Why is it that there is no flashfire and roms even though there is root for this 6th gen? I thought the workaround for a locked bootloader was safestrap/flashfire type utilty, like my old Droid4 and 5th gen Fire 7? Obviously there is some other limitation, can someone educate me? Thanks.
There is no root for any Amazon tablets at this time unless you have and OS earlier than 5.3.2.1.
right and the HD8 has been rooted for many months, so then a flashfire and rom should be possible right? Do I have the basic assumption correct that as long as you can get root you can still install roms with a locked bootloader, or is it more complicated than that?
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My Fire automatically updated to 5.3.2.1 in December and now I cant root it without hard bricking it so I had some questions about my situation here.
Will there be root in the future for 5.3.2.1? I'm not knowledgeable in the matter at all but I've seen some groups/teams say that the hack they released will only ever work on a certain version and not in future ones due to system limitations or the company patching the security flaw they worked so hard to find so I was curious if there's still hope for people that updated or accidentally updated to latest.
And what is the best way and most efficient to disable system updates while I hope for root in my current version?
Thanks
It is just a matter of time, Kingroot would probably be the first to root this device version.
It's so crazy that it's even legal for companies to deny people root to their OWN devices, insane and I hate it.
Hello XDA community,
This is my first post on here and I hope I'm not doing something wrong in terms of protocol, but I have a rough idea on finding a root for this phone that needs support and refining from you guys, the XDA community.
My idea is this: If we can find a way to downgrade the phone software back to before the December 2016 security patch, we can run a Dirty Cow root exploit (, which is ready to go on GitHub, ) to temp root this device (or any device, in theory). Once we have temp root, we could run a program like SunShine or whatever else to turn that temp root to perm root. (SunShine currently says that, to full root this device, it needs some kind of temp root.)
Now going back to the first part about downgrading the software to before the December 2016 security update, I initially thought we could achieve this through mfastboot or RSD Lite, since they allow flashing of officially signed Motorola firmwares. However, I read that when upgrading the Moto Z, and presumably all other variants, from Android MM to Android N, the (locked) bootloader is updated, too, and will not allow downgrading, resulting in a prevalidaton error. This is where I need your help.
The question is: How can we downgrade the firmware back to MM, or some other before-December firmware, to use Dirty Cow for root. Please leave ANY suggestions in the comments.
Thank you for your time and help. I have faith that we will be able to solve this together.
I don't think you can downgrade. But i've been running this for the past 9 or so months to prevent the forced updates: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-moto-z-play-apps-stop-ota-motocare-t3538812
(no idea if that would work on the z force)
Well I know there are many videos on YouTube claiming to downgrade certain Moto devices through RSD Lite or mfastboot for different budget Moto devices, but I suspect they are all fake. Nonetheless, I hope there is a legitimate way to downgrade.
I forgot to mention that if you can get a replacement Moto Z Force from Verizon, which is very easy to do in my area, they ship you a refurbished replacement, which runs marshmallow and has no updates installed, but I don't have the opportunity to get another replacement, so for anyone else, that's one way you could "downgrade" and try Dirty Cow to root the device.
I'm just going by this topic https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/dont-upgrade-to-nougat-ota-t3524456
but i don't really know for sure
Wow. Now I wish I'd known about this MUCH sooner. Its too late for me. Well, in that case, try to see if you can revert back to marshmallow if you unofficially upgraded to nougat and check what month of security patches you are on. If it's before the December 2016 security patch, then you can run Dirty Cow and get temporary root. With temp root you can most likely find a way to make it permanent root.
i have a kindle fire hd 82017 (douglas, i believe) here with fire os 5.3.3.0, and have successfully blocked the update servers on my router.
i understand the root situation ive done my research, however, i see that the hd10 has been rooted and it works better on lower versions.
does anyone know the root method used for the HD10? the one that kingo uses? their chpsets are very similar, and im wondering if someone knows how to find that information, or if theres some email address or report system for kingo to ask them to use the same method on the 8 models.
also, if anyone knows downgradibility, or links to some firmware for the 2017 variant of this OS it would be appreciated
also anyone know of any ideas they never got to try on 5.3.3.0? i
PS i have another one that 5.4.0.0 NOT .1, so i think it can be downgraded slightly lower? anyone has anything they wanna try, ive got 2 tablets id be willing to try anything on.
P.P.S. if we do get root, couldnt we then get the scatter and help other get rooted? or does the lockedbootloader prevent that entirely?
Just want to say great job on the rooting keep it up and wanted to ask if you were going to root the current updated version or if its possible to roll this update back to root the device?
Thanks again
Cod3waX said:
Just want to say great job on the rooting keep it up and wanted to ask if you were going to root the current updated version or if its possible to roll this update back to root the device?
Thanks again
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If you rolling back the Fire OS version, will cause a brick.
You can root using exploit (follow the step carefully): https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-8-2017-douglas-t3962846
AmznUser444 Dev said:
If you rolling back the Fire OS version, will cause a brick.
You can root using exploit (follow the step carefully): https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-8-2017-douglas-t3962846
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The rooting thread can be confusing, as the OP assumes an older version of FireOS. It is still easy to root 5.3.7.0 though.
Look specifically at posts 272, 377 and 472 which specifically list which files to download from the OP and have all the steps required to root 5.3.7.0
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The rooting thread can be confusing, as the OP assumes an older version of FireOS. It is still easy to root 5.3.7.0 though.
Look specifically at posts 272, 377 and 472 which specifically list which files to download from the OP and have all the steps required to root 5.3.7.0
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im having trouble understanding the thread as it states
NOTE: If you are already rooted, continue with the next step, otherwise get mtk-su by @diplomatic from here and place (the unpacked binary) into amonet/bin folder
STATUS
Confirmed Working
Fire HD 8 7th gen (2017) -- up to Fire OS 5.6.4.0 build 636558520 only
Note that for Fire OS 5, OS version 5.3.x.x is newer than 5.6.x.x.
there is no root my OS/Build ?
I got the error, "This firmware cannot be supported". What do I do?
This means that your device's firmware is not prone to the mechanism used by mtk-su. Check the firmware version and build number of the OS on your device. If your version is higher than that next to your device on the list above, then mtk-su will no longer work on your device. There may be other ways to achieve root. Check elsewhere on the forum.
Cod3waX said:
im having trouble understanding the thread as it states
NOTE: If you are already rooted, continue with the next step, otherwise get mtk-su by @diplomatic from here and place (the unpacked binary) into amonet/bin folder
STATUS
Confirmed Working
Fire HD 8 7th gen (2017) -- up to Fire OS 5.6.4.0 build 636558520 only
Note that for Fire OS 5, OS version 5.3.x.x is newer than 5.6.x.x.
there is no root my OS/Build ?
I got the error, "This firmware cannot be supported". What do I do?
This means that your device's firmware is not prone to the mechanism used by mtk-su. Check the firmware version and build number of the OS on your device. If your version is higher than that next to your device on the list above, then mtk-su will no longer work on your device. There may be other ways to achieve root. Check elsewhere on the forum.
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mtk-su vulnerability was patch by Amazon, and is no longer a valid method to obtain root on firmware 5.3.7.0.
Download brick-douglas.zip and amonet-douglas-v1.2.zip from the OP. Then from linux, run the steps as outlined in post 377. You do not need to open the tablet.
Amazon messed up the version numbers. 5.3.7.1 is actually the most current firmware version, even though numerically, it comes before the versions that the mtk-su exploit worked on
Ok im not happy at attempting this, i cant afford to brick this tablet
Instead of having to root thru the forums for bits and pieces of information
I would like if someone could give me a dummies guide / rundown to rooting and installing mods to this tablet
It would be very helpful to me and possibly many others
Thanks in advance
Cod3waX said:
Ok im not happy at attempting this, i cant afford to brick this tablet
Instead of having to root thru the forums for bits and pieces of information
I would like if someone could give me a dummies guide / rundown to rooting and installing mods to this tablet
It would be very helpful to me and possibly many others
Thanks in advance
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What fireOS version are you on? this will be the key to having to open the device or a software exploit. To be clear, you have a 8hd (2017) - Douglas correct?
Michajin said:
What fireOS version are you on? this will be the key to having to open the device or a software exploit. To be clear, you have a 8hd (2017) - Douglas correct?
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Fire HD 8 7th Gen Running Fire OS 5.6.6.0 (654620620) installed 2nd June
Cod3waX said:
Fire HD 8 7th Gen Running Fire OS 5.6.6.0 (654620620) installed 2nd June
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You might have to do the hardware option. I seen that kingoroot was rooting the hd10 (2017) so that might be an option if you dont want to open the device.
Attempt to get root with this, dont reboot if is works, Run the first step...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...hd-8-hd-10-t3904595/post82713979#post82713979
or check this out... post #513
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...unlock-fire-hd-8-2017-douglas-t3962846/page52
Read through the last few pages...
I have a firestick 2nd Gen software version 5x but it won't update
It checks for updates but won't update. Even spoken to Amazon and theyve said it requires a number of updates but they didn't know what to suggest.
I've factory reset the device a number of times and hasn't helped.
Is there any way to manually update it.
I want it to run v6x or7 if possible so that I can run the latest wolf launcher and launcher manager.
TIA
bartjunited said:
I have a firestick 2nd Gen software version 5x but it won't update
It checks for updates but won't update. Even spoken to Amazon and theyve said it requires a number of updates but they didn't know what to suggest.
I've factory reset the device a number of times and hasn't helped.
Is there any way to manually update it.
I want it to run v6x or7 if possible so that I can run the latest wolf launcher and launcher manager.
TIA
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You wont get a 2nd generation to update to fireos 6 or 7 via OTA (over the air updates) .
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
Unless amazon are willing to send you a replacement it is the only way to successfully bring your OS upto date im afraid .
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You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
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Has anyone done this and can speak to performance?
I have a 1st gen fire tv (not stick) and wondering if it's useful to update and then possibly debloat. Or if this would ultimately be a lot of work for having bad performance in the end.
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Sorry for hijacking this thread, came to the forums looking for something else. Saw the thread, had the thought and just asked. I've tried to read up on rooting and it seems my old firetv (fully upgraded to 5.2.7.4) isn't rootable without soldering so it seems I won't be updating anyway.
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Has anyone done this and can speak to performance?
I have a 1st gen fire tv (not stick) and wondering if it's useful to update and then possibly debloat. Or if this would ultimately be a lot of work for having bad performance in the end.
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Sorry for hijacking this thread, came to the forums looking for something else. Saw the thread, had the thought and just asked. I've tried to read up on rooting and it seems my old firetv (fully upgraded to 5.2.7.4) isn't rootable without soldering so it seems I won't be updating anyway.
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Yes i have done this with several sticks and the update works perfectly, i had a stick stuck on version 5.2.6.8 and successfully flashed 5.2.7.2 r1 then 5.2.7.3 . I cannot say the same for montoya 1st geneartion as it would need to be on one of the very lowest firmwares for this to work .
Bertonumber1 said:
You wont get a 2nd generation to update to fireos 6 or 7 via OTA (over the air updates) .
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
Unless amazon are willing to send you a replacement it is the only way to successfully bring your OS upto date im afraid .
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Thanks for that I didnt know that was the case.
They won't send me a replacement I've spoken to them already about it as its out of warranty.
Would you recommend rooting it etc?
Is it worth the headache?
I've rooted phones before but never a firestick
Bertonumber1 said:
Yes i have done this with several sticks and the update works perfectly, i had a stick stuck on version 5.2.6.8 and successfully flashed 5.2.7.2 r1 then 5.2.7.3 . I cannot say the same for montoya 1st geneartion as it would need to be on one of the very lowest firmwares for this to work .
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Can you share a tutorial please
@bartjunited
Follow this unlock process here :
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 2nd gen (tank)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 2nd gen Fire TV Stick (tank) Current relase: amonet-tank-v1.2.2.zip NOTE: Recent reports indicate a change that disables brom DL-mode The change seems to have been introduced with devices...
forum.xda-developers.com
For firestick 2nd generation
Then download and install via twrp a prerooted rom from here :
Fire TV Stick 2 (tank) Prerooted Stock Images [5.2.7.3_r1]
As usual, this WILL void your warranty and I am NOT responsible for anything you do with this. Installing it properly won't brick your Fire TV, but doing stupid things with it might. First, you must be unlocked. You can follow the instructions...
forum.xda-developers.com
The guides on each of these posts will demonstrate in an infomative way how to upgrade youre firnware on 2nd gen "tank"(5.2.7.3 is current version of prerooted ).
If you need any help just ask and someone will be happy to help
bartjunited said:
I have a firestick 2nd Gen software version 5x but it won't update
It checks for updates but won't update. Even spoken to Amazon and theyve said it requires a number of updates but they didn't know what to suggest.
I've factory reset the device a number of times and hasn't helped.
Is there any way to manually update it.
I want it to run v6x or7 if possible so that I can run the latest wolf launcher and launcher manager.
TIA
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The Amazon website lists this as the current version for Fire Stick 2nd gen:
Fire TV Stick with Alexa Voice Remote: Fire OS 5.2.7.7 (662663620)
Fire TV Device and Accessory Software Updates - Amazon Customer Service
Fire TV devices and paired accessories automatically download software updates when connected to the Internet.
www.amazon.com
Bertonumber1 said:
You wont get a 2nd generation to update to fireos 6 or 7 via OTA (over the air updates) .
You can however update the firmware if you unlock the bootloader install twrp and flash the latest prerooted firmware of your choice .
Unless amazon are willing to send you a replacement it is the only way to successfully bring your OS upto date im afraid .
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Hi.
I'm kindy having the same problem.Got a Fire TV pendent brand new that I never opened and it want update.How do I install the source code update manually?