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can HD2 Raise 1200Mhz?

Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
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tomeu0000 said:
Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
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In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!

atticus182 said:
In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!
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I would encourage you to do a little more research into overclocking. Some kernels allow up to 1190mhz through setCPU and i have played games at this speed - so for real life use that speed has been stable. A thorough benchmark will better test the stability, but only if you raise the voltage will the CPU's life be effected, but if by only a small amount then you will probably upgrade before the CPU is anywhere near giving up. I do agree with the post above that there will be little noticable change in experience, but this will show in benchmarks.
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Read my thread dude

Making my Evo any faster?

So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
[Picture of a 2330 benchmark screencap was supposed to go here, but I don't have eight post haha]
I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!

Move to gingerbread.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
weehooherod said:
Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC

xsaqzw said:
Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.

A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.

quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.

Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
Edit: and this goes in the q and a section

Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?

david279 said:
Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
Sent from my Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5 Beta'd out Evo

lexusmike said:
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
Edit: and this goes in the q and a section
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.

Thread moved to General.

Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.

Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).

Award Tour said:
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU

Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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[Q] Stable ROM?

Looking for a stable rom with improved battery life for my wifes evo shift. What are the best options available?

I'd put this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953293
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lawtalking said:
Looking for a stable rom with improved battery life for my wifes evo shift. What are the best options available?
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why dont you just root it and apply OC kernel and get rid of the bloatware? mine runs smooth as hell on stock rom

i'll 2nd the mikshift rom and also the bcnice oc kernel (& setcpu) after loading the rom
the processor runs at 250'ish mhz when not being used then jumps up to a nice snappy 1.5ghz undervolted any time its being used
the speeds are completely configurable go as high or as low as you like under certain conditions or keep it stock at a constant 800mhz

foxsdaddy67 said:
why dont you just root it and apply OC kernel and get rid of the bloatware? mine runs smooth as hell on stock rom
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Whats an OC kernal?

OC stands for over-clocking, so a kernel that has the ability to be over-clocked, aka, run faster than the factory settings

eigerzoom said:
...the bcnice oc kernel (& setcpu) after loading the rom
the processor runs at 250'ish mhz when not being used then jumps up to a nice snappy 1.5ghz undervolted any time its being used
the speeds are completely configurable go as high or as low as you like under certain conditions or keep it stock at a constant 800mhz
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^This is what I am running and I have enjoyed it thus far. Stable so far, I did get a couple really minor graphic glitches (possibly unrelated but was at 1.8ghz) but all around it runs great at 1.8.

Telion007 said:
^This is what I am running and I have enjoyed it thus far. Stable so far, I did get a couple really minor graphic glitches (possibly unrelated but was at 1.8ghz) but all around it runs great at 1.8.
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Any Battery issues? I'm thinking of applying an OC Kernel but not if it drains my battery too much.

nyeazyone said:
Any Battery issues? I'm thinking of applying an OC Kernel but not if it drains my battery too much.
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The kernels are undervolted...where the voltage of the processor is lowered to have better battery life and performance..so its better for you..even if you stay running at 806mhz
Sent from my HTC Knight using MikRom(again)

I second KILO, I know some people hate the Sense UI but there are alot of people that like it. My wife specifically got this phone just for Friend Stream. Root + Stock Rom + OC Kernel is really a great combo and verry stable. Getting rid of the bloatware will make you feel good, but the phone runs well with it, so it is not essential. However every sprint phone I get the first thing to go is Nascar and Football app, ESPN is better imho.
I personally like the AOSP look and feel

[Q] Banchmarks and reality

Hi. I have my HD2 with android 4.0.4 with HWA. My friend has Galaxy mini with 2.3.7 (CM7 rom). And he has better 2D and 3D score in all benchmarks. Why? I don't think Galaxy is so new and so better than HWA HD2... So are the benchmarks lying or I have really worse performance?
And questions to devs or people who understand it: why I have 5000 points in I/O on Dorimanx's CM7 rom and on 4.0.4 HWA I have 1000?

Galaxy mini has only 320x240 resolution, so it has a better score.

OK, but shouldn't I have better CPU and GPU (I mean Adreno) to process more stuff? But ok, I am not grumbling, I was just curious.
And what with that I/O speed? Because in HWA roms write and read is very very slow.

kubekpop said:
OK, but shouldn't I have better CPU and GPU (I mean Adreno) to process more stuff? But ok, I am not grumbling, I was just curious.
And what with that I/O speed? Because in HWA roms write and read is very very slow.
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With dorimanxs ROM you must of had data 2 ext enabled so the io scores were that high because of your memory card and on ics you are using your internal memory which is slower than ext4 partitions
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kubekpop said:
OK, but shouldn't I have better CPU and GPU (I mean Adreno) to process more stuff? But ok, I am not grumbling, I was just curious.
And what with that I/O speed? Because in HWA roms write and read is very very slow.
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TBH, benchmarks mean nothing. All that really matters is the end user experience. If you're satisfied with the performance then it really couldn't matter less what you get in benchmarks. Think about it this way, a Galaxy mini might get a higher benchmark but could you really live with a tiny low res screen and TouchWiz (vs almost ANYTHING on the HD2)?

Thank you guys. I am happy about your answers. That's right. Mini has too small screen.
And one more thing: people (like Rick_1995) can play GTA 3 smoothly. I have still lags. I am not requiering 60fps, but ability of playing it comfortable Am I doing something wrong?

kubekpop said:
Thank you guys. I am happy about your answers. That's right. Mini has too small screen.
And one more thing: people (like Rick_1995) can play GTA 3 smoothly. I have still lags. I am not requiering 60fps, but ability of playing it comfortable Am I doing something wrong?
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Possibly that he is overclocking and you arent?

elesbb said:
Possibly that he is overclocking and you arent?
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I've been trying to get GTA3 running too. Even after setting the governor to performance and details to minimum driving wasn't possible. Does anyone know how to do it? Should we increase volts?

I cannot overclock above 1.2GHz (I don't know why won't they add 1.6GHz from Dorimanx kernel).

kubekpop said:
I cannot overclock above 1.2GHz (I don't know why won't they add 1.6GHz from Dorimanx kernel).
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Dunno why but for me on Typhoon CM7 there was no difference between 1.2GHz and 1.6GHz so I doubt there will be for CM9 either. I can give a +1 to GTA running poorly despite what others say.

kubekpop said:
Thank you guys. I am happy about your answers. That's right. Mini has too small screen.
And one more thing: people (like Rick_1995) can play GTA 3 smoothly. I have still lags. I am not requiering 60fps, but ability of playing it comfortable Am I doing something wrong?
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Nigeldg said:
Dunno why but for me on Typhoon CM7 there was no difference between 1.2GHz and 1.6GHz so I doubt there will be for CM9 either. I can give a +1 to GTA running poorly despite what others say.
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GTA3 on my phone:
elesbb said:
Possibly that he is overclocking and you arent?
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CPU running at 998MHz (no OC), I'm using unreleased drivers so it could be them.
Daycrawler said:
I've been trying to get GTA3 running too. Even after setting the governor to performance and details to minimum driving wasn't possible. Does anyone know how to do it? Should we increase volts?
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voltage wouldn't make a difference.
kubekpop said:
I cannot overclock above 1.2GHz (I don't know why won't they add 1.6GHz from Dorimanx kernel).
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How can you tell that the cpu is really running at 1.6GHz and the kernel is just not faking it ? Qualcomm, the company which made the cpu never released any info about how cpu is clocked in hardware, or the pll limits, the multiplier limits, what internal clock logic checks for etc..

Are they going to be released?

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That's how it runs on my phone as well. I definitely don't define that as smooth. I've played it on my Mum's Desire S and it was far better, with a much higher framerate and better resolution (although that's probably due to the smaller screen) so I personally expect more from the game. Also, what about Real Racing? Happen to have a video of that? Because I've heard that's supposed to work without lag but it most certainly doesn't (Raging Thunder and NFS: Shift do but Real Racing doesn't). On a side note, thanks so much for all of the work you've been doing to keep this phone alive, without people like you in the community this phone would be completely dead

Best ROM/Kernel Combination For Best Performance?

Any recommendation, I just need something that can boost the performance at it's best during gaming then goes back to normal when out of gaming. I don't really care that much for the battery life I just need those performance boost while playing.

Kernel - eXtreme is great, you can overclock up to 2.8ghz, and it has some good tweaks for performance. ROM - hmmm, Don't know honestly. You can try Liquid Remix, Havoc, AEX, i don't think there's huge difference between ROMS, kernel plays major role here with it's tweaking, so use eXtreme kernel

If there was a way to change the resolution to 720, it would help gaming performance alot since it will be alot easier on the gpu.
The Redmi S2 with lower 720 resolution outperforms the MiA1 and the R5+ with the same 625 soc but higher 1080p resolutions.
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_s2_y2-review-1781p4.php

marko.dnb said:
Kernel - eXtreme is great, you can overclock up to 2.8ghz, and it has some good tweaks for performance. ROM - hmmm, Don't know honestly. You can try Liquid Remix, Havoc, AEX, i don't think there's huge difference between ROMS, kernel plays major role here with it's tweaking, so use eXtreme kernel
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I might take a look at that. Thanks!
barrack1 said:
If there was a way to change the resolution to 720, it would help gaming performance alot since it will be alot easier on the gpu.
The Redmi S2 with lower 720 resolution outperforms the MiA1 and the R5+ with the same 625 soc but higher 1080p resolutions.
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_s2_y2-review-1781p4.php
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Maybe on the developer tools? I'm not sure though.

clonedaccnt said:
I might take a look at that. Thanks!
Maybe on the developer tools? I'm not sure though.
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There are resolution changers in play store, use any one if them and change resolution to 1280x720
As for performance, extreme Kernel's the best since you can overclock to 2.8 ghz on cpu and 1 ghz (stock is 650 mhz) on gpu. As for rom, i don't think there's a big difference

berezker said:
There are resolution changers in play store, use any one if them and change resolution to 1280x720
As for performance, extreme Kernel's the best since you can overclock to 2.8 ghz on cpu and 1 ghz (stock is 650 mhz) on gpu. As for rom, i don't think there's a big difference
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Can you give me the exact app or link that you are using for the resolution change? I've tried some but nothing works.

clonedaccnt said:
Can you give me the exact app or link that you are using for the resolution change? I've tried some but nothing works.
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It's called "Easy DPI changer [Root]"