I am on Stock KitKat rooted, I've tried Viper and I tried one of the other audio enhancing methods, and none of them seemed to do very much for the audio in terms of making it any louder. Is there a mod out there for my specific model that will make it louder? It's kind of strange, my boyfriends phone is loud as can be when it comes to ringtones and videos but mine is quiet as a mouse. Viper made the audio worse and I'm afraid to try and figure out what numbers work best for the snd_whatever_taiko file.
So basically I'm asking if there's anything I can do at this point?
Edit: If it helps I'm on AT&T, Kitkat with all the latest OTA's.
There is a sound increase mod 1.3 on the development thread... Install both speaker and headphone zips... I did that and my speaker is really loud... For my headphone music I also use viper and turned up the gain completely
Hi All,
Just wanted to share my experience with Viper. I tried A.R.I.S.E on supermanRom 2.4 and found samsung adapt sound to be much cleaner and superior to VIPER on my sennheiser earphones. All Viper did was just amp the sound with the AGC turned on and make it sound like i am inside a boombox. I tried turning off the AGC, still i feel samsung adapt sound to be more punchy and cleaner. What is your experience? I've read all this hype on Viper, but all to realize its just a hype.
You results will vary based on what settings you use, choosing too many may lead to overprocecing. You may want to look at profiles for viper. For me a.r.i.s.e deuteronomy 2.4 works great. Also, did you try any other options, agc is meant to amp the sound.
coolbuy said:
Hi All,
Just wanted to share my experience with Viper. I tried A.R.I.S.E on supermanRom 2.4 and found samsung adapt sound to be much cleaner and superior to VIPER on my sennheiser earphones. All Viper did was just amp the sound with the AGC turned on and make it sound like i am inside a boombox. I tried turning off the AGC, still i feel samsung adapt sound to be more punchy and cleaner. What is your experience? I've read all this hype on Viper, but all to realize its just a hype.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you. I think it depends on the headphones being used. Personally I find I get the best sound with viper and a custom IRS. The best sound I ever got out of the aux port on a Samsung phone with the Wolfson chip requires faux sound; I find it is the only way to increase the gain without crackling. Realistically I would be fine without any audio modifications if I could increase the gain through faux sound.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you. I think it depends on the headphones being used. Personally I find I get the best sound with viper and a custom IRS. The best sound I ever got out of the aux port on a Samsung phone with the Wolfson chip requires faux sound; I find it is the only way to increase the gain without crackling. Realistically I would be fine without any audio modifications if I could increase the gain through faux sound.
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Surely using the volume mod is enough?
I found a lot of sound mods simply raised the noise floor of my headphones and increased background hiss regardless. Ears got used to it after a while but I am happy using my RHA MA 750i and M50x without Viper or ARISE. I hear no additional noise when using the sound mod that increases volume from the headphone jack.
Galactus said:
Surely using the volume mod is enough?
I found a lot of sound mods simply raised the noise floor of my headphones and increased background hiss regardless. Ears got used to it after a while but I am happy using my RHA MA 750i and M50x without Viper or ARISE. I hear no additional noise when using the sound mod that increases volume from the headphone jack.
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It's not that the volume mod is "enough". I always found that volume mods which modify the mixer values push the gain to a point that causes it to crackle at certain decible levels. Whenever I modified the EQ after boosting the volume with faux sound I could get clear bass and treble at high volumes without a crackling sound. Is it because faux sound worked at a kernel level? Therefore actually boosting the amount of power outputted through the headphone jack, whereas mixer value changes attempted to reach a certain decibel level with stock power output?
I would like to add that I am not unappreciative of all the work developers have put into audio development for our phone. Without Zubi's sound mod the audio on the s7 edge would be pathetic IMO.
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It's not that the volume mod is "enough". I always found that volume mods which modify the mixer values push the gain to a point that causes it to crackle at certain decible levels. Whenever I modified the EQ after boosting the volume with faux sound I could get clear bass and treble at high volumes without a crackling sound. Is it because faux sound worked at a kernel level? Therefore actually boosting the amount of power outputted through the headphone jack, whereas mixer value changes attempted to reach a certain decibel level with stock power output?
I would like to add that I am not unappreciative of all the work developers have put into audio development for our phone. Without Zubi's sound mod the audio on the s7 edge would be pathetic IMO.
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It is possible that it is due to the kernel, but with zubi's sound mod I get no noticeable distortion on bass or crackling highs, even on my modded Piston 2 that is very sibilant. Volume levels are also way above what I would need, so I am just a bit surprised that you have to crank the volume up so much that EQ boosts are actually causing this. Power hungry cans, I can imagine causing this but if you are talking about IEMS then yeah I am surprised lol
I use one of the DFX-Hiphop-modern with the AudioPhile4 pofile, and both the sound in my car and in mu headphones are insane!
My car has Bowers & Wilkins with 27 speakers. It plays like hell has burnt over with my S7 and Bluetooth connection
Yes the stock ROM sound is punchier and cleaner than what viper has to offer.. I removed viper after thorough testing..
Hello all ZF3 owners,
I own ze520kl model and It is just me or sound is terrible after updating to Android 7? I have (almost) no bass sounds, anyone else feels this kind of difference? Equalizer makes a little of difference, but not like previously did on Android 6.0.
2 different set of headphones and 2 different player apps.
Regards,
Dan.
Others reported the same.
Looks like I have to hold on to update my phone.
The Android N update for the Zenfone 3 enables AudioWizard audio processing with wired headphones, meaning that any EQ you have on your phone's speakers will carry over to the headphones. There also may be a bug that activates certain AudioWizard presets on headphones without warning. Either way, you can fix the problem of headphone audio sounding tinny or weird by going into the Sound and Vibration settings menu while your headphones are plugged in, and selecting AudioWizard. Once in AudioWizard, set the preferences to your liking or just select Pure mode if you don't want any EQ or anything like that.
Big thanks, it worked like a charm!
Regards!
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The Android N update for the Zenfone 3 enables AudioWizard audio processing with wired headphones, meaning that any EQ you have on your phone's speakers will carry over to the headphones. There also may be a bug that activates certain AudioWizard presets on headphones without warning. Either way, you can fix the problem of headphone audio sounding tinny or weird by going into the Sound and Vibration settings menu while your headphones are plugged in, and selecting AudioWizard. Once in AudioWizard, set the preferences to your liking or just select Pure mode if you don't want any EQ or anything like that.
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Will try that settings. Thanks for the advice. :good::good::good:
Sorry for reviving this old thread. I updated to Nougat the day I got this phone and learned that audio quality is worse than my last phone, even with AudioWizard set to Pure. Will audio sound better with the AudioWizard app and service disabled?
http://imgur.com/a/XtSMR
I also found two audio packages, "com.asus.maxxaudio" and "com.asus.maxxaudiowizard" which I can't disable via ADB because I'm not rooted.
I have the Sony MDR-XB950N1 and they sound awesome on an iphone and ipad. But they sound like crap on my android device. I've tried both NucleaROM 7.2.1 and Bliss 6.4, and the sound is too low on both ROMs. Kernel Auditor's sound setting doesn't help at all. I would like to stay away from Viper4Android. I don't need to enhance the sound. I need to be able to adjust the gain or amplify the sound.
I don't get android at all as this has happened to some Bluetooth headphone I've used in the past. But for a USD$300.00 pair otf over-the-ear headphones, this should not happen! It sounds like a pair of headphones you buy at your local 7-eleven. Maybe I should go back to the official firmware?
Interestingly.. i installed CM13 6.01 (Dec 2016) and BT volume is 100x better than the ROMs I mentioned above. This is without the kernel auditor sound mod. I DON'T GET IT.. But at least my earlobes, eardrums, and headphone are vibrating at max volume again. I still would like a solution for Nougat ROM.
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Interestingly.. i installed CM13 6.01 (Dec 2016) and BT volume is 100x better than the ROMs I mentioned above. This is without the kernel auditor sound mod. I DON'T GET IT.. But at least my earlobes, eardrums, and headphone are vibrating at max volume again. I still would like a solution for Nougat ROM.
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You can have a look at here https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/themes-apps/apps-to-gain-microphone-volume-t3450390 it's not only for microphone problems
Yea enabling volume level works great with my daily driver, NulceaROM 7.1.x. Thanks for the heads up! Its on par with CM13 and iDevices. I'm not convinced that this issue only happens to our device. I used to have a MI phone and BT volume with nougat was abysmal also.
I feel my headphones sound significantly lower on latest January update.
Did anyone else notice this? Did they do it to deal with the "hissing" issue some people had?
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I feel my headphones sound significantly lower on latest January update.
Did anyone else notice this? Did they do it to deal with the "hissing" issue some people had?
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So are the hissing issue gone?
soralz said:
So are the hissing issue gone?
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I'm on the latest build. The hissing is for me gone (or so quiet I don't here it anymore. At about volume 1 or 2 you maybe be able to here some. But like I said, to quiet to notice and only when you play something without sound ) I think it got quiter, but still damn loud on max. I love it.
Petty Palkovics said:
I think it got quiter, but still damn loud on max. I love it.
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Of course it's not "damn loud" anymore, it's significantly lower and not enough loud.
Does anyone know a way to being back the old audio output on headphones?
gordito_gr said:
Of course it's not "damn loud" anymore, it's significantly lower and not enough loud.
Does anyone know a way to being back the old audio output on headphones?
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Maybe the build in equalizer could help you? You can easily access it through google play music settings..
Maybe its your phone? Or your headphones? When I'm on max I can literally use my headphones as speakers...
There is a new headphones audio menu with Oreo.
Configuration > Sound > headphones and audio effects.
There are some headphone presets, some are louder than others.
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There is a new headphones audio menu with Oreo.
Configuration > Sound > headphones and audio effects.
There are some headphone presets, some are louder than others.
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Maybe that to. Personally I didn't notice a big difference change those settings. It could also be your music player. SoundCloud for example can't be equalized through normal ways.
Hissing is still there, maybe a tiny bit lower. Max volume is still "damn loud", my max comfortable listening level (without ear bleeding) is not more than 50%. I often listen at volume 1 or 2 (out of 30).
Both earphone volume and loud speaker volume have been reduced for me.
Prabin813 said:
Both earphone volume and loud speaker volume have been reduced for me.
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Well, personally, I think that the speaker sucks, quiet or loud. I never use it. I really bought the phone for its "rare" headphone jack, which since the latest update is wonderful. Maybe headphone hisses a little bit, maybe they cancelled the Oreo update ( I believe) and maybe the speaker are horrible. But it's the best you can get with almost fully stock Android and a headphone jack.
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Yes, I noticed this too...
I noticed this too as the volume that I used to play music at (about 60%) with my headphones was MUCH to soft after the update! Something definitely lowered the volume, though it SEEMS that it is more on headphones than the speaker. I have to go to max when on headphones to listen to music now. I say 'seems' because I don't use the speaker for much more than phone calls, and while it is quieter, it is not so quiet you cannot hear the conversation. It would be nice if there was a way to get the volume back, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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I noticed this too as the volume that I used to play music at (about 60%) with my headphones was MUCH to soft after the update! Something definitely lowered the volume, though it SEEMS that it is more on headphones than the speaker. I have to go to max when on headphones to listen to music now. I say 'seems' because I don't use the speaker for much more than phone calls, and while it is quieter, it is not so quiet you cannot hear the conversation. It would be nice if there was a way to get the volume back, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Volume at max? Wow, what headphones do you use?
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Volume at max? Wow, what headphones do you use?
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Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro HD that I got a deal on when I bought the A1. They are ok... not great, but ok for what I paid for them.
I've tried multiple headphones since the update, and the volume issue is true across the board with anything plugged into the headphone jack. I have NOT tried bluetooth headphones as I don't keep bluetooth enabled.
My wife's red A1, which is still on Nougat, is much louder than my A1 on Oreo, update 1. (still haven't gotten the latest one)
--KB
maybe they lowered to power of the DAC because everyone was moaning about a tiny hissing noise, the only way to stop it is to buy more powerful headphone or lower the DAC, now its quieter we cant have it both ways guys
KB_Thailand said:
Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro HD that I got a deal on when I bought the A1. They are ok... not great, but ok for what I paid for them.
I've tried multiple headphones since the update, and the volume issue is true across the board with anything plugged into the headphone jack. I have NOT tried bluetooth headphones as I don't keep bluetooth enabled.
My wife's red A1, which is still on Nougat, is much louder than my A1 on Oreo, update 1. (still haven't gotten the latest one)
--KB
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I honestly can't imagine listening to any of my IEMs at max volume. I can't get comfortably over 50% while commuting (bus, train etc). In quiet environment my volume's somewhere between ~3% and 16%. I would accept further lowering of overall volume to remove the hissing noise in a blink of an eye (and hopefully I'll be able to do that with custom kernel)
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I honestly can't imagine listening to any of my IEMs at max volume. I can't get comfortably over 50% while commuting (bus, train etc). In quiet environment my volume's somewhere between ~3% and 16%. I would accept further lowering of overall volume to remove the hissing noise in a blink of an eye (and hopefully I'll be able to do that with custom kernel)
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I've never noticed the hissing noise people talk about so much, but then, my ears are old so it may be that. Before the Oreo update, a tick over half was plenty loud. After, I had to raise it, a lot. Some songs require max, while most are ok at around 85-90%. So yeah, there was a huge reduction in sound volume on my phone with the update. At least, I THINK it was the update. I installed a Sony app to record sound. I've only owned one Sony phone, an Experia 3Z. The sound on that phone was horrible. Even at max volume, you could not hear it ring if it was in your pocket, and music was always not loud enough on headphones. I may uninstall that app and see if the volume level returns just to be sure it wasn't the app and not the update, but doubt the app would affect the whole system.
I feel that too that they reduced the volume for the audio out put via 3.5 mm jack.
I got update today, and can't really tell if there is any difference in volume. I still use no more than 30-40% of volume (my head would explode with MAX), and there is still some hissing.
This applies to Oreo patch 1. Patch 2 arrived today but I have not installed it yet.:
I am not sure what I did (or what I did that made the difference) but I deleted the Sony app, then went into the settings on my music app and did some tweaking on the modes there, and the volume is now louder than it was. I can set the volume to about 55-60% now and it is loud enough. A few songs in my library still need higher settings, but I am assuming that is because they are pretty old, converted to .mp3 files from CD's (remember those?) way back in the late 1990s/early 2000s.
Bottom line: I am not sure that the update really hurt sound volume. It could have been a combo of app differences with the update. Still no hissing that I can hear.
Regards,
--KB
EDIT: I just did the new Oreo update (89MB) and the sound was different again. I went into my music app and changed the EQ to Flat and the sound was much better. I did not hear any hissing, even with classical music, but again, old ears may be the issue there.