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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
As underwhelming as Android updates have been since 4.1, I don't think it really matters anymore. My Moto X got updated from 4.3 to 4.4... I barely noticed.
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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
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The 7.7 was Verizon I think. Anything involving Verizon will be very slow on updates. They are the worst at approving manufacturer updates and pushing them out. HTC leaked a final 4.3 for my former DROID DNA 5 and it took Verizon 5 months to release it.
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All Samsung's high-end tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are running the same h/w and screen resolution. That's got to make coding updates faster and easier as so much is shared between them.
I'm optimistic that it will be different from the Tab 7.7 for a couple reasons. As mentioned above, the hardware and screen resolution is nearly identical across multiple devices this time, where the 7.7 was the only tablet with its processor and screen resolution (the Note 1 and Tab 7 Plus were the closest two. A phone and another low selling sparsely available tablet). The international version was updated slowly, but far quicker than the Verizon LTE version. However, I think it didn't sell well at all, was expensive, and was banned from multiple countries before or after its rocky unveiling (remember Apple had the courts remove it from the stand at IFA?). It became the best product that Samsung couldn't sell and therefore had little incentive to support it.
Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Samsung not supporting it, just that I'm logically hopeful this time around.
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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag ..
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I still have a 7.7 and it's on JB4.1.2.
It's smooth as... AND twice as quick.
I remember the lag on the Default ICS ROM and I was very disapointed. Especially as I had an S2 with less power but it's UI was silky smooth.
Fortunately the was a developer UpInTheAir who kept the device moving forward. His first ICS Sky High rom for the 7.7 was a god send.
And now, if it were not for the Pro 8.4 I'd still want to keep my 7.7 with the JB 4.1.2 release available.
The point however to take from your comments is that WITHOUT xda community the 7.7 I would have been very disappointed. It would have stayed the best screen/worst OS tablet/paperweight device available. As it is now with this ROM it is a better alternative than for Apple iPad Mini 1st Gen.
I hope that the 'Tab Pro' given it's 'Pro' status Samsung keeps with the updates. (Given I've just ordered one)
Welcome to the world of Samsung. You'll be lucky if you get more then 2 updates or a year of support. They're in the business of making a quick buck then dump their customers to desolation.
Got the iPad mini. Samsung scares me too much. If I was going for the 10.1, okay, but the 8.4 may turn out to be not popular enough and will be forgotten.
I have a Mini Retina. Sorry but there is no comparison to the 8.4 Pro. Sure the Mini has a nice aluminum back (which you need to immediately put into a case as it scratches super easy) and a slightly more robust battery but that's about it.
The Samsung wins everywhere it matters, battery notwithstanding.
I'll put the two side by side and take some pics of the screen. The Mini Retina is much dimmer (my biggest beef btw with the LG G Pad) than the Samsung irrespective of what brightness levels you set it at.
The other biggie is the Micro SD slot. The Tab Pro + a 64GB Micro SD card (80 GB total) is about $160 cheaper than a 64GB Mini Retina. Plus the accessories are much cheaper (mind you less selection of cases).
Now that Sandisk has released a 128GB Micro SD for $120 that equates to a 144GB tablet for $200 cheaper than the 128GB Mini Retina.
Plus if you are an avid reader, you cannot beat the reading apps on Android. The closest is Marvin for IOS and its still barely usable.
Just curious, is tab pro 8.4 capable of making phone calls? and i mean real phone calls like tab 7.7
Buy the LTE version and you can...
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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If you take a look at any reviews of LTE version then you can see Phone Application as well. And this fact is known, I' m waiting for the same thing...
hmm. so it's based on the picture of the phone application huh? okay2 ^^ thanks
Yeah i 'm also getting the LTE version to make phone calls
The reason the 7.7 didn't get a lot of support is due to it being banned in many countries so without them able to sell it they had no reason to keep it updated.
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I ordered the 8.4 LTE from Hong Kong... it'll arrive in 10 days.
I use the 7.7 now as my phone. I'm expecting to use the 8.4 as my phone too.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 vs Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, Worth Upgrading?
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Thanks for this topic.... above notes and comments. This has has been eating my brain for weeks....
I am also in this dilemma to, see actual comparison of two in terms of spec here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/6739,8663 (If im not allowed to add this, mods please remove link and keep post, thanks)
I wanted to know if it’s worth upgrading too or not, as I also used it for phone calls and video calls. I was wondering can the tab s 8.4 4G/LTE work in the same manner or are they different now? Also build quality on the Tab 7.7 is second to none. How does it compare to Tab S 8.4?
See that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 had the following available:
Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
Does the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 have the same fate as the Tab 7.7. Meaning does it have the same capabilities of "Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS"
Does anyone know, if yes please advise. As I’m thinking of selling my tab 7.7 32gb Wi-Fi and 3G to purchase a tab s 8.4 WiFi & 4G/LTE…
Thanks
So not even 2 weeks ago, the code name was confirmed Project Zero 2(S6 Edge 2 Name) (Note Edge 2 Name is Project Noble), which in Samsung terminology means starting all over from scratch...
From what I've read around on various sources, this is moreless going to be a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge 2, no stylus, single edge again, larger screen, what I'm stumped on and actually questioning is the storage and rear camera, so it goes it'll have 16Gb rom, and a 16mp rear camera, front will be 8mp.
But this also leaves me to wonder, WILL WE SEE A Note Edge 2 this year or just only a S6 Edge 2?
Theres this with no factual background sources and ANYONE can buy a domain name make a semi-pro layout and post speculations: http://galaxynoteedge2.com/, I'm mainly interested to see if we get to keep the removable battery.
Here's a few articles from SamMobile about it: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/29/exclusive-samsung-project-zen-and-project-noble-details/ published 04/29, http://www.sammobile.com/2015/05/07/rumor-samsung-galaxy-note-5-project-zen-details-emerge/ published 05/07, http://www.sammobile.com/2015/05/20...out-the-galaxy-note-5-and-the-project-zero-2/ published 05/20
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If anybody has any other findings post them here.
Man i hope its not a single edge without s pen. I used the note edge for a little bit and decided to trade it recently for a nexus 6 knowing the new edge would only be a few months away. I really miss that thing. It was a head turner. Another thing im worried about is it being another 400 dollar service agreement price. I got an open line just waiting on it to drop.
I have heard different things. Double edge no s pen is what i have heard the most. But i have seen some double edge with s pen images too.
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Well apparently I think there's going to be 3 devices released september this year, Note 5, Note Edge 2 (Project Noble) and S6 Edge (Project Zen renamed to Project Zero 2)
This was just published by AndroidPIT
https://www.androidpit.com/galaxy-n...ter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20150706_DN
all rumors point toward no note edge 2 being released. the s6 edge+ (not part of the note series) looks to be just a larger version of the s6 edge. and like the s6 edge no right or left independent displays. i believe the NE2 was axed because it would be very expensive to produce. i think samsung decided that for the small number of sales it got, and the price they would have to sell a new one for, (which would be north of $1000usd) it simply wasn't practical. my assumption is based on the belief that the devise would follow on the build quality of the current S series, that it would need a huge non replaceable battery and 64 or 128gb of non expandable memory.
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all rumors point toward no note edge 2 being released. the s6 edge+ (not part of the note series) looks to be just a larger version of the s6 edge. and like the s6 edge no right or left independent displays. i believe the NE2 was axed because it would be very expensive to produce. i think samsung decided that for the small number of sales it got, and the price they would have to sell a new one for, (which would be north of $1000usd) it simply wasn't practical. my assumption is based on the belief that the devise would follow on the build quality of the current S series, that it would need a huge non replaceable battery and 64 or 128gb of non expandable memory.
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Look up Project Noble... That's the Ne2
do you know how many "projects" a large corporation like samsung starts without a public release. the note edge was a "project" at one point . originally it was only being developed for the local korean market. the note edge was never being developed for world distribution. public outcry made it a reality. just because they have a "project noble" in the works does not mean a note edge 2 release is imminent.
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do you know how many "projects" a large corporation like samsung starts without a public release. the note edge was a "project" at one point . originally it was only being developed for the local korean market. the note edge was never being developed for world distribution. public outcry made it a reality. just because they have a "project noble" in the works does not mean a note edge 2 release is imminent.
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You're being misinformed by being ignorant, the articles clearly cover 3 devices, the Note 5, Project Zero 2(Samsung's Starting Over from Scratch code name aka Project Zen) and the Note Edge 2 aka Project Noble. But nope okay obviously YOU KNOW More than me so why not go make your own thread, where you can be right with no sourcing.
I'd go as far as to argue that it didn't sell well cause it was released in limited quantities, unlike the S6 Edge.
calm down, it's just my opinion based on everything we know today. i hope your correct. just look, we've seen leaked pics of the s6 edge+, the note 5, but where are the leaked images of the note edge 2. then you read all the rumors like this (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/06/no-galaxy-note-5-edge/) and you don't hold out much hope.
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calm down, it's just my opinion based on everything we know today. i hope your correct. just look, we've seen leaked pics of the s6 edge+, the note 5, but where are the leaked images of the note edge 2. then you read all the rumors like this (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/06/no-galaxy-note-5-edge/) and you don't hold out much hope.
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LoL I hope ? you're wrong. I think it would be cool to get a dual edged note, then again I rarely ever use the spen, so I sacrifice that for being the same size as the Note Edge.
It didn't sell well because there was no hype/advertising for it and it had a 429$ upgrade price. Why would u buy it for 429 when u could get a regular note 4 for 129 dollars less. It didn't even show up under best buy trade in program when i had mine. Honestly i think it was looked at as a gimmick and under appreciated. I loved mine and if the new edge doesn't have s pen or independent display i wont be using my upgrade on it.
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I know I was at Sprint the day it was released and 2 other people were there trying to get one and were directed to that store having them in stock from another store and 3 T-Mobile stores I frequent were sold out of them.
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So not even 2 weeks ago, the code name was confirmed Project Zero 2(S6 Edge 2 Name) (Note Edge 2 Name is Project Noble), which in Samsung terminology means starting all over from scratch...
Theres this with no factual background sources and ANYONE can buy a domain name make a semi-pro layout and post speculations: http://galaxynoteedge2.com/, I'm mainly interested to see if we get to keep the removable battery.
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I unfortunately am under the impression that the Note Edge is going to end up being a one-off device.
The setup and functionality of the edge screen changed with the s6 edge, and unless there have been updates, all I've heard is that s6 edge is more about aesthetic appearance than usefulness by comparison to the Note Edge.
Samsung doesn't seem to be really interested in developing the concept of the edge panel as a full utility to enhance their implementation of Android.
Next to nothing has shown up in their market for edge specific new features or panel choices.
Honestly, they seem more interested in tinkering around with their in-house operating system and smart watches lately.
I am disappointed that they have more or less it seems to have abandoned really developing and exploring the possible functionality of the edge screen.
Right now, it seems like Samsung is just sitting around fat and happy, because every other android device maker seems to have stepped up their game in terms of their respective new devices. You can debate if their good or bad, but at least you can see they're driving at progressively updating and improving their phones.
What is Samsung doing? One step forward and 2 steps back. I could care less about a metal backing on the phone when it means getting rid of adding a miniSD for storage, as well as no longer being able to swap out the battery.
The battery situation might be tolerable, but the getting rid of being able to add storage is a joke. As if adding a tiny slot on the top or bottom of the phone to insert a microSD is beyond their engineering capabilities!?
If device manufacturers didn't charge through the nose for larger capacity "upgrades" it might not be as big a deal, but then at the very least any of their "flagship" phones should have no less than 64gb- especially since they use 4-6 gb for the OS and customization.
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I am absolutely disappointed by this!
Terrible move by Samsung for not releasing this in the UK.. Kick in the teeth
Time to think about changing brands
Apparently no 128gb model either. A person on a forum linked a Verizon page showing a 128gb, but Verizon is stating was a place holder for the launch and based on S6 offering one. I guess
a few days/weeks to see if Samsung changes their tune and then months before one could be added to the line up and landed to consumers.
EU actually.
the entire continent is missing out on the note 5, not just the little island in the west.
In fact Samsung now offer more or less only one phone in two sizes and with our without round edges (S6/edge/edge+ and note 5) and then they castrate themselves by taking the note from 1/3 of the world market with the argument that the phones were too similar and they would fear a cannibalism effect like they suffered already with S6 and S6edge. If they would had designed the note 5 differently and had given it besides the pen other differentations like replaceable batteries, plastic housing, sd card and water proofness they could have addressed different potential customers and they would not had the need to withdraw it from Europe.
Almost like Samsung is being mind controlled by Apple, since Apple could not hope for a "better" product to go against with the new iPhone 6+.
What a stupid decision are Samsung determined too cede their market share to their rivals.
At the most it may appear in the EU next year.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note5_will_not_launch_in_europe_this_year-news-13534.php
This article contains an updated statement from Samsung.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/13/...d_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget&ncid=rss_semi
It has to come to Europe. I am defiant by that statement. Even if it will be in 2016.
I still think it's ridiculous though. I thought, I'll skip the Note 4 and get the 5, and then it's delayed by six months.
The market availability of the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 will vary according to consumer needs and the specific market situation. The Samsung Galaxy Note 5 will be introduced in the US and Asian markets in August and we will look at further opportunities to launch the Galaxy Note 5 in other markets.
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What about the MENA region??
Short story of my day...
"Uhhh, can't wait for the new Note 5 as I wanted a replacement for my Note 3."
Samsung: No SD card.
"Okay, not fond of it but I will survive."
Samsung: Can't change battery.
"Ahh dammit, but still want it."
"Actually just shut up and take my money!"
Samsung: F... you, we won't sell it to you.
(Flips table)
Imo this was a very risky, bold move by not releasing this in the uk. But when you think about it korea and china constantly get phones that the uk and us dont. Im not going to bash them becuase i have an s6 and love it. We all should of known the note would be nothing but an overblown s6. Just like the nexus 6 was a moto x 2014 on steriods. Id assume once sales drop for sammy they will come to their senses and at least bring back an sd card on the s7 and note 6. Not much different than the "flagship killer" oneplus2 with no nfc or the m9 that was just a m8. Not a great year for new devices.
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Imo this was a very risky, bold move by not releasing this in the uk. But when you think about it korea and china constantly get phones that the uk and us dont. Im not going to bash them becuase i have an s6 and love it. We all should of known the note would be nothing but an overblown s6. Just like the nexus 6 was a moto x 2014 on steriods. Id assume once sales drop for sammy they will come to their senses and at least bring back an sd card on the s7 and note 6. Not much different than the "flagship killer" oneplus2 with no nfc or the m9 that was just a m8. Not a great year for new devices.
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They can't release right now in the UK or their sells will really tank.. You guys are going to get the note 5 with the 7422 processor, epop modems and a much bigger battery.
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EU actually.
the entire continent is missing out on the note 5, not just the little island in the west.
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My god . . . Can it be true that the giant landmass of Holland is missing out? Shame on the OP for focusing on the UK when the teeming billions of Dutch will miss out.
and the French, Germans, Spaniards, Portugese, Belgians, Greeks, Italians, Slovenians, and several more.
no one wants the note 5 anyway, they can keep their gimped downgraded phone, who cares.
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no one wants the note 5 anyway, they can keep their gimped downgraded phone, who cares.
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yup, I love my S6, had to buy it because my moto x 2014 broke but I really wanted to wait for the note5. I was still ready to get the note5 when it would come out but this phone is not even a straight upgrade from the s6, why did they remove the IR blaster?
By the looks of it the AT&T model supports the UK 4G bands (3, 7 & 20).
My girlfriend is currently in the States and returns in early September.
If she purchased one direct from an AT&T store to bring back for me, how long do you think I'd have to wait before people were able to offer unlock codes for them so I could use one with a Three UK sim card?
Apple here I come!!!
Samsung touch wiz still an issue. Had the s6 Edge which was cool but battery was poor and poor. Probably same issue with s6 Edge + and the price will be another deciding factor..
HTC pretty much quiet next couple of years due to loss after loss.
Moto x just not premium enough.
Chinese phones just don't get to us in time.
So apple it is.. Nooooooo
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Apple here I come!!!
Samsung touch wiz still an issue. Had the s6 Edge which was cool but battery was poor and poor. Probably same issue with s6 Edge + and the price will be another deciding factor..
HTC pretty much quiet next couple of years due to loss after loss.
Moto x just not premium enough.
Chinese phones just don't get to us in time.
So apple it is.. Nooooooo
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or a note4 at a discount
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or a note4 at a discount
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Did that baby it was nice whilst it lasted the whole month! Again touch wiz and the lag was too much to handle.
People are going to make a pretty penny doing import sales of the Note 5 into Europe I suspect.
Where there's a phone, there's a rumor, and the biggest one surrounding the unannounced Samsung Galaxy S7 is that the device will launch at next month's CES show in Las Vegas.
It's all conjecture at this point, along with the growing list of Galaxy S7 scuttlebutt that I've gathered up for you below. But here's the gist: the Galaxy S7 (and S7 Edge) isn't expected to change its design too much after last year's major overhaul, but it might include a microSD card slot again (yes!). The camera will add more low-light support, and Samsung looks like it's back in the thick of processors with Qualcomm again. Oh, and the phone might emerge as soon as January (and possibly at CES), according to one rumor.
This list of gossip and leaks originally published December 9, 2015 and updates frequently. It was last updated December 28, 2015 at 1:21 p.m. PT.
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I just want the damn thing to come in 5.7" without edge. The Note 5 was a joke of a device and I want to replace my Note 2.
If that means going back to the S series, no problem, I don't use the pen - but give us IR blaster, USB-C, MicroSD U3 etc
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
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Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.