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Will you love the hardware keys or Virtual keys(Galaxy Nexus)
I love virtual Keys
Desition here was quite hard, because both have their pros and cons, for example oftware keys eat up your screen space and since SGSIII will use amoled screen signs on buttons would burn in to the screen and we would have burned in virtual buttons while playing games for example...on the other hand HW buttons make bottom bezel larger, and they are not suggested from google on ICS....
....if I pull line here, i dont actually care...Why not?
Since samsung already rumored that desition was very hard, i guess HW buttons will have same functionality as software buttons, so it seems that we wont have "cool" software buttons, but we will have more free space on screen
I love s/w keys than h/w keys
Actually when we watch videos and slideshow it will hide automatically
Very easier to use.
I love s/w keys in galaxy nexus
I like virtual keys on my tablet
When I flashed Gummy on my D2, i enabled the virtual keys and always ended up sliding and hitting the home button, so even though it doesn't bother me, i like both but used to hardware; i just like how you can edit the virtual keys
Definitely Software keys!
1. Allows for maximum screen size within a smaller phone shell
2. When the keys are not needed, we will get more screen real estate
3. With roms, we will be able to choose what buttons we want. Menu, search, recent apps, etc.
HW button more prefer for S3
Of coz hw button so that i may avoid accidentally push button like home button as ive ever experienced with gnex.....
I love the soft keys of my Galaxy Nexus. They change direction when the screen orientation changes. They eat up screen space, that's why I made them tiny and almost transparent with the Codename Android rom.
I love the extra screen space, I feel like I upgraded my device to one with a bigger screen. The Navigation Bar is now about the size of the status bar, and I almost never miss the buttons with my finger.
i hate virtual keys.eats inch from the display i dont want them at all
alexanter the great said:
i hate virtual keys.eats inch from the display i dont want them at all
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Same here. I really don't see the advantages to them aside from being customizable. But what can you really add aside from the standard 4 already being used on GB.
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...on the other hand HW buttons make bottom bezel larger
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And the Nexus is what? Bezel-less? It has more than enough space below the screen for hardware buttons. They could even make the space smaller and there would still be room for hardware buttons.
The OONLY reason to go from Hardware buttons to Software ones (a la Gnex) is to cut down the bezel and overall phone size, which means you can have a larger screen-estate.
I know for a fact, this wont be happening.
So if Samsung chooses a Virtual or Hardware buttons the overall size will be the same.
But then, why give up the tactile satisfaction of hardware keys?
No reason !!
I've simply handed my device to many people, lets say after a Youtube clip loaded, and so many times they grab the Capacitive "Back" button which means the whole video must load all over again. This is particularly annoying when you have bad reception/slow connection.
So Samsung, make all 3 hardware buttons (stylish, slim, clicky etc) or Shave off that bezel so that the screen gets larger without the phone getting larger. Ball's in your court
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And the Nexus is what? Bezel-less? It has more than enough space below the screen for hardware buttons. They could even make the space smaller and there would still be room for hardware buttons.
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You know the sides like the outer edge the smooth part on the outer edge or like on a watch the.ring surrounding the watfh none of that
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I prefer capacitive keys if it include the dedicated menu key. Otherwise give me virtual keys so I can mod one in there.
I still don't trust that menu works right in all apps with ICS so I prefer to have one in all cases.
Definitely virtual keys. Don't really like the white glow of my SGSII's hardware keys.
No more hardware key, please! I couldn't stand the feedback of GS2 hw key. It's okay at first, but when time goes by the feedback got worse and eventually I was able to hear a tiny clicking sounds when pressing it. Such a fragile spot of an expensive device.
I like virtual keys. I can set up its count, color, etc. Small but nice feature.
if the phone doesnt have virtual buttons i will surely go for galaxy nexus
1. Get a phone with capacitive or virtual buttons
2. Install Temple Run
3. Play the game and swipe down
4. Accidentally hit home button
5. ???
6. Profit!
Or something like that. I absolutely hate my Huawei Ideos X5s capacitive home button. So I'd like to have capacitive multitask-button, hw home button and capacitive back-button. I'll buy it either way. I've been missing Samsung so much after I swapped my SGS2 to Omnia W and then ended up using my backup phone (Huawei) until SGS3 comes.
I had a huawei x3 with soft keys. Total crap! Too many accidental clicks.
Hardware home Button + menu key + back key
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I have used SGS and SGS2. I am used to hardware keys so I would love to have it. I can make practical use of home key, like taking pictures or putting whatever shortcut I want. I am sure samsung will stick to the hardware keys.
I prefer waking my phone by pressing the physical home button rather than using the side power button. Since the note has a larger foot print it's easier to reach the home button.
Also given Amoled's flaws, static images such as the notification bar and virtual on screen buttons would prematurely cause screen burn out which leads to ghosting. I've had the notification/status bar destroy my galaxy S screen.
Am I the only one that likes physical home button?
inurb said:
I prefer waking my phone by pressing the physical home button rather than using the side power button. Since the note has a larger foot print it's easier to reach the home button.
Also given Amoled's flaws, static images such as the notification bar and virtual on screen buttons would prematurely cause screen burn out which leads to ghosting. I've had the notification/status bar destroy my galaxy S screen.
Am I the only one that likes physical home button?
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Nopes You are not...I too like waking it up via the Home button....
I also prefer the physical home button compared to the capacitive touch buttons. This device is my first international phone that I have used and I like it a lot better than any carrier's version I've ever used.
I'd rater it was capacitive like menu and back buttons. Would make the design look so much better.
Can't say that i like software keys though - i always turn them off.
Given I'm the only one who voted Virtual so far; I better post my rationale to see if I am sensible or really need to get my head checked.
First; why I like the physical button; no accidental press and good demarcation of where the back and menu buttons are (and the home of course ) I tend to wake the phone using the side lock button, because my thumb is on the side already, when I pull the phone out of my pocket (right handed) but I grant that when my phone is on the table, its much easier with the home button.
On the other hand I would prefer it if the home button was the capacitive icon like the menu and back buttons. Advantages of this to me would be that it would distance Samsung from the iPhone-like single button front but mainly because I like the modern feel when I used a Galaxy Nexus. There is something to be said for the 'light touch' approach to using phones. I Swype the screen with a light touch, tap icons and links lightly, back-button lightly. Then *crunch* the home button goes. I know its a really weird niggle to make but it is just personal preference.
edit: Reading some of the posts which were made while I was composing this short essay, I think I may have misunderstood 'virtual button'.
Yep same here prefer sometimes it saves me when screen is stuck
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Physical for me as well. And I use Screen Off and Lock in the notification bar to, well, switch the screen off and lock the phone. Using the power button is soooo 2010.
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I never use the home button to wake the phone (well maybe that's because I only discovered that it can be used instead of the power button after having the note for like a month lol)
I've not had a virtual unit to compare against, but I could see some problems having a virtual home key.
So, I voted physical.
My opinion goes like this:
99/100 - Xperia X10 buttons (slim, long, elegant, easy to press. Proper positioning of Back, Home, Menu buttons).
80/100 - NOTE's physical buttons (though the Back and Menu buttons should trade places. Accidental capacitive presses occur when passing the phone to others).
60/100 - On-Screen buttons (ICS/JB).
What I would like for NOTE-2:
On-screen buttons:
-Then device can be smaller.
-Device looks better/styling.
-S PEN will work with it.
-We can customize it with different functions, colours, glows, animations, gestures, app shortcuts.
Kangal said:
My opinion goes like this:
99/100 - Xperia X10 buttons (slim, long, elegant, easy to press. Proper positioning of Back, Home, Menu buttons).
80/100 - NOTE's physical buttons (though the Back and Menu buttons should trade places. Accidental capacitive presses occur when passing the phone to others).
60/100 - On-Screen buttons (ICS/JB).
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+1 totally agree!
PS. The X10 buttons were great, too bad the phone sucked.
PPS. I really hope phone manufacturers keep disregarding the ics/jb onscreen buttons. It just looks fancy but is way less functional.
On-screen or capacitive. Tactile feedback reminds me of wear anf tear. On the Note, I unlock exclusively using the home key
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I prefer physical Home button of Note / GS2. It is easier to wake up the phone. But compared to other Android which have capactivie Home, I tend to press physical Home less frequently, but instead press capaitive Back couple of times to come back to home. When I must press Home for task switching or when I have browsed several pages in browser, I press Home. So my take is - I like physical Home to wake up but would have preferred capacitive Home to go to home screen.
Kangal said:
What I would like for NOTE-2:
On-screen buttons:
-Then device can be smaller.
-Device looks better/styling.
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Huh? Device can be smaller?! You know that the result would be a smaller screen, right? In fact, if you want the same (usable) screen size, the device has to have the exact same size, even with CB.
I´m really enjoying my hardware buttons and I really hope that samsung will never ever abandon them.
- Wakeup with home key
- NO IN-BURNS!!!
- brighter lightning, even when screen is in energy saving mode
- partwise usable for other functions (see hyperX camera mod)
It is as simple as this....
YOU PREFER YOUR GIRLFRIEND/WIFE TO BE "PHYSICAL" OR "VIRTUAL" ????
The answer to this is as easy as the answer to that
Rulinglionadi said:
It is as simple as this....
YOU PREFER YOUR GIRLFRIEND/WIFE TO BE "PHYSICAL" OR "VIRTUAL" ????
The answer to this is as easy as the answer to that
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:-D great analogy
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brooon said:
Huh? Device can be smaller?! You know that the result would be a smaller screen, right? In fact, if you want the same (usable) screen size, the device has to have the exact same size, even with CB.
I´m really enjoying my hardware buttons and I really hope that samsung will never ever abandon them.
- Wakeup with home key
- NO IN-BURNS!!!
- brighter lightning, even when screen is in energy saving mode
- partwise usable for other functions (see hyperX camera mod)
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Here's my reasons why NOTE 2 should get On-Screen buttons:
1) Position the Power button on top. Make it large. Make it clicky.
There you go, its easy to Wake phone again : )
2) The Burn-In is associated with the screen tech, not the buttons themselves.
This point is quite redundant/pointless. In fact the issue affected a tiny portion of Gnex users and the in-burn was associated with the entire screen NOT exclusive to the navigation buttons.
3) You do have a point. But changing the buttons to a white silhouette will make it bright and stand out. You then have the option of making it Grey so its easier on the eyes in the dark. Or red to save power. You can also set a "screen on time" for the Navigation buttons for how illuminated they are for what duration. And more options when in power mode. The possibility of tons of options makes this a positive thing, not a negative thing.
4) hyperX MOD is for the Volume Rocker not the Home/Back/Menu keys. Its still possible to have hyperX and On-screen buttons. What you will miss out on though is BLED: flashing of capacitive buttons when Notification arrives.
Solution: Notification light! (a la Gnex)
I'd like to make another suggestion: Curved Glass.
That way it molds around your face and bum cheeks. Feels a little more balanced in the hand. What do you think?
I personally love the off screen buttons, why do most people like onscreen buttons more? its a waste of screenspace innit?
I liked the off screen buttons on my galaxy s4 but that's because it made the screen look big, especially when comparing to phones with on screen. Prefer to use the on screen buttons on my OPO as it makes the screen a bit and smaller which is OK as it is a big one. It's nice to have the option though and is a thoughtful feature on the part of the designers. Just wish they put the buttons the right way around though, why put them the opposite?
On screen buttons are ugly
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Capacitive buttons all the way. Using on-screen buttons is a waste of screen real estate.
on screen buttons? rofl. have fun wasting 40% space of the screen for nothing.
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on screen buttons? rofl. have fun wasting 40% space of the screen for nothing.
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Lol, 40%?!
definitely off screen!
I'll choose off screen every single time...
Your phones' screen is it's biggest asset... Don't waste it
timmaaa said:
Lol, 40%?!
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it feels like that yea,
I like using on screen as I like easy access to switch apps, going left / right in text fields. And it hides when you do use full screen.
Notor1ouS- said:
it feels like that yea,
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Oh I know that feel.
ePhan said:
I like using on screen as I like easy access to switch apps, going left / right in text fields. And it hides when you do use full screen.
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Yeah the shortcuts are enticing.. but still nothing that special. The off screen buttons can be flipped as well if you try hard enough (through xposed).
I like on screen, but with the height of the nav bar slimmed down (to save that precious screen size).
On-screen buttons for me. One of the main reasons being that the capacitive buttons are a little hard to press sometimes (the buttons seem to be relatively small and you need to be fairly accurate). On-screen buttons are lot more forgiving and I never have to press the same button twice (happens sometimes with capacitive buttons). Also, easy access to recents is another minor reason.
Always on screen. Off screen buttons have a horrible layout and you have to keep pressing the left one to list open applications.
On screen for me, I got used to it on my mako. Plus u got haptic feedback when you press them, when I tried the capacitive buttons, I kept missing and I wasn't sure if I pressed anything. Plus you can customize and swap them however you see fit. And lastly this phone is too damn big, so making it a tad smaller is only good. I don't have such big hands.
With the option available I use capacitive buttons to save screen space, but if I had a choice I'd say scrap the capacitive buttons and make the overall height of the phone shorter. For a bigger screen to body ratio.
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i like both
On screen buttons is more easy to use for me
Capacitive buttons for more screen space but difficult to use
Hmmm I'm using offscreen buttons because all my devices before had that... (Samsung)
But as the device arrived, I said I use the onscreen Buttons but if there are offscreen buttons why I should waste screen for Buttons?
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I use onscreen buttons for the convenience of shortcuts, with "extended desktop(show statusbar)" enabled. So i only lose screen if i'm using the buttons, and still have access to the shortcuts easily.
Onscreen buttons. I come from a nexus 5 and my OPO is affected by the yellow band issues, so...why not take the chance to kill two birds with one stone? ?
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easy access to recents is another minor reason.
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+1 on that reason, but the further I go the less minor it seems. I use the recents button constantly.
The dynamic button assignment on-screen is confusing at first but ultimately more logical. The extra buttons when the keyboard is up are helpful occasionally.
If you're like me and you don't really like the soft-keys, you should also like this workaround. So I absolutely dislike having to press the physical home button especially since I'm coming from a history of Nexus devices and the fact that it throws off the balance of the device annoys me. (Yes, I know it's an extremely shallow problem haha)
My workaround was to use on-screen buttons. However, the screen is already 5 inches so I didn't want to use any screen real estate for buttons. Came across an app called All-In-One Gestures that lets you create gesture actions. If it's something that sounds interesting to you, you should give it a try as it makes navigating much more intuitive (opinion, of course).
My setup is currently a swipe up from the bottom of the screen in the middle for home, swipe diagonally from the left edge for back, and swipe diagonally from the right for multitasking. So if I'm using it left handed, a swipe will go back and a touch of the closest button will be multitasking, and if I'm using it right handed, a swipe will open the multitasking tray while a touch to the closest button will go back. It's proven really efficient for me!
devon4786 said:
If you're like me and you don't really like the soft-keys, you should also like this workaround. So I absolutely dislike having to press the physical home button especially since I'm coming from a history of Nexus devices and the fact that it throws off the balance of the device annoys me. (Yes, I know it's an extremely shallow problem haha)
My workaround was to use on-screen buttons. However, the screen is already 5 inches so I didn't want to use any screen real estate for buttons. Came across an app called All-In-One Gestures that lets you create gesture actions. If it's something that sounds interesting to you, you should give it a try as it makes navigating much more intuitive (opinion, of course).
My setup is currently a swipe up from the bottom of the screen in the middle for home, swipe diagonally from the left edge for back, and swipe diagonally from the right for multitasking. So if I'm using it left handed, a swipe will go back and a touch of the closest button will be multitasking, and if I'm using it right handed, a swipe will open the multitasking tray while a touch to the closest button will go back. It's proven really efficient for me!
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There is also an option for an on screen button(s) under settings >accessibility >dexterity and interaction>assistant menu. It sits as an button over the top of everything on screen and you can edit it to set different options and order of buttons. It might not have the gesture option but still pretty useful.
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One more alternative, fingerprint sensor as touch home key.
poolmaker said:
One more alternative, fingerprint sensor as touch home key.
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There's a reason why the S7 didn't come with Soft-Keys, it's because it uses an AMOLED Panel. Prolonged display of bright colors causes burn in, ( you can try checking the S7s at the retail store as those have burned in displays ). Hardware keys would be better to avoid this. Its also the reason why the objects on the Always On Display move around every now and then, its to preven't burnins
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There's a reason why the S7 didn't come with Soft-Keys, it's because it uses an AMOLED Panel. Prolonged display of bright colors causes burn in, ( you can try checking the S7s at the retail store as those have burned in displays ). Hardware keys would be better to avoid this. Its also the reason why the objects on the Always On Display move around every now and then, its to preven't burnins
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1. Easyhome doesnt causes amoled burn-in.
Fingerprint sensor short touch is registered as home key.
Once again, fingerprint sensor.
2. Method described in OP is also burn-in free, in settings is possible to adjust transparency of "home area" to zero, therefore no object is permanently displayed.
Thanks for all your help over the years folks. I have a predicament of my own to solve now.
My S7 Edge SM-G395F has had some minor water damage, the only thing that seems affected is the capacitive 'back' and 'recent apps' buttons. Not working at all, and I've gone through all the possible standard fixes (hard reset, safe mode, factory reset).
I was wondering if anyone has managed to fine a way through roms, hacks etc to move these buttons above the originals and home button. I'm using an app to have floating buttons at the moment but no matter where I put them they get in the way, and repair is beyond my price range now.
So looking for a way to keep my phone more functional by adding a bar above a the home button permanently to use these close to the originals in a dedicated space and losing a little space from the screen itself.
Happy with room/flashing etc, any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
my buttons work fine but I always use an app called GMD Gesture Control to use gestures instead of tapping back and recent keys. the app doesn't have a navigation bar so it will not take the bottom part of the screen.
just download the pro version, not the lite one, and you'll find it the best app for replacing your broken keys' behavior.