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Just wondering if any owners tried changing the density manually or with lcddensity. Wondering if touchwiz recognize any change in the density. Would love to change this to 200
Will definitely be playing around with the density when I receive mine.
I'm just curious as to what changing the density actually does. Since obviously you can't physically change the screen density, what is the advantage of tricking the phone into thinking it's different via software?
AXIS of Reality said:
I'm just curious as to what changing the density actually does. Since obviously you can't physically change the screen density, what is the advantage of tricking the phone into thinking it's different via software?
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check this video out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yrOAJJK-GY
Usually changing the density makes the screen look more high res by making everything smaller and fitting more information on the screen. If your still using your galaxy s try out lcddensity and change to 200. Touchwiz on 1st galaxy s didnt adjust well to changing the density. default is using 240
Was the first thing i did. Set mine to 202 out if habbit, as most devices get issues with wonky UIs at 200 or below.
Device looks great on 202. The only thing that distorts slight is the quick access tools ( sound and screen rotation only) in the notification bar.
The posituve outweighs the nefative for me.
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risq said:
Was the first thing i did. Set mine to 202 out if habbit, as most devices get issues with wonky UIs at 200 or below.
Device looks great on 202. The only thing that distorts slight is the quick access tools ( sound and screen rotation only) in the notification bar.
The posituve outweighs the nefative for me.
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can you take a screen shot? im wondering what the app menu looks like.
+1 for screenshot. I run my DHD at 190. I use LCD Density Changer which has a compatibility mode to make problem apps run full screen, but it needs root
Okay, great device... but really annoying that most apps don't make use of the extra real estate on the screen. Most apps are just blown up versions of for example the Galaxy S2 apps. Meaning most apps are the same but 5.3/4.2 = 1.26 times bigger That's at least a pity The contacts app displays the same amount of contacts on a screen as the Galaxy S2 or S but... with a 1.26 x bigger font (compared to the S2) and 5.3/4=1.33 (lol) x bigger font compared to the Galaxy S
Fortunately there seems to be a setting in the accessibility settings that allows the user to decrease the font in some stock apps. Unfortunately this doesn't work. At least not on my device. Anyone got this working?
And yes, ICS would be a great improvement for such a big screen device.
Is that possible to set another density for the device (maybe you have to root it first)?
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Is that possible to set another density for the device (maybe you have to root it first)?
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You'd have to root it first, and then push the density down. Not ideal, as some apps then run in a box on the screen, but it does make for smaller fonts, and you can cram more widgets on the screen etc.
I run my HD2 at 160, but then again I have had my eyes lasered!
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Go to system/build.prop
Open in editor
change the value of lcd from 240 to 192
See the difference.
U can always go back
All apps wont be scaled to the new lcd value.
eg: TW in sgsII does not scale.
However i always used this value and did not use TW.
Looks very interesting but I'm afraid that I'm not s pro
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density change doesn't address the question
Hey ho wait..... this wasn't the question. So does the fontsize changing option work for you guys?
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Hey ho wait..... this wasn't the question. So does the fontsize changing option work for you guys?
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I think change the font size setting in gingerbread is for display text in text editor or web browser instead of the launcher and most other application as they have their own fixed font size. You cannot do anything to those applications as they has been programmed that way.
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I think change the font size setting in gingerbread is for display text in text editor or web browser instead of the launcher and most other application as they have their own fixed font size. You cannot do anything to those applications as they has been programmed that way.
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With stock apps I mean the Samsung apps. In the accessibility settings there's an option to change the font size "in the following applications: S planner, Email, Contacts and Messaging" (as stated in the accessibility settings)
Unfortunately this setting doesn't work on my jk4 rom. Maybe others have luck on other roms. Seems like a very usuable option for the note.
drgopoos said:
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Go to system/build.prop
Open in editor
change the value of lcd from 240 to 192
See the difference.
U can always go back
All apps wont be scaled to the new lcd value.
eg: TW in sgsII does not scale.
However i always used this value and did not use TW.
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My lcd.density (or so) was set to 320 on stock!
I changed it to 280 and the system looks now nicer!
Actually, I measured the tab and my calculation would be around 270-280 dpi.
Has anybody other/better data?
By the way, 1st problem after changing lcd density is in S Memo! Background seem to have a fixed 'smaller size' which are then placed wrongly
Another impact: The email-widget does not fit on screen any more (using Launcher Pro) ... Hope in ICS they will fix some of those screen size problems!
fscherz said:
My lcd.density (or so) was set to 320 on stock!
I changed it to 280 and the system looks now nicer!
Actually, I measured the tab and my calculation would be around 270-280 dpi.
Has anybody other/better data?
By the way, 1st problem after changing lcd density is in S Memo! Background seem to have a fixed 'smaller size' which are then placed wrongly
Another impact: The email-widget does not fit on screen any more (using Launcher Pro) ... Hope in ICS they will fix some of those screen size problems!
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I didn't try it myself yet but I bet it will give a whole lot of trouble with almost every Samsung app on this xhdpi device. Like HTC, they exactly target the screen for which they write software. Unlike most android apps in the market, targeting screens with different specs isn't important. Scaling isn't a requirement for these stock apps. ICS will not solve the problem, because it is still up to the developer which screens will be targeted.
Anyway, back to the original question, I think it is safe to conclude that the font setting doesn't work for anyone. So it is a bug.
I have rooted my phone and tried to use Spare Parts to change the font size to Extremely Small. It works instantly and make the application much more usable. But, there is a problem: The font size will change back to Normal after few hours by itself. Anyone has the same problem?
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I have rooted my phone and tried to use Spare Parts to change the font size to Extremely Small. It works instantly and make the application much more usable. But, there is a problem: The font size will change back to Normal after few hours by itself. Anyone has the same problem?
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that method also won't scale down graphics to match the smaller fonts. LCD Density Changer accomplishes that and works well.
What pixel density does everybody use to have the nook look the best. Right now I'm set at 250 using LCD density ap. Everything is obviously bigger and mostly easier to use. Also I'm aware certain gameloft games require a certain pixel density, Just curious what everyone else is set at default of what. My wallpaper seems to be cutting off maybe 100px on the bottom but overall I think it looks good. Also not having an easy time cropping Hires pics to the NC. Using multi live wallpaper to do the trick atm
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I go back and forth, but usually wind up back at 240 for CyanogenMod. On stock B&N firmware, I stay with the default changing it will screw up some of the display elements otherwise.
Wallpaper Wizardrii is very good at taking care of tweaking wallpaper dimensions, cropping and such.
I use 160 and adw ex to make icons bigger. There's a few other settings to make things bigger without using dpi, since I believe that affects the availability of apps in the market.
I'm on CM9 1/14/2012 nightly @ 220 density using Button Savior for navigation...using Zeam for my launcher with 6 columns and 6-7 rows??? Everything seems big and legible for my tired eyes...
I am running CM7 7.1.0 stable and I change the build.prop to 220 and it is a perfect size for me. The only problem with that is every time I need to find and update apps in the market, I have to use es file explorer to change the build.prop back to 160. Not a huge deal but a pain none the less.
Has anyone got this working or have any insight to what to try? I tried playing around with DPI settings with "App Settings" xposed module, and also Xposed Tablet Mode module.
I always wanted tablet mode on my Note 2 thread that is over a year old here but could never get it figured out.
Just adding the navigation bar/soft keys at the bottom(with simple build.prop edit) isn't as good because you can't see the time and notifications at the bottom to effectively always disable your top status bar all of the time.
Your input is much appreciated since this is a main mod that I always pursue!
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Has anyone got this working or have any insight to what to try? I tried playing around with DPI settings with "App Settings" xposed module, and also Xposed Tablet Mode module.
I always wanted tablet mode on my Note 2 thread that is over a year old here but could never get it figured out.
Just adding the navigation bar/soft keys at the bottom(with simple build.prop edit) isn't as good because you can't see the time and notifications at the bottom to effectively always disable your top status bar all of the time.
Your input is much appreciated since this is a main mod that I always pursue!
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im not an expert but i used the ui switcher app by xperiacle on my note 2 it might not work on note 3 but its worth a shot if you really want tablet ui it might require some dpi changing after you set it up though
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im not an expert but i used the ui switcher app by xperiacle on my note 2 it might not work on note 3 but its worth a shot if you really want tablet ui it might require some dpi changing after you set it up though
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If anyone gets this working successfully I'd also like to know. Personally, smaller dpi/tablet ui is the final peice of making the Note 3 perfect (outside of an unlocked BL + recovery).
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If you lower the ro.sf.lcd_density value in /system/build.prop it will go into tablet mode. I'm not sure what the threshold is, but you could just keep lowering it until it works. I'm not sure if there is a "switch" that you can flip to go into tablet mode without lowering it.
even if u go tablet mode, it will be tooo small for note.
what u want is "Phablet" like what the paranoid custom rom do, but I doubt they support note 3 atm.
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even if u go tablet mode, it will be tooo small for note.
what u want is "Phablet" like what the paranoid custom rom do, but I doubt they support note 3 atm.
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I ran the greatest rom known to man, Trans-Nebula, on the Note 2. There were bsolutely zero problems running at 160 dpi, for myself and many others.
Such an unbelievably clean/smooth look. And it was 100% tablet ui, not phablet.
So it can be done. I'm just not smart enough to figure it out lol. At least without potentially breaking things, which without the benefit of a nandroid, trial and error can be risky.
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Actually I too was a nebula rom follower and if you look Nate explained why there would be no tablet roms in 4.3. Google took the ui out of 4.3. It does not exist. Even tablets released with 4.3 have the stock phone style ui, buttons across the bottom and drop down toggles.
It really sucks because I loved that setup. My workaround had been tablet noise on apex launcher and a transparent and hidden status bar. I also run at 320 DPI - just edit the build.prop file. The status bar is much smaller but Most apps are great with this. some do have to be changed back to 480.
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Actually I too was a nebula rom follower and if you look Nate explained why there would be no tablet roms in 4.3. Google took the ui out of 4.3. It does not exist. Even tablets released with 4.3 have the stock phone style ui, buttons across the bottom and drop down toggles.
It really sucks because I loved that setup. My workaround had been tablet noise on apex launcher and a transparent and hidden status bar. I also run at 320 DPI - just edit the build.prop file. The status bar is much smaller but Most apps are great with this. some do have to be changed back to 480.
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I can live with the status bar. My biggest thing is getting that dpi down. Everything is just way too big and bloated...I'm getting used to it now but there's nothing better than the crisp, compact look of 160 dpi on this magnificent screen.
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kalkat579 said:
im not an expert but i used the ui switcher app by xperiacle on my note 2 it might not work on note 3 but its worth a shot if you really want tablet ui it might require some dpi changing after you set it up though
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Thanks for mentioning. Doesn't seem to work with the Note 3 yet but I am subscribed!
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If anyone gets this working successfully I'd also like to know. Personally, smaller dpi/tablet ui is the final peice of making the Note 3 perfect (outside of an unlocked BL + recovery).
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If you lower the ro.sf.lcd_density value in /system/build.prop it will go into tablet mode. I'm not sure what the threshold is, but you could just keep lowering it until it works. I'm not sure if there is a "switch" that you can flip to go into tablet mode without lowering it.
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Lowering the DPI alone doesn't do the trick unfortunately
sqjzb said:
even if u go tablet mode, it will be tooo small for note.
what u want is "Phablet" like what the paranoid custom rom do, but I doubt they support note 3 atm.
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Not true. Check out the Note 1 in tablet mode at 213 DPI rather than 160-177 DPI and it was amazing! I know that the difference in Android versions(we're now hoping for this on 4.3) probably makes a difference.
gerg004 said:
I can live with the status bar. My biggest thing is getting that dpi down. Everything is just way too big and bloated...I'm getting used to it now but there's nothing better than the crisp, compact look of 160 dpi on this magnificent screen.
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So just change the build.prop so you get 160 DPI. It will be very small I can assure you. The mathematical equivalent to 160 on the N2 is 240 on the N3
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So just change the build.prop so you get 160 DPI. It will be very small I can assure you. The mathematical equivalent to 160 on the N2 is 240 on the N3
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I did just that. Didn't realize it was that easy. Also didn't realize the dpi changed like that, so yes, 160 is waaaay too small.
@BotsOne learned me about the build.prop
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Yeah I wish the DPI was a little smaller for some apps. Maybe 10-15% smaller would be nice.
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Yeah I wish the DPI was a little smaller for some apps. Maybe 10-15% smaller would be nice.
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gerg004 said:
I did just that. Didn't realize it was that easy. Also didn't realize the dpi changed like that, so yes, 160 is waaaay too small.
@BotsOne learned me about the build.prop
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FYI, if you don't already know, you can install Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401), and there's a module in there called "App Settings" that lets you easily change DPI per-app. Obviously if you want everything shrunk down it's faster to do build.prop changes, but if you want certain apps overridden from that, App Settings lets you do that. I found it useful for browser, sms, system, and a few others.
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FYI, if you don't already know, you can install Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401), and there's a module in there called "App Settings" that lets you easily change DPI per-app. Obviously if you want everything shrunk down it's faster to do build.prop changes, but if you want certain apps overridden from that, App Settings lets you do that. I found it useful for browser, sms, system, and a few others.
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Actually I find it great to run the system (build.prop) at 320. This makes everything about 25% smaller. But not every app will run this way perfectly. Usually Samsung apps. So for that, yes install the Xposed mod and change the individual app DPI back to 480. I have had to do this on only about four apps so far.
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Actually I find it great to run the system (build.prop) at 320. This makes everything about 25% smaller. But not every app will run this way perfectly. Usually Samsung apps. So for that, yes install the Xposed mod and change the individual app DPI back to 480. I have had to do this on only about four apps so far.
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I got mine running at 380 but how do I get the home screen position indicators to move down they are about half way up the screen.
So i was thinking...if tablet mode is non existant in 4.3, is there some way to mash it up to be similar?
Soft keys can be enabled, but they just lack the static clock, notification icons, and a tappable zone to expand the notification drawer.
I sifted through apps on the Play Store and couldn't think of a way to put it together, any suggestions? Maybe combine some widgets with overlays app?
Was anyone able to get Phab7 working? It's an Xposed MOD to get TabletUI to kick in with scaling options but I can't get it to work, here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545080
Definitely seems like it is possible
Hyperdrive's Navbar is awesome that it works...now trying to figure out how to combine the bars for Tablet UI or some kind of workaround since Phab7 is still causing SystemUI crashes...
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FYI, if you don't already know, you can install Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401), and there's a module in there called "App Settings" that lets you easily change DPI per-app. Obviously if you want everything shrunk down it's faster to do build.prop changes, but if you want certain apps overridden from that, App Settings lets you do that. I found it useful for browser, sms, system, and a few others.
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I second using App Settings for Xposed. It works awesome. Just make the DPI 320 or lower (or so).
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I second using App Settings for Xposed. It works awesome. Just make the DPI 320 or lower (or so).
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I tried setting DPI at different levels including 360, 320, 260, 240, 230, 200, 160, and 177 lol. I also tried with 800x1280 res and 1000x1600 screen(dp)
I also added qemu.hw.mainkeys=0 to my build.prop while testing and left it in there
So I just bought my brand new Note 4 (SM-N910W8) and of course the first thing I did was root it and install xposed framework. Everything works fine, I always change the DPI on my Note phones because I like to make use of the extra screen real estate. This worked fine as well, that is until I installed my Sview (S View cover) on it.
The sview window appears fine in the new DPI but across the bottom portion there is a black bar (the screen is off on the bottom third of the window).
I tried using the Xposed app settings mod to change the sview portion of the UI back to 640 DPI (the native resolution), but this didn't work!
has anyone else experienced this on the Note 4? any suggestions to make it work while having the rest of the phone in 480 DPI mode?
Helllpppp
Can you post a picture of what's exactly happening?
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So I just bought my brand new Note 4 (SM-N910W8) and of course the first thing I did was root it and install xposed framework. Everything works fine, I always change the DPI on my Note phones because I like to make use of the extra screen real estate. This worked fine as well, that is until I installed my Sview (S View cover) on it.
The sview window appears fine in the new DPI but across the bottom portion there is a black bar (the screen is off on the bottom third of the window).
I tried using the Xposed app settings mod to change the sview portion of the UI back to 640 DPI (the native resolution), but this didn't work!
has anyone else experienced this on the Note 4? any suggestions to make it work while having the rest of the phone in 480 DPI mode?
Helllpppp
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I'm about to do the same
What new setting did you put for the dpi?
This seems to be the same problem with the lock screen and dpi settings. Unfortunately it seems like the dpi settings are baked into the system ui and cannot be modified unless dpi is changed for everything. If been there. Good luck
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I'm about to do the same
What new setting did you put for the dpi?
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I edited the build.prop to have a DPI of 480 instead of 640 (the native DPI).
It's the same thing that happens when you make the same change to the DPI on Note 3 with S-View covers as well.
I am still trying to figure a way to fix this, has anyone found anything new?
The Picture 1 shows what's happening to the Sviewcover. Picture 2 shows me tricking the phone into believing that the Cover is closed (by using a magnet).
I used Xposed App Settings to set the system DPI to 480 (from 640 stock). I set the Sviewcover.apk to 640 as well so the Sviewcover is not misaligned to the left side.
BUT here is the problem, there is a Black bar at the bottom half of the Sviewcover which renders it useless and ugly. The ONLY way I have found to fix this is NOT to alter the DPI for "Android System" and leaving it stock. That way the Sviewcover would show up perfectly without the black bars.
But that defeats the purpose of altering the DPI first place. Why can't samsung allow two zoom levels for user to choose so we can either choose big icons or more screen spaces?
there is a semi solution for this
usually people use rom toolbox to change the entire dpi.
first you must return the dpi to the normal 640 in rom toolbox
then in app settings Xposed change com.android.systemui dpi to 480
and then go to Android System (Android) and change the dpi back to 640
don't forget each time you must turn on the app setting and save after the change
this might effect some of the apps and show it in normal size but it will fix your problem
plus you can change any app's dpi to 480 from app settings later and make it small again.
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So I just bought my brand new Note 4 (SM-N910W8) and of course the first thing I did was root it and install xposed framework. Everything works fine, I always change the DPI on my Note phones because I like to make use of the extra screen real estate. This worked fine as well, that is until I installed my Sview (S View cover) on it.
The sview window appears fine in the new DPI but across the bottom portion there is a black bar (the screen is off on the bottom third of the window).
I tried using the Xposed app settings mod to change the sview portion of the UI back to 640 DPI (the native resolution), but this didn't work!
has anyone else experienced this on the Note 4? any suggestions to make it work while having the rest of the phone in 480 DPI mode?
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In app settings, as well as setting the DPI to 640 you also have to tick the box "apply res to widgets" If you don't, the widgets still render at the system DPI. You have to apply the 640 DPI to the com.android.keyguard (I think that's what it's called it's got keyguard in the name).
Yup, Batfink is right. I forgot about the apply to widget setting, bur when I finally applied it everything was good.
omid_freesky said:
there is a semi solution for this
usually people use rom toolbox to change the entire dpi.
first you must return the dpi to the normal 640 in rom toolbox
then in app settings Xposed change com.android.systemui dpi to 480
and then go to Android System (Android) and change the dpi back to 640
don't forget each time you must turn on the app setting and save after the change
this might effect some of the apps and show it in normal size but it will fix your problem
plus you can change any app's dpi to 480 from app settings later and make it small again.
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This will make the main UI at 640DPI which defeats the purpose of changing the DPI first place.
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Applethrow said:
Yup, Batfink is right. I forgot about the apply to widget setting, bur when I finally applied it everything was good.
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I checked "apply to widgets" for both Keyguard and Sviewcover but the Black bar is still present.
When I come to think of it, I only changed dpi for the system.ui process. Then set keyguard, camera, contacts etc to 640. Didn't touch Android System.
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When I come to think of it, I only changed dpi for the system.ui process. Then set keyguard, camera, contacts etc to 640. Didn't touch Android System.
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This is a semi-fix as you would have to alter the DPI for EVERY app to render at 480DPI but I guess this is the ONLY method at the moment :crying:
Yes, you are absolutely right. Just tried it and s-view window got a black bottom bar. Maybe I'll have switch to my wallet flip cover lol