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http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/...yboard-multiple-users-photo-sphere/in/3335719
The highlight is support for Miracast, an industry-standard Wi-Fi display sharing protocol that allows new devices like the Nexus 4 to stream audio and video to TVs. (Think AirPlay with broad industry support.) Miracast boxes for existing TVs are expected to go on sale from a variety of companies soon, and Google expects them to cost well under $99. And Miracast will soon be built directly into TVs, which is pretty exciting — LG's already committed to building it into all of its 2013 smart TVs. The technology worked quite well in our demo of Android 4.2 on a Nexus 4, and Google says developers can use each screen independently for big-screen gaming and other apps.
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Seems like you could do this with your Nexus 4 and play gaming emulators with a bluetooth game controller on your big screen TV wirelessly :victory:
I wonder how well the n64 or Playstation emulators run on the 2gb of ram + S4 Pro cpu?
Is Miracast a brand of TV? I was try to find some information about this, but I don't think it's out yet. Is it more of a device like the Apple TV that our device will link to, or would it be more like an Apple TV sort of thing? Either way, I've never really tried Wi-Fi direct or any branch of it so I guess I'm excited.
Wi-Di
It looks like the Newest Intel Wi-Di software supports Miracast as well.
Looks like I'm buying a Miracast adapter now.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/...yboard-multiple-users-photo-sphere/in/3335719
Seems like you could do this with your Nexus 4 and play gaming emulators with a bluetooth game controller on your big screen TV wirelessly :victory:
I wonder how well the n64 or Playstation emulators run on the 2gb of ram + S4 Pro cpu?
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My Xperia Play with Qualcomm 1ghz cpu and old ass Adreno 205 gpu can handle N64 and PSX games. I get 1000fps in 2d PSX games with my previous Galaxy S3 which has quadcore Mali-400 gpu. I don't think the S4 Pro and its new Adreno GPU which is supposed to be just as fast or faster will have any problem.
I do plan to get the Nexus 4, but I still prefer my Xperia Play for classic gaming.
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My Xperia Play with Qualcomm 1ghz cpu and old ass Adreno 205 gpu can handle N64 and PSX games. I get 1000fps in 2d games playing FPSE with my previous Galaxy S3 which has quadcore Mali-400. I don't think the S4 Pro and its new Adreno GPU will have any problem.
I still prefer my Xperia Play for classic gaming.
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Interesting. It's been awhile since I've used android so I wasn't sure. So you can play Final Fantasy 7 with no hiccups and the music is in sync? I remember when I could play FF7 and I wasn't sure if the hardware wasn't fast enough or if the emulator needed to be updated and tweaked.
Any emulator you would recommend for FF-7 or Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time?
The Play can handle those games. FPSE is probably the best PSX emulator, if you turn off framelimiter it can go over 100fps. The touchpad (joystick) is working too, but it depends if the app support it or not. For N64 I use N64oid, it might not be 100% smooth on some games, but playable for most, I suspect Mupen64Plus could be faster. I also recommend emulators made by "explusalpha". Anything 2D can be handled easily.
This device doesn't seem to have TV output though. Also you can't have too big hands because the gamepad is a bit on the small size so you might get cramp over long sessions. It might be better to get a bluetooth gamepad in that case.
You can get a refurb Verizon Play for very cheap on ebay right now. But if you want to install custom rom, only the international (R800i) can unlock its bootloader (without paid service), because the Play required flashing the kernel separately by fastboot in order for the rom to boot.
Otherwise, this phone have similar spec to the HTC Nexus One, so its quite underpowered by today standard. It does have have nice stereo speakers and excellent sound quality. It's camera is a bit less detailed than the Galaxy Nexus, but actually perform better over different lighting. It even support GLONASS.
I have an iControlPad, which also an excellent bluetooth gamepad, but I never use it with the convenience of the Play.
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It's camera is a bit less detailed than the Galaxy Nexus, but actually perform better over different lighting. It even support GLONASS.
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Why do you think it will have GLONASS? I can see it nowhere in specs. And, no I don't count gsmarena - they posted that as rumour specs weeks ago....
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Monkeybrew said:
eksasol said:
It's camera is a bit less detailed than the Galaxy Nexus, but actually perform better over different lighting. It even support GLONASS.
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Why do you think it will have GLONASS? I can see it nowhere in specs. And, no I don't count gsmarena - they posted that as rumour specs weeks ago....
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I was talking about my Xperia Play.
Sent from my R800x
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I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
Windiddy said:
I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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Yes I need NVIDIA graphic card in the PC tower.
for me, streaming steam games isnt the deciding factor...it 's that project shield has tegra 4 which is claimed to be 2.5x faster than ouya 's tegra 3 with 45% less power consumption AND that a new version of ouya will be available by next year....all that aside, i believe project shield is a lot more portable than ouya...unless you manage to link ouya to your phone 's screen or something, you 're gonna need an actual screen .-.
Why would I want to stream games? I'd need the hardware in my PC to do so and at that point...why am I not gaming on my gaming desktop? The logic doesn't follow with that at all.
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Exactly! For me my android phone and Bluetooth controller are good enough for "mobile gaming". The ouya will make a good xbmc streaming device. But that's about all I'll use it for.
The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
are two different devices too ...
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The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
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Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
dibblebill said:
Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
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Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield
New i think if i would have to decide nvidia project shield and Ouya i would take the project shield
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Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
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Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
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Yeah, I knew it was significantly faster than teh Tegra 3 tablets, but the claim was that it would be superior to the Tegra 4 speeds... I believe it'll be fantastic for Tegra 3.
uoya is the best
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youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Or SNES to GameBoy.
Still, though, I'd like to have both. Simply for the reason that one is on-the-go gaming, and one is console gaming.
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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in some weeks there will be a streaming service available with which you don't need any nvidia graphics card in the pc...just a tegra 3/4 device and you can play pc games also on android devices
You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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Yes because of splashtop or demo version of nvidias streaming service or so
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with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Time will Tell
I'm curious to see how the nexus player develops
but right now I'm satisfied with the firetv I got XBMC on there and all my repos
so right now I'm good
I agreed, It probably locked bootloader and unless Google changed their mind letting us have a unlock bootloader = addicted flasher custom ROM. I might email some google developers and see what their response regard the bootloader status.
rbox said:
You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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100% sure? Google TV and Chrome products have been locked down. ChromeBook and Chromecast. This device is called a Nexus, and i cant name one Nexus device that is locked down. Even my nexus q was easily unlocked!!! Even though i can see them locking the device i disagree with the level of certainty you have (100%)
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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Less Ram: Good point, but one of the android forums mention this wont be a problem with the intel chip. Time will tell.
lack of hardwire ethernet: the fire tv has FastEthernet which is limited by 100, Wireless N gives fastethernet a run for its money and this device supports AC. Way faster than fastethernet.
I will be giving it a shot I think. Need an extra unit for the bedroom TV anyway. Will wait to see if it is rootable first though I think
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
retroben said:
Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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This is only one device released by google, nvidia could release their own android tv device along with htc, samsung, acer, asus, motorla, hisense.... Etc... Even though i doubt nvidia will release a box since they already sell an nvidia shield tablet (which doesnt support dts pass through). Even though im sticking with my firetv i am interested to see others join. Especially if this pushes amazon to properly support vc1, 24p, 4k, dts-hd/truehd, 802.11ac.
I don't think you guys are remembering exactly what "Nexus" means. It means do whatever you want to the device.
Yes the Nexus 7 was locked but they made it easy to unlock for us to mod. The whole nexus line is the play ground line if you want to mod and have fun with your device.
I for one am going to be jumping ship because quite frankly, Amazon has, and always will be, absolutely garbage when it comes to making anything interface related. Their app sucks, their web interface sucks, their amazon fire TV interface sucks, everything they design is garbage when it comes to UI.
I've had a blast with this device but with them locking it down...no bueno.
As per the wireless worry, it's 5GHz AC. If you're doing anything that's going to be able to tax THAT, having an ethernet cable isn't going to save you.
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
mroneeyedboh said:
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Not exactly. Bootloader is still locked.
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
retroben said:
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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1 GB is fine. Unlike phones we wont be multi-tasking as much. The Nexus Player will mostly only worry about the active application which is why 1 GB will be fine. As for the CPU its an Inel Atom which has been shown to run as fast as a Snapdragon 801, for comparison sakes the FireTV uses a Snapdragon 600.
Its not exciting enough for me to jump over to it. My AFTV is doing everything i need right now, not to mention the lack of ethernet is a deal breaker. Unless wireless AC has come down quite a bit in the last few months, Im not ready to make that move.
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to have to really WOW me to get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to really WOW me get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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Would love to see one with OTA Antenna & PVR built in. Would be the perfect machine. For now a rooted FireTV will be the best for the price.
I'll wait for the actual user reviews to start showing up before I make a final decision, but at this point I'm leaning toward no. The biggest drawback to the FireTV for me is lack of storage. 8G is just not enough, I will not buy another FTV game until an official firmware update includes support for USB drives. Just a wild guess, but I suspect the Nexus Player has this same limitation. I'm willing to wait a bit longer and pay a bit more for a different Android TV box with better specs and hardware support.
Just saw this from androidauthority, post here in case any geeks like myself is interested:
Brand: Tronsmart
Model : Draco AW80
CPU: Allwinner a80 octa core
GPU: POWERVR G6230
RAM: 2GB OR 4GB
ROM: 16GB OR 32GB
OS: Android 4.4 Kitkat or Linux( in Nov.)
More information,you can check in tronsmart site here.
I love the 4GB Telos version, how about you guys?
I just want to know if it streams 4k Netflix and Amazon?
halon17 said:
I just want to know if it streams 4k Netflix and Amazon?
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as it can stream 4k, i think yes
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...-WIFI-802-11AC-Bluetooth-OTA-DLNA-336181.html
thenobol said:
as it can stream 4k, i think yes
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...-WIFI-802-11AC-Bluetooth-OTA-DLNA-336181.html
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Yeah ive looked at that before. I would need to see proof before i spent money on it because that is all i would need it for.
Haven issues with xbmc in acestream closing down all the time. In Google crome. Looking forward for new rom if no joy going back?
Was also wondering about this TV box. Looking for a powerful device that can handle heavy gaming. Planing on plying ps1 emulator, n64, and Dreamcast.
Is there any droid box that's the best for games and HD movies?
I'm looking for a box on which I can run XBMC and Plex Media Server ( one stream only) smoothly. The AW80 supports upto 8GB. If they release a box with 8GB, I will buy in heart-bit.
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Was also wondering about this TV box. Looking for a powerful device that can handle heavy gaming. Planing on plying ps1 emulator, n64, and Dreamcast.
Is there any droid box that's the best for games and HD movies?
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The new Minix Neo X8-H Plus looks pretty powerful. Seems like the devices running Octo-core Mali450 or t764 (i..e Rockchip RK3288) GPUs are usually pretty solid for gaming. Although, anything that compares to a Galaxy S4 or above should be able to handle emulators at 1080p no issue on Android.
Tronsmart Draco aw 80
I just got my hands on this beast. Got it for Xmas. I can say that it is a powerhouse like nothing I can compare it to on the market as of yet. Games run smoothly, video streaming is flawless, and UI is buttery smooth. If I had a 4k TV I would be able to confirm that it does play it. I have the note edge smart phone and the 4k video playback on the Draco works. Looks wonderful on my 46 HD TV. Better than anything else I can use to play it back on in my house. I also picked up the logitech k400 wireless keyboard and mouse combo, works like it should with no problems. All hotkeys work like they should. The fact that this thing came pre rooted is fantastic. Able to use the sixaxis app for my ps3 controller. I would recommend this to anyone looking to turn any "dumb" TV into a "smart" TV.
I’m trying to get Linux on my Nvidia Shield but I understand it’s running on mobile CPUs, I am wanting to have PC CPUs installed so that I am able to play Steam, Blizard and Rockstar games. Will offer the necessary funds for completion.