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[Q] Rooting Kindle Fire outside USA

Hi guys,
This issue has undoubtedly been asked before but can anyone confirm a 100% successful rooting of the kindle fire from outside the states (and how did u do it/guide please)?
Preliminary searching on google for rooting the fire seems to suggest its plagued with difficulty issues/bricking etc if yer outside US Soil. I won my kindle fire and so far my wife has been using it simply as an ereader, but we can't access any of the services or download and install a single app (due to not having a credit card with a USA Address). I'm guessing this is why non usa ppl are having issues, is their an app we need to install on the device to successfully root it? It's a pretty useless tablet at the moment for us, but when I do get to steal it away from my wife (for half an hour) i want to hand it back rooted, with android market (google play?) so we can turn this thing into a more useful device.
I absolutely cannot hand it back to her bricked lol.
So please, if yer from the states this questions is unlikely for you as its doubtful u have encountered the issues us international users have.
Like i said above I can't really find in google any 'international' root guide, the videos/instructions are clearly from a 'within USA' procedure and then when you look at the comments plenty of people are getting stuck at 'part x' with no sign of help or assistance.
FYI i reside in Australia.

if you root it that has nothing to do with your location
for rooting refer to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23589931#post23589931
btw. im not in the us also

cheers for that, will look into it. Just wanted to make sure. How come typing in google such things as 'kindle fire root international" or "worldwide" etc doesn't show this thread :S

would think because rooting has noting to do with international or worldwide
btw. every information i ever needed is here at xda - most articles out there refer to here - if there are some interesting articles outside they are usually linked here also - and the search function of xda is great !

Just follow the instruction at the following thread to root KF any where:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20668030
After rooting, you can install Google apps and download applications from any where.
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thanx guys xD
I'll let u know how i go.

My first hurdle is installing usb adb driver, i'm not on win 7, im on xp pro 32bit, any suggestions?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22342376&postcount=6

ALL Kindle Fires has exactly same ROM, so your region not influenced anyway

My good friend roh rooted it for me this afternoon. xD

So... It is beginning to appear that the Google IO 10.1 tabs will not be updated?

I like to stay with stock so I can get movies and drm stuff,, but beginning to wonder if ICS will ever arrive for the Google IO sub model? I don't suppose anyone has authoritive info?

As far as I know they are a different build than the other tabs and will not be updated. You might be able to do it yourself with Odin.

if you do not want to lose your unlocked and fastboot enabled bootloader, do not flash the odin package as is. remove the bootloader.bin from the package and/or create yourself a CWM zip and flash.
you can use any of the HC zips i created in the past as a guide if you go the CWM route. i believe you can also find CWM flashables for it in the dev section.
however, if you get a rolling screen, you will have to modify the LCD output accordingly in the kernel and use that, so it will be compatible with your current bootloader. you can reference this in the galaxy-2636 kernel sources on my github.

Will any of those approaches preserve ability ti get /run DRM content ire from Google Play (movies?)

Short answer: The Google I/O Version of the GT-7510 is supported by Google and not by Samsung. Samsung will not be updating it or posting an OTA update. If it will be updated, it will be directly from Google.
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Longer answer: I spent about 3 hours on the phone with 6 Samsung techs on 16AUG2012 to get that answer. The group in charge of wifi tablets doesn't handle the Google I/O tablets, and they refer you to the cellular group. The cellular group then tells you that since the tab doesn't have a cell chip, it's not in their realm. In the end, Level 2 support on the cellular group had the answer above.
His recommendation was to "search the internet" for a custom rom and flash with that. He then reminded me that the tablet is out of warranty, so flashing isn't going to void anything. I agreed, but I can only imagine how many devices he's caused people to brick if he tells everybody that.
He also went on to say that Google is preparing their next flagship tablet and it won't be a Samsung device, it'll be an Acer device. When probed, he revealed it will be smaller than the 10.1" tab and it will be out sometime around holiday season 2012. I then told him the Nexus7 was already out and he was really confused.
If anyone else wants to try, the phone number for the cellular group is 1-877-652-4507. If they try to forward you to 1-800-SAM-SUNG, just ask for a manager or level 2.

dartdog said:
I like to stay with stock so I can get movies and drm stuff,, but beginning to wonder if ICS will ever arrive for the Google IO sub model? I don't suppose anyone has authoritive info?
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What do you mean by stock? Vanilla android as in 3.0 and 3.1 as we originally had with these lovely I/O tabs, (so the last "Google supported" roms date from over a year ago now) or the later touchwiz offerings from Samsung not rooted etc? The I/O tab is a 7510 but with a nice exclusive back panel.
If you're still running3.1 you really are missing out on using the potential and power of this great device and can use any 7510 roms on it....
Mine is running 4.0.4 admittedly with touchwiz ( though Samsung have now 'toned it down' and it is far less cartoon-like) and it still remains one of the best performing and my most preferred tab (have zoom, transformer 101 and transformer prime ( complete cr*p).) It is rooted but of course you don't have to do that but even so gives no problems with films or dem that I have seen..
I downloaded latest Gt-p7510 ics rom from Samfirmware and flashed through Odin and it is now really flying and everything works tres bien
Screenshot attached showing movies works if that's what you mean by DRM etc...
I really can't recommend it strongly enough.... it's one of the earliest and best tabs which easily runs the latest iteration of android
Enjoy!!
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Even tho the official Roms for this device have been close to untouched, there was some Samsung things in there stock. When I had to ship my io tab in I had to use a special number but it was still Samsung. All past updates have been thru Samsung not google. The guy I spoke to also told me the io tab was suppose to b updated to ics. But that was months ago and we see how that turned out. Just flash the one for the retail tabs and take precautions for ur bootloader. I flashed it and now I'm not locked anymore but I also don't have fastboot anymore (which I don't care about anyways.) All DRM stuff will work fine with the retail roms and touchwiz on ics isn't all that bad either
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[PSA] Don't buy one as a "cheap tablet" and expect a bootloader unlock

All Amazon devices dating back to the Kindle Fire HD 7/8.9" (2012) have a "locked bootloader", meaning that it may not ever be possible to root, get a custom recovery, or install CyanogenMod (Or any custom ROM for that matter).
This is not intended to bash Amazon (They should make "Developer friendly" tablets, though), I just wanted to let everyone know before it gets released better than after.

r3pwn said:
All Amazon devices dating back to the Kindle Fire HD 7/8.9" (2012) have a "locked bootloader", meaning that it may not ever be possible to root, get a custom recovery, or install CyanogenMod (Or any custom ROM for that matter).
This is not intended to bash Amazon (They should make "Developer friendly" tablets, though), I just wanted to let everyone know before it gets released better than after.
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I don't have big idea about those tablet's searched them yesterday but i found THIS. isn't it the previous amazon kindle forum page? And they managed to unlock the bootloader so you can flash a custom ROM. And propably this will come for the "newest generation" Amazon tablets too.

Geo_Tech said:
I don't have big idea about those tablet's searched them yesterday but i found THIS. isn't it the previous amazon kindle forum page?
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One generation before the last set of Kindles. The last generation of Kindles (the HDXs) have yet to get any ROMs of any kind, except for via SafeStrap.

r3pwn said:
One generation before the last set of Kindles. The last generation of Kindles (the HDXs) have yet to get any ROMs of any kind, except for via SafeStrap.
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Is this not a ROM for the last generation of HDXs ? Maybe we are talking about the same, don't know just saying.

Geo_Tech said:
Is this not a ROM for the last generation of HDXs ? Maybe we are talking about the same, don't know just saying.
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That's why I said "except via SafeStrap". SafeStrap allows for modified stock ROMs on bootloader-locked devices.

Geo_Tech said:
Is this not a ROM for the last generation of HDXs ? Maybe we are talking about the same, don't know just saying.
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Safestrap has "roms" but they basically run the stock kernel and add stuff around that. This severely limits what a rom can do.
The last generation of Amazon Kindles (the HDX series) were locked much tighter than the second generation (the original HD versions) which are locked tighter than the original Fire. Amazon has been working hard to prevent us from messing with their "content delivery" system. I love the price of these things, and the hardware for the price looks pretty good, but I will not be getting one since I honestly do not think that the community will pry them open for open development usage.

Ok, now i have a clear view of whats going on.

If we can just get a root method would be a great start.
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It seems a fastball cable does not bring up fastball mode. Is this just me? My cable my be screwed up since I made it a year back.
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HDX 8.9 4th Gen. "SATURN"

So I bought the 4th gen HDX 8.9, aka "saturn", started looking around the forums, and to my surprise there is 0 development for this model. My guess is nobody was willing to upgrade to this device due to the fact there is very little difference from the previous model(couple of hardware upgrades). The only reason I purchased is Amazon gave me a no interest 5 month payment plan to buy. There are probably a lot of members(new members) looking on this forum and thinking their 8.9 is the same as what is being discussed here. There is not enough clear information to distinguish the two models. Now that Fire OS 4 is out there are no prefixes to the system version, ie: xx.4.5.2, it is just 4.5.2 across the board. As an example there is a thread in the QandA, here, where I see people calling the 4th gen "Apollo" and giving suggestions of downgrading or rooting using apollo software versions. NOT COOL. so as a warning:
BE VERY SURE YOU DO NOT HAVE A 4TH GEN 8.9 BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY MODIFICATION (ROOT/DOWNGRADE/SAFESTRAP) PROCEDURES POSTED ON THIS FORUM
Now to get to the real reason for my post. My 8.9 is currently on software version 22.4.5.2(SATURN) with wifi disabled. I would love to work with some other members to get this rooted and open the door for more development. I have tried the new method using the cve apk to no avail. I think it should work since it does on the older gens. And the only difference in the software versions would be hardware related tweaks. But, maybe I'm missing something. Any suggestions?

onemeila said:
So I bought the 4th gen HDX 8.9, aka "saturn", started looking around the forums, and to my surprise there is 0 development for this model. My guess is nobody was willing to upgrade to this device due to the fact there is very little difference from the previous model(couple of hardware upgrades). The only reason I purchased is Amazon gave me a no interest 5 month payment plan to buy. There are probably a lot of members(new members) looking on this forum and thinking their 8.9 is the same as what is being discussed here. There is not enough clear information to distinguish the two models. Now that Fire OS 4 is out there are no prefixes to the system version, ie: xx.4.5.2, it is just 4.5.2 across the board. As an example there is a thread in the QandA, here, where I see people calling the 4th gen "Apollo" and giving suggestions of downgrading or rooting using apollo software versions. NOT COOL. so as a warning:
BE VERY SURE YOU DO NOT HAVE A 4TH GEN 8.9 BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY MODIFICATION (ROOT/DOWNGRADE/SAFESTRAP) PROCEDURES POSTED ON THIS FORUM
Now to get to the real reason for my post. My 8.9 is currently on software version 22.4.5.2(SATURN) with wifi disabled. I would love to work with some other members to get this rooted and open the door for more development. I have tried the new method using the cve apk to no avail. I think it should work since it does on the older gens. And the only difference in the software versions would be hardware related tweaks. But, maybe I'm missing something. Any suggestions?
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In terms of hardware only Chipset or to be precise CPU is changed rest all is same i believe...
For rooting try CVE Rooting apk for Apollo to my knowledge that should work & root device.
Due to locked bootloader and efuse your device future is limited to safe strap that needs to be built for your device yet.
There are some developments going on with APOLLO so that can be or should be implied to Saturn as well (atleast with little modifications)

onemeila said:
So I bought the 4th gen HDX 8.9, aka "saturn", started looking around the forums, and to my surprise there is 0 development for this model. My guess is nobody was willing to upgrade to this device due to the fact there is very little difference from the previous model(couple of hardware upgrades). The only reason I purchased is Amazon gave me a no interest 5 month payment plan to buy. There are probably a lot of members(new members) looking on this forum and thinking their 8.9 is the same as what is being discussed here. There is not enough clear information to distinguish the two models. Now that Fire OS 4 is out there are no prefixes to the system version, ie: xx.4.5.2, it is just 4.5.2 across the board. As an example there is a thread in the QandA, here, where I see people calling the 4th gen "Apollo" and giving suggestions of downgrading or rooting using apollo software versions. NOT COOL. so as a warning:
BE VERY SURE YOU DO NOT HAVE A 4TH GEN 8.9 BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY MODIFICATION (ROOT/DOWNGRADE/SAFESTRAP) PROCEDURES POSTED ON THIS FORUM
Now to get to the real reason for my post. My 8.9 is currently on software version 22.4.5.2(SATURN) with wifi disabled. I would love to work with some other members to get this rooted and open the door for more development. I have tried the new method using the cve apk to no avail. I think it should work since it does on the older gens. And the only difference in the software versions would be hardware related tweaks. But, maybe I'm missing something. Any suggestions?
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The underlying exploits should still be viable on 4.5.2 for the saturn, the APK probably just needs some tweaking for other devices.

Anyone willing to test it? I just got my new HDX(got Best Buy to take it back and trade it out) and they gave me a Saturn.... urgh...

Same boat
I too purchased a new hdx 8.9 for the no interest payment system Amazon offers. I've been monitoring this forum for a couple of months, waiting for someone to crack into it. If there is any way I can help any devs working on the device/software, feel free to let me know. I have no development experience, but I don't mind testing and what not.
Whatever helps speed this process up.
I am of course running 4.5.3. Fun.

Terghan said:
I too purchased a new hdx 8.9 for the no interest payment system Amazon offers. I've been monitoring this forum for a couple of months, waiting for someone to crack into it. If there is any way I can help any devs working on the device/software, feel free to let me know. I have no development experience, but I don't mind testing and what not.
Whatever helps speed this process up.
I am of course running 4.5.3. Fun.
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I'm waiting patiently also. tried every method under the sun on my 4th gen Saturn with no success. boy was I pissed when it updated on it's own. using saferoot installs the supersu app but it's not granting apps superuser permissions. tried downgrading etc. my next step is to open one of the rootable updates rename the binary etc. to see if I can trick it into accepting it.

I have a Saturn with "Fire OS 4.2"... Build Date of September 2014... Can I towelroot???
Scratch that, it updated as I was typing that

Anyone willing to tweak the apk? I'd test, but I have no warranty on this new one...

onemeila said:
So I bought the 4th gen HDX 8.9, aka "saturn", started looking around the forums, and to my surprise there is 0 development for this model. My guess is nobody was willing to upgrade to this device due to the fact there is very little difference from the previous model(couple of hardware upgrades). The only reason I purchased is Amazon gave me a no interest 5 month payment plan to buy. There are probably a lot of members(new members) looking on this forum and thinking their 8.9 is the same as what is being discussed here. There is not enough clear information to distinguish the two models. Now that Fire OS 4 is out there are no prefixes to the system version, ie: xx.4.5.2, it is just 4.5.2 across the board. As an example there is a thread in the QandA, here, where I see people calling the 4th gen "Apollo" and giving suggestions of downgrading or rooting using apollo software versions. NOT COOL. so as a warning...
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I'm working on a Help thread/FAQs
[Help Thread][Fire HDX 8.9 - 2014] Ask Any Question, Noob Friendly
If anyone has some Hacks/Tricks they found that work with the Fire HDX 8.9 - 2014
Please post them there.
Thanks

Rooted Saturn waiting for Safestrap
Hi all,
I have an HDX 8.9 4th Gen (Saturn) device that was updated to 4.5.5.1. Rooted with Kingroot following directions in other parts of the forums. I also had an HDX 7 (Thor) that was updated to 4.5.5.1 and also rooted with Kingroot. I installed Safestrap 4.01 on the 7" device no problem and loaded the Nexus 4.05 custom Rom. Buttery smooth works like a charm. I am waiting on the update to FireOS 5 for the 8.9 as Kingroot is supposed to work to 5.1. Real question here is, will any of the fine Devs here be working to update Safestrap to work on Saturn 4.5.5.1 or will they be waiting for the FireOS 5 update, or doing nothing at all? I truly appreciate all the work they've done in keeping these great devices relevant, even if Amazon has not.

Fire HDX 8.9 (4TH GEN) hacks/work arounds
I just purchased a used Fire HDX 8.9 4th gen. from eBay and although it could not be registered with Amazon for whatever reason (lost, stolen, or ?) I hacked it to work as a regular Android tablet with Google Play Store and Alexa access.
NO ROOT REQUIRED
First I upgraded the Amazon firmware to the latest build by downloading it, renaming the .bin extension to .zip and side loaded it with the native Fire recovery. It loaded and worked fine.
Next I installed the Google Play store and related apps and they work fine.
Next I installed Youtub and it works fine.
Next I installed an e book reader (I like eReader Prestigio) and it works fine.
Next I installed a second launcher (Nova Launcher) and deactivated the native Fire launcher using Launcher HiJacker app and it works fine. Boots to Nova fast.
Next I downloaded the the upgrade to the Alexa app for android and it works even without a registered tablet.
Finally I downloaded and installed the Windows 10 application "Debloater" and disabled many native Amazon Fire apps that will not be needed because I use this device to watch Youtube videos, movies, surf the net, and to read and play on-line chess. It is a great tablet when hacked out of the Amazon echo system.
You can do this also .
Goodluck!
Oh the stock camera didn't work but the "open camera app" works fine.

bobcat131 said:
NO ROOT REQUIRED
Next I installed the Google Play store and related apps and they work fine.
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Could you detail which versions you used? I'm assuming you installed Google Play Services before the Play Store. Which versions did you use? Did you have to install anything else before you could proceed to the next step?
Thanks!

I used the Open GAPPS 7.1 Pico

Fire HD 10 2021 Questions

I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!

GeekyWilliam said:
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Here's the thing with loading custom roms on any 2019 or newer fire tablet nowadays. No one's been able to find any exploits on the tablets because Amazon has been cracking down on the MediaTek exploits that we would usually be able to use. Especially with the newer OS, I really don't think that anyone will find anything that they can do with unlocking the bootloader and flashing a new ROM since it's basically all been patched.
In terms of Google Play Services and apps, I haven't tried this on the HD 10 2021, but it is most likely possible because I use them just fine on my HD 8 Plus 2020 running the same operating system. So Google Play Store is (most likely) achievable. Hope this helps!

Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device

Galaxy-Geek#1 said:
Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
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Well, yes and no. I know that sounds pretty vague, but it's because it really depends on the tablets.
So recently, people haven't been able to find any exploits that will give them root access to newer tablets, and without an unlockable bootloader, Magisk is definitley out of the question.
On some of the older tablets, as you probably have already seen, there are unlockable bootloaders, but this involves a lot of work to the tablet in terms of software and it isn't as simple as a command like "fastboot oem unlock" (unfortunately).
Basically, I don't think that root will be possible on the HD 10 2021, or at least anytime soon, because the rooting on the older tablets were done by finding exploits in the CPU and Preloader, and then using those exploits to use a hacked bootloader and recovery, and then those would patch the OS to allow you to mod those as much as possible, including giving you the ability to root. Amazon has patched these exploits and no one has been able to use one of the more popular "temporary" root solutions (mtk-su) with the newer tablets since the 2019 HD 10.
So, for now at least, you'll be out of luck.

GeekyWilliam said:
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.

One thing you'll find is that, even though you're able to install the Play Store and do a few more things with the ToolBox, any Amazon tablet running their Fire OS 7.x.x.x versions won't be able to do much with Google apps having to do with communications, that use push notifications (such as Hangouts or Chat). Something likely to do with how Google Play Services is working or interacting with Fire OS. It just won't allow it to work.
I've got Google Chat installed on my 2019 9th gen HD 10 and it had been able to be used to read and respond to received posts, just no notifications on incoming (I relied on another straight Android device for alerts). But sometime in the past two weeks an update to either Chat or (probably) Play Services occurred that makes Chat immediately close when I attempt to open an existing conversation. Bad news since Google is finally announcing the impending shutdown of the IM portion of Hangouts. Hoping to find out more about that on this forum.

GLRioux said:
Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
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Did same

najim017 said:
Did same
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This is not an option anymore to disable ads on the lockscreen??