Good afternoon,
So after seeing a bunch of videos and out of boredom I ordered almost all the pieces to make the switch. Was amazed by how simple it was until I noticed that the OTG cable was not supported by the Nexus 7? And that to my understanding I would have to root and install a custom rom in order to do this?
Well I did some research and found timurs rom and installed it. Well noticed gapps wasn't installed. Went to install gapps then I spent an entire Saturday trying to get it to work with no avail. I'm not skilled in this line of work. Alot of the articles I'm finding are from 2012 -14.
Just wanna make sure I'm making the right steps not sure if there has been a new way of doing this or possibly an easier method? Would greatly appreciate it if someone could assist with this.
I would love to have GAPPS on which ever ROM will give me the requirements to install the Nexus as my head unit. Im just not entirely sure how to get it to work proplery. I apologize for my lack of knowledge in advance.
List of parts
-nexus 7 (wifi)
-radio harness
-otg
-usb hub
-dac (behringer UCA222)
As well as some other misc items such has a volume knob, just awaiting the Amplifier.
Thank you for your time, hopefully someone can help me with this :good:
So from what I've gathered Autodroid is the newest rom, just downloaded it. Will be giving it a shot tonight. If someone could help me with Google apps and installing it on there that would be awesome!!!
BlackenWkN7714 said:
So from what I've gathered Autodroid is the newest rom, just downloaded it. Will be giving it a shot tonight. If someone could help me with Google apps and installing it on there that would be awesome!!!
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For Autodroid, look for Slim-Addons-mini_gapps.4.4.4.build.9-20150107.zip from Here.
I had issues with OTG+Charging with Autodroid, but the more i have been tweaking and trying different things, I think the high temperatures were what caused the tablet not to charge. Monitoring the battery, I have noticed when the temp is over say 110* F, it will not charge, but will hold the charge and not drain the battery. The lower the temp gets the faster it starts charging.
I would suggest not converting to F2FS if you plan to use OTG. I could not get it to work properly.
I'm currently running LineageOS 14.1 with Powereventmanager 1.8 installed. This has been working well for me the last week or so, but some issues have me wanting to go back to Autodroid. One issue i've noticed lately with LineageOS is the sound quality doesn't seem as good as Autodroid. It sounds decent for my factory system, but what bugs me is the volume control is not sensitive enough, its either way too loud or too quiet. There may be ways to fix this though, as i have not had time to research a fix. I dont run a DAC, I run my tablet via bluetooth to a headunit hid behind the tablet, so you may not have this issue.
Another issue i have is with PowerEventManager. It will put the tablet to deep sleep, but usually not the first time i turn the ignition off. I have to turn the ignition back on then off, then it will trigger powereventmanger. No big deal, but is a pain since i have to constantly make sure it does go to sleep.
You can also add the volume control buttons to the nav bar through the "buttons" setting. You can add media controls too. This works well for the most part, but there are times the icons disappear, though the control is still functional. I think this issue is caused by my icon size, but not 100% sure.
B|acknd said:
For Autodroid, look for Slim-Addons-mini_gapps.4.4.4.build.9-20150107.zip from Here.
I had issues with OTG+Charging with Autodroid, but the more i have been tweaking and trying different things, I think the high temperatures were what caused the tablet not to charge. Monitoring the battery, I have noticed when the temp is over say 110* F, it will not charge, but will hold the charge and not drain the battery. The lower the temp gets the faster it starts charging.
I would suggest not converting to F2FS if you plan to use OTG. I could not get it to work properly.
I'm currently running LineageOS 14.1 with Powereventmanager 1.8 installed. This has been working well for me the last week or so, but some issues have me wanting to go back to Autodroid. One issue i've noticed lately with LineageOS is the sound quality doesn't seem as good as Autodroid. It sounds decent for my factory system, but what bugs me is the volume control is not sensitive enough, its either way too loud or too quiet. There may be ways to fix this though, as i have not had time to research a fix. I dont run a DAC, I run my tablet via bluetooth to a headunit hid behind the tablet, so you may not have this issue.
Another issue i have is with PowerEventManager. It will put the tablet to deep sleep, but usually not the first time i turn the ignition off. I have to turn the ignition back on then off, then it will trigger powereventmanger. No big deal, but is a pain since i have to constantly make sure it does go to sleep.
You can also add the volume control buttons to the nav bar through the "buttons" setting. You can add media controls too. This works well for the most part, but there are times the icons disappear, though the control is still functional. I think this issue is caused by my icon size, but not 100% sure.
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Hey thanks for the response!!
I ended up getting timurs rom to work. I attempted to go with Autodroid but it would never load up. Attempted timurs rom and it worked and figured I'd try gapps and finally it worked perfect and I have no issues now.
Now I'm trying to find the best method to incorporate Bluetooth to the car. I'm replacing my entire head unit with the tablet. I wanna be able to play music from my phone and have it come out of the cars speakers.
Any suggestion on that?
BlackenWkN7714 said:
Hey thanks for the response!!
I ended up getting timurs rom to work. I attempted to go with Autodroid but it would never load up. Attempted timurs rom and it worked and figured I'd try gapps and finally it worked perfect and I have no issues now.
Now I'm trying to find the best method to incorporate Bluetooth to the car. I'm replacing my entire head unit with the tablet. I wanna be able to play music from my phone and have it come out of the cars speakers.
Any suggestion on that?
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Autodroid, you have to flash the kangaroo kernel after you flash the rom. there are people that say you have to flash a version of SlimKat and dirty flash Autodroid over it, but i never had to do this.
Check out HeadUnit Reloaded. it is an Android Auto clone. allows you to make a receive calls, stream music from your phone. There is a 5 minute trial, so make sure you have everything set up before you give it a try.
I've been debating on switching to a DAC, just so i can have better volume control. Something about using software buttons for control is just a pain. I've also thought of hard wiring my removable face from the head unit to somewhere it is accessible, but not sure i want to go through the trouble.
Have you thought of just using the phone as a hotspot and using your tablet for everything else? This is what i do and it saves me from having to fidget with my phone all the time.
Another tip for you, though i dont know what DPI Timurs rom is set at, but on AutoDroid I always increased the DPI to make things on screen larger and easier to control, since it is in a vehicle. I believe i had mine set at 230..
I'll be switching back to Autodroid this evening. the bugs i encounter using LineageOS have just been too much to deal with. Worked great for awhile, just need something more stable and worry free.
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Autodroid, you have to flash the kangaroo kernel after you flash the rom. there are people that say you have to flash a version of SlimKat and dirty flash Autodroid over it, but i never had to do this.
Check out HeadUnit Reloaded. it is an Android Auto clone. allows you to make a receive calls, stream music from your phone. There is a 5 minute trial, so make sure you have everything set up before you give it a try.
I've been debating on switching to a DAC, just so i can have better volume control. Something about using software buttons for control is just a pain. I've also thought of hard wiring my removable face from the head unit to somewhere it is accessible, but not sure i want to go through the trouble.
Have you thought of just using the phone as a hotspot and using your tablet for everything else? This is what i do and it saves me from having to fidget with my phone all the time.
Another tip for you, though i dont know what DPI Timurs rom is set at, but on AutoDroid I always increased the DPI to make things on screen larger and easier to control, since it is in a vehicle. I believe i had mine set at 230..
I'll be switching back to Autodroid this evening. the bugs i encounter using LineageOS have just been too much to deal with. Worked great for awhile, just need something more stable and worry free.
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I have thought about being able to supply a hot spot with my note 5. I found ways of getting around it without rooting it but those have seemed to be disabled. Still hoping to come across a simple way of doing it without paying for it or rooting the phone since I'm currently on the "lease program". I plan to keep the phone once I'm finished paying on it so I believe I should have an issue. I just don't wanna end up screwed if for some reason I have to turn it in and I get hit with a large fee since it's rooted.
I will definitely look into that app, can it be connected thru Bluetooth or just wifi? If wifi I will have to wait until I figure out how to make my phone wifi tethering enabled.
Also I though of an idea, I have found the Bluetooth devices for everyday car stereos. Box with usb to charge and an aux to plug into the car audio. My Dac has an input and an output. I'm currently not using the input since it's all thru usb. I'm wondering if I can hook up the $20 Bluetooth piece and then aquire a female 3.5 aux cable to make rca and hook that up to the input on the dac.
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I have thought about being able to supply a hot spot with my note 5. I found ways of getting around it without rooting it but those have seemed to be disabled. Still hoping to come across a simple way of doing it without paying for it or rooting the phone since I'm currently on the "lease program". I plan to keep the phone once I'm finished paying on it so I believe I should have an issue. I just don't wanna end up screwed if for some reason I have to turn it in and I get hit with a large fee since it's rooted.
I will definitely look into that app, can it be connected thru Bluetooth or just wifi? If wifi I will have to wait until I figure out how to make my phone wifi tethering enabled.
Also I though of an idea, I have found the Bluetooth devices for everyday car stereos. Box with usb to charge and an aux to plug into the car audio. My Dac has an input and an output. I'm currently not using the input since it's all thru usb. I'm wondering if I can hook up the $20 Bluetooth piece and then aquire a female 3.5 aux cable to make rca and hook that up to the input on the dac.
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I'm not sure about Bluetooth with Headunit reloaded... you can use USB. To be able to make and receive calls, you have to have it connected to a "Bluetooth headset" according to their page, but i think this is just for phone calls.. I could be wrong though. I've been curious if my head unit would act as a "headset" since my tablet is connected through Bluetooth...
One day I will buy the app and play with it more, I'm just cheap
About your DAC, I dont see why that wouldn't work. I've read of people using stand alone Bluetooth adapters with their DAC. But like i said before I dont know anything first hand when it comes to DAC's.
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I seem to be having a weird behaviour with my phone lately. Once in a while, it just slows down to a crawl, and intermittently vibrates (not the quick haptic vibrations, but maybe 1 to 1.5 second long vibrations). although the phone still responds, it's really slow, and i had to do a battery pull in order to get it property working again. I didn't actually have that problem, so i can't be sure, but the symptoms may match those of a bad temp root. (phone slows down, etc). I never waited long enough to see if the phone reverts to normal after a while, and i've always just pulled the battery.
it seems to be correlated to blutooth connections. it happened once when i was turning on an app (torque) ...and today, happened again while i was exiting from torque. i've been using torque for maybe 2 months now, and everything was fine.
the symptoms also doesn't happen all the time.
anyone know what the problem is?
i have a rooted shift, stock rom, and bc's 1.8 kernel running @ 368-1401 on-demand.
it's also possible that the OBD2 blutooth adapter i'm using with torque is a cheap knock off elm327.
This is a bug with Torque and Pandora. If you uninstall Pandora or turn off the car Bluetooth in the Pandora settings it will fix it.
I use both Torque paid and a cheap knockoff adapter also.
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thanks for the response. are you able to elaborate on the bug? is it the combination of torque and pandora that triggers it? i do have pandora installed, but don't really use it.
finalhit said:
thanks for the response. are you able to elaborate on the bug? is it the combination of torque and pandora that triggers it? i do have pandora installed, but don't really use it.
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This is from the Torque forum:
There is a good chance that you have another app or bluetooth pairing that is conflicting somehow – with quite a few EVO users (though it wasn’t limited to just the EVO), the ‘Pandora’ app was the culprit, but any app that stays active monitoring bluetooth could be the culprit.
Torque’s bluetooth code is rock solid, and it works on the Tab, so you’ll have some 3rd party app somewhere which is going crazy consuming all the available CPU power.
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If you go into Pandora and go to Preferences then at the bottom is "Bluetooth for Automotive" turn that off and it fixes the issue. I rarely use Pandora myself and was bummed that I couldn't use both apps, until I found this workaround on the Torque forum.
Interesting. I also have my phone paired to my car...could that be an issue?
Is the fact that I've only experienced this recently inspite of 2+ mos of use, consistent with that thesis?
edit: nm. i went to the torque forums, and learned myself a thing or two. yup, definitely experiencing those symptoms. the dev was saying the newest version should have some workaround, so we'll see tommorow if it takes.
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I'm planning on installing my Flo Nexus in my car to replace the outdated stock navigation system. I was quite interested in Timur's USB ROM but it doesn't support Flo and doesn't look like he'll be adding it after cancelling the indiegogo campaign he started to fund it.
I've spent some time searching and looking at the different kernels and roms available, and for now am running ElementalX 1.7beta with an older CM nightly.
I think this meets most of my needs, but I have one little nitpick - is there anything out there that separates the "Wake on plug" action into two separate functions? I'd like the screen to wake up when power is applied, but not when power is removed as this is going to leave the screen on when I get out of the vehicle. Ideally when power is removed I'd like it to go to deep sleep immediately.
Thanks.
I've never used the app Tasker. But isn't that what people use when trying to accomplish that?
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I've never used the app Tasker. But isn't that what people use when trying to accomplish that?
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I've used tasker for different things, but have found it unreliable when it came to power events, at least in the past. I'll definitely give it a shot and see how it works for this scenario. Thanks for reminding me.
Any other suggestions out there in case Tasker doesn't do the trick, or other votes for Tasker?
I got an app called "Caffine" which keeps the screen on while plugged in/charging, and when I turn the car off I set the backlight to 15 seconds, that way it sleeps after 15 seconds. Works great.
If you don't mind me asking, how are you installing the tablet into your car?
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I got an app called "Caffine" which keeps the screen on while plugged in/charging, and when I turn the car off I set the backlight to 15 seconds, that way it sleeps after 15 seconds. Works great.
If you don't mind me asking, how are you installing the tablet into your car?
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I have an '06 Acura TL with OEM Navi system. I'm having a car audio shop relocate the navi screen (as it's tied to climate functions but I don't need to see it) and they're putting the tablet in its place. The goal is to have things looking stock while be far from it.
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I have an '06 Acura TL with OEM Navi system. I'm having a car audio shop relocate the navi screen (as it's tied to climate functions but I don't need to see it) and they're putting the tablet in its place. The goal is to have things looking stock while be far from it.
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How much are they charging you? Is it a common audio shop?
Cl8rs said:
How much are they charging you? Is it a common audio shop?
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It's part of a complete stereo install I'm doing, and it's not cheap although it's not rip-off expensive either. I chose them because they are capable of doing good fabrication work and are going to need to put something together to hold the tablet securely in place behind the stock bezel.
Just wanted to update for people to know what I did. Tasker was the way to go to get exactly what I want, but I needed to add the Secure Settings plugin as well. With that plugin I was able to immediately turn on the screen when power is applied, as well as shut off the screen immediately when power is removed.
I've also attached other bits to these profiles, such as adjusting the CPU clock and disabling wifi/bluetooth when the screen is off. At this point I'm losing less than 10% battery for 24 hours of sleep, which is pretty good although I'd like to see if I can find any improvements. We'll see!
Currently running timurs rom but it crashes a lot. Are there other roms that allow fast charge, sleep/wake with power, on screen volume etc.
Any help greatly appreciated
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Currently running timurs rom but it crashes a lot. Are there other roms that allow fast charge, sleep/wake with power, on screen volume etc.
Any help greatly appreciated
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I've been running Timur's ROM as well and I really want an alternative as well as I've been facing issues with the ROM, and it looks like Timur has discontinued development on the 2012 model.
From what I've seen so far though CM11 should support USB DACs so I'm keen to try that out.
Some notes:
Fast charge - that's a kernel setting so any custom kernel should allow that.
Sleep/Wake on power - After many months of usage, sleep or even firm sleep has been a hit or miss for me. When it works, it works really well but sometimes a some random app might cause a wakelock, draining the battery. Even otherwise, there are many other issues such as USB audio doesn't resume. Plus the battery tends to drains quicker + looses health because of being in a hot car.
So instead, what I'm planning to do, is to just completely shutdown/boot up a tablet on power. Some notes:
- Bootup time is fairly quick - about 30 seconds, upto a minute, which is acceptable for me. You can reduce the startup time even further by using apps like BootManager to prevent unnecessary apps from starting up. Perhaps we can slim down the ROM further by deleting unnecessary apks etc.
- Fresh start is always a better option - you don't want your tablet to crash while driving right? I've had to reboot many times before or during driving, and it annoys me to say the least.
- USB audio always works fine when booted (well, with Timur's ROM anyways, need to test with CM11/others)
- No battery drain due to device standby or wakelocks
- No overheating and loss of battery health
- For shutdown on power loss, we can use Tasker. Maybe make a script to first turn the screen off, and after say 10 minutes of idle turn off the device completely (this will give us a chance to resume quickly in case we stopped the car for some reason).
- For startup on power, we can use the fastboot oem command to make the device automatically power up
On-Screen Volume: From daily usage, this hasn't been very practical in reality. I mean if you're driving, you really shouldn't be looking at the screen and trying to aim at the tiny buttons. Instead, a better option would be to use gestures to control the volume. There are heaps of apps for this, eg: All In One Gestures, Tasker, Gesture Navigation, GMD GestureControl, etc. You could use a single-swipe down and swipe-up to increase the volume up/down. Swipe left/right to change tracks. Two finger swipes to switch between apps. Just use your imagniation.
Might seem like a lot of work initially, but IMHO it'll be worth it, at least to get a stable ROM which is updated regularly (not to mention, you get to use the newest GApps!).
My only concern is to get the DAC working on startup. Might have to look into Timur's startup scripts to see how he does it - maybe even port the FHD scripts over to 2012 if necessary.
do you have a link to any fast charge kernels ? all i can find is Timurs ?
thanks
adamsilver1987 said:
do you have a link to any fast charge kernels ? all i can find is Timurs ?
thanks
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Kang-aroo kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558717
Supports fastcharge, OTG, hotplug DAC, firm sleep, multiboot and more.
thanks. this may sounds stupid ( im new to this rooting thing etc ) i am running paranoidandroid ROM. seems to run smoothly. i have flashed/installed that kernel and nothing is different. no extra settings etc? am i doing something wrong ?
thanks again
adamsilver1987 said:
thanks. this may sounds stupid ( im new to this rooting thing etc ) i am running paranoidandroid ROM. seems to run smoothly. i have flashed/installed that kernel and nothing is different. no extra settings etc? am i doing something wrong ?
thanks again
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Use a kernel tweaking app, like TricksterMod.
ok downloaded that and it means nothing to me im afraid. how would i turn on fast charge for example or OTG host mode, firm sleep etc ?
only thing i can find where i assume you can set things is the " SysCtrl Editor" but it jsut comes up with a huge list of stuff that i have no idea about.
i assume i need to find fast charge in sysctrl and change it from 0 to 1... but cant find anything under the search. not a clue what id be looking for
starting to think Timurs rom was simple compared to this. haha
thanks for the help
Use PowerEventManager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50265682#post50265682
i saw that, but yet again. dont know how to use it ? where do i place it on the tablet. it doesnt show up in recovery mode
You have to install it. Copy it to your device and then use a file manager to open and install it. It will create an icon in your drawer. When you open it, you'll have options to configure firm-sleep etc.
Done. Worked at first but now I've reverted to timurs rom. The tablet froze loads. Wouldnt open some apps at all and power on/off with ignition wasn't reliable. Sometimes it woke, sometimes it didnt. Will give it another go when i habe more time i think.
On a related note, I haven't had much luck with getting my DAC to work with other ROMs - even with Kang-aroo kernel. I'll have to try CM11 with _crue_'s USB audio patches and Netfluke's kernel this weekend and see how it goes.
Edit: No luck. Maybe because it's I'm on tilapia. Even with cm11, Netfluke's latest kernel, and _crue_'s updated audio patches for cm11, couldn't get it to work. And it's a Fiio E17, which I've had no issues with on Timur's ROM.
And no, I'm not going back to Timur's CM10 - it's old. I can't use any of the newer GApps on it, and the ROM is buggy.
I think I'll swap my tilapia with my 2013 deb and use that as a car device instead. It looks like Timur just updated his kernel to v1.0 which fixes a lot of bugs - at least it's being actively developed. As for my tilapia, I'll switch to a more stable/mainstream ROM like Omni and forget about USB audio for now.
Where did u get timurs updated kernel? Cant find a link
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Where did u get timurs updated kernel? Cant find a link
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Oh, you'll have to donate for now, but it should be made public soon.
How much and where?
Thanks
I just set up my phone to cast itself to my car stereo when my car turns on.
http://youtu.be/Ii2GebpoWjE
I hate listening to the radio commercials, and I don't want a navigation mounted in my window. Now I have streaming music and nav right in my car dash.
Cool. How does the car receive the cast?
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Cool. How does the car receive the cast?
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The Appradio has an HDMI on the back, and I just put the chrome cast on my wifi hotspot.
Cool.
That's sick. I was just thinking the other day what the hell I was going to do with my $400 AppRadio I haven't been able to use with either of my last two phones, the MotoX or the N6 . Great idea, throw a Chromecast in it. Idk how hard casting the screen is on the battery but it has to be better than MHL was, and none of that static nonsense either.
Thanks man.
Nice work OP!
I've been looking to do something similar in my '11 STI. I'd love to incorporate the Android experience into my car's dash. I previously looked at the App Radio but people were reporting the annoying delay in the touch screen. Then I started looking at the new Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo, which seems to be a perfect solution. But at $500+, I just can't justify it.
NASIOC thread on the Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2650504
Alternatively, permanently installing the Nexus 7 still seems to be the best option. But it requires some custom modification, which I really don't want to do.
NASIOC thread on the Nexus 7 install:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2459432
I've been looking into this for over a year now and I still can't figure out which direction to go.
I had an AppRadio 3. Hated it. To get app mode working was a huge pain, then I needed a parking brake bypass. It kept costing more and more. I ended up buying an AVIC and got rid of it. The AppRadio was so lacking in features for the price it was sickening.
Bluetooth anyone?
rustid said:
I just set up my phone to cast itself to my car stereo when my car turns on.
http://youtu.be/Ii2GebpoWjE
I hate listening to the radio commercials, and I don't want a navigation mounted in my window. Now I have streaming music and nav right in my car dash.
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Have not listen to a radio in over six years, welcome to the age of hands free. And if you use bluetooth and Enhanced Caller ID from app store, it will read your mail and text to you and allow you to respond with your voice and read what you said back and ask you if it's okay to send. So uh, seems like your doing things the hard way. Plenty of great sounding receivers out there that will give you a hell of a sound that include bluetooth and have built in mics along with USB ports and HDMI so, get one that gives you great sound and power and a mount that goes in the radios CD slot and you are set to go with a touch screen a moment away and hands free everything else. There is also an assistant app you can get at the play store to do many commands that are phone related with just your voice. Personally, I get in my car, put the phone in its wireless charging dashboard mount, The NFC sticker on the mount turns bluetooth on/off for me automatically and stream to my hearts content. Easy and affordable. What cost me the most was good speakers and some power amps to push the sound through.
wow, sweet! I I have been looking into how I could get my appradio 2 up and running again since getting the nexus..
Looks like a chromecast is on my shortlist again! thanks!
BTW, would you mind posting your tasker setup/file?
tsy87 said:
wow, sweet! I I have been looking into how I could get my appradio 2 up and running again since getting the nexus..
Looks like a chromecast is on my shortlist again! thanks!
BTW, would you mind posting your tasker setup/file?
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I will update the OP with my tasks, but I am using the app AutoInput in conjunction so it might not work for you directly. I will see if AutoInput will export as well.
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Have not listen to a radio in over six years, welcome to the age of hands free. And if you use bluetooth and Enhanced Caller ID from app store, it will read your mail and text to you and allow you to respond with your voice and read what you said back and ask you if it's okay to send. So uh, seems like your doing things the hard way. Plenty of great sounding receivers out there that will give you a hell of a sound that include bluetooth and have built in mics along with USB ports and HDMI so, get one that gives you great sound and power and a mount that goes in the radios CD slot and you are set to go with a touch screen a moment away and hands free everything else. There is also an assistant app you can get at the play store to do many commands that are phone related with just your voice. Personally, I get in my car, put the phone in its wireless charging dashboard mount, The NFC sticker on the mount turns bluetooth on/off for me automatically and stream to my hearts content. Easy and affordable. What cost me the most was good speakers and some power amps to push the sound through.
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I leave bluetooth on all the time because I have a lot of devices. I have not listened to the radio for 12 years, and I don't have any intention of starting. My previous phone had to plug in and I had a little dock made where I could hide my phone away. I am going to get a magnetic Qi mount I think now that I am completely wireless, I just mostly wanted to show people how it works with a chromecast in this video. I also use hands free and voice for everything.
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Nice work OP!
I've been looking to do something similar in my '11 STI. I'd love to incorporate the Android experience into my car's dash. I previously looked at the App Radio but people were reporting the annoying delay in the touch screen. Then I started looking at the new Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo, which seems to be a perfect solution. But at $500+, I just can't justify it.
NASIOC thread on the Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2650504
Alternatively, permanently installing the Nexus 7 still seems to be the best option. But it requires some custom modification, which I really don't want to do.
NASIOC thread on the Nexus 7 install:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2459432
I've been looking into this for over a year now and I still can't figure out which direction to go.
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I personally don't notice a huge touch delay. It is there I guess, but I don't notice it. I really like my setup, even more so now that it is wireless. I usually use voice commands for navigation, text, and music, so I never touch the screen to notice the slight lag anyhow. It all depends on how you use it though.
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I had an AppRadio 3. Hated it. To get app mode working was a huge pain, then I needed a parking brake bypass. It kept costing more and more. I ended up buying an AVIC and got rid of it. The AppRadio was so lacking in features for the price it was sickening.
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It was a little spendy, but 100% mirror on my phone makes it have every feature I could ever want. Putting my phone on the dash, I can't think of anything it doesn't do.
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That's sick. I was just thinking the other day what the hell I was going to do with my $400 AppRadio I haven't been able to use with either of my last two phones, the MotoX or the N6 . Great idea, throw a Chromecast in it. Idk how hard casting the screen is on the battery but it has to be better than MHL was, and none of that static nonsense either.
Thanks man.
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If it is plugged in it charges faster than it drains, haven't tried Qi yet, but will figure out how I will do it and get a cool magnetic dock. I cant kill the battery over a day anyhow so I don't even plug it in most of the time while I am driving.
I'm using the Microsoft Miracast wireless display adapter on my AppRadio2. Works rather well. I had to edit the build.prop to enable Miracast though. Next up is a wireless charging mat to go 100% wireless on mine. Thanks for the tip on AutoInput, will be nice to fully automate the connection process.
there also needs to be a process that lets you turn off the screen
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Sweet, right now there is a promo to get the chromecast for 23 bucks from target and google will give you $20 in google play credit.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7484988-google-chromecast-wireless-hdmi-streaming-dongle-23-free-shipping
Connecting Chromecast to a device with a touch screen allowed you to control your phone this way, or is that a feature of the device you used?
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there also needs to be a process that lets you turn off the screen
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Sweet, right now there is a promo to get the chromecast for 23 bucks from target and google will give you $20 in google play credit.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7484988-google-chromecast-wireless-hdmi-streaming-dongle-23-free-shipping
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If you turn off the screen then it wont cast. That is why I have brightness set to lowest when it runs. Still charges faster than drains, so I just set it upside down and forget about it.
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If you turn off the screen then it wont cast. That is why I have brightness set to lowest when it runs. Still charges faster than drains, so I just set it upside down and forget about it.
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I know, but there were apps for other phones that would cut the power to the screen but trick it into thinking it was still on... Granted they never worked perfectly, but that would be ideal if they did.
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Connecting Chromecast to a device with a touch screen allowed you to control your phone this way, or is that a feature of the device you used?
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Yeah it's the AppRadio, the Chromecast is just used for displaying the screen. The AppRadio sends the coordinates of the touches it detects to the phone via bluetooth.
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I know, but there were apps for other phones that would cut the power to the screen but trick it into thinking it was still on... Granted they never worked perfectly, but that would be ideal if they did.
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When I did this with my galaxy nexus I used Screen off #ROOT or something, but it hasn't worked for a phone since that one. I haven't found a good one that does it since then, but to be honest I haven't really looked in a year or so.
I'm wondering if it would be possible to have the display output with the phone "locked" since it will show the clock on an external display when off and locked.
I just confirmed that "Screen Standby ♯ Root" does work for turning off the N6 screen while still mirroring to AppRadio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby
Or u could just stream it through Bluetooth?
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Hello all,
I just wanted to let all who are interested know that the MyGica A681 USB stick works 100%. I have it hooked up to one of those flat window mount antennas and it receives full HD signal that I view through the PadTV app found on Play Store. The PadTV app lacks in a lot of ways, it would be cool if someone around here was able to come up with something better. A few of the channels have a major A/V delay but it may be due to reception and not the tuner stick or app. Overall, it was a very worthwhile purchase for me, if anyone has any questions let me know.
Hopefully this is useful information for a cord-cutter somewhere. I'm not in any way affiliated with MyGica, just a fellow MOJO owner who couldn't find any info on a TV Tuner stick that would work with our boxes so I took the dive on my own.
Thanks buddy, this is a great discovery!
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Thanks buddy, this is a great discovery!
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No problem. I've pretty much been doing a lot of my own discovering what works since there's not much documentation for our devices. Like I said in my first post, it would be awesome if someone around here was able to come up with something better for a channel surfing app. PadTV gets the job done, but it's certainly not the prettiest. I forgot to mention that it also does DVR, but one of my issues is that it will only save to internal storage and not something like an external drive or an SD card. The channel info/current episode descriptions are several hours behind. If theres a button on my remote for Channel +/-, I haven't found it. You have to use your mouse to bring up and scroll through channels. Again, it gets the job done, I can watch 39 or so OTA channels, and quite a few of which are HD. It's just not the most MOJO friendly UI, since it was intended for phones.
Some other things I use daily that work 100%: Ouya controller (as 2nd controller), Plugables brand 7x USB 3.0 hub, & a Rii Mini i8 keyboard. Obviously stuff like my Logitech Bluetooth receiver that I run to my stereo also works to receive audio from MOJO. My USB wired Logitech PC game controller works great as well.
Just trying to help fellow XDA'ers and Googlers not worry about compatibility before they order something like I did. That said, most if not all of my worries were completely unfounded because everything I've thrown at the MOJO so far works like a charm!
Would a wired XBox 360 controller work?
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Would a wired XBox 360 controller work?
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I don't have one to test but I'm 99% sure it would.
I'd just like to clarify a point: it may sound like nitpicking, but it's not the PadTV app that works; it's the PadTV-HD app. The standard PadTV just says it can't find a device.
That being said, the little MyGica is a little giant. I live in a fringe reception area, for decent reception I need a huge rooftop antenna, but this little thumb-drive-sized receiver still picks up a round dozen stations on the 10-cm piece of coat hanger wire it comes with. Yes, the weaker stations have audio lag problems; I hope a better antenna fixes that. It also costs about half what other similar units do, and most of them work on windows only.
I tried a few of the other TV apps on Play Store but the PadTV-HD was the only one that recognized the A681. I didn't find it all that bad an interface, except that the sidebars won't stay in place longer than a couple seconds, and I couldn't find a setting for that. It also lacks a volume control, as the MOJO itself does, so you must hope you have some control somewhere else. And there is no info in the EPG (electronic program guide) even though it appears to have that function. But I was able to find and watch several different channels without any real problems; except, of course, that TV programming in general sucks. Unless you're a sports fan.
So thanks, @tideee88, for the heads-up here!
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I'd just like to clarify a point: it may sound like nitpicking, but it's not the PadTV app that works; it's the PadTV-HD app. The standard PadTV just says it can't find a device.
That being said, the little MyGica is a little giant. I live in a fringe reception area, for decent reception I need a huge rooftop antenna, but this little thumb-drive-sized receiver still picks up a round dozen stations on the 10-cm piece of coat hanger wire it comes with. Yes, the weaker stations have audio lag problems; I hope a better antenna fixes that. It also costs about half what other similar units do, and most of them work on windows only.
I tried a few of the other TV apps on Play Store but the PadTV-HD was the only one that recognized the A681. I didn't find it all that bad an interface, except that the sidebars won't stay in place longer than a couple seconds, and I couldn't find a setting for that. It also lacks a volume control, as the MOJO itself does, so you must hope you have some control somewhere else. And there is no info in the EPG (electronic program guide) even though it appears to have that function. But I was able to find and watch several different channels without any real problems; except, of course, that TV programming in general sucks. Unless you're a sports fan.
So thanks, @tideee88, for the heads-up here!
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Yes, thank you for mentioning that it is in fact the PadTV HD app. Hope I didn't cause anyone any confusion. I also had no luck trying other tuner apps and I tried literally every one available on Play Store (including non-ATSC ones) and even tried sideloading a few because I dislike PadTV HD so much.
I agree that the MyGica stick is a great little device. I'm really impressed with it when it's able to do it's thing properly. I never tried the dinky little antenna it came with, I ordered a 25-mile distance flat window-mount antenna and it gets me about 39 channels here in Pittsburgh, PA. Lots of them are HD, and look and sound great. However, many of the Play Store reviews for PadTV HD seem to indicate that the slow motion, lag, and stuttering are a result of the app not taking advantage of hardware acceleration and thus is trying to encode 1080p on the fly via software rendering or something to that effect. Other than the mild inconveniences of things like not having a dedicated button for CH +/- and as you noted, the channel info being totally useless, it's a real bummer that I can't even get the channels I could be getting if it weren't for a poorly written app that is unfortunately our only option at the moment. I feel as though this is a real hole that could be filled with the rate at which Android set top boxes are becoming popular.
I mostly purchased this because the only time I ever need to watch broadcast TV is when my Steelers are on and hence have no use to pay for cable. I'm really hoping we have a new app sorted out before football season because FOX is one of the channels that currently comes in very laggy and out of sync for me at the moment.
Your MOJO doesn't have volume control, though? It certainly should. Do the hardkeys not work on your C.T.R.L.R.? Android system volume works perfect for me in all apps. Failing that, I've found you can change the volume in Pad TV HD by clicking somewhere in the video frame and dragging your mouse up or down, like a swipe if it were touch. Hopefully that helps!
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Yes, thank you for mentioning that it is in fact the PadTV HD app. Hope I didn't cause anyone any confusion. I also had no luck trying other tuner apps and I tried literally every one available on Play Store (including non-ATSC ones) and even tried sideloading a few because I dislike PadTV HD so much.
I agree that the MyGica stick is a great little device. I'm really impressed with it when it's able to do it's thing properly. I never tried the dinky little antenna it came with, I ordered a 25-mile distance flat window-mount antenna and it gets me about 39 channels here in Pittsburgh, PA. Lots of them are HD, and look and sound great. However, many of the Play Store reviews for PadTV HD seem to indicate that the slow motion, lag, and stuttering are a result of the app not taking advantage of hardware acceleration and thus is trying to encode 1080p on the fly via software rendering or something to that effect. Other than the mild inconveniences of things like not having a dedicated button for CH +/- and as you noted, the channel info being totally useless, it's a real bummer that I can't even get the channels I could be getting if it weren't for a poorly written app that is unfortunately our only option at the moment. I feel as though this is a real hole that could be filled with the rate at which Android set top boxes are becoming popular.
I mostly purchased this because the only time I ever need to watch broadcast TV is when my Steelers are on and hence have no use to pay for cable. I'm really hoping we have a new app sorted out before football season because FOX is one of the channels that currently comes in very laggy and out of sync for me at the moment.
Your MOJO doesn't have volume control, though? It certainly should. Do the hardkeys not work on your C.T.R.L.R.? Android system volume works perfect for me in all apps. Failing that, I've found you can change the volume in Pad TV HD by clicking somewhere in the video frame and dragging your mouse up or down, like a swipe if it were touch. Hopefully that helps!
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I'll try the volume control thing. I'm using CM12.1 and maybe it has a volume control somewhere but I haven't found it yet, I'm used to hardware switches. I'm not using the CTRLR either, just a keyboard & mouse. I'm still working on display resolution problems, as I don't really have the right display hardware for the MOJO, and it's picky that way. I'm about to give up entirely on the powered HDMI-2-VGA adapter to the 1280x1024 computer monitor, too unreliable even just in Android. Neither it nor the HDMI-2-DVI cable to the old Dell monitor will display at all in recovery, for that I have to commandeer the living room and the only true HDMI display in the house, which is a projector--not the best setup for tweaking a device. Still doing my homework on tweaking TWRP to 720P which I hope will solve that problem.
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I'll try the volume control thing. I'm using CM12.1 and maybe it has a volume control somewhere but I haven't found it yet, I'm used to hardware switches. I'm not using the CTRLR either, just a keyboard & mouse. I'm still working on display resolution problems, as I don't really have the right display hardware for the MOJO, and it's picky that way. I'm about to give up entirely on the powered HDMI-2-VGA adapter to the 1280x1024 computer monitor, too unreliable even just in Android. Neither it nor the HDMI-2-DVI cable to the old Dell monitor will display at all in recovery, for that I have to commandeer the living room and the only true HDMI display in the house, which is a projector--not the best setup for tweaking a device. Still doing my homework on tweaking TWRP to 720P which I hope will solve that problem.
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I'm running a rooted stock rom via HDMI so I'm not sure about your display issues as I haven't had any. But I use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse most of the time and the volume hardkeys work on that as well. If your keyboard has volume hardkeys and they don't work, it may be some sort of issue with your rom. AFAIK, my keyboard's drivers are just generic Windows ones.
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I'm running a rooted stock rom via HDMI so I'm not sure about your display issues as I haven't had any. But I use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse most of the time and the volume hardkeys work on that as well. If your keyboard has volume hardkeys and they don't work, it may be some sort of issue with your rom. AFAIK, my keyboard's drivers are just generic Windows ones.
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Same display issues regardless of ROM. AFAIK there are only four, and I tried them all. (This is a very rare instance of me following my own advice: try all the different flavors before deciding on a favorite.) Several people have reported similar issues while in system but I think I'm unique in the recovery problem. Changing the resolution by editing the build.prop improved my display in system but did nothing in recovery; I will just have to carry the MOJO into the living room whenever I need to use recovery, which shouldn't be that often. The bright side is that I learned to unpack and repack recovery images.
My keyboard is a wired mini with no extra room for media keys, but it does have a third control key (FN) to emulate them. But I can't see the blue-on-black icons to use them unless the room is brightly lit! Volume control is not a biggie for me though, I run the audio through a seventies-vintage amp and speakers. I pity those who grew up with "modern" surround sound, satellite speakers and a single subwoofer. My setups often fool both myself and the dogs, we can't tell if the noise is outside the open door or inside the TV.
BTW Windows keyboard drivers won't work on Android, but it's such a low-level thing they are just included in the kernel. Somewhere in the ROM is a keyboard map that can be edited (with root of course), but I misremember where. I never had to remap a keyboard.
PadTV HD app no longer works for me as of the latest update. For anyone considering purchasing a tuner, I recommend against it. Flushed $40 down the toilet.
If you'd like I'll send you the old version, I'll just need to save it then upload it. You'd just have to uninstall the newer version then sideload the old one and not allow it to update. Just PM me.
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If you'd like I'll send you the old version, I'll just need to save it then upload it. You'd just have to uninstall the newer version then sideload the old one and not allow it to update. Just PM me.
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Can you please send me the version that works?