[DISCUSSION] ROMs and Development - LG K7 Guides, News, & Discussion

This thread is for users to exchange information regarding development for the LG K7
As we all know, there are no working custom roms for the LG K7. It's a real shame because that's just what this device needs.
I would like to revive this community and give a glimpse of hope for a custom rom. The community around this phone is no longer thriving like it was a year ago. Anyone willing to create some projects is welcome to discuss on this thread.

I would be interested in helping with development if I actually knew anything about porting roms. Seeing how most unofficial rom ports have basic stuff like the camera, GPS, or sometimes even WiFi completely broken I highly doubt I'd be able to provide the fixes for those if they arise. Best I could do would be to find already made patches for a phone using a similar configuration, and even then I'd more then likely have to go in and tweak a few things.
If you can provide me with easy to use tools for this sort of thing I'd be more then willing to help, and even then I can't really afford to lose functionality of my phone for even a day, so can't really test stuff on actual hardware for you

bulletfreak said:
I would be interested in helping with development if I actually knew anything about porting roms. Seeing how most unofficial rom ports have basic stuff like the camera, GPS, or sometimes even WiFi completely broken I highly doubt I'd be able to provide the fixes for those if they arise. Best I could do would be to find already made patches for a phone using a similar configuration, and even then I'd more then likely have to go in and tweak a few things.
If you can provide me with easy to use tools for this sort of thing I'd be more then willing to help, and even then I can't really afford to lose functionality of my phone for even a day, so can't really test stuff on actual hardware for you
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See, the LG K7 doesn't even have a basic rom like that. We need a place to start. I also don't have a clue of how to fix problems like that. I also don't have the proper hardware and software to make a rom myself.

Billybobjoe13245 said:
See, the LG K7 doesn't even have a basic rom like that. We need a place to start. I also don't have a clue of how to fix problems like that. I also don't have the proper hardware and software to make a rom myself.
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Will be porting LOS 14.1 for K7. Working on a similar device now - LG K10 (MS428).

pvineeth97 said:
Will be porting LOS 14.1 for K7. Working on a similar device now - LG K10 (MS428).
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I wish you luck! That would be great

Can't wait!
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pvineeth97 said:
Will be porting LOS 14.1 for K7. Working on a similar device now - LG K10 (MS428).
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Can you make one for the LGMS330 model aswell please.

I am working on LineageOS for LG K7 (MetroPCS variant as of now). It's still a WIP and most things are broken. Hopefully I can come up with a worthwhile build soon.

EdwinMoq said:
I am working on LineageOS for LG K7 (MetroPCS variant as of now). It's still a WIP and most things are broken. Hopefully I can come up with a worthwhile build soon.
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Nice man! If you need any help or anything, ask and maybe I can provide.

EdwinMoq said:
I am working on LineageOS for LG K7 (MetroPCS variant as of now). It's still a WIP and most things are broken. Hopefully I can come up with a worthwhile build soon.
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What's all broken? And when do you plan on releasing it for public testing?

bulletfreak said:
What's all broken? And when do you plan on releasing it for public testing?
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RIL, camera, sensors, etc. are mostly broken. Not really usable as of yet.

EdwinMoq said:
RIL, camera, sensors, etc. are mostly broken. Not really usable as of yet.
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Yeah the camera and GPS seem to always be broken in unofficial roms, I'd imagine they're hard to find drivers for. Hope you figure it out man

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RIL, camera, sensors, etc. are mostly broken. Not really usable as of yet.
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Any updates so far?

Hope I could be of any help
EdwinMoq said:
RIL, camera, sensors, etc. are mostly broken. Not really usable as of yet.
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I have a LG K7 permanently rooted looking for some fun so if you need the help I'm happy to help. My fingers are itching to get into some action. I just recently turned my attention back to my K7,since everone in the ZMAX Pro community wants to fuss and fight instead of finding out root. I'm ready to help as of yesterday, so let me know.

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EdwinMoq said:
RIL, camera, sensors, etc. are mostly broken. Not really usable as of yet.
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I'd be willing to help on this too, but it looks like you probably abandoned development, which is sad because this thing's probably never going to run anything newer then 5.1.1 unless you can come through on this.

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Info about cm13 for the G2

Hey guys, most of us know that cm13 is in the works for our beloved G2, but I don't think many of us know anything about the development.
Do any of you have any information about how the development is going?
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Do any of you have any information about how the development is going?
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http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/project:CyanogenMod/android_device_lge_g2-common
If anyone knows more thing about development please tell me if rashed and the team are getting close to make the ROM boot.
Any info is helpful for all of us so please, we don't need flame between us.
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It looks like it builds + it boots. Not sure if radio is working
obvious said:
It looks like it builds + it boots. Not sure if radio is working
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Where did you find the build? and is it up for the T-Mobile version?
I'm actually trying to build CM13 for the G2, launch the "brunch" command 15 minutes ago, will see how it ends.. But already tried today, ends up with an error.
Again, an error.
casual_kikoo said:
I'm actually trying to build CM13 for the G2, launch the "brunch" command 15 minutes ago, will see how it ends.. But already tried today, ends up with an error.
Again, an error.
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Is it going to work this time?
casual_kikoo said:
Is it going to work this time?
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soooo?
Suxsem said:
soooo?
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No, unfortunately... This time I got an error about "No private recovery resources for TARGET_DEVICE", I made some research and don't find anything explicit. I'll try more this week, but I work, so I can't do as much as I did last week-end. Also, I think @Rashed97 is the maintainer on github, so every progress came from him. We also have to wait until we have all necessary files. But I'll try again and again, don't worry dude !
so excited for trying marshmallow on g2
there's some temporary commits on gerrit, which fixes cm-13.0 build for g2.
But, as I said, they're temporary. When cm13 gets the cm12.1 features, these commits won't be needed.
Great Daniel, thanks! There is a chance that you could share an alpha cm13 with us? just for curiosity of course, I'm expecting that most isn't working at the moment
The reason no one has posted builds yet is because cm13 is unusable as a daily driver. RIL isnt fully working and I don't know what else is broken since I don't use it much. When it's stable enough, then we'll start distributing test builds.
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Ok i get it. I asked because maybe some developer get interested in the project and joins the team. anyway, thanks for your time as always
Suxsem said:
Ok i get it. I asked because maybe some developer get interested in the project and joins the team. anyway, thanks for your time as always
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I think we are just getting excited including me. This little phone has gone a long way. They are working hard, seems like new activity on the commits every day. I think we all appreciate the work and its hard to contain ourselves especially when we start seeing all the development activity. Seems to happen every release cycle, patience versus readiness. Look forward to the build when it's ready, I think they will give us something good.
Oh my, i want android m on my lg g2 so bad
Can't wait for it!
Rashed97 said:
The reason no one has posted builds yet is because cm13 is unusable as a daily driver. RIL isnt fully working and I don't know what else is broken since I don't use it much. When it's stable enough, then we'll start distributing test builds.
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Thank you so much for your efforts and hard work! All my respect man!
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And.... Any developer (if it is possible) can give us an approximate percentage of the develop of the rom? 20%? 50%?
LuisArmstrong said:
And.... Any developer (if it is possible) can give us an approximate percentage of the develop of the rom? 20%? 50%?
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Its really hard for the devs to know how far they are let's say they get most the bugs out but one then when they try and fix that one bug other bugs come around only to make things worse but let's hope that like last year it'll be mid November for the new android to start rolling out for us.
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Its really hard for the devs to know how far they are let's say they get most the bugs out but one then when they try and fix that one bug other bugs come around only to make things worse but let's hope that like last year it'll be mid November for the new android to start rolling out for us.
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That sounds like 25% for me
Lets keep waiting
Long life to Developers

Is the OP2 not compatible with Marshmellow?

I mean, whats the hold up OP?
OP2 certainly is compatible with Marshmallow , you can already see many MM based ROMs :what::what:
SysAdmNj said:
I mean, whats the hold up OP?
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I don't think a person with this post count can ask this question.
bonnygeorgea said:
OP2 certainly is compatible with Marshmallow , you can already see many MM based ROMs :what::what:
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I meant official release.
krishna442 said:
I don't think a person with this post count can ask this question.
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Of course I can, I can ask anything I want actually
Yes, you can ask, but nobody should answer you this.
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How can a flagship can be compatible with only 1 version of Android?
There's already HydroOS 6 for testing out there
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Of course I can, I can ask anything I want actually
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But I guess you're not a newbie to android. Anyway. It's compatible. OnePlus said the release will be in Q1. So it should be there before March.
I don't know what takes them so long. Their OS is almost all stock android except for few customisations.
syl0n said:
I don't know what takes them so long. Their OS is almost all stock android except for few customisations.
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drivers, optimizations, bug testing, security, enhancements, adding skins also Google certification!
Yeah exactly. OOS is near stock. Moto g3 is running MM but we're still waiting :/ and should probably wait till the last day of the Q1. Or probably they'll miss even that date and come up with an apology letter like they always do :/
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Yeah exactly. OOS is near stock. Moto g3 is running MM but we're still waiting :/ and should probably wait till the last day of the Q1. Or probably they'll miss even that date and come up with an apology letter like they always do :/
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"Like they always do". It happened once and it was their first time, I don't know of they will make it right now, I hope so...
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SysAdmNj said:
I meant official release.
Of course I can, I can ask anything I want actually
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That's a good answer! Xda is for everyone, not just developers out there! If there are no common people, then to whom the developers develop?,!
krishna442 said:
drivers, optimizations, bug testing, security, enhancements, adding skins also Google certification!
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I am pretty sure drivers are written usually by the hardware makers, so that'd be Qualcomm for the SoC or whoever made the fingerprint sensor, camera, other sensors etc. Skins - I ain't seen much skinning by OPO except for changing the dark mode and colour of stuff when in dark mode. Security - this is why they need to release latest android, because google is fixing 100's of issues.
Anyway I am shocked that even the slow manufacturers like LG have upped their game and have 6.0 and Samsung has leaked theirs too. I usually wouldn't care but custom ROMs not that attractive without Fingerprint sensor and Laser AF.
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I am pretty sure drivers are written usually by the hardware makers, so that'd be Qualcomm for the SoC or whoever made the fingerprint sensor, camera, other sensors etc. Skins - I ain't seen much skinning by OPO except for changing the dark mode and colour of stuff when in dark mode. Security - this is why they need to release latest android, because google is fixing 100's of issues.
Anyway I am shocked that even the slow manufacturers like LG have upped their game and have 6.0 and Samsung has leaked theirs too. I usually wouldn't care but custom ROMs not that attractive without Fingerprint sensor and Laser AF.
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We have leaked marshmallow ROM too!
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For the ones who agree, I find it a little suspicious it is taking them this long. Its not a good sign.
SysAdmNj said:
For the ones who agree, I find it a little suspicious it is taking them this long. Its not a good sign.
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they either make it or break with OPT. screw this up, then the rest will be history.
teeluun said:
they either make it or break with OPT. screw this up, then the rest will be history.
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This is most likely my last op device, I just cant settle.

Calling all G5 Devs

Development seems to be either dead or slow moving for this device... I have many years experience in the Android world and would like to offer my assistance. While I am unable to compile my own software/ROMs, I am very well versed with fixing issues and bug finding. Let me help you test? I'm not afraid to brick my device (tho I would like to avoid that if possible). Testing results turnaround time in the past has been within 24 hours or less. I use my phone daily for work and personal use so I'm consistently on it. Let's get this ball rolling! How can I help you?!
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Development seems to be either dead or slow moving for this device... I have many years experience in the Android world and would like to offer my assistance. While I am unable to compile my own software/ROMs, I am very well versed with fixing issues and bug finding. Let me help you test? I'm not afraid to brick my device (tho I would like to avoid that if possible). Testing results turnaround time in the past has been within 24 hours or less. I use my phone daily for work and personal use so I'm consistently on it. Let's get this ball rolling! How can I help you?!
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Please check out what i have been working on, any help is appreciated!
bye bye G5. Hello OnePlus 3!
Good things come to those who wait. I'm sticking it through the rough times. This device has potential.
kwkw480 said:
bye bye G5. Hello OnePlus 3!
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I'll take "Stuff nobody else gives a hoot about" for 500 Alex!
jxxxr1 said:
Good things come to those who wait. I'm sticking it through the rough times. This device has potential.
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Same here ... I know it's all in the works and will wait it out :good:
Nimueh said:
I'll take "Stuff nobody else gives a hoot about" for 500 Alex!
Same here ... I know it's all in the works and will wait it out :good:
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lol you're right, sir. sorry for posting non-sense in this thread.
I m really looking forward to seeing lg g5 developing community grow
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Im glad someone got a thread going on this. I would just like someone to compile a kernel with overclock and screen mod. I have a powerful enough machine to run vmware as a buildbox and can run linux command but need someone with experience to simplify the process a bit.
Same. I'm relatively comfortable with linux and can have VM sandboxes running to test myself if I can get a G5 image to run in a VM.
Does anyone have the unlock.bin file that LG has given to the unlocked variants? I'd like to look through it.
Any of you guys had a look at row hammer and dirty cow exploit
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LSD DREAMER said:
Any of you guys had a look at row hammer and dirty cow exploit
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Take a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/dirtycow-test-t3487356
DirtyCow should root all android, so far root non of them
I think really exciting times are coming our G5's way. This phone has great potential but it's so underrated. I had the op3 but G5 is much better.
We have resurrection remix, cm13, cm14 on the way, aicp, amazing fluence patch, genisys Rom and patch etc. I can see some more great development in the future

K30 PRO kernel source released

https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/lmi-q-oss
Let the development start!
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Edit: new code dropped at https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/cas-q-oss
Great news good to see some development may start soon hopefully.
It's been available for a while, as you can see the most recent commit is in March. However, the source tree is not completed. It's one of the reasons for the lack of development.
huyhung411991 said:
It's been available for a while, as you can see the most recent commit is in March. However, the source tree is not completed. It's one of the reasons for the lack of development.
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what's missing in code?
espaciosalter20 said:
what's missing in code?
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Camera device tree is missing and audio driver is broken.
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Better hope that Android 11 source will be better when it's released.
huyhung411991 said:
Camera device tree is missing and audio driver is broken.
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As long as the kernel can boot the phone we can use it as a starting point, right? Also 3rd party ROM can use stock kernel extracted from MIUI.
mrmathematica said:
As long as the kernel can boot the phone we can use it as a starting point, right? Also 3rd party ROM can use stock kernel extracted from MIUI.
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That, along with some other reasons, is why till now there is no rom.
would there be someone who would be able to make a custom rom from the kernel
if there is a person who makes you i would be very grateful
is there a possibility that it looks as much like stock Android as possible?
because miui bug a lot
and it's an interface
user i don't like
luuxis said:
would there be someone who would be able to make a custom rom from the kernel
if there is a person who makes you i would be very grateful
is there a possibility that it looks as much like stock Android as possible?
because miui bug a lot
and it's an interface
user i don't like
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Some devs are working on it. I don't know any details, except it would take some time. The best thing normal users like us can do is be patient.
Dear developers!!!
You people always made our life easy by giving beautiful ROMs for our devices..
A lot of respect for you!!!
Kindly make some ROMs for our this device too
We'll be very thankful..
@markakash & @peaktogoo are working on it. so just be patient
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Some devs are working on it. I don't know any details, except it would take some time. The best thing normal users like us can do is be patient.
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yes I understand but wouldn't there be a site where we can see the progress of the development ???
luuxis said:
yes I understand but wouldn't there be a site where we can see the progress of the development ???
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Devs have lives too, and this is just the thing they do in their free time, so they work at their own pace. Not every devs want to report everything, nor do they have to.
Things will get released when they are ready. Rushing the devs will just increase the chance that they will abandon everything.
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Devs have lives too, and this is just the thing they do in their free time, so they work at their own pace. Not every devs want to report everything, nor do they have to.
Things will get released when they are ready. Rushing the devs will just increase the chance that they will abandon everything.
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so if I understand correctly
it can come out tomorrow
or never go out that's it ??
suddenly you have to wait for news
and for people who are not at all patient maybe they can try to do it themselves
what if i try to make a custom rom myself
what is the risk of my phone if i do something wrong?
luuxis said:
so if I understand correctly
it can come out tomorrow
or never go out that's it ??
suddenly you have to wait for news
and for people who are not at all patient maybe they can try to do it themselves
what if i try to make a custom rom myself
Princ
what is the risk of my phone if i do something wrong?
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At least every now and then, they let us know they're still working on it.
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Some devs are working on it. I don't know any details, except it would take some time. The best thing normal users like us can do is be patient.
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Nice to hear thanks for the info !
huyhung411991 said:
What's the problem with that then? They don't work for you or me, they don't have any responsibility to develop the rom. They don't ask you to wait for the news, they don't ask you to risk damaging your phone. You have to take responsibility for your decisions, don't you?
At least every now and then, they let us know they're still working on it. Isn't that enough for you?
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no you didn't understand I know that developing it takes time I am the developer of the craftdium.ml software if you know and I know very well that it takes time I wanted to know if I am making the custom rom my phone risks what?
Personally, I don't like MIUI, nor MIUI based Roms: eu, ROS, mix, etc.
I think it's worth to wait a while, even one month, for install a decent AOSP based ROM on this brilliant hardware. I made that on my Mi Max 3 and I am very happy now with the phone.
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@markakash & @peaktogoo are working on it. so just be patient
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For real? Would be awesome
I just came here to say that my poco just arrived to my home and I am patiently waiting for some AOSP rom

Porting the OOS camera to custom ROMs.

Hi all,
Have jumped ship a few times to custom ROMs and have came back each time due to limitations of the cameras.
Yes there is Gcam. However the video isn't right. Slow motion is non existent (at least to the level that you'd call usable)
Third party apps don't seem to cut it either.
The Nokia APK does a great job at stills and video but again no slow motion and you cannot use 48MP.
So my question...
Does anyone know what is required to in normal circumstances, get the OnePlus camera to run?
Libs and framwork, etc? And can we obtain them in some way? To give them a whirl against a custom ROM? Even if it's just partial functionality, it would give us a starting point.
Cheers
My previous OnePlus phones never has successful story about this too.
May be some Devs know why this is not possible.
ps000000 said:
My previous OnePlus phones never has successful story about this too.
May be some Devs know why this is not possible.
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I'd never say impossible, just think that the ever changing firmware and updates to ROMs may cause too much grief, plus because (I think) that the framework is required it may be a pain in the backside
There is an awesome dev called @AEonAX in Xiaomi devices. S/he managed to port stock Xiaomi camera to custom AOSP based ROMs. Maybe s/he can figure out the things if has a chance/free time to do that.
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There is an awesome dev called @AEonAX in Xiaomi devices. S/he managed to port stock Xiaomi camera to custom AOSP based ROMs. Maybe s/he can figure out the things if has a chance/free time to do that.
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That'd be amazing, the device sorely needs it.. Having moved back to OOS I can safely say that the difference is night and day.
Hi @dladz .
I saw you mentioned about the Nokia Cam. Is that works on live bokeh? If yes, could you please tell me what is the cam version?
Thanks
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Hi @dladz .
I saw you mentioned about the Nokia Cam. Is that works on live bokeh? If yes, could you please tell me what is the cam version?
Thanks
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Sorry mate I've actually deleted it. But iirc the live bokeh did work.
It was a link on XDA, haven't got the APK no more as I didn't need it anymore.
Have a Google for it won't be hard to find.
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[APP][8.0+][Universal] Nokia Camera 91.9.1130.40 with Pro Mode and Animojis ENABLED
Nokia Camera 91.9.1130.40-9558b747 with Pro Mode and Animojis ENABLED TTSIA, and WYSIWYG. The title says it all, and what you see is what you get. It has enabled Pro Mode, Animojis and more features, for any device that supports Level...
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Slow motion didn't work but if you choose slow motion, it will do a great 60fps video
dladz said:
That'd be amazing, the device sorely needs it.. Having moved back to OOS I can safely say that the difference is night and day.
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I don't have an OP device. So can't do anything about it
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I don't have an OP device. So can't do anything about it
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No worries man, not you're responsibility..
It's definitely needed but without a device I'd imagine it'd be a colossal ballache.
If you were interested in giving it a whirl and needed testers..
I think I and many many others would be more than happy to assist.
PS: I say this with no idea of what's involved, so please don't judge me.
I think even with the volume of people now currently using the device, a bounty might even be a real possibility.
Dunno?
Anyway thanks for reading and reaching out all the same.
This is one of those things that stops me from leaving OOS on my OP8Pro.
OnePlus should release the Camera app on play store, like Google does. The gcam from play store just works on Pixel devices with LOS18.1 without any glitches.
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This is one of those things that stops me from leaving OOS on my OP8Pro.
OnePlus should release the Camera app on play store, like Google does. The gcam from play store just works on Pixel devices with LOS18.1 without any glitches.
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Couldn't agree more..
Strange that a company can go from actually advertising usage of twrp to this in a few short years.
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I think even with the volume of people now currently using the device, a bounty might even be a real possibility.
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Bounty program can be good i think. Are there any xda moderators to talk about that? If that thing okay, I think we can collect some money with paypal/cryptos to deliver the first dev who figure things out.
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Bounty program can be good i think. Are there any xda moderators to talk about that? If that thing okay, I think we can collect some money with paypal/cryptos to deliver the first dev who figure things out.
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Yea could be good.
Usually people pledge money to get it done.. then pay up then it's fulfilled
If 50 people pledge a few quid each then there's a few hundred £££s to get it done.
Only issue I can foresee would be the terms of maintaining it .
I'm not sure if it works for one it'll work for another.
Havoc OS has OOS cam baked in now. Join their telegram group.
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Havoc OS has OOS cam baked in now. Join their telegram group.
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That's amazing
will the pro builds go online again?
serial1005 said:
will the pro builds go online again?
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?? For Evo X. You would have to ask in that that thread dude

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