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hey guys, i was wondering if you've noticed that it takes the battery an extremely long time to charge to 100% through the AC adaptor.
i actually don't have a i9000, i'm on the US att variant captivate. i'm trying to figure out if this is a model specific problem (ie. just for us att users) or is it for all of the galaxy s phones.
while the galaxy s does have an extremely large battery, it shouldn't take 6 minutes to charge only 1% of battery. i've noticed that charging my captivate for 2 hours only nets a 40-50% charge, which is far lower than what i had previously experienced on my iphone and sony ericsson phones.
in my opinion, this is the biggest problem of my phone especially since i'm always on the go. i may have to switch phones since i always don't have the luxury of charging for 7-8 hours at a time.
thanks.
Yea the charge speed is very slow while the phone is turned ON.
- However when its turned off it charges really fast, like 30 min for full battery.
Kjeldmis said:
Yea the charge speed is very slow while the phone is turned ON.
- However when its turned off it charges really fast, like 30 min for full battery.
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I guess I had the same issue, slow charging lateron when the battery fully drained it refused to charge and hence cannot start. I tried via usb cable when I panicked something went wrong so I hard reset my phone to see if it is some software issue. It happened once again phone cannot be switched on since it cannot recharge via adapter, so took it to the service center they tested it and told me that the problem is with the AC adapter.
Now the phone is with me, I am still monitoring it to see and confirm once again that charging via usb cable is not an issue.
Don't charge your phone overnight! When it gets really low, slap it on the charger for a couple hours until you've got 85-90%. Unplug and enjoy fantastic battery life. I have gotten about double normal battery life (approximately 48 hours) using this method. I'm on CM6.1, mind you, so it may be some quirk with the ROM.
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Ive been saying this for a while. I charge up my phone to about 96% and i let it go till almost 5% before i throw it back on the charge. That usually gives me 12 to 18 hours. A lot of people tend to get "battery panic" and throw it on soon as they see it draining a bit. Just leave it alone.
I charge on a wall charger. I have three batteries and change daily. I get 22-24 hours and 5-6 hours of hard use.
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Here are my observations:
The Evo seems to have a peculiar way of using external power. Once the battery reaches full-charge the external power apparently gets shut off and the phone operates on battery power until the battery level drops to somewhere around 85-90%. Then the charging current switches back on until the battery level reaches 100% again and the process repeats itself. This differs from more conventional scenarios where the phone actually runs on the external power (rather than the battery) once the battery reaches full charge.
I came to this conclusion while playing with my Evo while it was plugged into the charger. First I noticed that the charging light would cycle from green to amber and back every so often. Then I noticed that the battery level indicator would drop even while the charger was plugged in.
So I started checking my battery level in the morning before I removed the phone from the charging dock and discovered that it was rarely at 100%. I'm convinced that the phone does get charged to 100% when I put it on the charging cradle, but then it sits there running off of the battery until it drops to that magic ~85-90% level and the charging current is reestablished.
But a typical night on the charger isn't enough time for the battery level to drop enough to re-start the charging current and if I come along and just grab the phone, I'm starting my day with a battery which isn't completely charged. In my case, the only time this doesn't happen is if my day ends real late and the next morning starts real early.
Once I had a good idea of what was going on, coming up with a work-around was simple: One of the first things I do when I get up in the morning is look at the charging indicator on the phone. If it's amber I do nothing because the phone is already in charging mode. If it's green I remove the phone from the cradle for a moment and put it right back on. Most of the time the indicator will switch from green to amber when I do that, but if it doesn't I'll go online and read the news or something for a few minutes before I put the phone back on the cradle.
Either way, the phone will then charge for 30 minutes or less before the indicator goes green again. By then I'm done with my morning routine and ready to face the day, and when I grab the phone it's fully charged.
My Evo is out-of-the-box stock (for now). It's a hardware version 0003 and has firmware v. 3.29.651.5. I typically leave my Bluetooth turned on all the time, but I leave 4G, WIFI, and the GPS turned off unless I need 'em. My typical daily routine involves several phone calls, some email downloads and uploads, some incidental web browsing, and some geocaching if a new cache is published within a few miles. As long as I stick with that typical routine, my battery is always in the 40-50% range when I put the phone back into the cradle for the night. Of course if I use the phone more it discharges the battery more, but I'm set up to charge it at home, at work, and in the car.
Now despite everything I've posted here, I can't imagine any practical reason to not top off the battery whenever it's convenient. Letting the battery run down before you charge it doesn't have any effect on how long a full charge will run the phone. In fact, it will actually reduce the number of charge-discharge cycles that your battery can provide before it starts losing capacity. I don't want to type it all again, but if you're interested you can CLICK HERE if you'd like to learn more about LiPo battery characteristics and maintenance.
'Nuff outta me
Pete
the evo charges to 100% then cycles to 90% then back to 100% so that it does not explode from over heating thats why when you grab your phone in the morning it might say 93% rather than 100% i dont mind though cause i dont want my phone to blow up
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the evo charges to 100% then cycles to 90% then back to 100% so that it does not explode from over heating thats why when you grab your phone in the morning it might say 93% rather than 100% i dont mind though cause i dont want my phone to blow up
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I'm a lot more inclined to believe that it's either an engineering error or a half-baked idea with undesirable consequences. The reason I say that is I've had countless other cell phones and consumer electronics devices which used LiPo batteries for power, yet the Evo is the first device that I'm aware of which operates like that. The rest will stop charging when the batteries are fully charged, but they'll continue to use the external power to run the device as long as it's plugged in.
Pete
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I'm a lot more inclined to believe that it's either an engineering error or a half-baked idea with undesirable consequences. The reason I say that is I've had countless other cell phones and consumer electronics devices which used LiPo batteries for power, yet the Evo is the first device that I'm aware of which operates like that. The rest will stop charging when the batteries are fully charged, but they'll continue to use the external power to run the device as long as it's plugged in.
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I think the purpose is to prolong the battery life so it doesn't charge again every time it drops to 99%.
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I think the purpose is to prolong the battery life so it doesn't charge again every time it drops to 99%.
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Apparently my point is just blowing right past everyone.
For most modern consumer electronics devices the charger can serve at least two functions which are charge the battery and run the device. These functions are remotely related by virtue of the fact that the power comes from the same source, but the functions themselves are typically quite independent of each other. In other words, most devices can run off the charger's power regardless of whether the battery is being charged or not, and when the device is running on the charger, it's not drawing power from the battery.
But it appears that the Evo doesn't do things that way. In essence, it seems like the Evo is hard-wired to the battery and the charger is incapable of independently powering the device when it's not charging the battery. So the battery reaches full charge, the charging circuit shuts off, and the phone starts draining the battery despite the fact that the charger is still connected. Once the battery drains to ~85-90% the charging circuit kicks back on, the battery gets charged back to 100%, and the whole process repeats itself.
Consequently it's a crapshoot whether our Evos will be fully-charged when we take them off of the charger unless we take some additional steps. I can deal with those extra steps, but I can't come up with any practical reason why we should have to. No matter how long I analyze the situation, I can't see any benefit to doing things that way except, perhaps, to save on manufacturing costs. All I can come up with are annoying extra steps and unnecessary battery charge-discharge cycles, and I can't grasp how those benefit anyone.
I see that you and I have carried some of the same phones in the past, TheBiles (Sanyo 8300, Treo 650, Hero) and I don't remember any of those phones coming off a charger with anything less than a full charge unless I interrupted the charge cycle. In fact, I'm convinced that no phone that I've ever carried has had this problem. The Evo is the very first one which is why I suspect some folks at HTC are quietly saying oopsie.
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Pete, I'm not convinced most smart phones actually power themselves off of the wallcharger when plugged in as you seem to think. I have no real evidence to back this up, though - other than my own observations.
I will say that the EVO's method isn't as isolated as you seem to think. For example, the Palm Pre which I owned for a year previous to the EVO operates in the exact same manner.
The Pre would hit 100%, stop charging, operate on battery power until it dropped to 95%, then charge from 95 back to 100. The EVO, however, drops down to 90 before it starts the charge cycle again. This is probably better for the battery - but more confusing from a user perspective.
This might be your first phone that operates this way, but it certainly isn't unique to smartphones or HTC.
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Apparently my point is just blowing right past everyone.
For most modern consumer electronics devices the charger can serve at least two functions which are charge the battery and run the device. These functions are remotely related by virtue of the fact that the power comes from the same source, but the functions themselves are typically quite independent of each other. In other words, most devices can run off the charger's power regardless of whether the battery is being charged or not, and when the device is running on the charger, it's not drawing power from the battery.
But it appears that the Evo doesn't do things that way. In essence, it seems like the Evo is hard-wired to the battery and the charger is incapable of independently powering the device when it's not charging the battery. So the battery reaches full charge, the charging circuit shuts off, and the phone starts draining the battery despite the fact that the charger is still connected. Once the battery drains to ~85-90% the charging circuit kicks back on, the battery gets charged back to 100%, and the whole process repeats itself.
Consequently it's a crapshoot whether our Evos will be fully-charged when we take them off of the charger unless we take some additional steps. I can deal with those extra steps, but I can't come up with any practical reason why we should have to. No matter how long I analyze the situation, I can't see any benefit to doing things that way except, perhaps, to save on manufacturing costs. All I can come up with are annoying extra steps and unnecessary battery charge-discharge cycles, and I can't grasp how those benefit anyone.
I see that you and I have carried some of the same phones in the past, TheBiles (Sanyo 8300, Treo 650, Hero) and I don't remember any of those phones coming off a charger with anything less than a full charge unless I interrupted the charge cycle. In fact, I'm convinced that no phone that I've ever carried has had this problem. The Evo is the very first one which is why I suspect some folks at HTC are quietly saying oopsie.
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I completely agree. This is clearly going on, and I'm surprised more people don't talk about it. I put Cyanogen on mine the day I got it, so I thought that was the issue, but I went back to stock (for a day) and it did the same thing. The light goes off after 90% and it stops charging at 100% until it drops below 90%. I also agree that it doesn't seem to serve a usable purpose, and seems to be a design flaw.
I'm still very happy with the phone, but when battery life is this important, that's kind of a big deal.
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Pete, I'm not convinced most smart phones actually power themselves off of the wallcharger when plugged in as you seem to think. I have no real evidence to back this up, though - other than my own observations.
I will say that the EVO's method isn't as isolated as you seem to think. For example, the Palm Pre which I owned for a year previous to the EVO operates in the exact same manner.
The Pre would hit 100%, stop charging, operate on battery power until it dropped to 95%, then charge from 95 back to 100. The EVO, however, drops down to 90 before it starts the charge cycle again. This is probably better for the battery - but more confusing from a user perspective.
This might be your first phone that operates this way, but it certainly isn't unique to smartphones or HTC.
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I had two Pres, and both had the battery % mod on them. I used to set them on my touchstone at work all day long, and I would take them off periodically. My battery drained so bad I could lose 30% in an hour with light use. If I ever took it off the touchstone when it wasn't at 100%, it was only because it got too low and wasn't at 100% yet. I noticed this on day one with my EVO, and never noticed a single issue anything like this on my Pre.
I'm not saying it wasn't there, I'm saying I NEVER noticed this. As far as I knew, it charged to 100% and then ran off the plug, or at least that's what I assumed.
this is a strange thread for xda; competent, fully formed sentences. civilized banter. it's nice!
on topic though, i have noticed and came to this conclusion independently a couple months ago. it's kind of irritating - i hate how cheap manufacturers can be sometimes (all the time).
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this is a strange thread for xda; competent, fully formed sentences. civilized banter. it's nice!
on topic though, i have noticed and came to this conclusion independently a couple months ago. it's kind of irritating - i hate how cheap manufacturers can be sometimes (all the time).
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Hey, I've seen MUCH worse forums. Try Anandtech sometimes. Some great threads there, and a ton of awful.
I feel like HTC is just not that company that cuts corners. I think this might have been a real attempt to make something work well - or better - but in my opinion it failed miserably.
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I had two Pres, and both had the battery % mod on them. I used to set them on my touchstone at work all day long, and I would take them off periodically. My battery drained so bad I could lose 30% in an hour with light use. If I ever took it off the touchstone when it wasn't at 100%, it was only because it got too low and wasn't at 100% yet. I noticed this on day one with my EVO, and never noticed a single issue anything like this on my Pre.
I'm not saying it wasn't there, I'm saying I NEVER noticed this. As far as I knew, it charged to 100% and then ran off the plug, or at least that's what I assumed.
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You may not have noticed it, but I can guarantee you the Pre charged as I described. It was a "crapshoot" when you pulled it off the charger as to where you actually were in the charge. You could be anywhere from 95 - 100. Of course, the Pre would always show 100%, just as the EVO does.
Because the Pre's battery was smaller, WebOS was more battery hungry than Android, and the fact that it only cycled down to 95 instead of 90 like the EVO are all reasons why you might not have noticed it, but it was there.
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This is probably better for the battery - but more confusing from a user perspective.
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Why would it be better for the battery? They may be partial charge-discharge cycles but they're cycles nonetheless and the Lithium Polymer cell chemistry is only capable of so many of 'em before it starts to degrade. Short cycles are easier on it than full cycles, but they all take a toll.
I currently have something like 40 LiPo packs that range from dinky little 35mAh single-cell micro batteries to a couple of 10S (37V) 5000mAh packs. I use them in my R/C planes and helicopters, communications gear, and electronics projects and I've used up and disposed of many times that over the years. I even had to build my own packs and chargers when I first started using them because the cells were experimental and there wasn't anything commercially available yet.
And I survived all that without having a single LiPo fire (that I didn't deliberately trigger) and I attribute that to the fact that I've been rabid about learning everything I can about the technology and the use and care of the batteries.
And I'm unaware of any benefit that can be gained from unnecessarily cycling LiPo batteries regardless of how small the cycles are.
Pete
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I feel like HTC is just not that company that cuts corners. I think this might have been a real attempt to make something work well - or better - but in my opinion it failed miserably.
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My predominant theory is that HTC has erred on the side of caution on the advice of their legal department. LiPo cells can easily become little firebombs if they're mistreated and the overwhelming majority of "events" occur during a charge cycle. Search YouTube for lipo fire and you'll find pages and pages of examples, but beware:
You may not want to carry yer phone in yer pocket right next to yer cojones anymore after you do.
Pete
Having the wall battery charger solves this issue. The wall charger will charge the battery to full capacity.
It also allows me to test battery life on roms/kernels as accurately as possible. Only time I connect the phone to USB is when I need to move files.
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Having the wall battery charger solves this issue.
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When you say wall charger, do you mean one that you have to remove the battery from the phone and insert it in the charger?
Pete the Curious
Just wanted to say that there have been many discussions on this here at xda, I guess most of us just deal with it.
What I do is charge externaly with a cheap Chinese charger that Came with two batteries that work great.
Every since I made this move I haven't looked back. My battery life is great now, 24 plus hrs per charge. Sometimes I go close to 40 hrs, and I use Bluetooth, have GPS and WiFi ways on. In fact I don't cut any corners, no under clocking either.
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Got stuck switching over to the S7E after going through a huge fight with Sprint to get the Note 7, which we all know how that turned out. Anyway, went from an Iphone 6s plus to the note 7, both phones charged in my car, via my portable battery charger, and with wall charger pretty much the same. Saw no real issues. Now my S7E has been absolutely horrid.
Ram usage is never below 65%, which to me is insane, but no matter how much stuff I disable (package disabler pro of stuff I can disable without killing the OS) or uninstall, etc. I can't get it lower. I don't think my Note 7 went above 40% usually unless I left all kinds of crap open. When plugged into the wall, the "fast charge" is about 3-4 hours. Shows fast charging as working. Thought this was faster. Without me using the phone. I also get the weak charge notifications if I try and use it for like facebook. If I plug it into my car or into my portable charger, I might budge 10% an hour if I do absolutely nothing with my phone at all. Tried multiple samsung cables. All the same way. Using the AC adapter that came with the phone, also tried the one from the Note 7. Same result.
on the latest possible firmware, noticed this on the previous firmware, just haven't had time to fool with it.
Thoughts? I've done wake lock debugging and don't see anything keeping the phone from sleeping.
Thinking I might have a defective unit or I am going to find this thing is just a POS in comparison. I could go a whole day with both the iphone 6s plus or the Note 7, I can barely get through half a day with the S7E doing the same normal stuff. Setup exactly the same as the Note 7 was.
Re: charging. Not sure if you're saying the Note 7 charged fine or not, but are you using a charger designed for the iPhone with your S7? If so, it's never going to charge fast, as Apple adopted a proprietary technology to determine if the phone is connected to a charger or to a USB port. With an iPhone charger, your phone will think it's connected to a USB port and limit current draw to 500 mA. Using a charge-only cable (no data pins) should get around this, or use a charger not designed for Apple devices.
As far as RAM usage, Linux (which is what Android is) manages memory to maximize it's usage. Empty RAM is wasted RAM. Android will keep recently used apps, or apps that you use frequently, in RAM whenever possible, so that they're available without having to be loaded from ROM. If another app needs the RAM those apps are using, Android will close the app in use and free up the RAM for reuse. Unused RAM won't make your apps any faster, and will only slow down task-switching.
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Re: charging. Not sure if you're saying the Note 7 charged fine or not, but are you using a charger designed for the iPhone with your S7? If so, it's never going to charge fast, as Apple adopted a proprietary technology to determine if the phone is connected to a charger or to a USB port. With an iPhone charger, your phone will think it's connected to a USB port and limit current draw to 500 mA. Using a charge-only cable (no data pins) should get around this, or use a charger not designed for Apple devices.
As far as RAM usage, Linux (which is what Android is) manages memory to maximize it's usage. Empty RAM is wasted RAM. Android will keep recently used apps, or apps that you use frequently, in RAM whenever possible, so that they're available without having to be loaded from ROM. If another app needs the RAM those apps are using, Android will close the app in use and free up the RAM for reuse. Unused RAM won't make your apps any faster, and will only slow down task-switching.
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not sure you read what I wrote, I am using the cable that came with the S7E and the AC adapter that came with the S7E. Using the same chargers, sans cable as it is different, as the Note 7. This phone is horrible at charging, the note 7 charged like my iphone, extremely fast.
Just wanting to see if others experience the same or not. Have a car adapter and a portable charger that both output 2 amps, both charged the note 7 fast. The S7E charges like molasses.
I understand how android should manage ram, but this phone lags something awful. It freezes constantly, I've actually never owned an android phone that has ever had ram usage so high. I don't mind the delay in opening apps, I despise the constant lag while doing anything more than loading a basic web page. The Note 7 has the same processor/ram no? It was so much smoother, so much faster and ram usage so much lower. The ram being high concerns me something not showing up in debugging is causing my phone to eat battery like a hog. It just would have to be something in the samsung OS.
I am assuming that my issues with this phone are abnormal then. I'll probably try a restore at some point soon and go from there. I would rather have risked the Note 7 exploding than have this phone lol. It's such an insane disappointment from day to day usage aspect in comparison because of this.
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not sure you read what I wrote, I am using the cable that came with the S7E and the AC adapter that came with the S7E. Using the same chargers, sans cable as it is different, as the Note 7. This phone is horrible at charging, the note 7 charged like my iphone, extremely fast.
Just wanting to see if others experience the same or not. Have a car adapter and a portable charger that both output 2 amps, both charged the note 7 fast. The S7E charges like molasses.
I understand how android should manage ram, but this phone lags something awful. It freezes constantly, I've actually never owned an android phone that has ever had ram usage so high. I don't mind the delay in opening apps, I despise the constant lag while doing anything more than loading a basic web page. The Note 7 has the same processor/ram no? It was so much smoother, so much faster and ram usage so much lower. The ram being high concerns me something not showing up in debugging is causing my phone to eat battery like a hog. It just would have to be something in the samsung OS.
I am assuming that my issues with this phone are abnormal then. I'll probably try a restore at some point soon and go from there. I would rather have risked the Note 7 exploding than have this phone lol. It's such an insane disappointment from day to day usage aspect in comparison because of this.
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I suspect you've got some corruption somewhere that a factory reset may cure. The S7e is very robust and battery life is excellent. If you can hold off, Nougat should be pushed out in January, do a factory reset then to clean out any residue files.
Going from Nexus 6 to priv is something I'm finally considering now that the are worth the same amount. Wouldn't have been an option a year ago, but now that Verizon allows hotspot on unlimited it finally is. Only have three concerns: Is the screen big enough for watching videos for like an hour or two like the Nexus? Is the snapdragon 808 really laggy compared to the 805? (Been reading reviews stating that) Lastly, is the single front firing speaker loud enough?
Well I have received my BlackBerry PRIV and is it just me or is the charging take forever? Plus it is always hot to the touch and gives an overheating warning when downloading apps?
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Well I have received my BlackBerry PRIV and is it just me or is the charging take forever? Plus it is always hot to the touch and gives an overheating warning when downloading apps?
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The stock charger is about 1 amp, so its really takes a long time for the Priv's 3400 MAH battery. The best thing is to get a faster charger. Nice thing about the Priv and Nexus 6 it comes with wireless charging. But if you go that route be sure you DO get a fast wireless charger, like Qualcomm 2.0, or it will take FOREVER to charge.
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The stock charger is about 1 amp, so its really takes a long time for the Priv's 3400 MAH battery. The best thing is to get a faster charger. Nice thing about the Priv and Nexus 6 it comes with wireless charging. But if you go that route be sure you DO get a fast wireless charger, like Qualcomm 2.0, or it will take FOREVER to charge.
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I think I failed to mention this, but I was using the stock Motorola Nexus 6 charger that is quick charge compatible and still experienced slow charging times. It may partially be the slightly larger battery, but I think the real issue with charging was overheating. It got better once the phone stopped updating apps. Though speaking of overheating, I have to say, I haven't seen a phone sit out in the sun for 10 minutes and overheat to the point of being hot to the touch and disabling all network connections since my Droid razr m lol. At least it seems like the priv will make a nice handwarmer for the winter. (Maybe seeing a connection where there isn't one, but the razr m had a Kevlar back to it that had a similar feel to the priv, I wonder if those black rubbery materials are a poor choice for a phone due to heat issues?)
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I think I failed to mention this, but I was using the stock Motorola Nexus 6 charger that is quick charge compatible and still experienced slow charging times. It may partially be the slightly larger battery, but I think the real issue with charging was overheating. It got better once the phone stopped updating apps. Though speaking of overheating, I have to say, I haven't seen a phone sit out in the sun for 10 minutes and overheat to the point of being hot to the touch and disabling all network connections since my Droid razr m lol. At least it seems like the priv will make a nice handwarmer for the winter. (Maybe seeing a connection where there isn't one, but the razr m had a Kevlar back to it that had a similar feel to the priv, I wonder if those black rubbery materials are a poor choice for a phone due to heat issues?)
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I have a wireless Pleson Fast Charger. At first it took 20+ hours (probably longer than that, but I wasn't going to wait around) to charge from 30%. So it turn's out I wasn't using the right wall-wart (it seems most wireless chargers don't provide a wall unit, just a USB cable), and I was just using whatever I had on hand. Once I got a proper wallwart, I can go from 20% in about 3-4hrs. Heat is definitely an issue, especially with the Priv. I wish I can find that article and link it for you, but essentially it said its better for the Li-Ion battery to charge in short in bursts (like 10-30 minutes) rather than one long fell swoop (like over night charging) because of the heat. And heat is bad for a overall battery life cycle. I don't now about you, but I'm not looking forward to swapping out my battery. That one is going to be a major surgery
You're right that the Priv makes for a great hand-warmer, which is why its part of my EDC. Too bad I live in Arizona :/
With my aging Nexus 6 coming to the end of its lifespan as a daily carry device, I've been looking for other devices. Looking into the Google Pixel 3 / 3 XL or OnePlus 6T, both phones have a few issues of concern that will likely require compromise from the Pixel's lack of RAM for a flagship as well as the OP6T's lack of wireless charging. I will never understand how OnePlus has such a grudge against Qi charging as an option; simply because it is not as fast as a USB connected "Dash" charge (unsure why they won't use the standard Qualcomm quick charging spec that many devices uses) doesn't mean it isn't desirable, as I've been charging my phones predominantly via wireless Qi since the Nexus 4 days!
However, I was wondering if interested enthusiasts could remedy OnePlus' oversight with a Wireless Qi mod? After market, latest-generation Qi receivers are apparently plentiful and inexpensive (I'd worry of suspect quality in some cases) , but many seem the type to be placed on the rear of the chassis inside a case and connect to the USB plug. They can also be placed inside the phone itself, but still make the connection via the bottom USB port. While neither of these are entirely disqualifying, it would be much better if there was a way to connect the Qi receiver internally, leaving the USB port accessible. Back in the days of the earlier Galaxy devices, I can remember there used to be receivers mounted internally in certain devices - https://www.amazon.com/VILIGHT-Wire...1790504&sr=8-24&keywords=wireless+qi+receiver - is one example, thanks to the way the battery and layout of the phone is set up.
Perhaps something similar could be done for the OnePlus 6T? Does anyone know the feasibility regarding the internal layout of the 6T? If we are not lucky enough to just be able to tap into a few connections, could there be some sort of (ideally solder free) mod done with relative ease? Perhaps there is something else I'm not considering, but I assume it all hinges on the internals of the 6T.
Its insane that users should need to consider a mod in order to add such a common feature in flagship or even mid-grade phones, but if there's a relatively good chance of a mod like this it would encourage me to look closer at OnePlus this time around. Thanks.
Watch jerryrigeverything's video on YouTube?
RanceJustice said:
With my aging Nexus 6 coming to the end of its lifespan as a daily carry device, I've been looking for other devices. Looking into the Google Pixel 3 / 3 XL or OnePlus 6T, both phones have a few issues of concern that will likely require compromise from the Pixel's lack of RAM for a flagship as well as the OP6T's lack of wireless charging. I will never understand how OnePlus has such a grudge against Qi charging as an option; simply because it is not as fast as a USB connected "Dash" charge (unsure why they won't use the standard Qualcomm quick charging spec that many devices uses) doesn't mean it isn't desirable, as I've been charging my phones predominantly via wireless Qi since the Nexus 4 days!
However, I was wondering if interested enthusiasts could remedy OnePlus' oversight with a Wireless Qi mod? After market, latest-generation Qi receivers are apparently plentiful and inexpensive (I'd worry of suspect quality in some cases) , but many seem the type to be placed on the rear of the chassis inside a case and connect to the USB plug. They can also be placed inside the phone itself, but still make the connection via the bottom USB port. While neither of these are entirely disqualifying, it would be much better if there was a way to connect the Qi receiver internally, leaving the USB port accessible. Back in the days of the earlier Galaxy devices, I can remember there used to be receivers mounted internally in certain devices - https://www.amazon.com/VILIGHT-Wire...1790504&sr=8-24&keywords=wireless+qi+receiver - is one example, thanks to the way the battery and layout of the phone is set up.
Perhaps something similar could be done for the OnePlus 6T? Does anyone know the feasibility regarding the internal layout of the 6T? If we are not lucky enough to just be able to tap into a few connections, could there be some sort of (ideally solder free) mod done with relative ease? Perhaps there is something else I'm not considering, but I assume it all hinges on the internals of the 6T.
Its insane that users should need to consider a mod in order to add such a common feature in flagship or even mid-grade phones, but if there's a relatively good chance of a mod like this it would encourage me to look closer at OnePlus this time around. Thanks.
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I bought the Nillkin Type C Wireless Charging Receiver from amazon and stuck inside the case that came with the phone. I had bought another case on amazon but that one was too thick to get a QI signal to go through. The charging is ok, not the fastest tho.
I am looking at getting this. Former Nexus 6 user myself. Someone already mentioned this, but here is the amazon link:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BFCBPJ...&pd_rd_r=1a965010-e45d-11e8-bc94-f9678d2f68d0
other option:
https://www.amazon.com/Nillkin-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-Charger/dp/B01M11UT3V
I have the nillkin on my OP6. Since I always use a case, it's a non-issue to stick the charge pad inside the case.
Thank you all for the links to reliable plug-in Qi receivers; if I go with the OP6T I may end up getting one of those if there's no other alternative. User reports and feedback on Amazon suggest these are pretty delicate in how they're bent and the like, so I am curious if anyone is unplugging/replugging them (to connect to the USB port for some other reason) with reasonable frequency without issue?
I've not seen any content from "jerryrigeverything" on YouTube but I'll check it out when I'm able to do so.
The big question however is the viability of an internal Qi receiver installation that does not require plugging in via the external USB jack....
Thanks!
RanceJustice said:
Thank you all for the links to reliable plug-in Qi receivers; if I go with the OP6T I may end up getting one of those if there's no other alternative. User reports and feedback on Amazon suggest these are pretty delicate in how they're bent and the like, so I am curious if anyone is unplugging/replugging them (to connect to the USB port for some other reason) with reasonable frequency without issue?
I've not seen any content from "jerryrigeverything" on YouTube but I'll check it out when I'm able to do so.
The big question however is the viability of an internal Qi receiver installation that does not require plugging in via the external USB jack....
Thanks!
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You will need to remove the back which is glass and do internal soldering.
Pass.
I've loved wireless charging on the n6. And was bummed about it missing on the 6t. But honestly battery life is so insanely good on the 6t. I mean insane! And it charges so fast, I don't feel the desire to get wireless charging anymore. I kid you not. Battery life and charging are fantastic compared to the Nexus 6.
I'm down to 38% and it's been 23 hours since I took it off the charger.
I have been using the nillkin since I got phone. I had a note 8 and used wireless exclusively. So once I got the 6t I have been doing the same. The battery life on this phone is so good I just charge once a day. I go to sleep lay it on wireless charger and wake up to 100%. No messing around with cables. It also charges just as fast as the fast wireless charging on my note 8.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M11UT3V?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Just got this and it's working very well
USB C Qi Wireless Charger Receiver, sharllen Universal Ultra Thin Charging Adapter Receptor Receiver Patch Module Chip iPhone 7 7Plus, iPhone 6 6Plus, iPhone 5 5s 5c SE - Rose Gold https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CSQ43X2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_rhK5BbC3RQZQB
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Has anybody with one of these noticed any issues with heat?
I have an aftermarket Qi adapter attached to the battery of my Samsung S5 phone and whether with an old or a new battery, the phone generates a lot of heat when charging from a low battery state. I've been concerned about overheating the processor.
Nsane457 said:
Has anybody with one of these noticed any issues with heat?
I have an aftermarket Qi adapter attached to the battery of my Samsung S5 phone and whether with an old or a new battery, the phone generates a lot of heat when charging from a low battery state. I've been concerned about overheating the processor.
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QI Charging (any charging for that matter) is going to generate heat,more so on slow QI Charging.
It takes longer & there's no heat pipe/paste in the OP6T to aid in dissipating the heat. (see video teardown,FF to the 1:30 mark):
I always use a small desktop fan near my charging points at home.
I'm not a battery conserving hawk or handle my phones as if they're priceless museum pieces,but,a small fan is any easy to use solution & in cooling the phone,may actually speed up the charging process a bit.
I have a couple that have worked previously, but couldn't for the life of me get them working on my OP6. I've ordered an OP6T so hopefully will be able to get it working when it arrives.
I have a strange issue with the QI Receiver i bought from Ali express. When i put the Qi Receiver on the back of the phone and put it on a charging pad, i can see the battery percentage goes up all the way to 100% but the phone never thinks that its getting charged. I mean the charging symbol never comes up and even BBS and other Battery Monitor apps don't think its getting charged. But the percentage reaches 100. Does anyone know a solution for this issue
ozzmanj1 said:
I've loved wireless charging on the n6. And was bummed about it missing on the 6t. But honestly battery life is so insanely good on the 6t. I mean insane! And it charges so fast, I don't feel the desire to get wireless charging anymore. I kid you not. Battery life and charging are fantastic compared to the Nexus 6.
I'm down to 38% and it's been 23 hours since I took it off the charger.
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I had wireless charging on a few devices previous to my OnePlus 6t and loved it. When I'm using OOS 10.3.8 and xXx magisk rom I charge my phone once every two days and I'm a HEAVY user!! I usually get about seven hours screen on time on my 6t!!! Insane battery is right!! I do miss wireless charging though. Appreciate everyone sharing here. I may try some things out as well. If and when I do I'll return and comment about it. Cheers.