha
idonttakedrugs said:
I don't know what you mean? haha
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see i ll try to explain ... when we r talking abt F2FS that needs only the kernel support . also under F2FS only the /data partition is formatted as F2FS ( atleast for mirage and slim kernel ) .... for using the hellsdoctor r29 u need to format both /cache and /data as F2FS ...of course its done using a special recovery ..( i m assuming u know abt that ) ...
BUT when it comes to All-F2FS , the /system ,/ cache and /data all three are to be formatted under F2FS (thats why called ALL-F2FS) .. it also needs a special twrp recovery other than f2fs one ....
for the time being all-f2fs is quite disadvantageous because u ll lose rom support ... unlike f2fs ,, ALL-F2FS needs both rom and kernel support ... and currently only slimkat has one all-f2fs supporting rom .... so better stick with just F2FS ...
p.s. i am myself running Purity ROM + hellsdoctor r29+F2FS
Ravzz_Sv said:
see i ll try to explain ... when we r talking abt F2FS that needs only the kernel support . also under F2FS only the /data partition is formatted as F2FS ( atleast for mirage and slim kernel ) .... for using the hellsdoctor r29 u need to format both /cache and /data as F2FS ...of course its done using a special recovery ..( i m assuming u know abt that ) ...
BUT when it comes to All-F2FS , the /system ,/ cache and /data all three are to be formatted under F2FS (thats why called ALL-F2FS) .. it also needs a special twrp recovery other than f2fs one ....
for the time being all-f2fs is quite disadvantageous because u ll lose rom support ... unlike f2fs ,, ALL-F2FS needs both rom and kernel support ... and currently only slimkat has one all-f2fs supporting rom .... so better stick with just F2FS ...
p.s. i am myself running Purity ROM + hellsdoctor r29+F2FS
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okay thankyou, i understand, well explained. are you seeing a speed difference with that file type? :cyclops:
idonttakedrugs said:
okay thankyou, i understand, well explained. are you seeing a speed difference with that file type? :cyclops:
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Minor bt noticeable..... better than ext4
Ravzz_Sv said:
Minor bt noticeable..... better than ext4
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hmmmm
Hello!
So CM11 Nightlies have F2FS support. TWRP 2.8.0.1 supposedly (I cant get it to work) has support for it as well. I heard that TWRP requires an F2FS kernel in order for the option to format to F2FS to appear.
Now, Are there any F2FS kernels available for AOSP ROMs? Is there a way to change filesystems to F2FS right now?
Thanks for any help!
RevolcFael4 said:
Hello!
So CM11 Nightlies have F2FS support. TWRP 2.8.0.1 supposedly (I cant get it to work) has support for it as well. I heard that TWRP requires an F2FS kernel in order for the option to format to F2FS to appear.
Now, Are there any F2FS kernels available for AOSP ROMs? Is there a way to change filesystems to F2FS right now?
Thanks for any help!
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Not sure if its available for the g2, but even if it was i think itd a bit too risky for you to transform into it, it could lead into bad bricking. you wouldnt notice a speed difference neither! slower phones like the MOTO G, NEXUS 4, GALAXY NEXUS all go faster, but for a device already so fast, you wont tell a thing.
but each to their own, try it if you really want!
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Not sure if its available for the g2, but even if it was i think itd a bit too risky for you to transform into it, it could lead into bad bricking. you wouldnt notice a speed difference neither! slower phones like the MOTO G, NEXUS 4, GALAXY NEXUS all go faster, but for a device already so fast, you wont tell a thing.
but each to their own, try it if you really want!
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Oh.
I already moved everything off my phone.
Anyways, CM!1 nightlies dont boot after the F2FS compatability. Is there anything I can do to make it work?
I am proud to present benchmark competition between ext4 and f2fs file systems on Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini LTE (GT-I9195).
Base for this Benchmark
ROM: AICP - 11.0 - MM 6.0.1_r3 | OFFICIAL NIGHTLIES Build : aicp_serranoltexx_mm-11.0-NIGHTLY-20160202.zip
Gapps: No
Recovery: TWRP 2.8.7.0
f2fs
I was formatting 2 partitions as below to f2fs.(CM Marshmallow-Builds doesn´t support other partitions at the moment,waiting for a MM-Kernel )
/cache
/data
I was using 4 benchmark apps ( CF-Bench,RL Bench,Androbench,AnTuTu) to test performance.
CF-Bench
CF-Bench is an overall benchmark by Chainfire which measure everything except graphics.
RL Bench
RL Bench is an SQLite benchmark, it only tests database read/writes with various SQL commands in various amounts.
Androbench
Androbench is supposedly an all-around I/O benchmark.
AnTuTu
No need for an introduction, it's probably the most popular benchmark these days.
THX to somboons for his inspirating LG G2 Benchmark-Thread
PS. please excuse me, if my english not the best^^
@ssceddie
So, which one is better? Which screenshots concerns ext4 and which one concerns f2fs?
Omg,on mobiles devices you cant see the file-names,right? On Windows you can See the file-names. But I will edit the pics these days.....damn^^
On windows7 I can save each one as attachment.php.png
Maybe can you tell us according to the time which file system did u use at 19:46 and 21:10? Thanks for the comparison it was a really good idea. Im courious about how much is the difference with gapps
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Maybe can you tell us according to the time which file system did u use at 19:46 and 21:10? Thanks for the comparison it was a really good idea. Im courious about how much is the difference with gapps
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Ah gold idea, I'd made the test with ext4,first. But I'll edit the screens later.
Did you think the difference is signifcant with gapps? I dont think so....
@piskor @wolverinemaister
Edit: Now, on the left side on top of the screens you can see what is ext4 and f2fs
ssceddie said:
Ah gold idea, I'd made the test with ext4,first. But I'll edit the screens later.
Did you think the difference is signifcant with gapps? I dont think so....
@piskor @wolverinemaister
Edit: Now, on the left side on top of the screens you can see what is ext4 and f2fs
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Never been a great fan of F2FS...
But;
Option is the option... So some users is asking for it... That's why I'm tryin to provide it...
No big difference IMHO.
semdoc said:
Never been a great fan of F2FS...
But;
Option is the option... So some users is asking for it... That's why I'm tryin to provide it...
No big difference IMHO.
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i agree im sticking with what i trust.
semdoc said:
No big difference IMHO.
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Yes my opinion,too. But it were interesting to know, if the difference bigger if /system could be format to f2fs too , sometime if that possible^^
ssceddie said:
Yes my opinion,too. But it were interesting to know, if the difference bigger if /system could be format to f2fs too , sometime if that possible^^
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According to @bon_bon
Formating /system to f2fs is going to make it SLOW, i never tried to format it but it's better to keep /system to ext4
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As we know f2fs is the new optimized filesystem with 12 new patch ported by sources
it could improve performance by 2x as arter97 said.... But the problem is that there isnt a recovery with f2fs option
anyone can create one?
Watch the speed video of one plus 3 with ext4 and f2fs when opening asphalt 8 !!
Alessandro999 said:
As we know f2fs is the new optimized filesystem with 12 new patch ported by sources
it could improve performance by 2x as arter97 said.... But the problem is that there isnt a recovery with f2fs option
anyone can create one?
Watch the speed video of one plus 3 with ext4 and f2fs when opening asphalt 8 !!
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The newest version of the official TWRP has the f2fs option, but as far as I know, all ROMs are still require/recommend ext4.
Alessandro999 said:
As we know f2fs is the new optimized filesystem with 12 new patch ported by sources
it could improve performance by 2x as arter97 said.... But the problem is that there isnt a recovery with f2fs option
anyone can create one?
Watch the speed video of one plus 3 with ext4 and f2fs when opening asphalt 8 !!
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@arter97 also said this
https://twitter.com/arter97/status/884846437556604928
david19au said:
@arter97 also said this
https://twitter.com/arter97/status/884846437556604928
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yes its true but i have used f2fs for long time and i never had a performance issue
i can say that performance increase with f2fs , especcially when opening games!
so i only want the OPTION TO SWITCH YO F2FS, nothing more!
anyone is responsible for everything that do on our phone!
I only had troubles with f2fs. yes the performance is nice, but don't be surprised when your system doesn't boot up anymore after a few months (happened to me twice, once on vacation without access to a laptop ) never happend with ext4. can be coincidence but I don't trust f2fs anymore
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I only had troubles with f2fs. yes the performance is nice, but don't be surprised when your system doesn't boot up anymore after a few months (happened to me twice, once on vacation without access to a laptop ) never happend with ext4. can be coincidence but I don't trust f2fs anymore
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This exactly happened to me too while I was with F2FS on my older Galaxy S4, and also exactly while I was on vacation, F2FS can't be trusted anymore to either. But I got to admit, the performance boost is nice
anyone can create a resurrection remix or lineage os with f2fs data and cache support ? yes the phone is fast but i would try with f2fs please
i know advantages and disadvantages and i want to try f2fs
There's very little difference in terms of speed. I didn't see any improvement on my S4. The OnePlus is already fast, I doubt changing to f2fs will make it noticeably faster.
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anyone can create a resurrection remix or lineage os with f2fs data and cache support ? yes the phone is fast but i would try with f2fs please
i know advantages and disadvantages and i want to try f2fs
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As the other chap has said it's already rapid, there is nothing I've thrown at this phone which it can't deal with.
Maybe if something comes out which it can't deal with it'll be done but for now I can't see a demand for it.
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Alessandro999 said:
anyone can create a resurrection remix or lineage os with f2fs data and cache support ? yes the phone is fast but i would try with f2fs please
i know advantages and disadvantages and i want to try f2fs
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Trust me, ext4 is more better than f2fs, you aren't losing nothing:good: