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Root, enable hidden features,unroot with out recovery or unlocking bootloader?

Basically i want to edit some build.prop lines and enable features like wake with double tap,but my warranty will be void. The phone's been with me for only 4 months only. So can i root using maybe kingroot,edit the files and then unroot like nothing ever happened?

i think this phone needs a modified boot image for root, which needs the bootloader to be unlocked to boot.
you shouldn't use kingroot even if it does work, many people warn you to not install it. kingroot is a bit shady.
just use any of the normal root methods on this forum. you could unroot and install stock recovery and then relock the bootloader, but you have to search around for instructions for that

A normal or a systemless root (S5 Neo G903F)

I want to root my phone, and I haven't been doing that kind of stuff since S3 so I'm a bit lost.
I've read the thread about root by Chainfire. From what I understand, this can be used for a phone with Android 6.01, right? On the other hand, I've read about a systemless root. Can this be done with my phone model and this Android version?
My main concern is the warranty. I know the first solution will trip the knox. What about the latter? Would this be better in my situation?
(And a minor question: my phone has found a software update. Should I do it before or after rooting my phone, or does it matter at all?)

for me and it can be different for other users, i have a preference for system root.

if you just want a stable root on your phone, and don't care about passing google security checks (safetynet) you should choose chainfires supersu. just download the latest zip (assuming you already have a custom recovery) and flash it. supersu will "decide" which rooting method (system/systemless) fits to your phone.
The more advanced method is magisk-root which gives you no option for system-root. the whole magisk concept is based on systemless changes to the system partition. it gives you the opportunity to pass safetynet and to add systemless modules. the downside is, that the usability (due to it's complexity) can sometimes be a bit tricky (trial and error )
hope this helped for your decision..
BTW: afaik is knox triggered with both methods

drei.liter.milch said:
if you just want a stable root on your phone, and don't care about passing google security checks (safetynet) you should choose chainfires supersu. just download the latest zip (assuming you already have a custom recovery) and flash it. supersu will "decide" which rooting method (system/systemless) fits to your phone.
The more advanced method is magisk-root which gives you no option for system-root. the whole magisk concept is based on systemless changes to the system partition. it gives you the opportunity to pass safetynet and to add systemless modules. the downside is, that the usability (due to it's complexity) can sometimes be a bit tricky (trial and error )
hope this helped for your decision..
BTW: afaik is knox triggered with both methods
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To add something: if supersu installs in systemless mode you can bypass it.
Flash the supersu zip
Reboot
Go to supersu and select full root wipe
Click no when asked to restore boot image
Your phone will automatically reboot don't let it go to system, go to recovery
With twrp go to terminal and enter this command without quotes "echo SYSTEMLESS=false>>/data/.supersu
Reinstall supersu zip
Reboot
You yave system root :good:
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Thanks for your replies! I do not care about safetynet. I do care about warranty but from what I see, there is no way around this.
Would you update phone's software first?

Joanka said:
Thanks for your replies! I do not care about safetynet. I do care about warranty but from what I see, there is no way around this.
Would you update phone's software first?
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Yeah update your system first and if you need warranty just full wipe root and select yes for biit image restore from supersu let us know if it works for you and don't hesitate to ask if you need anything
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Thanks for your help! I'm updating the sofware right now and I will proceed with the root.
"just full wipe root and select yes for biit image restore from supersu" -I think I'm not sure what it means. Would you explain it a little bit more?

Joanka said:
Thanks for your help! I'm updating the sofware right now and I will proceed with the root.
"just full wipe root and select yes for biit image restore from supersu" -I think I'm not sure what it means. Would you explain it a little bit more?
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Yes, click full unroot and click yes for boot image restore but no for recovery restore
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I have mine (S5 Neo G903W) rooted and as far as I can tell if you want your warranty you can unroot it anytime
The phone provider however doesn't state anything about rooting or whatnot and I am not a type of person who does stupid stuff that needs a warranty anyway lol

For warranty they can check knox status, if is tripped usually is void

Can we flash custom rom without rooting the Mi A1 ?

Flashing the custom rom with rooting the device make the device less secure and we cannot use the internet banking applications so , can we flash the custom rom without rooting the device ! If, yes then what will be the procedure !?

altafalam540 said:
Flashing the custom rom with rooting the device make the device less secure and we cannot use the internet banking applications so , can we flash the custom rom without rooting the device ! If, yes then what will be the procedure !?
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Jajajajajaja sorry but your question is very funny????
But no, it's not possible install custom ROM without root

I would think one can flash when booted into TWRP. One needs to be unlocked though.
The custom ROM you flash does not need to be rooted either.
In fact one can boot into TWRP from fastboot. So one does not even need TWRP on the device itself.

You do not need to root your device to use a custom ROM. But if you wanna flash GApps, then you need to root your device or it may not work as intended.

Wrong, Gapps can be installed from TWRP which has unlimited access to the system partition. In that sense, TWRP is "rooted". But this has nothing to do with the installed firmware being rooted or not.

altafalam540 said:
Flashing the custom rom with rooting the device make the device less secure and we cannot use the internet banking applications so , can we flash the custom rom without rooting the device ! If, yes then what will be the procedure !?
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Wow this thread exploded with mis-information.
You can install custom ROM's unto your device via TWRP, as well as flash GAPPS and any custom kernels, mods etc you'd like WITHOUT having to gain superuser access within the ROM itself.
You WILL however require to unlock your bootloader that, at least as far as I know, WILL trigger safety net and thus render certain applications (like said banking apps) unusable. To avoid this you can flash magisk, an alternative root solution that also masks certain aspects of the device that allows the device to pass safetynet while retaining root.
There are plentiful amounts of tutorials out pretty much everywhere that will allow you to easily unlock your bootloader, install twrp and root w/ magisk if desired, etc.

DECHTECH said:
Wow this thread exploded with mis-information.
You can install custom ROM's unto your device via TWRP, as well as flash GAPPS and any custom kernels, mods etc you'd like WITHOUT having to gain superuser access within the ROM itself.
You WILL however require to unlock your bootloader that, at least as far as I know, WILL trigger safety net and thus render certain applications (like said banking apps) unusable. To avoid this you can either A. Relock your bootloader after flashing custom rom (should work) or B. Flash magisk, an alternative root solution that also masks certain aspects of the device that allows the device to pass safetynet while retaining root.
There are plentiful amounts of tutorials out pretty much everywhere that will allow you to easily unlock your bootloader, install twrp and root w/ magisk if desired, etc.
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I don't think you can relock the bootloader when on a custom rom. This will probably brick your device since it will fail the checks of the locked bootloader and then you will have a bricked device with a locked bootloader.
So yeah, you also spread some misinformation I suppose which is even more dangerous than what the other users suggested.

+1, no way you can relock your bootloader after installing a custom firmware. Bootloop guaranteed.

michkost858 said:
I don't think you can relock the bootloader when on a custom rom. This will probably brick your device since it will fail the checks of the locked bootloader and then you will have a bricked device with a locked bootloader.
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Lannig said:
+1, no way you can relock your bootloader after installing a custom firmware. Bootloop guaranteed.
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Could have sworn you could do this but I guess I was wrong, sorry for that.
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Unlocked bootloader, no root: how to fix GPay?

I've unlocked bootloader with the official tool but didn't do root. Now I have trouble with GPay saying that my device cannot be used for paying.
I don't need root now. So, the question is: is there any way to relock bootloader without rooting the device, installing TWRP, Magisk etc? Or, maybe, can I just trick GPay into believing that everything's fine without relocking?
Any response would be strongly appreciated.

Booolat said:
I've unlocked bootloader with the official tool but didn't do root. Now I have trouble with GPay saying that my device cannot be used for paying.
I don't need root now. So, the question is: is there any way to relock bootloader without rooting the device, installing TWRP, Magisk etc? Or, maybe, can I just trick GPay into believing that everything's fine without relocking?
Any response would be strongly appreciated.
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If you don't need root, why did you unlock it in the first place? You can't relock your bootloader if you have unlocked it with official tool. But by installing Magisk, you can use GPay. If you don't need root, disable it in Magisk settings.

anagramgenius said:
If you don't need root, why did you unlock it in the first place? You can't relock your bootloader if you have unlocked it with official tool. But by installing Magisk, you can use GPay. If you don't need root, disable it in Magisk settings.
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I was trying to resolve some strange unmanageable issue with BT headphones volume and sound quality by installing Ainur module. But somehow it resolved on its own during the unlocking process (due to reset, I guess).
Anyway, I've got the answer: no GPay without root and Magisk. Thank you!

Flash Official Stock ROM with Root?

I have a Magisk-rooted LG V35 running some uncertified custom ROM installed by former owner. I'm wondering if it is possible to flash an official stock ROM on the phone without losing root? My goal is maximum compatibility with standard functions (e.g. VoLTE, Google/Firebase Cloud Messaging, etc.) with root.

as long as you dont lock the bootloader, you can flash the stock firmware and then root the phone
even if you lock the bootloader, you can unlock it, but it's a bit harder
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