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8 MP Superior Auto vs 15 MP Superior Auto

Hi everyone,
As i have rooted my Z2, i was able to install Xposed Framework. In Xposed Modes i found a mode which 'force' camera to use full 20 mp (or 15 mp in wide shot) in Superior Auto Mode. I have taken some pics to compare quality but couldn't understand anything. As i know, many of you guys are very interested in photography and know a lot about it, i decided to share some pics with you and let you decide which is better. Here's the link of 4 pics, 2 of them in 8 mp and 2 with 15 mp. (The names of the files indicate 'MP'): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vvpghc7w187b1ia/_uUAk9NFry
Can provide more shots if needed.

Mano1982 said:
Hi everyone,
As i have rooted my Z2, i was able to install Xposed Framework. In Xposed Modes i found a mode which 'force' camera to use full 20 mp (or 15 mp in wide shot) in Superior Auto Mode. I have taken some pics to compare quality but couldn't understand anything. As i know, many of you guys are very interested in photography and know a lot about it, i decided to share some pics with you and let you decide which is better. Here's the link of 4 pics, 2 of them in 8 mp and 2 with 15 mp. (The names of the files indicate 'MP'): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vvpghc7w187b1ia/_uUAk9NFry
Can provide more shots if needed.
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Great effort. Somehow I noticed the 15 mp has a wider angle. Generally they look very close and still very good quality for both, maybe different lighting conditions and in daylight too maybe easier to distinguish which is best.

There is a great discussion on quality 8MP and 20MP. Many say 8Mp is better than 20MP, which contain more vivid colors. This video explains a little about!
We could try posting pictures!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFP3Un1mRmY

ASD007 said:
Great effort. Somehow I noticed the 15 mp has a wider angle. Generally they look very close and still very good quality for both, maybe different lighting conditions and in daylight too maybe easier to distinguish which is best.
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Thanks for your feedback, mate Check the folder again, just poster some more shots. As it's night in Norway now, i couldn't take daylight photos. Will do it tomorrow..
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
There is a great discussion on quality 8MP and 20MP. Many say 8Mp is better than 20MP, which contain more vivid colors. This video explains a little about!
We could try posting pictures!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFP3Un1mRmY
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Thanks for your feedback, mate I will take more pictures in daylight tomorrow. Problem is that whenever you enable or disable mod, you have to reboot the phone

Hey can you also let us know what you lost from rooting? DRM etc?

robt772000 said:
Hey can you also let us know what you lost from rooting? DRM etc?
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Or that could stay in one of the other threads about rooting and bootloader and drm and this one could be about pictures. This thread has potential.
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jiggyb21 said:
Or that could stay in one of the other threads about rooting and bootloader and drm and this one could be about pictures. This thread has potential.
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I've been here a lot longer than you son. Don't go telling me what to do.
Its still relevant.

robt772000 said:
I've been here a lot longer than you son. Don't go telling me what to do.
Its still relevant.
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Somehow I knew you were going to say that.
The reason I felt brash enough to say something is because half of all my posts since I've been here have been on that exact topic in other threads that explain in detail what is lost and what isn't. I know for a fact there's info available to answer your question without changing the topic of this thread. I'd link them for you but I'm about to watch Game of Thrones.... And don't get so bent out shape, I'm sure you've scolded more than one person in your long tenure here.
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jiggyb21 said:
Somehow I knew you were going to say that.
The reason I felt brash enough to say something is because half of all my posts since I've been here have been on that exact topic in other threads that explain in detail what is lost and what isn't. I know for a fact there's info available to answer your question without changing the topic of this thread. I'd link them for you but I'm about to watch Game of Thrones.... And don't get so bent out shape, I'm sure you've scolded more than one person in your long tenure here.
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Yep no worries. I'm just a fiery biker.
I heard the camera can break from unlocking.

I haven't lost anything that I'm aware of...

robt772000 said:
Yep no worries. I'm just a fiery biker.
I heard the camera can break from unlocking.
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You motivated me to finally put up an avatar.

From my tests and I've done a lot of them since I got the phone last month.
8mp in manual mode with my own settings produced the best results in all lighting conditions. Focusing for me is the z2's greatest problem and one which gets worse the more you increase the resolution.
From the watch photo the OP posted, you can clearly see that the 8mp sample is better focused. At 8mp, everything is better, detail preservation, focus, contrast and dynamic range. Yes you can't zoom in as far as you can with the 15 and 20.7mp snaps but the quality is noticeably better.
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Thanks, very interesting!
Quality is comparable, actually at certain shots SA at 8MP is maybe a more consistently detailed, 15MP is sometimes a little noisier and I don't see much quality edge.
Where this can be very useful however is shooting large resolution full 4:3 frame SA images, as on stock we're limited to 8MP @16:9. It makes sense to give the full 4:3 option, and I'd love to see some 8MP vs. 20MP SA comparisons, if you have the time. :good:

robt772000 said:
I've been here a lot longer than you son. Don't go telling me what to do.
Its still relevant.
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There are lots of us who have been here longer than you son :silly:

Haha. Internet's is fun.

(Camera Comparison) AM7 vs Sony Xperia Z2 - I own both

I really enjoy the Z2 camera experience but the slow shutter speed when using the on screen button started to bug me. I was intending on buying the Nexus 6 or Note 4 but they both left me feeling underwhelmed so I decided on the AM7.
In this thread I will be taking photos every opportunity I can and posting them here.
All photos will have the AM7 first and the Z2 second for continuity.
Auto mode or superior auto (Z2) will be used at all times and regardless of what anyone has to say about auto modes that's what most people use!
I will post from either phone when I can so every upload will be from the XDA app.
Please keep comments constructive
Any trolling or unacceptable comments will be reported to the moderator.
Enjoy the pics

AM7 is the first photo and the Z2 is the second one on both photos.
The photos were taken at 2330hrs with only an overhead standard bulb.
I describe these conditions as dingy at best. No flash used and auto mode used for both photos.

ipmanwck said:
AM7 is the first photo and the Z2 is the second one on both photos.
The photos were taken at 2330hrs with only an overhead standard bulb.
I describe these conditions as dingy at best. No flash used and auto mode used for both photos.
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In ur opinion which phone is better ?

hannanzikrea said:
In ur opinion which phone is better ?
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Need more time. Only had the phone for a day.
From first impressions shutter speed is amazingly fast like iphone 6 fast or htc one. Low light pictures display some noise but the z2 does also. Framerate of camera app is similar to z2 so that's a good thing. More testing required but the handset is extremely high end and happy I went with this rather than nexus 6 or Note 4.
Screen and brightness is great and speaker is very loud indeed!

Nice looking forward to other comparisons
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Yes, looks very good i'm gonna test it too

All additional photos would be greatly appreciated.
Let's keep this thread professional. Lots more photos taken today in bad light. I must say I am impressed. I was very worried about the camera from what reviews had said but it's a good sensor and looks like huawei did a good thing by not using too much processing etc.

I have more z2 photos but decide to sell it and keep my AM7 so you can find more of my photos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970
I will be uploading more comparisons but not immediately

People are complaining about Huawei's poor cameras but these photos are comparable to any phone. Not so bad.
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mirchichamu said:
People are complaining about Huawei's poor cameras but these photos are comparable to any phone. Not so bad.
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These people who are saying the camera is bad are talking rubbish I took some amazing shots today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970 I am using the European model so no idea if its different to the chinese version

ipmanwck said:
These people who are saying the camera is bad are talking rubbish I took some amazing shots today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970 I am using the European model so no idea if its different to the chinese version
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Thanks. My worries are now removed regarding camera. I am going to order one soon. Good luck.
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Pictures & Videos taken with the Google Pixel

Hey everyone, I made a similar post while waiting for the 6P. Let's start off posting pictures of what we can find from reviews and then post your personal shots once the phones start rolling in.

more can be found here: http://phandroid.com/2016/10/04/google-pixel-photo-samples/
per source: It appears at least half of these photos were processed with Snapseed and VSCO.

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I'm guessing either that is a HDR+ oversight, meaning it was not utilized properly, or Google decided to keep contrast in this situation. Without being there to view the scene with my own eyes, I can't determine which photo is better (more accurate). Maybe keeping the shadows darker was truer to the scene, and again, produced sharp looking contrast. Or maybe HDR+ dropped the ball here - who knows?
I won't really judge until real reviews come out with post-release software.

I went for a wander at lunchtime to get some real world samples from the camera. Didn't have long so not exactly the best photography but it should give everyone a bit of an idea about the camera's real world performance.
EDIT: It seems the tapatalk upload destroys image quality, so here is a Google Photos link for the full resolution versions of the below, along with a couple of extra shots:
https://goo.gl/photos/fAsQ8YLqEijHWiU76
Wouldn't focus quite as close as I wanted despite clicking a lot in the closest flower but plenty of detail where it did decide to focus:
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The dog

what's the best way to upload an image? right now I'm just on XDA via chromium

diabl0w said:
what's the best way to upload an image? right now I'm just on XDA via chromium
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The App

Great photos
Does anyone know or can anyone test to see if adobe lightroom mobile allows taking photos in raw? OR another app to shoot in raw?

Very low light, smokey environment. Turned out much clearer than expected

Just saw this great shootout video from PCWorld. They compare the Pixel (XL in this case) to the S7, iPhone 7 Plus and V20. Def worth watching!
http://www.pcworld.com/video/70857/google-pixel-camera-shootout

Really love this camera. Everything is so well balanced
Pictures taking in my hometown Groningen in the Netherlands
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HDR+ only

I don't care what anybody says. This camera is dope. I like it better than my Samsung Galaxy S7 camera.

Happy Halloween!
A few snaps...
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I did some late night shoots in the city
I see that there is a lot of quality lost by posting this here.... [emoji52]
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Random sunset time comparison with the 6P
Nexus first then Pixel. I believe the result on the nexus is better. Even though it can be harder to capture that shot and even though it takes longer to shoot, process and open the app. The nexus also has terrible stabilisation, has trouble autofocussing and fails to get close up in macros.

subhani said:
Nexus first then Pixel. I believe the result on the nexus is better. Even though it can be harder to capture that shot and even though it takes longer to shoot, process and open the app. The nexus also has terrible stabilisation, has trouble autofocussing and fails to get close up in macros.
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I hardly see any difference....
I prefer the pixel slightly,
And the things you mentioned are the difference
I can't download them at full resolution so it's hard to say this way which one is clearly better.
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coolhead said:
I hardly see any difference....
I prefer the pixel slightly,
And the things you mentioned are the difference
I can't download them at full resolution so it's hard to say this way which one is clearly better.
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Yeah I uploaded them on tinypic and I thought they embed them in the thread with a click function to take it to their site for full resolution. I could swear it used to do that. I need another solution.
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Pro camera app request fot photographers

camera configuration on this phone could risult in insane quality:
I had nexus 5 and I made photos of much better quality than dslr, really. That's why I'm still using that phone. how?
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
this simple app let you shot an INSTANT burst of 20 RAW shots in BRACKETING, which merged in camera raw results in perfect photos even in extreme low light. So 20 raw shots + instant burst + bracketing.
I'd like to have the same function on Op5 (maybe more than 20shots per burst?), but (this is important) for both sensors at the same time.
Optical zoom is only 1,5x so I ensure that if we merge in photoshop a bracketing burst of both sensor we'll obtain the quality of professional expensive camera.
I can attach some examples of what Nexus5 reaches with this function if you want, but who's expert in camera raw hdr editing understands the insane result reachable
edit: i tried the app and it works! with our 16mp resolution, so it is fittable to any phone. the only problem remains that raw shots acquired with non op-camera apps are kind of blurred-violet

+1

Can you share some examples? Also, can this be installed in OP3T?

redsmith said:
Can you share some examples? Also, can this be installed in OP3T?
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Yes, i have it on my 3t

Care to share an apk? I have a fairly ancient version of this app and would like to try it on my 3T.

redsmith said:
Care to share an apk? I have a fairly ancient version of this app and would like to try it on my 3T.
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I send you the link via pm

I would like to give this a try
Could you please share the apk please and thank you so much!!!

Can you send a pm too with apk thanks.

I would like to try the app too. Thanks @mystique47.

Sargos76 said:
I send you the link via pm
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Send me the link of that, apk you are telling about!

Can you please send me the apk link too, Thanks

Here you can find all releases. Just download the apk and install. It's working for Oneplus 5 https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/releases

Samples ?
i would like to see feedback from anyone who used the app please ?

All 3rd party app returns images with a pink tint when shooting in raw.

Looking to buy the 5 real soon. Subscribing to this thread. Any comparison shots yet?

why not link the apk here? you're clearly not suffering restrictions to not post links here. Unconventional. someone else had to link lol

mystique47 said:
I had nexus 5 and I made photos of much better quality than dslr, really.
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No way at all! You might get some good shots out of your Nexus 5, but "much better than a DSLR?" Definitely not if you're using the DSLR properly.
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Devhux said:
No way at all! You might get some good shots out of your Nexus 5, but "much better than a DSLR?" Definitely not if you're using the DSLR properly.
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ROFL, I'm an enthusiast photographer and shoot with a Nikon D3 and I laughed my a$$ off reading that. The OP is delusional. There just is no way you'll out do a DSLR with a camera phone if you have any clue on what you're doing with the camera. With total control of a current smartphones camera you might get close to what a DSLR will get you on auto.... MAYBE, and forget from a phone from 3 or4 year old smartphone camera.

Eric214 said:
ROFL, I'm an enthusiast photographer and shoot with a Nikon D3 and I laughed my a$$ off reading that. The OP is delusional. There just is no way you'll out do a DSLR with a camera phone if you have any clue on what you're doing with the camera. With total control of a current smartphones camera you might get close to what a DSLR will get you on auto.... MAYBE, and forget from a phone from 3 or4 year old smartphone camera.
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Another enthusiast here (D800) and I am willing to be more charitable. In good daylight a cell phone camera will produce images that are more or less on par with a mid-low end dslr, at least in terms of basic technical things such as noise, acuity. I do agree that in lousy light all bets are off, and this is what the OP implied.

GroovyGeek said:
Another enthusiast here (D800) and I am willing to be more charitable. In good daylight a cell phone camera will produce images that are more or less on par with a mid-low end dslr, at least in terms of basic technical things such as noise, acuity. I do agree that in lousy light all bets are off, and this is what the OP implied.
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In good light they will be close on the camera maybe at 100% on a phone screen. You put that baby on a PC monitor and start pixel peeping and really scrutinize, it won't be close

Why you shouldn't use the new panorama UI (gcam6.1)

Currently I am on vacation and used the new panorama function a lot.
Sadly when editing the images I noticed that they have a very low resolution compared to the "old" photo sphere modes.
So if you care for high amount of detail in your panoramas never ever use the new panorama UI.
It just creates VR shots.
Since I learned the hard way, by wasting my time and a lot of beautiful shots, I wanted others to be aware of that.
Kind regards,
Reawo

reawo said:
Currently I am on vacation and used the new panorama function a lot.
Sadly when editing the images I noticed that they have a very low resolution compared to the "old" photo sphere modes.
So if you care for high amount of detail in your panoramas never ever use the new panorama UI.
It just creates VR shots.
Since I learned the hard way, by wasting my time and a lot of beautiful shots, I wanted others to be aware of that.
Kind regards,
Reawo
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Wow. You're totally right! Super low resolution and there's no option to adjust like before. Hope they add a toggle or something to choose VR photo or Panorama.
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It's not only the Panorama it's most pictures taken are less quality compared to the old app, I went back to the stock app after updating

Sab3elbromba said:
It's not only the Panorama it's most pictures taken are less quality compared to the old app, I went back to the stock app after updating
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I don't know about that. Regular pics look good to me and Max even points out some ever so slightly less grain in low light shots:
https://youtu.be/dYc4liPOYeQ
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EeZeEpEe said:
I don't know about that. Regular pics look good to me and Max even points out some ever so slightly less grain in low light shots:
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Yup i can see the difference i took a pic in low light with pixel 2 xl and pixel 2 running pixel 3 camera i could notice the difference
Plus portrait mode in low light was way better on pixel 3 camera
Cheers ?
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