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Has anyone tried the Bootloader of the H990DS Dual SIM version?
auktionadmin said:
Has anyone tried the Bootloader of the H990DS Dual SIM version?
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at the moment Nobody unblocked H990DS
you must wait couple of months
ONLY
F800L
F800K
H918 T-Mobile is possible
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ONLY
F800L
F800K
H918 T-Mobile is possible
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Are there only two of three Korean variants which are unlocked yet? Can the F800S not be unlocked later?
moosaa said:
at the moment Nobody unblocked H990DS
you must wait couple of months
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Are you sure that the H990DS Korean variant can be unlocked in couple of month. If H900DS can be unlocked I will buy it in Germany now. But I must be sure that it can be unlocked later.
Are you sure that the H990DS Korean variant can be unlocked in couple of month. If H900DS can be unlocked I will buy it in Germany now. But I must be sure that it can be unlocked later.[/QUOTE]
I'm NOT sure 100%
H990DS is NOT KOREAN
It's Taiwan Dual SIM & S_H_I_T
LINK :
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v20-model-numbers-differences/
I advice you NEVER DO NOT buy :
H990DS ( DUAL SIM = F_U_C_K it )
BUY BELOW INTERNATIONAL MODEL NUMBER ONLY ( SINGLE SIM ) :
LG H990 V20 TD-LTE / H990TR
LINK :
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/O81Jn/lg-h990-v20-td-lte-h990tr/countries
I think it will launch in South Africa and Turkey in November
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moosaa said:
I'm NOT sure 100%
I advice you NEVER DO NOT buy :
H990DS ( DUAL SIM = F_U_C_K it )
BUY BELOW INTERNATIONAL MODEL NUMBER ONLY ( SINGLE SIM ) :
LG H990 V20 TD-LTE / H990TR
LINK :
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/O81Jn/lg-h990-v20-td-lte-h990tr/countries
I think it will launch in South Africa and Turkey in November
Instagram : MOOSA36
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Ok I think you adviced me the Single SIM variant for better custom ROM community here in xda?
Then I will by a Single SIM variant where it's possible to go in fastboot and fastboot command work. I think H918 T-Mobile US version is the best for custom ROM community, right? Or are other Single SIM variants if rooted as good as the H918 variant?
Anyway I will not buy the Dual SIM variant.
auktionadmin said:
Ok I think you adviced me the Single SIM variant for better custom ROM community here in xda?
Then I will by a Single SIM variant where it's possible to go in fastboot and fastboot command work. I think H918 T-Mobile US version is the best for custom ROM community, right? Or are other Single SIM variants if rooted as good as the H918 variant?
Anyway I will not buy the Dual SIM variant.
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Yes you damn right
Single SIM is for developers ONLY
If you can wait one or two month then,
1st and best option is :
International Single SIM :
LG H990 V20 TD-LTE / H990TR
If you can not wait , then
2nd option :
H918 T-Mobile US
both can be rooted in the near future
do as you wish
I must sleep now
The notion "wait a couple of months" is the most optimistic statement I've read on this topic. Dev's aren't big fans with LG and the ones who are, are typically working on the smaller market SINGLE sim phones like the T-mobile in the US. Root may never come along to the dual sim variant/s and that is just one of the reasons more of the "in the know" type phone users probably WON'T buy this phone. The dev community for LG dual is dead...yet I'm not sure why, this is where more of its USERS are.
RoOSTA
Unfortunately I found this thread too late recommending against the dual sim H990DS.
I have one now and it's too late. I needed a dual sim phone as I carry a work phone and a personal phone and was tired or carrying two phone the whole time. I've had my eye on V20 for quite a while now and was excited to see it had all the specs I wanted including dual sim and MicroSD.
Does anyone think there will be a root for this device? I've always rooted my devices and for a number of reasons. Hearing that there may not be root for this model has made me reconsider my purchase.
Any idea guys?
Soon or Later LG will release unlock method for H990DS, I dont care about yet, lets Cyanogen mature on single sim V20s then move to dual Sim when Unlock is available.
AcostaJA said:
Soon or Later LG will release unlock method for H990DS, I dont care about yet, lets Cyanogen mature on single sim V20s then move to dual Sim when Unlock is available.
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Thank you for the quick reply AcostaJA. That is very reassuring.
Once I know there will be an unlock eventually I can live with that. I don't upgrade my devices very often so the idea of being stuck on stock for that duration was making me crazy.
I'm a fan of Cyanogenmod and look forward to their V20 release.
Thank you again!
AcostaJA said:
Soon or Later LG will release unlock method for H990DS, I dont care about yet, lets Cyanogen mature on single sim V20s then move to dual Sim when Unlock is available.
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I'm not too sure where you get your optimism from. LG do not have plans to release the boot unlock for this model...
roosta said:
I'm not too sure where you get your optimism from. LG do not have plans to release the boot unlock for this model...
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The mysterious powers of marketing...
moosaa said:
at the moment Nobody unblocked H990DS
you must wait couple of months
ONLY
F800L
F800K
H918 T-Mobile is possible
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Interesting list there. The F800K shipped with an unlockable bootloader like the H918?
"Dirty Santa"'s contributions are the F800L, H910, LS997 and VS995 currently. The other V20s are likely to be cracked open soon.
moosaa said:
I advice you NEVER DO NOT buy :
H990DS ( DUAL SIM = F_U_C_K it )
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My my, you dislike dual-SIM phones so badly? Currently the H99DS has a AU$2015 (roughly US$1450) bounty, but there isn't yet an organized bounty for the H990 (though there are some disorganized folks who are offering). I imagine both will get broken in the same timeframe (not much more difficult to break both at the same time than just one).
AcostaJA said:
Soon or Later LG will release unlock method for H990DS, I dont care about yet, lets Cyanogen mature on single sim V20s then move to dual Sim when Unlock is available.
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They may in fact do that. So far Dirty Santa has only been applied to 4 devices, but most of what was done is pretty general and I imagine the rest of the V20 devices will follow soon. My fear is someone in LG management will say "Hmm, that merely encouraged them, don't be so lenient this time!" and they won't do so and be a PITA.
this guy claims this root works. does it?
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/12/root-lg-v20-h990ds-nougat-twrp.html
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this guy claims this root works. does it?
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/12/root-lg-v20-h990ds-nougat-twrp.html
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No it does not
Still nothing??
Look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/dirtysanta-h990-t3624296/
Jacob_Bentzen said:
Still nothing??
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/bounty-thread-lg-v20-root-h990ds-t3493062
Read before ?
hoi_lai said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/bounty-thread-lg-v20-root-h990ds-t3493062
Read before ?
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Not before today, but now I have a Sony
But thanks anyway
Jacob_Bentzen said:
Not before today, but now I have a Sony
But thanks anyway
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Nice to see U have a Sony instead of Phone X:laugh:
Hello Good evening guys,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking at LG V20. I usually customize and flash ROMs. I am looking at two different LG V20 models.
1) South Korean F800
2) Unlocked USA models (VS995, US996, H918)
3) Any European model? (Do they have great ROM support?)
I want to make sure that phone is able to unlock bootloader, root, and have great custom ROM support. Which model is best suitable for me?
Thank you and sorry for creating a new thread. I searched info but couldn't find much details.
I believe a big factor is the patch level... right now mine is on 10R which I believe is un-rootable.
Ampicillin said:
Hello Good evening guys,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking at LG V20. I usually customize and flash ROMs. I am looking at two different LG V20 models.
1) South Korean F800
2) Unlocked USA models (VS995, US996, H918)
3) Any European model? (Do they have great ROM support?)
I want to make sure that phone is able to unlock bootloader, root, and have great custom ROM support. Which model is best suitable for me?
Thank you and sorry for creating a new thread. I searched info but couldn't find much details.
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H918 would be the best bet. Just patch lvl is what will kill you. Need anything below 10P
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Is downgrade possible on F800L April 2017 patch with F800L10y build?
Android 8.0 Oreo started rolling out on the LG V20 at the end of July. I own the international version of the phone, the LG V20 H990DS. When I check for an OS Update it says that there's no Update available.
Why is that? Am I the only owner of the H990DS version experiencing this? Could it have to do with the fact that I imported it because it's not being sold by retail in my country?
Thanks in advace.
UserAnonymous12345
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Android 8.0 Oreo started rolling out on the LG V20 at the end of July. I own the international version of the phone, the LG V20 H990DS. When I check for an OS Update it says that there's no Update available.
Why is that? Am I the only owner of the H990DS version experiencing this? Could it have to do with the fact that I imported it because it's not being sold by retail in my country?
Thanks in advace.
UserAnonymous12345
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The H990ds oreo update hasn't been released yet, read some of the other oreo threads as I believe some have mentioned possible release dates
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
cnjax said:
The H990ds oreo update hasn't been released yet, read some of the other oreo threads as I believe some have mentioned possible release dates
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
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Ok, thanks.
Do you or does anybody have an idea, when it's expected to be released for everyone?
(I know that there are other threads, but they are not really up-to-date with the most recent post on the topic I found being from March)
Thanks in advace.
Mid august or september was the mentioned dates in previouse posts.
I asked the LG online chat about the H990DS updates....
Here is the transcript from LG chat on the question:
Time of chat: 8/15/2018 3:01:28 PM
Length of chat: 00:07:16
Your name: Dax
Chatted with: Micel
3:01 PM Micel: Hello, Dax. Please allow me a moment while I review your question...
3:01 PM Micel: I will be more than happy to assist you with your concern.
3:02 PM Dax: Great
3:02 PM Micel: Yes, there is an update that will be rolled out to LG V20.
3:02 PM Micel: However, we do not have any specific time when the update will be rolled out.
3:03 PM Dax: Is this going to be a security update, or a version update?
3:03 PM Micel: It is a software version that will be for bugs and fixes.
3:03 PM Dax: So not Android 8.0, just an update to 7.0?
3:04 PM Micel: The update that will be rolled out is an Oreo version which is Android 8.0.
3:04 PM Dax: Great, really good to hear!
3:05 PM Micel: No worries.
3:05 PM Micel: Is there anything else that I can assist you with today?
3:06 PM Dax: So, although you dont have a specific time - are you able to at least say within a week, within a month, this year?
3:06 PM Micel: Sorry but I do not have any idea about the timeframe.
3:06 PM Dax: ok thanks.
3:06 PM Micel: I'm afraid that if I will give a timeframe, this is misinformation.
3:06 PM Micel: Is there anything else that I can assist you with today?
3:07 PM Dax: Is there any information on how much longer this device will be supported for?
3:07 PM Micel: No, there is none.
3:07 PM Dax: ok, thats all. Thanks for your time.
3:08 PM Micel: You're very much welcome. I hope this has been of some assistance Dax.
3:08 PM Micel: Thank you for visiting LG Australia New Zealand Live Chat Support. Have a wonderful day.
Is there any news? There will be update for any H990DS version? I have TWN, but i read that roms for other countries can be flashed.
From what I have seen on forums etc it looks like it'll start rolling out from Sept 7. But only LG knows really, and they aren't telling. I have the exact same model, and yes you can install different regions ROMs but I find they don't always work the same. I tried a different version and had better battery life/signal, but Google assistant didn't work well and I had volume issues so went back to the version my phone came with.
LG mobile must be the most transparent company when it comes to informing there user base of updates:good:
UserAnonymous12345 said:
Android 8.0 Oreo started rolling out on the LG V20 at the end of July. I own the international version of the phone, the LG V20 H990DS. When I check for an OS Update it says that there's no Update available.
Why is that? Am I the only owner of the H990DS version experiencing this? Could it have to do with the fact that I imported it because it's not being sold by retail in my country?
Thanks in advace.
UserAnonymous12345
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LG open-source website listed the kernel source code for H990 model... Which is identical to H990DS, H990N, H990N etc... Elsa model...
Earlier it was listed only for Korean F800 series..
http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=H990
So we should be able get oreo in September for sure...
Now it's up to LG what best features they would include in it... My only concern in this phone is the battery backup....
Let's hope so....
Jesus, they still haven't updated this phone?? Glad I sold it, 1st mobile to ship with Nougat and then an awful track record in updates. They need to get their act together. Nice audio quality, shame about after support
V20 H990ds oreo update
Hello Everyone
I have same version in india and still not getting the update of oreo. Lg needs to do something for customers for update the software frequent.
my wife h p10 lite has 8.0 plus updates now to august 18 .. my lofty is still on 7 and nov 17 ... is there a moral there somewhere ... ??
No updates for my H990DS since November 2017... My second phone is a Huawei P20 (not the Pro) since three months and I have already received THREE security updates and one to push the power for players. What a difference, Huawei is now number two in worldwide sales. But I love my LG too, great camera etc.!
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My last update is for April 5 and LG Hasn't release any updates yet !
6 Months without any updates ! No Security Updates , No Android Updates! Nothing ...!
LG doesn't value us anything! I will not buy any smartphone from LG ! Never
V20 is my first and last LG device :\
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my last update is for april 5 and lg hasn't release any updates yet !
6 months without any updates ! No security updates , no android updates! Nothing ...!
Lg doesn't value us anything! I will not buy any smartphone from lg ! Never
v20 is my first and last lg device :\
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VS995 got its oreo treatment yesterday
According to an article from androidpolice,
Verizon specific model of V20 (VS995) got its oreo yesterday.
Are we up next? or gotta wait in line behind
LS997 (t-mobile)
US996 (US cellular)
H990T (Mexico)?
Like many others here, V20 will be the last LG mobile device for me.
This will be my last Lg. It's sad, because it's a great device.
I have the USA version of the V20 on Verizon Wireless and got the Oreo update late last night.
It seems smoother ... but had to reset a lot of my custom Apps and settings ... I'm liking it!
F**king LG!
I have the Indian H990ds, and it's still on the security update from April 2017.
I wouldn't hold your breath, the H990DS isn't even on the list for the source code release for Oreo, if it shows up there I'm guessing it'll be at least a month before it starts rolling out.
http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=h990
Hello! I plan getting an LG V20, yet i can't seem to determine which of the variants have the most support (As in custom roms, kernels, recoveries, unbrick, etc...).
My previous device, the V10 T-Mobile version had an unlocked bootloader but couldn't be flashed with a custom rom or downgraded due to LG enabling the QFuse or Anti-Rollback.
I am hoping to get myself a V20 variant that has the most support and also free from anti-rollbacks like my previous V10.
Get and ATT. But it should be less than android 8.0 oreo or oreo 20g software version. Preferably on Android 7.0
TMobile one android 7.0 is also good. But I prefer h910 ATT
princedede said:
Get and ATT. But it should be less than android 8.0 oreo or oreo 20g software version. Preferably on Android 7.0
TMobile one android 7.0 is also good. But I prefer h910 ATT
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Thanks for the suggestion. Could you elaborate as to why i need to get a device that is less than android 8.0?
Back on my T-Mobile V10, the last official android version (MM) came with all the lock down that made it impossible to falsh the device.
Is it so with the V20s running Oreo?
Thanks for starting this thread, I was wondering too, especially regarding the T-Mobile and Verizon version as there seems to be plenty of them out there for a lesser price. I personally have an unlocked US996, but was thinking about picking up a ATT h910. The V20 is an amazing phone, what I'd consider one of the last "great phones" that had it all-hardware wise: removable battery, expandable memory, IR blaster, 3.5mm headphone jack, and an FM player.... in addition the Quad DAC and content creation features made it even sweeter (manual mode for the camera, very competent microphone). Though we all complained about LG's horrible software updates, in my book this phone is a beast and a legend, speaking hardware wise, they don't make 'em like this anymore...sadly so too..
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Thanks for starting this thread, I was wondering too, especially regarding the T-Mobile and Verizon version as there seems to be plenty of them out there for a lesser price. I personally have an unlocked US996, but was thinking about picking up a ATT h910. The V20 is an amazing phone, what I'd consider one of the last "great phones" that had it all-hardware wise: removable battery, expandable memory, IR blaster, 3.5mm headphone jack, and an FM player.... in addition the Quad DAC and content creation features made it even sweeter (manual mode for the camera, very competent microphone). Though we all complained about LG's horrible software updates, in my book this phone is a beast and a legend, speaking hardware wise, they don't make 'em like this anymore...sadly so too..
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The V20 seems like a great device...judging from my previous V10. It is the reason why i am choosing to get the V20 over the Xiaomi Note 7 or Xiaomi 7.
But i still need a bit of clarification as to what makes some V20 variants better than others and why i am required to get a variant with Nougat instead of Oreo.
I just wanna get a variant that isn't locked down like my V10 was. Any suggestions or explanations on the matter is very welcome.
mickeyasamoah said:
The V20 seems like a great device...judging from my previous V10. It is the reason why i am choosing to get the V20 over the Xiaomi Note 7 or Xiaomi 7.
But i still need a bit of clarification as to what makes some V20 variants better than others and why i am required to get a variant with Nougat instead of Oreo.
I just wanna get a variant that isn't locked down like my V10 was. Any suggestions or explanations on the matter is very welcome.
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I understand, and I'm on a similar boat, as my US996 is stock and I'd like to pick up another one to run LOS/community developed and I was wondering if there was a more preferable V20 variant over the other. Hopefully someone more acquainted with the subject matter can chime in.
mickeyasamoah said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Could you elaborate as to why i need to get a device that is less than android 8.0?
Back on my T-Mobile V10, the last official android version (MM) came with all the lock down that made it impossible to falsh the device.
Is it so with the V20s running Oreo?
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Yes it is. That's why it's better to have a V20 with Android 7. For ATT H910, android 8.0 on version g is still rootable. 8.0 version H, I can't say. So basically just get the one with Android 7.0 installed
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ssnova said:
I understand, and I'm on a similar boat, as my US996 is stock and I'd like to pick up another one to run LOS/community developed and I was wondering if there was a more preferable V20 variant over the other. Hopefully someone more acquainted with the subject matter can chime in.
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T-mobile, ATT V20 is okay. U can get any. But let it be on Android 7.0
ssnova said:
I understand, and I'm on a similar boat, as my US996 is stock and I'd like to pick up another one to run LOS/community developed and I was wondering if there was a more preferable V20 variant over the other. Hopefully someone more acquainted with the subject matter can chime in.
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Wow! Isn't the US996 supposed to be the Non-Branded version of the V20 which allows bootloader unlocks from the LG website?
princedede said:
Yes it is. That's why it's better to have a V20 with Android 7. For ATT H910, android 8.0 on version g is still rootable. 8.0 version H, I can't say. So basically just get the one with Android 7.0 installed
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T-mobile, ATT V20 is okay. U can get any. But let it be on Android 7.0
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Thanks for the clarification. But what of the US996 version which is supposed to be the version unlockable from the LG website? Does it also have to be on android 7.0 too or does it not matter what version it might be on?
mickeyasamoah said:
Thanks for the clarification. But what of the US996 version which is supposed to be the version unlockable from the LG website? Does it also have to be on android 7.0 too or does it not matter what version it might be on?
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Due to the official LG support, the version should not matter for the unlocked US996. The tricky part may be actually finding the correct phone as there are two other US996 variants that are not unlockable from the LG website. The unlocked one has "USA" written to the right of the barcode on the sticker behind the battery, as seen in a couple of photos in this thread. The other two US996 models have "UCL" and "BPT" written instead.
Of course, all of them can be rooted and have custom ROMs, but it's a lot easier to get there on the US996 USA.
Generally, I'd say the US996 USA alongside the H910 and H918 have the most custom ROM support around here. Not sure if it matters to you, but do note that all the US996 models have the FM radio disabled. And generally, getting a V20 already on Oreo is not a huge problem (except for the LS997 model where it's unrootable due to anti-rollback) since you can still downgrade to Nougat to do the TWRP installation/rooting procedure.
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Due to the official LG support, the version should not matter for the unlocked US996. The tricky part may be actually finding the correct phone as there are two other US996 variants that are not unlockable from the LG website. The unlocked one has "USA" written to the right of the barcode on the sticker behind the battery, as seen in a couple of photos in this thread. The other two US996 models have "UCL" and "BPT" written instead.
Of course, all of them can be rooted and have custom ROMs, but it's a lot easier to get there on the US996 USA.
Generally, I'd say the US996 USA alongside the H910 and H918 have the most custom ROM support around here. Not sure if it matters to you, but do note that all the US996 models have the FM radio disabled. And generally, getting a V20 already on Oreo is not a huge problem (except for the LS997 model where it's unrootable due to anti-rollback) since you can still downgrade to Nougat to do the TWRP installation/rooting procedure.
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Thanks, this answers a lot. I was kind of confused because the other day I came across a thread about "cross flashing" V20's, from what I gather, you could flash a.. say H910 to US996, didn't delve too deep into it, but had me scratching my head, sounded like it almost didn't matter what version of V20 you got, you could do almost anything with it.
To the OP, yes the US996 is an unlocked US variant, but I'm gonna keep it stock for now.
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Due to the official LG support, the version should not matter for the unlocked US996. The tricky part may be actually finding the correct phone as there are two other US996 variants that are not unlockable from the LG website. The unlocked one has "USA" written to the right of the barcode on the sticker behind the battery, as seen in a couple of photos in this thread. The other two US996 models have "UCL" and "BPT" written instead.
Of course, all of them can be rooted and have custom ROMs, but it's a lot easier to get there on the US996 USA.
Generally, I'd say the US996 USA alongside the H910 and H918 have the most custom ROM support around here. Not sure if it matters to you, but do note that all the US996 models have the FM radio disabled. And generally, getting a V20 already on Oreo is not a huge problem (except for the LS997 model where it's unrootable due to anti-rollback) since you can still downgrade to Nougat to do the TWRP installation/rooting procedure.
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Oh my word! Thank you so very much for this detailed explanation, This indeed answers 90% of my questions.
Since anti-rollback wasn't enabled on all the variants except that LS997 variant, getting a v20 on Oreo doesn't mean the end of modding for the device, as i can always downgrade to an Nougat and root the device. Right?
Oh...and if i read you correctly, All V20 models except for the US996 model have FM Radio functionality enabled.
I can't wait to get myself a V20 now as all my previous LG devices were T-Mobile branded and did not have FM Radio support.
It's great to know that FM radio works on even the T-Mobile variant of the V20.
Thanks again for the detailed clarification.
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Thanks, this answers a lot. I was kind of confused because the other day I came across a thread about "cross flashing" V20's, from what I gather, you could flash a.. say H910 to US996, didn't delve too deep into it, but had me scratching my head, sounded like it almost didn't matter what version of V20 you got, you could do almost anything with it.
To the OP, yes the US996 is an unlocked US variant, but I'm gonna keep it stock for now.
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Rodger that!
With @C D's detailed explanation, I might get the T-Mobile Variant of the V20 as the bootloader on T-Mobile variants of all my previous LG devices were really easy to unlock with the following fastboot command without any unlock code or unlock.bin file.
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
I just hope the bootloader unlock process is as straight forward on the V20 too.
mickeyasamoah said:
Oh my word! Thank you so very much for this detailed explanation, This indeed answers 90% of my questions.
Since anti-rollback wasn't enabled on all the variants except that LS997 variant, getting a v20 on Oreo doesn't mean the end of modding for the device, as i can always downgrade to an Nougat and root the device. Right?
Oh...and if i read you correctly, All V20 models except for the US996 model have FM Radio functionality enabled.
I can't wait to get myself a V20 now as all my previous LG devices were T-Mobile branded and did not have FM Radio support.
It's great to know that FM radio works on even the T-Mobile variant of the V20.
Thanks again for the detailed clarification.
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You're correct about downgrading. In fact, if you look at whatever rooting guide you end up following, it will most likely involve downgrading to Nougat.
A few more bits of info:
- The T-Mobile H918 actually does have anti-rollback, too, but can still be rooted using a different procedure. You can still downgrade to a certain version number.
- Another model with the FM radio disabled is the Verizon VS995, but someone on here cross-flashed it with H910 firmware to get FM radio working and only had to flash the VS995 modem files to get it going. Same thing has been done to US996 models, but apparently, the front and back cameras get flipped as a side effect.
mickeyasamoah said:
Rodger that!
With @C D's detailed explanation, I might get the T-Mobile Variant of the V20 as the bootloader on T-Mobile variants of all my previous LG devices were really easy to unlock with the following fastboot command without any unlock code or unlock.bin file.
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I just hope the bootloader unlock process is as straight forward on the V20 too.
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Only for the US996 USA, sadly. Most of the procedures for the other variants are quite unusual with plenty of steps, so read up carefully before you dive in. I have done it for two older LS997s while I also bought a used US996 USA and H918 that already came rooted.
Also, if you are going for the T-Mobile H918, absolutely make sure it is carrier SIM unlocked. As far as I'm aware, a locked H918 can only be unlocked if you are a current T-Mobile USA customer or via a paid service which can cost more than $80 USD (almost the price of a used V20). It's nothing like the simple unlock PIN codes you may have seen for other carriers.
C D said:
You're correct about downgrading. In fact, if you look at whatever rooting guide you end up following, it will most likely involve downgrading to Nougat.
A few more bits of info:
- The T-Mobile H918 actually does have anti-rollback, too, but can still be rooted using a different procedure. You can still downgrade to a certain version number.
- Another model with the FM radio disabled is the Verizon VS995, but someone on here cross-flashed it with H910 firmware to get FM radio working and only had to flash the VS995 modem files to get it going. Same thing has been done to US996 models, but apparently, the front and back cameras get flipped as a side effect.
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Wow....If the T-Mobile variant does come with anti-rollback, then i guess i would have to refrain from it even tho it might be downgradeable to some extent. Anti-rollbacks are always up to no good. Downgrade too much and u risk blowing a Qfuse or something.
Moving forward....How is the AT&T variant? Does it have any anti-rollbacks? I would rather have a variant that has no anti-rollback even if it's rooting or unlocking guide might be much complicated as compared to the H918.
C D said:
Only for the US996 USA, sadly. Most of the procedures for the other variants are quite unusual with plenty of steps, so read up carefully before you dive in. I have done it for two older LS997s while I also bought a used US996 USA and H918 that already came rooted.
Also, if you are going for the T-Mobile H918, absolutely make sure it is carrier SIM unlocked. As far as I'm aware, a locked H918 can only be unlocked if you are a current T-Mobile USA customer or via a paid service which can cost more than $80 USD (almost the price of a used V20). It's nothing like the simple unlock PIN codes you may have seen for other carriers.
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The anti-rollback on the H918 has really thrown me off. Else, the T-Mobile variants of all the LG devices i owned in the past were SIM unlocked. So that wouldn't have been an issue.
mickeyasamoah said:
Wow....If the T-Mobile variant does come with anti-rollback, then i guess i would have to refrain from it even tho it might be downgradeable to some extent. Anti-rollbacks are always up to no good. Downgrade too much and u risk blowing a Qfuse or something.
Moving forward....How is the AT&T variant? Does it have any anti-rollbacks? I would rather have a variant that has no anti-rollback even if it's rooting or unlocking guide might be much complicated as compared to the H918.
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Only the H918 and LS997 have anti-rollback, so you'd be safe with the H910. However, both the LS997 and H910 (by now you probably realize how ridiculous LG has been with all these variations) have no official firmware (.kdz) files, so I'm not sure how difficult it would be to restore the phone in the unlikely scenario that you somehow lose TWRP recovery.
Look at the rooting guides specific to both H910 and H918 to see what you're up against and what pitfalls may lie ahead before you decide.
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Only the H918 and LS997 have anti-rollback, so you'd be safe with the H910. However, both the LS997 and H910 (by now you probably realize how ridiculous LG has been with all these variations) have no official firmware (.kdz) files, so I'm not sure how difficult it would be to restore the phone in the unlikely scenario that you somehow lose TWRP recovery.
Look at the rooting guides specific to both H910 and H918 to see what you're up against and what pitfalls may lie ahead before you decide.
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Oh My! These are some of the things LG does that made me say to myself in the past..."This would be my last LG device." But somehow, i keep finding myself crawling to LG.
Like you said, i have to read as to determine which variant's shortcomings is less damaging.
Before i go digging into V20 threads, is it possible the H910 has a tot even tho it doesn't have a kdz?
mickeyasamoah said:
Oh My! These are some of the things LG does that made me say to myself in the past..."This would be my last LG device." But somehow, i keep finding myself crawling to LG.
Like you said, i have to read as to determine which variant's shortcomings is less damaging.
Before i go digging into V20 threads, is it possible the H910 has a tot even tho it doesn't have a kdz?
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I have never seen any firmware files at all available for the H910, and other V20 variants have KDZs only, no TOT files.
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I have never seen any firmware files at all available for the H910, and other V20 variants have KDZs only, no TOT files.
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Wow....LG really makes sure each variant lacks something. H918 has easy bootloader unlock but a dreadful anti-rollback, H910 has no rollback but has no firmware files.
I was just reading and i noticed that the anti-rollback on the H918 was introduced in the firmware version 10K.
Does this mean that an H918 with firmware version 10K and below would be fine? If yes, would a rooted H918 with 10K be able to flash custom Oreo ROMs?
I`d like to know if it`s possible to update LG V35 PLUS 128GB LMV350EAW to Android 10. This is the Brazilian version and would be great to update with the American ROM. I appreciate any help. Thank you! PS: if anyone knows where I can buy a SPIGEN LG V30 TOUGH ARMOR - GUNMETAL A25CS22000 I appreciate.
LG G7 Plus can crossflash to another model so I think the V35 should work too.
You can try cross flash to Korean market firmware, the V350N's, mine AT&T's is working under NAO firmware very well now, so I think you can do that, too.
The V350N is the only model has it's own Android Q kdz.