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SD card can not be used when the power is less than 10%

it's annoying that you can not use sd card when the remained power comes less than 10%!
you know on wizard you can use SD function even there is only 1% power!
does anybody know how to modify the registry to resolve this?
thanks!

You should not be using the phone when the power is this low. The Universal needs more power than the Wizard, it has a different processor and hardware and therefore different needs.
The power consumption of your SD is always a factor and that differs depending on your capacity and brand. Why you were using the phone at 1% battery is beyond me. I do not recommend stressing it this much. Just my 2c.
Either way there is key in HKLM\Software\Drivers\VPD where the message is shown but I wasn't able to find any place to change a setting.

at least, writing an SD card needs more power...

Dear,
thanks for your reply....yes 10% mean very low power.
but if possible i would like to change the number to 2% or 3%...cause i'm using a 3200 battery.

Ahhhh I see now. I'll try and find something... will post if I do.
Some interesting links I picked off of another post in here:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm

joannaex said:
Ahhhh I see now. I'll try and find something... will post if I do.
Some interesting links I picked off of another post in here:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm
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Jesus, i was just reading the first link and its says that:
"A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles"
is this true, if so then my battery will be kaput after a year?

on an average, it will last for almost 2 years, if used properly(like u shud nt fully drain the battery)

daven said:
joannaex said:
Ahhhh I see now. I'll try and find something... will post if I do.
Some interesting links I picked off of another post in here:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm
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Jesus, i was just reading the first link and its says that:
"A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles"
is this true, if so then my battery will be kaput after a year?
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In my case, 1 year is acceptable. after one year, you can buy a new one or maybe you would change your mobile phone.

joannaex said:
Ahhhh I see now. I'll try and find something... will post if I do.
Some interesting links I picked off of another post in here:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm
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Dear Joan,
Thanks for your links! it's really interesting. after read it, i realize it doesn't make any sense to change the number.
Coz I'm using a 3400 nickel battery and a 1600 Lion battery. for the 3400 battery, I only need to discharge and fully charge it
once every 1-3 month!

Glad I could help

Does your device has heating issues

I heard people complaining about this.
What could be the cause
What are the other cons

the nexus 4 does not have heat issues. what you read is posted by people that dont know better.

rafz789 said:
I heard people complaining about this.
What could be the cause
What are the other cons
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I had heating issues with the nexus. Battery reached on many situations 37°C - 40°C. But it wasn't the device's fault. It seemed that it was a couple of background programs that solved after killing the applications using a Task Manager.

What is 'heat'? - what temperature of battery? what temperature of cpu?

superjose said:
I had heating issues with the nexus. Battery reached on many situations 37°C - 40°C. But it wasn't the device's fault. It seemed that it was a couple of background programs that solved after killing the applications using a Task Manager.
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37-40C is normal, its not an issue. your body temp is 37C. this is why people think the nexus 4 has a heat issue, because people like this just dont know and spread it around that 37-40C is an issue.
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when your battery reaches 56C or your cpu reaches over 85C, then you can talk heat. the safety temp that your phone will automatically shut down to cool off are 60C for the battery temp, or 100C for the cpu. below those temps, its considered safe.

I had 'heating issues" but for me it's normal that when I'm playing hi-end games phone gets hotter than normal... But I have to say that I was a bit surprised, cause I thought that stronger phones won't get hot as much as weaker phones while playing

parkourz said:
I had 'heating issues" but for me it's normal that when I'm playing hi-end games phone gets hotter than normal... But I have to say that I was a bit surprised, cause I thought that stronger phones won't get hot as much as weaker phones while playing
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they get hotter than weaker phones. more processing power, and gpu power, means more heat. when playing cpu/gpu intensive games, cpu temps of 65C-75C are easy to reach. but, as soon as you turn off your screen, it cools down fast.

simms22 said:
37-40C is normal, its not an issue. your body temp is 37C. this is why people think the nexus 4 has a heat issue, because people like this just dont know and spread it around that 37-40C is an issue.
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when your battery reaches 56C or your cpu reaches over 85C, then you can talk heat. the safety temp that your phone will automatically shut down to cool off are 60C for the battery temp, or 100C for the cpu. below those temps, its considered safe.
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Thanks a lot man!
To be honest, I did read it somewhere in this forum that 37°C DID damage my battery. Hahha. Thought my phone was being damaged, because it did feel hot even with a TPU Gel case.

superjose said:
Thanks a lot man!
To be honest, I did read it somewhere in this forum that 37°C DID damage my battery. Hahha. Thought my phone was being damaged, because it did feel hot even with a TPU Gel case.
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37C is your body temp. just keeping your phone in a tight pocket could raise the battery temp to 37C, lol

Cooling down the 6p

Hey guys,
Everybody knows the snapdragon 810 runs too hot, and quick charging doesn't help. But with this year's hot summer it's getting to a point where I can barely use my phone because it's throttling and what's worse, it can't even charge correctly because the battery is too hot. It's just crazy, it's topping off at 300mA with a battery at 39°C, and if I put the phone in the fridge it's charging at 2.8A again.
So my question is: how do you guys cool it down? I can't be the only one in this situation. I'm to the point where I could try a gentle hack like a USB powered fridge you could put under the case, or something similarly ridiculous.
Any ideas?

microcox said:
Hey guys,
Everybody knows the snapdragon 810 runs too hot, and quick charging doesn't help. But with this year's hot summer it's getting to a point where I can barely use my phone because it's throttling and what's worse, it can't even charge correctly because the battery is too hot. It's just crazy, it's topping off at 300mA with a battery at 39°C, and if I put the phone in the fridge it's charging at 2.8A again.
So my question is: how do you guys cool it down? I can't be the only one in this situation. I'm to the point where I could try a gentle hack like a USB powered fridge you could put under the case, or something similarly ridiculous.
Any ideas?
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Time your charging to your commute, with a vent-mounted clip, AC blasting it. I've done that with my Note4 "optimizing" apps, even while charging, phone's ice cube cold.
Also, charging any Lithium battery under high temperatures shortens its lifespan. Not a big deal with a removable battery, but with the 6P you want to avoid that as much as you can.

Funny, I did that with the note 4 too (did nobody tell you that flashing while driving is dangerous? ^^)
The thing is now I commute by bike. Anyway, I charge the n6p at least twice a day (sigh) so that would still be a problem.
Also, I forgot to mention it but of course the loss of longevity associated with overheating is what worries me most.

To be honest i never recognized this and the lifetime is for me not a killer feature anymore,
i know ill buy every two years a new phone (even if i try not to ).
Its so hot in your room?

Well I'm definitely not buying a phone to keep it more than a year / a year and a half either. But the thing is a hot battery may die on you very quickly. My note 4 battery died after 8 months (quick charge and QI charge cooked it). But it was removable...
And it's not *that* hot in here, but you can reach 30°C inside so it's fairly easy to get a 40°C battery.

I usually keep my (naked) 6P on a slate or marble surface while it's charging, so that the good conductivity and high thermal capacity of the surface completely absorbs the generated heat. My phones battery is about 30-31° with 28° room temperature.
Also, I rarely charge it with its bundled charger, and use a 1.2A one whenever I'm not in a hurry
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I also keep mine on a cool granite floor while doing a full charge and it keeps it a little cooler!

I used a ice pack whenever I wipe the dalvik and cache and the phone has to optimize all my apps. Ice pack keep the back of the phone cold, i avoid resting it on the camera though.. don't want to risk cracking.

Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...

Pappy35 said:
Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Same here. Just a bit warmer when optimizing apps, but that happens once a month (when I install google updates)
The rest of the time is just a bit warmer, when heavily used.

I've had the 6P for 3 months now and I've experienced zero overheating or the need to cool it down. Does it get warm? Yes when playing games or running many apps like any phone would but I never have to do something like that and go out of my way to bring it down, just let it sit and it cools itself.

I feel your pain. LA has been warm lately and my apt is usually a few degrees warmer than it is outside. My 6P is burning up sometimes.
My solution has been to use a 3D printed phone stand that I have (I'm sure most phone stands would help) and place it front of a small desk fan that I have while it charges. I noticed that it gets most hot when it's charging and lying flat on a surface (desk, my bed, etc.), so I prop it up in the stand and that seems to help.

Pappy35 said:
Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Well no, I just made up everything so you guys have something to talk about. XDA has been so quiet lately...

Subiegsr said:
I used a ice pack whenever I wipe the dalvik and cache and the phone has to optimize all my apps. Ice pack keep the back of the phone cold, i avoid resting it on the camera though.. don't want to risk cracking.
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Yep, I'm tempted to do that when it's really too hot but I'm afraid it could to as much damage as too much heat. Definitely works though. It's just fun to watch the amps go back up in the Ampere app when the phone is cooling down.

I run the phone in Hexamode (core 6 & 7 offline). Seems to help keep the phone temps lower. No real life performance impact. The reduced number of cores won’t adversely affect performance, as Android, and the majority of its apps, still aren’t optimised, nor demanding enough to need octa-core power. Give it a try!

Pappy35 said:
Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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It all depends on your ambient temperature. Battery capacity is notably reduced over time if it experiences temperatures over 35°C, and since the 6P is not that easy to take apart it is worth finding a solution to keep the battery cool.
The room temperature can easily be over 30°C in most places during summer, therefore it is common for batteries to overheat while charging.
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microcox said:
Yep, I'm tempted to do that when it's really too hot but I'm afraid it could to as much damage as too much heat. Definitely works though. It's just fun to watch the amps go back up in the Ampere app when the phone is cooling down.
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Low temperatures cannot cause any permanent harm to batteries instead. They might temporarily shorten battery life, but it is always good for batteries to be stored in cold environments (they are kept at around 8°C in labs to maximize their endurance).
So no problem from this point of view! just avoid condensation of humidity, which can actually kill your phone
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microcox said:
Well no, I just made up everything so you guys have something to talk about. XDA has been so quiet lately...
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Oh Ok. Thought so. Thanks.. :silly:

If anyone is worried about heat definitely don't create a backup in TWRP with compression on lol. I have a lot of data so it takes a while and wow does it get hot. I'd imagine thermal throttling is shut off while in twrp so the cpu just blasts away full speed.

pgptheoriginal said:
It all depends on your ambient temperature. Battery capacity is notably reduced over time if it experiences temperatures over 35°C, and since the 6P is not that easy to take apart it is worth finding a solution to keep the battery cool.
The room temperature can easily be over 30°C in most places during summer, therefore it is common for batteries to overheat while charging.
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Low temperatures cannot cause any permanent harm to batteries instead. They might temporarily shorten battery life, but it is always good for batteries to be stored in cold environments (they are kept at around 8°C in labs to maximize their endurance).
So no problem from this point of view! just avoid condensation of humidity, which can actually kill your phone
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Very interesting, thanks! Here in summer we are always between 25 and 35°C, and my battery is at least at 37°C (idle phone in the morning). So I'm pretty much guaranteed to destroy my battery

I live in place where in summer the avg temp is 40°c so it is hot and if i use outdoors i can definetly feel my device is warm even in my pocket
Also whenever it throttles i just keep it untouched for about 5 to 10 mins and it gets relatively cool again
Cheers
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Battery is Charging faster than expected

Hey guys, I was wondering when you use QC 3.0, does your battery charge faster than it did before? I was using AEX Oreo and noticed it charging more than 50% in thirty minutes. I went back to B35 and its charging 64% in 30 minutes. Its been happening ever since the Project New world and I was wondering if this indicates something with my battery or anything?

50% in thirty minutes is normal.

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50% in thirty minutes is normal.
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If thats the case, then it looks like my Axon is drawing out more power from the charging brick because its going over that

troy5890 said:
If thats the case, then it looks like my Axon is drawing out more power from the charging brick because its going over that
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or your battery is half depleted. Accubattery tells you the capacity estimate

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or your battery is half depleted. Accubattery tells you the capacity estimate
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I'll try that and see if I get anything. Last time I check recently it was 82%

troy5890 said:
Hey guys, I was wondering when you use QC 3.0, does your battery charge faster than it did before? I was using AEX Oreo and noticed it charging more than 50% in thirty minutes. I went back to B35 and its charging 64% in 30 minutes. Its been happening ever since the Project New world and I was wondering if this indicates something with my battery or anything?
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Same here since i upgrade to los15 sources or higher.Really something wrong,but everyone denys it.Software on this phone is not anymore good.Dont know why but i have my theorys.
Also,devs dont listen to users that report errors or things that does not look good,they only listen to eachother
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I'll try that and see if I get anything. Last time I check recently it was 82%
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can you reply now about your battery?
mentionng 50% in 30minutes is normal is false claim,he does not know your capacity.
Sorry to leave this here,but i do know why nfound leave the axon7 community on xda

Predatorhaze said:
Same here since i upgrade to los15 sources or higher.Really something wrong,but everyone denys it.Software on this phone is not anymore good.Dont know why but i have my theorys.
Also,devs dont listen to users that report errors or things that does not look good,they only listen to eachother
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can you reply now about your battery?
mentionng 50% in 30minutes is normal is false claim,he does not know your capacity.
Sorry to leave this here,but i do know why nfound leave the axon7 community on xda
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I recently had my batter replaced and its up to 96% in capacity. I'm still getting 50% in 30 minutes on the QC charger.

Battery recommendations? Does it need to be the battery for my exact model?

I noticed on eBay batteries for the Note 4 list compatible models for each battery. Are batteries for all Note 4 variants interchangeable? Or do I need to get one for my specific model? My phone is the SM-N910V model.
I'm in Canada and not looking for one of those big batteries. Just the stock/oem battery.

Personally, i would go for ravpower brand battery. on amazon too and there is for your model

raul6 said:
Personally, i would go for ravpower brand battery. on amazon too and there is for your model
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Damn. I forgot about the Ravpower batteries. I had to run out and stop the garbage truck so I could snatch my phone out of the trash. I thought it was a goner. Just ordered a Ravpower from Amazon and saved my phone in time. :good:

heaven can wait that particular note 4

raul6 said:
heaven can wait that particular note 4
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I had to run out naked. I didn't have time to put my slippers on or some shorts. I got it tho. Should be getting the battery next week.

DelphinusMinor said:
I had to run out naked. I didn't have time to put my slippers on or some shorts. I got it tho. Should be getting the battery next week.
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Lol I wouldn't be able to trash a phone, it will come back and haunt me. I know you have an LG now but how was the battery and what customisations did you do to improve battery life?
I got a ravpower battery few days ago but need some help with tweaking kernel settings etc to improve battery life as it is not that good.
Tried these optimisers like FDE and LKT but no luck, haven't tested LKT properly though as an update for FDE came out that should've fixed the CPU/GPU turbo boost thing.
Also, I don't care about gaming like PUBG (although I like it :laugh: )
Thanks for your previous advice/help and now of course.
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You know what I think it's doing 10x better without optimiser thing. 10% lost by browsing on xda for 40min. Might be speaking too early.
Definitely still interested in changing some things around to improve it so please hit me with the facts/guides/tutorials/walkthroughs??!

Windroid-user said:
Lol I wouldn't be able to trash a phone, it will come back and haunt me. I know you have an LG now but how was the battery and what customisations did you do to improve battery life?
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Of course that wasn't a true story. Hah. I would never toss my "baby".
I haven't played with it much since but I ended up getting the Ravpower for it. It was cheap and arrived promptly. I used Kernel Audiutor for it and it's set to whatever the default is.
I can say I have gotten at least 90 more mins of SOT and more than a week of standby. Maybe even more. I'll power it up sometime soon and check Battery Bot.

Screenshot of my standby time. My OST is only ten mins at this point tho since this is no longer my daily driver.

DelphinusMinor said:
Of course that wasn't a true story. Hah. I would never toss my "baby".
I haven't played with it much since but I ended up getting the Ravpower for it. It was cheap and arrived promptly. I used Kernel Audiutor for it and it's set to whatever the default is.
I can say I have gotten at least 90 more mins of SOT and more than a week of standby. Maybe even more. I'll power it up sometime soon and check Battery Bot.
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Wow I actually believed it, was gonna ask if you tossed it at the bottom of a pretty much empty bin or... but it's getting emptied so must be full unless you did it earlier haha. Because I was wondering about the damage that may have occurred if this actually happened (from throwing it in the bin and then truck). How the hell would you find your phone just laying on top of all the trash in the garbage truck?!?! Now it makes sense that that's not true. I am really dumb:cyclops:
OK now I got that out of my head are you saying that kernel auditor automatically configures some things without you adjusting anything in the app? Because I didn't know that. Also what you mean by Battery Bot?
I don't think it does that unless you picked a standard configured profile that kernel auditor gives you based on device or something (not someone else's log configuration file or whatever you call it)
But like I said I don't know my kernel stuff... take your time I'm in no rush after all all of this is free and out of kindness which is something I really appreciate from XDA (or even the internet in general (duh))
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Ignore battery Bot question that was quick!
Still need to look at screenshot though
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I can confidently say I will get between 4-5hr SOT compared to trash SOT before (min 2hr max 4hr suprisingly, probably less intensive use)
On average 4.5 hours at least

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I joke around often. Battery Bot is a great battery tool. I put the widget for it on my home screen and check it now and again to see how much approximate SOT I have left, how long it's been on standby, etc.