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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
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bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
manuelcalavera said:
bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
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Its not only bigger screen... its also bigger resolution (By 25%)...
If its another type of screen, it could even have better performance at less ennergy consumption
Great video tough i can't undestand that language either.
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
Thanks
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I don't understand what you mean.
the maximum of vids you can play (or lets say that the screen will show you) is ofcourse its own resolution. So you will not see real HD videos as this screen has not got a real HD resolution. But its own resolution is no problem for the CPU. Playing a movie with a bigger size, will just downscale the video to the resoultion of the HD but as there is more data to process, it may slow the CPU more down, depending of how big the movie is. but you would not want to play a 1080p video on this anyway as it would just use up huge amount of storage space, but doesn't look better. You will get the best and sharpest images if you convert your movies to the exact resolution of the screen.
Oh I understood your point, cause you probably use PocketDivXEncoder..
I was just comparing with HTC Kaiser.. On videos as well as other stuff, it sucked.
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
donbronzi said:
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
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i cant imagine that the HD as any problem with videos. It often just highly depends on the play. Windows media play is crap in playing videos most of the time. But even my old Compaq Ipaq could play videos very smooth.
Some players are faster then others.
language is czech
I thought it was Czech!!
But can you translate that part?
I think that it isn't very fluid the streaming..
Sometimes we notice some delays.. On my Diamond I can see it too..
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos?
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to answer the original question, no it will not be able to play HD videos.
HD by definition is at least 720p, that's 720p or 1080p by today's market distribution, may be later on, there will be some weird resolution at 960p or something like that. but right now HD video are only available in 720p or 1080p
1. the video chip is not powerful enough to decode HD content,
2. windows mobile 6 doesn't support HD content
3. Touch HD only has screen resolution of 800x640, again far from HD
4. CPU isn't power enough to decode HD content (even a full desktop/laptop 500 MHz cpu isn't enough to decode, let alone a stripped down mobile cpu.)
im sure that this "HD" will have some serious problems on playing good resolution videos ...
man , qualcomm's 528 Mhz is the CPU of htc diamond, and they let that beast to have this heart on his chest ! its not fair
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAROWXVQiw&feature=related
Look at 7 min, he shows a youtube movie wvga quality. It doesn't play very smooth either. Let's hope its because of a bad connection or something.
And lets not forget that the units floating around as preview units did carry unfinished ROM and early-stage drivers
Lucas0511 said:
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
buggybug0 said:
oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic.
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i am thinking of the OP's original question "can HD play HD videos" of course i understand the resolution of this phone and the video it will play.
so i dont know what you are thinking posting without reading the entire thread.
my post, which you quoted was wishing for playing good video at a decent frame rate. sure you can play videos on your 6 year old ppc, but try play, say a jet li movie on there, all his actions are a blur because the framerate isn't fast enough to capture all his kungfu actions. dido for sports videos. you understand now?
and if you are confused regarding why the OP want to watch and HD video on a non HD display, well i can tell you it is possible to put a video with higher resolution on a device which lower resolution display. it will just be upto that CPU to decode and shrink the video. suuurree, it doens't make sense, but it's do-able.. uptill a certain point (resolution), above which it will be too heavy and too much work for the CPU. and if you want to ask why, well i'm guessing 1. the OP was mislead by the phone's name Touch HD, 2. he may not have the time or software or doesn't want to reprocess the movies to 800x480.
and if you are still confused after reading all that.. well... ummm... LOL
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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Aye but i'd love to seen a flawless WGVA streaming video....
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that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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technically i disagree, but from a practical standpoint, sure, i'll go with that. those net videos doesn't require much processing power to decode, very little load on cpu.
Raziel1 said:
it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem.
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Traditionally speaking, all HTC devices have very poor video playback .
Till the latest batch of VGA Devices (Diamond and Touch Pro) which i have no access to and hence cannot comment upon, all previous VGA devices had problem playing back video ENCODED AT THERE NATIVE RESOLUTION. (for reference, have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324371&highlight=video)
the best i could manage was a 532x300 xvid with a bitrate of 800-1200.
so it will be a very pleasant surprise if the HD can playback video encoded at 640x480 leave alone 800x480.
On a side note, since HD will be pretty similar to the Diamond / Touch Pro , you could probably ask your friends to run a benchmark with different resolutions and bitrates.
I'm going to make the final decision on buying these... I rather choose both of this phone over iPhone.. The screen resolution is high and I love that !
Video playback & Youtube 60%
Call & Organizer 30%
Games 10%
I didn't care if it has qwerty keyboard or not. I did care a little on size of the screen but I really want the one that have the good video playback experience.
I saw many vid from youtube that the touch HD screen is kind of yellow.. I just wanna know that can I fix that sort of problem (well, it's a problem for me). I see that the X1 has the better contrat and more beautiful (as I see from youtube). I really like the 3.8 inches screen. Is there any color fix on the HD?
My HD doesn't have any yellowness with video playback .
Blacks and whites are both pure. I compared my HD video playback to a X1 and the HD wins handsout. Even if it's just the way bigger screen which is real comfortable with watching, it wins. And by having coreplayer you can just throw any divx movie at it and it'll play it without stuttering.
Performance wise there isn't a whole lot of difference though.
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To improve performance with video playback on your HD you should do some minor tweaks which will help alot, like the SD Tuneup tweak. Theres a thread on improving video playback and how you do it aswell.
I watch load of films on my HD and I have never noticed a problem with yellowness. Then again I have not seen the screen of the X1.
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To improve performance with video playback on your HD you should do some minor tweaks which will help alot, like the SD Tuneup tweak. Theres a thread on improving video playback and how you do it aswell.
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antrak, never sure whether to install SD tuneup on the phone or the card, which do you recommend?
TIA
gromitt said:
antrak, never sure whether to install SD tuneup on the phone or the card, which do you recommend?
TIA
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It's supposed to be installed on the internal memory (phone) which will then allow for faster file access on your card.
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I have both an X1 and a HD, I just compared the 2 and the X1 has a slightly higher contrast. The HD still looks better then the X1 though cause of the screen size and is much more comfortable watching.
Too bad I don't have a camcorder otherwise I could post a comparison vid for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zwqv9PU3ns
here this is what I mean.. It seem that the color and the contrast on the touch hd seem to be yellow. Look at the background when it is white on the iPhone.. I'm not sure about it, anyway thx about the replies : ) i don't know that it is like this or not
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zwqv9PU3ns
here this is what I mean.. It seem that the color and the contrast on the touch hd seem to be yellow. Look at the background when it is white on the iPhone.. I'm not sure about it, anyway thx about the replies : ) i don't know that it is like this or not
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It's not as bad as it looks in that video. I only noticed that its not bright white yesterday when i had my Touch HD next to a Blackbetty 8900 and could see the blackberry was whiter. It's white but not as white as other phones, and certainly not yellow.
Looks to me more like the iPhone is too blue
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guess i make a stupid thread haha
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There is absolutely no yellowness issue you mention. The HD movie performance are just insane, better than any currently available device - it's just awesome. I watch a lot of movies on HD and I'm always blown away with the quality.
The fact that you can use just normal DIVX movies from torrents is also very cool.
Also, as for the contrast / brightness, I don't know if you guys are aware, but you can actually control the color adjustments in Core player, and some of those presets do produce a punchier video image, more saturated, deeper blacks etc. Beware that using custom color adjustments can have a negative impact on performance in some cases. So, if you experience lag, just turn it back to "native".
Also, you need to take into consideration whether your device has auto-adjust brightness turned on, because it's possible that is reducing the overall image brightness.
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I saw many vid from youtube that the touch HD screen is kind of yellow.. I just wanna know that can I fix that sort of problem (well, it's a problem for me). I see that the X1 has the better contrat and more beautiful (as I see from youtube). I really like the 3.8 inches screen. Is there any color fix on the HD?
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There's no color problem. I guess the problem you saw was related to the white balance of the video (or maybe it is your LCD monitor)?
Anyway, mine is fine. The 3.8" screen is amazing for videos and there are no color problems. You don't really get to run 800x480 vids, that's too big.. But even smaller, e.g. VGA quality films look terrific. Remember that it's higher than the resolution of a TV set.
As for games.. If you want games - BUY AN IPOD. The HD / X1 are both based on WM and they are no match for the IPOD.
Hope that helps you..
Ethan
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You don't really get to run 800x480 vids, that's too big..
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Sure you do. Use h264 in mp4, run in wmp or album, and you get acceleration. Looks great, and you can re-encode ntsc DVDs (720*480) in 1:1, so no loss of quality through scaling.
What graphics settings do you use?
Do you guys use gfx tool?
Custom kernels (with gpu/cpu overclock) help?
As i couldnt find the right settings.
Is sdm625 capable of playing the game at HD realistic, 1920*[email protected]
alkesh95 said:
What graphics settings do you use?
Do you guys use gfx tool?
Custom kernels (with gpu/cpu overclock) help?
As i couldnt find the right settings.
Is sdm625 capable of playing the game at HD realistic, 1920*[email protected]
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Put at default graphics it should work fine with minor lag. increase the graphics it starts to lag.
I keep everything at low, increasing it does not actually help. I am on stock ROM. I am happy with the performance, as long as i can keep killing few guys.
I keep it smooth with realistic & high from rates .. It works superfine with barely any frame drop.. Results are consistent .. U can try out mah settings
fact snapdragon 625 will still have lag when you playing games like pubg or mobile legends. snapdragon 800+ better than 625+ for games. but for social media, browsing i think no have different.
Sandivisi said:
fact snapdragon 625 will still have lag when you playing games like pubg or mobile legends. snapdragon 800+ better than 625+ for games. but for social media, browsing i think no have different.
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I am late in replying here. But that "fact" was very helpful as i had no idea that Snapdragon 8XX series existed. Shame on me.
I'm on lineage 15.1 with velocity kernel on performance mode (2.4hz cpu and 855hz gpu)with the ElementalX governer and play on balanced realistic.
alkesh95 said:
What graphics settings do you use?
Do you guys use gfx tool?
Custom kernels (with gpu/cpu overclock) help?
As i couldnt find the right settings.
Is sdm625 capable of playing the game at HD realistic, 1920*[email protected]
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Iam on gzosp rom..i use gfx tool to play pubg on hd settings with fps set to ultra. No lags or whatever I've even played it with hdr and still no lags..the game feels like butter...try it urslf
apexashwin said:
Iam on gzosp rom..i use gfx tool to play pubg on hd settings with fps set to ultra. No lags or whatever I've even played it with hdr and still no lags..the game feels like butter...try it urslf
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There must have been misunderstanding on your side as we can't play hdr mode on non hdr device. Display must be hdr.
Will try hd and fps ultra. Thanks
alkesh95 said:
There must have been misunderstanding on your side as we can't play hdr mode on non hdr device. Display must be hdr.
Will try hd and fps ultra. Thanks
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Lol no u can try it urslf..u can actually play with hdr graphics and it doesn't lag
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Lol no u can try it urslf..u can actually play with hdr graphics and it doesn't lag
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That may be true. But you need hdr display to take advantage of hdr graphics.
And i have tried on hd graphics are little choppy
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That may be true. But you need hdr display to take advantage of hdr graphics.
And i have tried on hd graphics are little choppy
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No probs for me... which rom are u on
Hey how to increase graphic in the MI A1 Mobile for PUBG Game .............????
yadav007 said:
Hey how to increase graphic in the MI A1 Mobile for PUBG Game .............????
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Gfx tool from playstore
Sandivisi said:
fact snapdragon 625 will still have lag when you playing games like pubg or mobile legends. snapdragon 800+ better than 625+ for games. but for social media, browsing i think no have different.
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its the gpu man. the cpu is more than enough for it. if you are rooted, give a little boost for the gpu by overclocking but dont expect a miracle out of it.
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its the gpu man. the cpu is more than enough for it. if you are rooted, give a little boost for the gpu by overclocking but dont expect a miracle out of it.
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Use gltools [its a paid app]
Fake gpu with andreno 540 template.
The results will amaze you.
JaadiBooti said:
I'm on lineage 15.1 with velocity kernel on performance mode (2.4hz cpu and 855hz gpu)with the ElementalX governer and play on balanced realistic.
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I recommend low graphics and high fps.
I use GFXtool to set graphics to smooth + Ultra (60fps) frame rate. It's very playable and very smooth.
Using HD also works fine but the issue is with frame drops when there's a lot going on (frag grenades and specially smoke)
You can also set it to HDR but you'd need a phone with an HDR display for it to work.
Hey.
Does game mode really improve the performance of my phone?
So you use it??
If you mean the game mode of the game suite, I have not noticed any particular improvement, perhaps it depends on the games. But I've just discovered an interesting trick to greatly increase the framerate and graphics settings, just go into the phone settings, display, screen resolution and set up 1280x720 then in HD, I tested Shadowgun Legends and is playable even ultra graphics and it is really very fluid! The phone heats up even less, and the framerate increases a lot. Obviously the screen will be slightly blurred but that does not compromise the playability. I've also tested Injustice 2 and it's much smoother and smoother than Full HD. So lowering the resolution to 720p you have a real performance boost! A bit like what happens in PC games. I hope it will come in handy to some of you, and let me know!
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Hello everyone.
I have converted from Rog Phone 2 to Oneplus 8 Pro as the bottom port of my rog phone 2 got damaged and was giving hot temperature warning all the time. My model is IN2020. I am a gamer and I have noticed that as compared to rog phone 2 the touch is slow as I do not think it to be 240hz touch sampling rate at all. I play pubg at 90 fps using [email protected] and same display settings for COD Mobile but 60 fps. I can feel the slow touch response even while scrolling. I would like to know if someone has converted from gaming phone and having the same problem.
Thanks
zohaibshafijutt said:
Hello everyone.
I have converted from Rog Phone 2 to Oneplus 8 Pro as the bottom port of my rog phone 2 got damaged and was giving hot temperature warning all the time. My model is IN2020. I am a gamer and I have noticed that as compared to rog phone 2 the touch is slow as I do not think it to be 240hz touch sampling rate at all. I play pubg at 90 fps using [email protected] and same display settings for COD Mobile but 60 fps. I can feel the slow touch response even while scrolling. I would like to know if someone has converted from gaming phone and having the same problem.
Thanks
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As a gamer on pc and phones (emulators not the games you've mentioned) I play at 144hz and 200hz on a G-Sync Acer predator z35, but it's dependent on the game and if I can push those FPS, just because a screen is capable doesn't mean your CPU/GPU is.
I would recommend matching the game refresh rate.
You've got a 30fps overhead there PUBG and a 60fps overhead on cod.
Reduce the QHD to FHD, the difference is negligible.
If any of these games can actually run at 120hz then I'd recommend using 120hz, make sure game mode is on for these apps.
Make sure you are actually getting a locked 120fps not 90 or 60.
Remove any other motion smoothing for these apps, they won't help and will reduce input.
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As a gamer on pc and phones (emulators not the games you've mentioned) I play at 144hz and 200hz on a G-Sync Acer predator z35, but it's dependent on the game and if I can push those FPS, just because a screen is capable doesn't mean your CPU/GPU is.
I would recommend matching the game refresh rate.
You've got a 30fps overhead there PUBG and a 60fps overhead on cod.
Reduce the QHD to FHD, the difference is negligible.
If any of these games can actually run at 120hz then I'd recommend using 120hz, make sure game mode is on for these apps.
Make sure you are actually getting a locked 120fps not 90 or 60.
Remove any other motion smoothing for these apps, they won't help and will reduce input.
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Well I have turned the display resolution to FHD+. The touch response is better now than QHD+.
zohaibshafijutt said:
Well I have turned the display resolution to FHD+. The touch response is better now than QHD+.
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Yep I found the same, that's input lag induced by the resolution though, not the touch display.