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Hey everyone. So, in order to keep my plan, I'm stuck paying full price for an S5 either way. Question I have for this esteemed audience is, given I'm spending 100s of $$ either way, should I get the Developer edition? Or just get a retail edition?
I'm a bit unclear on if there's any disadvantage to the Developer Edition.
Thanks in advance!
roleary said:
Hey everyone. So, in order to keep my plan, I'm stuck paying full price for an S5 either way. Question I have for this esteemed audience is, given I'm spending 100s of $$ either way, should I get the Developer edition? Or just get a retail edition?
I'm a bit unclear on if there's any disadvantage to the Developer Edition.
Thanks in advance!
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Samsung has a bad track record of keeping their developer editions up to date. I have a Motorola X developer edition, but Motorola does a better job keeping that version up to date.
I just bought an S5 at full price, I choose to not go for the developer's edition.
If you intend to root and custom rom go with Developer Edition as boot loader is unlocked.
roleary said:
Hey everyone. So, in order to keep my plan, I'm stuck paying full price for an S5 either way. Question I have for this esteemed audience is, given I'm spending 100s of $$ either way, should I get the Developer edition? Or just get a retail edition?
I'm a bit unclear on if there's any disadvantage to the Developer Edition.
Thanks in advance!
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As mentioned, if you want to root and flash a custom recovery and ROM then go with the Dev Edition. I had an S4 Dev Edition before my S5 Dev Edition. Samsung never released an update or recovery files for the Dev Edition and will probably follow the same policy for the S5. I don't know what their logic is but it really doesn't matter. Our Dev community does a great job taking the latest firmware, tweakng it and releasing ROMs that are updated.. The key to a Dev Edition is the unlocked bootloader, as long as you keep your Dev Edition bootloader you can flash just about anything you want. The alternative is a retail version of the S5, rooted with Safestrap, but then you can only flash Touch Wiz based ROMs. I love my S5 Dev Edition and having an unlocked bootloader makes it so simple to flash a custom recovery, root and flash ROMs..
I have the Developer Edition because I don't buy subsidized phones, and I like to flash any ROM I want (I came from the Galaxy Nexus).
Can I flash ANY Verizon S5 ROM, including the ones that are intended to be installed with SafeStrap? (most are).
Thanks in advance.
vfnewman said:
I have the Developer Edition because I don't buy subsidized phones, and I like to flash any ROM I want (I came from the Galaxy Nexus).
Can I flash ANY Verizon S5 ROM, including the ones that are intended to be installed with SafeStrap? (most are).
Thanks in advance.
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I'm pretty sure you can. The Developer in his OP should address any special instructions for SafeStrap users and Dev owners. If there is a restriction on who can flash the ROM, it is probably more restrictive for the Safestrap users vice the Dev owners.
Hello fellow Android community. Recently I ended up bricking my Verizon S5 Dev Edition using Safestrap. I went out and bought a new consumer S5 it's running Kit Kat 4.4.4 NK2. I already know Towelroot doesnt work to root it. I'm using a Mac with Hemidall 1.4.0 installed and can't access Windows XP in Virtual Box no longer as it won't install properly. Is there any way I can fix my Verizon Dev Edition and or root this new Verizon S5 without having access to an actual PC using ODIN? Last summer I flashed the wrong file on my Dev Edition and it locked the bootloader making it a consumer version. Currently Verizon S5 Dev Editions from Samsung are on backorder. I'm setup to be emailed when they are in stock and it will take 4 weeks for them to get the product according to their site. Thanks for the help. This has been cross posted in another forum pertaining to root but less extensive in detail.
I have already towlroot installed on my current S5 and files to downgrade even though im already on NK2 stock.
Droid9684 said:
Hello fellow Android community. Recently I ended up bricking my Verizon S5 Dev Edition using Safestrap. I went out and bought a new consumer S5 it's running Kit Kat 4.4.4 NK2. I already know Towelroot doesnt work to root it. I'm using a Mac with Hemidall 1.4.0 installed and can't access Windows XP in Virtual Box no longer as it won't install properly. Is there any way I can fix my Verizon Dev Edition and or root this new Verizon S5 without having access to an actual PC using ODIN? Last summer I flashed the wrong file on my Dev Edition and it locked the bootloader making it a consumer version. Currently Verizon S5 Dev Editions from Samsung are on backorder. I'm setup to be emailed when they are in stock and it will take 4 weeks for them to get the product according to their site. Thanks for the help. This has been cross posted in another forum pertaining to root but less extensive in detail.
I have already towlroot installed on my current S5 and files to downgrade even though im already on NK2 stock.
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Did you make a backup of your aboot partition from the Developer Edition? The second you get a new Developer Edition, don't do anything and PM me. I'll walk you through how to backup your Developer Edition bootloader for safekeeping in case you need to unlock your device again. It's very important to make a backup first thing.
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ryanbg said:
Did you make a backup of your aboot partition from the Developer Edition? The second you get a new Developer Edition, don't do anything and PM me. I'll walk you through how to backup your Developer Edition bootloader for safekeeping in case you need to unlock your device again. It's very important to make a backup first thing.
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Hi Ryan thanks for writing me back on my issues with the S5. Ok well yesterday I got Virtual Box to work as I updated the version and installed Windows XP on my Mac. I had used it previously and successfully had used Odin before. However this time I cant get it to recognize any USB devices even after ejecting them from the Mac part. I called Samsung support of the broken Dev S5 and after lengthy talks they refuse to fix it as it's in the system already as "Beyond Economical Repair" from last summer. Another person I reached out to from Brickedmyphone.com got back to me and said he thinks my devices via USB isnt recognized because of emmc failure. When I went to recover my Dev S5 I thought i had a backup in Safestrap but it turned out I didn't. So I did a factory reset thru that then backed out and had it in download mode in which it stayed on. Pulled the battery power on and it stays on Android boot screen now. I never did backup the bootloader of my Dev S5 because no one ever had told me to do so. Never would have thought about doing such a crucial thing. My biggest worry with another Dev S5 is will they be available again as they are on current backorder? And will they still ship out of box with version 4.4.2? When I had the S5 it wouldn't system update at all so my guess is that's the only version it will have unlike the regular S5 that now has 4.4.4? I guess with the Dev Edition weather I flash anything on it or not is that the warranty after 30 days is void. I figured if I didn't flash a custom recovery on that phone I would have been ok but thats not the case. I've had TWRP on my past two Droids and rarely do I run into problems.
As far as the regular S5 from Verizon i plan to return it for majority of my money back by the 17th. But what do you recommend I do for a phone in the mean time? Unless I can get my bricked S5 up and running again. It has a broken Sd card reader anyhow so eventually would have to be replaced.
Note 4 Dev Edition
I'm considering getting Note 4 Dev Edition even if the S5 Dev is available in weeks to come from now. I read someone posted a custom rooted deoxedized without knox rom for it. Otherwise your not able to root it? I plan to try a Note 4 from the store once i return this here consumer S5 to Verizon next week Friday. @ryanbg
Droid9684 said:
I'm considering getting Note 4 Dev Edition even if the S5 Dev is available in weeks to come from now. I read someone posted a custom rooted deoxedized without knox rom for it. Otherwise your not able to root it? I plan to try a Note 4 from the store once i return this here consumer S5 to Verizon next week Friday. @ryanbg
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You can most definitely root any Dev edition regardless of ROM. Send me a message when you have the phone in hand and I'll give you a hand. I'll help you back up your bootloader too.
ryanbg said:
You can most definitely root any Dev edition regardless of ROM. Send me a message when you have the phone in hand and I'll give you a hand. I'll help you back up your bootloader too.
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Thanks for the reply although very late. I ended up going with a rooted Samsung Galaxy S5 off ebay which is new running 4.4.2. By the time I purchased this phone the Note 4 and S5 Dev editions where still on backorder and I needed a phone quickly. I do like the Note 4 and can't wait for the Note 5 this fall to see what it will be like. I also have an inetrest in the LG G4 heard good things about the specs on it.
Hello, I may be having trouble finding the info, but I am hoping to find a good, clean ROM for my AT&T Galaxy Tab 4 8 inch tablet (SM-T337A). I have rooted it, and the main reason I want a new ROM is to make sure I can unlock it when I dump AT&T for T-Mobile, so other options to do that would be appreciated, also. Thanks for any help!
I have a Galaxy Tab 4 from AT&T as well. As far as I can tell, the device has a locked bootloader, and there hasn't been a development effort to try to bypass it. So, in the meantime, we're unable to install custom ROMs. Thanks AT&T.
spdivr said:
Hello, I may be having trouble finding the info, but I am hoping to find a good, clean ROM for my AT&T Galaxy Tab 4 8 inch tablet (SM-T337A). I have rooted it, and the main reason I want a new ROM is to make sure I can unlock it when I dump AT&T for T-Mobile, so other options to do that would be appreciated, also. Thanks for any help!
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spdivr said:
Hello, I may be having trouble finding the info, but I am hoping to find a good, clean ROM for my AT&T Galaxy Tab 4 8 inch tablet (SM-T337A). I have rooted it, and the main reason I want a new ROM is to make sure I can unlock it when I dump AT&T for T-Mobile, so other options to do that would be appreciated, also. Thanks for any help!
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If you just want to use it on TMO, you can have it unlocked. I had mine unlocked (I had to use a third party unlock service because AT&T wouldn't do it for some reason). But, just so you know, it is not eligible for the free 200mb plan yet. I made a request to TMO to add this device to the list so I can sign up for it. If you want to go for paid plans, it works just fine.
Hi there,
I would love to buy a S5 Active in the U.S. an use it in Germany. Since it is looked to AT&T which we don't have in Germany, I want to root it.
For the past 2 days I did some research in this forum. It turned out that it's more complicated than I thought.
My English is not that good, so before I actually buy a phone I want to make sure that I understood everything... more or less.
So, if I get my hands on a phone with 4.4. or 5.0 on it, there is no problem to root it because there is no blocked bootloader, right?
I don't know though which ROM I should use in that case? Which one runs best on the S5 Active?
If the phone is running on 5.1. there is the problem with the locked bootloader, right? In that case I use this guide?
If I get a phone that is running on 6.0 or 6.1 I need to downgrade to 5.0 or 5.1 using this guide and the just do one of the two steps above accordingly?
Does that mean it doesn't matter if the phone I buy runs on 4.4, 5.0, 5.1, 6.0, or 6.1? Can I root in anyway?
Thanks heaps for your help!
Cheers Sam
you dont need to root it for international use. If its not bound to a contract with at&t anymore, then youd just need to contact at&t to have them unlock it for international use. if youre worried about the cost to call at&t, just get the textnow app, get a usa phone number and call them via the app over wifi for absolutely no cost. or, if your worried about your english being a barrier, go to idoneapps.com and they can unlock it for you for $35. I unlocked 2 G900P (sprint S5) with them.
Hi, thanks for the quick reply.
Well, I also though about just getting a unlocked one or to unlock a locked one. BUT then I have all those atnt Apps that I can't uninstall.
So I figured, the only way to get rid of them is to root the device right?
Cheers, Sam
unclesamile said:
Hi, thanks for the quick reply.
Well, I also though about just getting a unlocked one or to unlock a locked one. BUT then I have all those atnt Apps that I can't uninstall.
So I figured, the only way to get rid of them is to root the device right?
Cheers, Sam
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youre correct, those specific apps do require root to remove. Then youd want something like Titanium backup to get that job done
I havent found anything so far that will show me how to root a G870A ACTIVE on 5.0 (OF3) all these links go to methods that show how to do it on a G900 (non active) if anyone can point me in a direction that would work i would much appreciate it.
electric101 said:
I havent found anything so far that will show me how to root a G870A ACTIVE on 5.0 (OF3) all these links go to methods that show how to do it on a G900 (non active) if anyone can point me in a direction that would work i would much appreciate it.
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i think the bootloader is still locked on that device. Not getting much love from devs either. Not sure there is a solution for this, sorry good sir
Well I received the SM-G780A today. It is not locked to AT&T anymore so I can actually use it without rooting it.
However the preloaded apps are just a pain. So I am thinking about rooting it anyway.
The Android Version is 5.0 and the Kernel Version 3.4.0-4443965. Do I understood it right that the bootloader is not locked in Androit 5.0 yet?
What's the best way to root it and is there any chance to get a rooted Android 6 running on it?
Cheers Sam
Hello friends!
I'm considering upgrading to a SGS8 and before making a purchase I need your help confirming what I should look for if I want to have an unlocked bootloader in order to install whatever ROM I please ans be free from Samsung's tyrany.
Please tell me if im wrong or missing something here when looking for one of these on Amazon:
-Model: SM-G950F or SM-G950FD (This is because these models came to the market with the "OEM unlock" option under dev settings and they have an Exynos chip)
-Running stock Android Nougat 7.0
-Bootloader version: ??
Got it right? Thanks for your help!!!!
Khul said:
Hello friends!
I'm considering upgrading to a SGS8 and before making a purchase I need your help confirming what I should look for if I want to have an unlocked bootloader in order to install whatever ROM I please ans be free from Samsung's tyrany.
Please tell me if im wrong or missing something here when looking for one of these on Amazon:
-Model: SM-G950F or SM-G950FD (This is because these models came to the market with the "OEM unlock" option under dev settings and they have an Exynos chip)
-Running stock Android Nougat 7.0
-Bootloader version: ??
Got it right? Thanks for your help!!!!
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Nobody here will guarantee anything probably, and neither do I, but I'd say that what you wrote sounds good.
You can send it back within 30 days with Amazon anyway
thanks mate, just looking forward an educated piece of advice from someone versed on the whole story and current dev state about this phone =)
I understand there is a whole bunch of models SM-G9500, SM-G950F, SM-G950FD, SM-G950U, SM-G950U1, SM-G950W, SM-G950N....
Some Snapdragon, some Exynos...
I understand its best to go for an Exynos one, and among those the SM-G950F, SM-G950FD.... perhaps someone can tell me why is that or correct me?
F & FD are same. They use the same firmware.
The only difference is FD version has hybrid sim slot (2 sim or 1 sim + sd card).
Whereas F version has 1 sim + sd card option only.
Khul said:
thanks mate, just looking forward an educated piece of advice from someone versed on the whole story and current dev state about this phone =)
I understand there is a whole bunch of models SM-G9500, SM-G950F, SM-G950FD, SM-G950U, SM-G950U1, SM-G950W, SM-G950N....
Some Snapdragon, some Exynos...
I understand its best to go for an Exynos one, and among those the SM-G950F, SM-G950FD.... perhaps someone can tell me why is that or correct me?
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Definitely go for an exynos version. Go for a G950F/FD. What these people said is correct, FD is dual SIM version. they are unlocked international versions with unlocked bootloaders. There is quite a lot of development ongoing for these devices.
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Definitely go for an exynos version. Go for a G950F/FD. What these people said is correct, FD is dual SIM version. they are unlocked international versions with unlocked bootloaders. There is quite a lot of development ongoing for these devices.
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All replies appreciatted and thanked for!
Thank you for your input peops!