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Is it just me or the placement of the home button really annoying? Logically it should be centered of the space below the screen and not so close to the bottom. I found this odd when I saw this during the announcement but didn't realise it will end up being ergonomically wrong.
I've developed wrist pains that I never had with the sgs2 due to the placement and the hardness of the home button. As I have to consciously reach for the home button lower than need to.
And to make matters worse the time I gotta hold it down for multitasking is a bit longer than needed in my opinion.
Except for this phone is perfect for me!
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I also am really irritated by the buttons and the placing of them.
They are far to far down, so I constantly touch them accidentally. As you say they should be nicely placed half way between the screen and the bottom of the phone.
And to be fair I would have preferred a capacitive button over that huge home button.
Ok, so I've only had the phone for 9 days now so maybe with a bit more time i will get used to this disfunctional design.
I would rather it a bit higher, always feels like I am on the verge of dropping it when using the phone one-handed, and I have big hands!
Not only you amigo!
I think the home button should be bigger - like it was on the S1.
Also the colour of it on "blue" is...more like purple.
Im fine with the home button. What i dont like is the back button on the right and not the left.
incubus26jc said:
Im fine with the home button. What i dont like is the back button on the right and not the left.
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Agree particular if you come from SGS1/2 I keep hitting cancel .
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JJEgan said:
Agree particular if you come from SGS1/2 I keep hitting cancel .
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The back and menu buttons are in the same place they were on the SGS1 & 2.
Baldilocks said:
The back and menu buttons are in the same place they were on the SGS1 & 2.
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Baldilocks said:
The back and menu buttons are in the same place they were on the SGS1 & 2.
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Exactly what i was going to say...made be wonder myself lol
TotallydubbedHD said:
Exactly what i was going to say...made be wonder myself lol
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Maybe he was looking in a mirror as he posted??
Baldilocks said:
Maybe he was looking in a mirror as he posted??
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Think he is talking about those pop ups " cancel - ok" and that switched places in ics :s that's the only explanation I can think of
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Think he is talking about those pop ups " cancel - ok" and that switched places in ics :s that's the only explanation I can think of
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Lmao!
You never know....lol
I can agree to some extent about malplaced buttons, I'd want them right up below the screen as before I got my soft-shell for the phone kept touching the back button with the palm of my hand while holding it. What I really like that I didn't like the least with the S2 is the rounded shape, it's so much nicer to hold than the S2. With CM9 it also became so much friendlier in terms of tweaks and hax. Me like!
My only complaint is the button placement should be higher. Yes it is a little long holding the home button for the multitask menu but it is not a problem for me
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I think the button looks good where it is
No problems
Looks good, but doesn't feel good when reaching for. Especially if you have a case
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The home button should've been bigger or placed a little bit shifted upwards, i always loved the site of the back button, as it's all the time used and since i use my right hand it's perfect for me.
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The only thing I hate about the home button is that it could be a bit bigger
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I'm used to it now.
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Hey guys,
My power button seems to be pushed in...
it's not that pronounced..
Coming from an S2, the buttons seem/feel really pushed in. i can barely feel it.
I've looked at videos and high quality pictures of S4 on review sites, and they seem to be more popped out.
My power button looks/feels strangely pushed in.
Is this a defective unit?
seems like volume buttons are a bit under-pronounced..
how about you guys?
Post some images so we can compare them to our S4's
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Post some images so we can compare them to our S4's
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EDIT: it just feels really pushed in.. like when I press it, i don't feel it going in a lot. Maybe this is how they designed it?
The "click" sound is lower in volume and not as "Crisp" in feeling. (relative to my S2)
Your power button does look a little more recessed than mine...
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Your power button does look a little more recessed than mine...
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thanks for that information!
hmm what do you think I can do about it?
exchange for a new one?
would i be able to do that in the corporate store even though I got it off of online preordering?
would they accept this as a reason for exchange?
I have 14 days =(
Thanks in advance for your help!
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EDIT: it just feels really pushed in.. like when I press it, i don't feel it going in a lot. Maybe this is how they designed it?
The "click" sound is lower in volume and not as "Crisp" in feeling. (relative to my S2)
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Mine button looks like that too
jem417 said:
Mine button looks like that too
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how does it feel?
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how does it feel?
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Compared to my GS2 Skyrocket if feels a lot softer. My GS4 doesn't have the same resistance and travel distance as my Skyrocket but the SRs button was almost flush with the device so to me the GS4 button feels more pronounced.
My s3 was like that. I opened up the phone, cut and placed a tiny piece of scotch tape behind the button to make it stick out a tiny bit more. Worked good, but when I did this the phone wasnt brand new so its your call. Maybe exchange it at the store?
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Compared to my GS2 Skyrocket if feels a lot softer. My GS4 doesn't have the same resistance and travel distance as my Skyrocket but the SRs button was almost flush with the device so to me the GS4 button feels more pronounced.
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hmm yea those are the words i was looking for "resistance" and travel distance..
thanks for the reply!
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My s3 was like that. I opened up the phone, cut and placed a tiny piece of scotch tape behind the button to make it stick out a tiny bit more. Worked good, but when I did this the phone wasnt brand new so its your call. Maybe exchange it at the store?
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hmm yeah i need to be 100% sure that mine is a defect before trying to exchange it.
I can exchange it for a new phone at the AT&T store right?
would this be a valid reason? I'm worried that they won't let me..
well, I would certainly try while the phone is new. Tell them your are concerned that if its pushed in this much now, that after using the phone for a year ( or however long) that your worried it will be pushed in even more. Worst can happen is they say no. At least you can compare it to another phone anyhow. I will say mine has been like that since I bought it and it has not affected the operation other than having a case over it, then you have to really push the button hard to get it to work through the case, but that was on a certain case, and doesnt seem to be as hard on my other case.
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well, I would certainly try while the phone is new. Tell them your are concerned that if its pushed in this much now, that after using the phone for a year ( or however long) that your worried it will be pushed in even more. Worst can happen is they say no. At least you can compare it to another phone anyhow. I will say mine has been like that since I bought it and it has not affected the operation other than having a case over it, then you have to really push the button hard to get it to work through the case, but that was on a certain case, and doesnt seem to be as hard on my other case.
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Okay, I will try to go exchange it!
Thanks for your help =)
You're fine, pretty sure they're all like that mine is too. Maybe they did it to have it "blend" in more so it all looks like 1 solid unit
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wttisme said:
My power and volume buttons are barely visible while looking from above. I don't notice anything hard to push. Seems fairly normal to me. You shouldn't have any issues returning to a corporate store but I think the release date isn't until the 27th in stores.
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Its ok if I press it with my fingernails, but if I try to press it with my thumb, its really hard...
Plus my wifi keeps on disconnecting and reconnecting... so annoying =(
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jhong91 said:
Its ok if I press it with my fingernails, but if I try to press it with my thumb, its really hard...
Plus my wifi keeps on disconnecting and reconnecting... so annoying =(
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For the wifi connect and disconnect, could it be the power saving thing that was on the S3? From the dialer try *#0011#, then press the menu softkey and select wifi, then turn off the power save mode. I know this would get rid of the constant connect/reconnect on the S 3. Not sure it works on the S 4.
It happened to me too when i switched my skyrocket to the S3. The S3 power button its kinda small and hidden so maybe just need to get a long with it :thumbup:
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For the wifi connect and disconnect, could it be the power saving thing that was on the S3? From the dialer try *#0011#, then press the menu softkey and select wifi, then turn off the power save mode. I know this would get rid of the constant connect/reconnect on the S 3. Not sure it works on the S 4.
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I fixed the problem!
it turns out that it was constantly trying to connect to ATT Hotspot network. I went into advanced setting and disabled that thing, and no more problems since! =)
Maesedroid said:
It happened to me too when i switched my skyrocket to the S3. The S3 power button its kinda small and hidden so maybe just need to get a long with it :thumbup:
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Ok i guess i'll have to deal with it
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Picked up my 32 GS4 yesterday and now I am noticing that the home button is sunk in. It's completely flush with the screen. Doesn't stick out at all. It works completely fine, but makes a really audible clicking noise. Obviously Samsung doesn't manufacture these all the same. I am worried if it will get worse in time. A google search brought many results with the GS3's home button. Apparently some think its normal, some don't. I am really fussy when it comes to QC on flagship phones.
Just wondering if anyone else has a sunk in home button?
its normal.
I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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Yup. Flush. You're good.
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It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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Yeah. I have noticed a couple Note 2's home buttons being flat, while others were slightly raised. I don't know if its considered not normal, as it functions just fine.
I do not like the loud audible click the button makes. I might try to swap it towards the end of my 14 days.
EDIT: Ok, looking at it really closely, its not completely flat. Maybe a tad lower than the other phones. I don't know, I would hate to return a phone because I'm too OCD.
Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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The home button functions perfectly fine. Since it doesn't stick out, the tactile feedback isn't that great. May take it to AT&T this week. Haven't decided. I am actually more concerned about my power button. Seems very hard to push and mushy, like its not sticking out as much as it should.
My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?
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Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?
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Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.
MattMJB0188 said:
Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.
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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.
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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.
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Then exchange it. When they bring your new phone out thoroughly examine it first.
I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.
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I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.
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Yeah I know what you mean. And I've been that guy many times. Its just when signing a 2yr contract and paying $200+ dollars, one has to be persistent. They all hate me at my local AT&T store but I pay their paychecks.
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I looked at 3 S4s before I picked one that I was satisfied with before I left the store. Some people don't care, but when paying this much for a phone I feel like it should be perfect.
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And AT&T kept bringing out S4's and let you have your pick? Must have been nice. My local AT&T store would never do that.
Neither would mine. Best Buy MIGHT, but it's not very nice to make them keep opening boxes of new products. Not sure if they can still sell them as such afterward.
The unlock button does seem more sunken than it should be. Might swing by the ATT store in a day or two just to check out their display...If it's that bad, i'll bring it back to best buy and see if they're willing to do another exchange . I only have 4 days left on my 15 day window unfortunately.
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DAMN! I wish I didint see this thread because my OCD just kicked in...
Mine is raised about 1mm up. On my note II its about 2mm.
It feels normal to me...
With the Invisheild HD its flush with that....
artvandalay22222 said:
I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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I'm also coming from a gs2, and while the lack of a capacitive home button and search button is a bit weird, if you long press the menu button it pulls up search. I know it isn't exactly what you want, but it's close.
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Has anyone had their power button acting up? Mine needs to be pressed in real hard to get it to respond
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Had anyone had their power button acting up? Mine needs to be pressed in real hard to get it to respond
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No I never faced such issue..
This is common in 303K and 305K version phones.. Just chill not a big issue.
If you are rooted you can use smart screen on to wake/off the device with a tap/slide.
Worth a read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344462
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Worth a read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344462
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I have gone through that particular thread before. Although I have always used LMT to lock, and turn the screen off, but I am not very comfortable with apps like s2w. Anyway, I am thinking more along the lines of a hardware fix. Has anyone gotten theirs done?
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No I never faced such issue..
This is common in 303K and 305K version phones.. Just chill not a big issue.
If you are rooted you can use smart screen on to wake/off the device with a tap/slide.
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Huh, since when is a non functioning power button 'not a big issue'?
Don't tell me this is the nexus one thing all over again :/
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Unfortunately, it is not a high quality switch. But it is easily replaceable.
I came from a Pixel 3xl. This is my first Samsung device. Is anyone else taking inadvertent screen shots all the time? I am do to where the power button is located vs the vol down button.
You have many alternatives dude
You can enable screenshot gesture
You can use application one hand operation+ by Samsung and assign taking a screen shoot with certain gesture
Also you can assign screen off with certain gesture to avoid using the power button
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I came from a Pixel 3xl. This is my first Samsung device. Is anyone else taking inadvertent screen shots all the time? I am do to where the power button is located vs the vol down button.
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Hi...You have an excellent edge device ... why not use it ... with all the above mentioned in posts you also have the "Softkey Edge" that works perfectly ....View attachment 4740302
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I know that - but can you turn off screen capture power button/vol down button? I do not see anywhere to do that, DUDE!
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I know that - but can you turn off screen capture power button/vol down button? I do not see anywhere to do that, DUDE!
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Hmm....I think it can not ... mby with the root ..... but why do you want to do this,DUDE ?!
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Does the word Dude upset anyone ?
My native language is Arabic so I don't know if this word have any bad meaning or something that can upset anyone
The guy originally complained that he was taking accidental screen shots, and saying its maybe because the power button is too high up and aligned with the volume key. I don't understand how giving him alternative methods to obtain a screenshot solves hes problem [emoji848]
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The guy originally complained that he was taking accidental screen shots, and saying its maybe because the power button is too high up and aligned with the volume key. I don't understand how giving him alternative methods to obtain a screenshot solves hes problem [emoji848]
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Sorry we thought that he needed better ways to take screenshots I did not concentrate well
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Sorry we thought that he needed better ways to take screenshots I did not concentrate well
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Lol, I found it kind of funny to be honest. It's easy to make that mistake [emoji846]
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This whole thread is hella stupid. You knew where the power button was before you ever bought the phone. People complain about the dumbest s h i t.....
The button is indeed too high and if you try to press it while the phone is on a desk there's a high chance you will press the volume up button and screenshot your lock screen, annoying issue that shouldn't exist in the next models.
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This whole thread is hella stupid. You knew where the power button was before you ever bought the phone. People complain about the dumbest s h i t.....
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Would you buy a product and silently accept its inconvenience , not buy it because of its silly problems, or just share the complaint hoping it serves a purpose?
Without the third option there won't be an improvement, this kind of drama about minor inconveniences is useful to raise awareness and hope for changes or solutions(like remapping screenshots), there's a ton of hella stupid threads here but this is not one of them.
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The button is indeed too high and if you try to press it while the phone is on a desk there's a high chance you will press the volume up button and screenshot your lock screen, annoying issue that shouldn't exist in the next models.
Would you buy a product and silently accept its inconvenience , not buy it because of its silly problems, or just share the complaint hoping it serves a purpose?
Without the third option there won't be an improvement, this kind of drama about minor inconveniences is useful to raise awareness and hope for changes or solutions(like remapping screenshots), there's a ton of hella stupid threads here but this is not one of them.
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I literally have no issue at all, with where the power button is. Maybe because I have big hands. But if I did have a problem with it, chances are I wouldn't have bought it myself. But even if I did have an issue with it and bought it, it's pointless to complain about it because it's a problem that can't be fixed. True, Samsung might listen in consideration for the next model, but then again maybe not, because not everybody using this phone has lil baby hands either. So in essence, complaining about the power button placement, ESPECIALLY since you knew where the buttons were before you bought it is just whining, nothing more. It's not a "problem" people didn't know about before buying it like the VOIP bugs that were fixed in the recent update.
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I literally have no issue at all, with where the power button is. Maybe because I have big hands. But if I did have a problem with it, chances are I wouldn't have bought it myself. But even if I did have an issue with it and bought it, it's pointless to complain about it because it's a problem that can't be fixed. True, Samsung might listen in consideration for the next model, but then again maybe not, because not everybody using this phone has lil baby hands either. So in essence, complaining about the power button placement, ESPECIALLY since you knew where the buttons were before you bought it is just whining, nothing more. It's not a "problem" people didn't know about before buying it like the VOIP bugs that were fixed in the recent update.
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The bigger your hands are the harder it is for you to avoid the volume buttons when taking a pressure point to press the power button, it's not about having baby hands.
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The bigger your hands are the harder it is for you to avoid the volume buttons when taking a pressure point to press the power button, it's not about having baby hands.
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No dude... Just... No. Like I said I have big hands and literally have no problems with ANY of the phone buttons. I've never accidentally taken a screenshot pressing the power button. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Especially since in my opinion this power button placement "problem" isn't even a problem, and it's one that won't ever be resolved (for this model).
The guy wasn't even complaining, he was asking if anyone else was having the problem of taking accidental screen shots. And it's not something your going to think of until you buy the phone and then it starts happening. Your input about the thread being "dumb" got even "dumber" once you replied.
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The guy wasn't even complaining, he was asking if anyone else was having the problem of taking accidental screen shots. And it's not something your going to think of until you buy the phone and then it starts happening. Your input about the thread being "dumb" got even "dumber" once you replied.
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The name of the thread is literally "Power button too high"....but he wasn't complaining, really...
Anyway, I won't hijack the thread anymore with my complaint, about everyone else's power button complaints. You guys can have this one and I'll gladly bow out since really there is nothing to offer to it anyway.