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Ok, I have searched the forums both in general for the Nexus 4 and in Q & A, but I have not found the answer to my question. I am wanting to purchase the Nexus 4, but T-mobile is sold out in local stores, on their website, and Google play store is sold out of both versions on its website. I have googled for any sort of update by google, looked at twitter pages, but most things are only people complaining about LG and Google in their phail at meeting the supply and demand. I have not ordered a phone, so in that aspect most of the threads created only apply to those who have already found a way to purchase the device and are waiting for confirmation on shipping or something to that extent. I am simply trying to figure out when I will be able to buy it from the google play store. I definitely do not want to have to chip out $500-$700 for the device from people on Ebay and other websites. So, if someone could help clarify this, it would be greatly appreciated.
no one knows when they will be on sale again on the playstore bro..
No body knows when they'll be available for sale. If you signed up for the email newsletter that they used to do they'll tell you.
Wave one was at a certain time. So was wave two (emailed us in advance that it'll be available in a couple of hours to buy)
It can be available today, tomorrow, three weeks. We don't know. Best thing to do is to follow android sites on twitter such as android police. And they usually tweet when it's for sale. Good luck getting one though, you'll most likely have errors of too many people buying and we can't process your order. What I did was spam f5 on checkout and continued until the wallet pop up came up.
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Nevermind.
zephiK said:
No body knows when they'll be available for sale. If you signed up for the email newsletter that they used to do they'll tell you.
Wave one was at a certain time. So was wave two (emailed us in advance that it'll be available in a couple of hours to buy)
It can be available today, tomorrow, three weeks. We don't know. Best thing to do is to follow android sites on twitter such as android police. And they usually tweet when it's for sale. Good luck getting one though, you'll most likely have errors of too many people buying and we can't process your order. What I did was spam f5 on checkout and continued until the wallet pop up came up.
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You can't even put the Nexus 4 in the checkout since it says sold out, or sadly I would keep trying, lol. I wish they would give potential customers some sort of update on this issue. Instead of leaving us guessing on when it might become available. I also heard that the build quality of the Nexus 4 is getting worse, like LG is cutting corners to meet the demands of all the back orders already placed. If this is true that is really sucky news for a lot of people.
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You can't even put the Nexus 4 in the checkout since it says sold out, or sadly I would keep trying, lol. I wish they would give potential customers some sort of update on this issue. Instead of leaving us guessing on when it might become available. I also heard that the build quality of the Nexus 4 is getting worse, like LG is cutting corners to meet the demands of all the back orders already placed. If this is true that is really sucky news for a lot of people.
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No. If you read my post correctly. I was going in sequence talking about when IT BECOMES IN STOCK. If it was available to add to cart as this moment and never went to "sold out" no one would have that error.
As far as rumors... I don't comment on those as it is silly to guess without any proof.
And they usually tweet when it's for sale. Good luck getting one though, you'll most likely have errors of too many people buying and we can't process your order. What I did was spam f5 on checkout and continued until the wallet pop up came up.
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You can't even put the Nexus 4 in the checkout since it says sold out, or sadly I would keep trying, lol. I wish they would give potential customers some sort of update on this issue. Instead of leaving us guessing on when it might become available. I also heard that the build quality of the Nexus 4 is getting worse, like LG is cutting corners to meet the demands of all the back orders already placed. If this is true that is really sucky news for a lot of people.
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I highly doubt the build quality is getting worse because there are only two shipments to go off of anyways.
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Well, I hope not, because I really want to buy the phone, I guess I will have to just wait until Google decides to inform us or someone on here finds out something more.
Idk if you guys have noticed but HTC is declining at an alarming rate http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/13/htc-cuts-15-of-its-workforce-as-it-battles-poor-sales/ and they're worthless http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/10/htc-is-now-essentially-worthless-and-insecure/#.lb8fpr:0sl9 . So do you guys think HTC is doomed or will they make a comeback?
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Idk if you guys have noticed but HTC is declining at an alarming rate http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/13/htc-cuts-15-of-its-workforce-as-it-battles-poor-sales/ and they're worthless http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/10/htc-is-now-essentially-worthless-and-insecure/#.lb8fpr:0sl9 . So do you guys think HTC is doomed or will they make a comeback?
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LOL I read those same links and came up with a different conclusion than you..........................................
In the short term profits are non existent, but that does not mean they are down and out.
Look at most of the USA's motor manufacturers, they were in the same boat not to long back
It's funny you mention this. I was displaying something at work the other day to a coworker and a few of his friends. After the video was over, someone asked: "What phone is that?" I said "The HTC One M9". He responded with "HTC? Wow I haven't seen anyone with an HTC in a long time." The rest of the group nodded. That's when I realized that HTC is behind in the game, even if their Flagship product continues to out-pace the S6 and G4 in terms of battery life and build quality. When people think of buying a new phone the first thing that pops into their heads are either the iPhone or Samsung. Samsung is a massive company that has been saturating the market with advertisements for years. But even moving passed them, what are some other phone manufacturers that normal, non-tech savvy people would think of. LG is a familiar name. HTC? Not so much.
HTC needs to get its name out there. Its making quality devices and no one seems to care. The M9 wasn't a big departure from the M8 in terms of looks and when people buy phones they want to be noticed. A phone is every bit an upgrade to the person's communication capabilities as it is a social status. For the buyers that do research before purchasing a new device, they probably stumbled upon the slew of articles proclaiming the Snapdragon 810's heat problems. They also probably read about the lackluster camera. While the camera, after many updates, is quite good, it still doesn't have basic features like OIS. Unfortunately, we live in a society where the camera is the most important part of the phone; thanks to Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, Facebook, etc. People want a phone that they can just point and shoot in any condition and take a good photo. So when I read articles like the ones you posted above, I find myself not really that surprised. HTC has struggled to keep up with the likes of Samsung, LG and Motorola. Period.
As for me, the M9 is nice, but I absolutely cannot wait for the new Nexus 5 to come out this year. The development community here has some nice content but between Sense and the lack of sources coming from HTC, I find myself missing my old N5 more and more. This will be the last HTC device I'll ever own.
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The M9 wasn't a big departure from the M8 in terms of looks and when people buy phones they want to be noticed.
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Yeah because Apple totally redesign their phones every year and wouldn't possibly ship the same phone again with an S badge on it. People still queue for days down the street for it.
They're in trouble, yes. Even a killer M10 might not be enough because the market is just saturated and the margins on flagship phones are so thin. And they're going to have trouble rolling out a killer phone for the simple reason that nobody can afford to max out the specs anymore and still sell their phones at a profit. I mean, look what happened with the OP2. Even Samsung had to cut corners on the S6 (battery, sdcard slot).
Samsung is surviving on marketing and market share, but when the cheap smartphones from China start really flooding the market, things are going to change for everyone.
Despite the negation of some, HTC is at its darkest hour. If the hero product coming doesn't turns out to be a real hero, I'm afraid the M10 will be the last for them to succeed they need both to be successful, and considering the middle tier and phones like the Redmi Note 2 out there, it's gonna be really hard
In my humble opinion, HTC should try not to compete with Apple and Samsung, but move in a new direction. They should move to a more niche market, keeping the things they are good at and also creating a device that comes rooted, so people who like all the modding can have a device that would truly unique to them or bespoke.
Samsung and Apple are to big now for HTC to compete with, so heading in a completely different directions may save HTC, but the company would be a lot smaller than it is now.
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It's funny you mention this. I was displaying something at work the other day to a coworker and a few of his friends. After the video was over, someone asked: "What phone is that?" I said "The HTC One M9". He responded with "HTC? Wow I haven't seen anyone with an HTC in a long time." The rest of the group nodded. That's when I realized that HTC is behind in the game, even if their Flagship product continues to out-pace the S6 and G4 in terms of battery life and build quality. When people think of buying a new phone the first thing that pops into their heads are either the iPhone or Samsung. Samsung is a massive company that has been saturating the market with advertisements for years. But even moving passed them, what are some other phone manufacturers that normal, non-tech savvy people would think of. LG is a familiar name. HTC? Not so much.
HTC needs to get its name out there. Its making quality devices and no one seems to care. The M9 wasn't a big departure from the M8 in terms of looks and when people buy phones they want to be noticed. A phone is every bit an upgrade to the person's communication capabilities as it is a social status. For the buyers that do research before purchasing a new device, they probably stumbled upon the slew of articles proclaiming the Snapdragon 810's heat problems. They also probably read about the lackluster camera. While the camera, after many updates, is quite good, it still doesn't have basic features like OIS. Unfortunately, we live in a society where the camera is the most important part of the phone; thanks to Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, Facebook, etc. People want a phone that they can just point and shoot in any condition and take a good photo. So when I read articles like the ones you posted above, I find myself not really that surprised. HTC has struggled to keep up with the likes of Samsung, LG and Motorola. Period.
As for me, the M9 is nice, but I absolutely cannot wait for the new Nexus 5 to come out this year. The development community here has some nice content but between Sense and the lack of sources coming from HTC, I find myself missing my old N5 more and more. This will be the last HTC device I'll ever own.
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Great post, I'm with ya... In my case, I miss my OnePlus One just like you miss your Nexus 5. I'm planning on getting one of the two new Nexus that are coming out in October as well, and the M9 is probably going to be my last HTC device as well.
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HTC for ever rip
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Yeah because Apple totally redesign their phones every year and wouldn't possibly ship the same phone again with an S badge on it. People still queue for days down the street for it.
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HTC is not apple. Apple can afford to do that, HTC can't.
I bought the M9 on a whim (and to see if HTC got its head straight after the Doubleshot debacle) and I'm impressed with this phone. Unfortunately it's too little too late.
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I have a lot of htc devices before i buy sgs3 and then sgs5. I go for sammy because there was too many hardware issues with htc phones. But touchwiz i the ugliest launcher. I just can'tuse it. So i install cm on my samsungs. But there was always something that doesnt work as it should. Now with m9 i am very happy again. I would definitely support this copamny in future. I don't know why people are expecting so different design. Not always different is good.
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I hope it doesn't lose ground. I know this isn't a popular device amongst the 2015 flagships. Definitely doesn't beat m8 in terms of popularity either. Their main focus is their next phone but hope htc continues to give us timely updates and support for this device. My only concern.
It's sad that my dad even knows this company is struggling and he doesn't know anything about smartphones.
I'm hoping HTC doesn't die either, pretty much the only phone on the market I like due to the sense overlay, don't like Samsung's touchwiz and as for the rest, LG, Sony etc, well you may as well just get a Nexus, and Sony are rubbish for updates in my experience, Cant stand I don't know phones.
M9 is currently available on Virgin Mobile for half the price it was 4 months ago, sorry all those who grabbed it as soon as it came out on a 2 year contract and are paying double :crying: current price is not a good sign, still may grab one however when my contract comes up for renewal in November, maybe it will be a bit cheaper.
HTC are upsetting a lot of people at the moment with them promising updates and then not bothering, M8 just lost its August update, we now have to wait till android M release, and I can really see by the time its ready, they will use the excuse that the device is over 2 years old so no update, so still no Sense 7 unless you go custom rom, if XDA developers can do it, why cant HTC ?
HTC Mini 2 aka M8 mini, only got a year of updates, didn't even get Lollipop, not a very happy Mrs. promised by HTC then cancelled.
M7 updates got the 2 year excuse and left with a buggy Lollipop, which were fixed by Google 4 weeks later in 5.1.
I miss the HTC that made good phones like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfSxWNOG8DQ That video gives me a nostalgia overload.
Looks like htc is digging a bigger hole for the m9 with the a9 being announced in September.
The support for this device is going to downtrend fast.
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Looks like htc is digging a bigger hole for the m9 with the a9 being announced in September.
The support for this device is going to downtrend fast.
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If they do a good job with the initial release that doesn't needs to be true; It will include the latest android version, so no need to worry about system updates probably until android M, it will include the stagefright patches, so no need to worry about that either. If it includes a good camera and gets rid of Snapdragon 810, there won't be a need of constant firmware updates and even if it includes the 810, they've improved it so much so far, so there would be no need to firmware updates, cause they passed for that with the M9 already.
Again that's assuming they're going to announce sometihng at IFA, which is yet uncertain.
Simply put...nowadays phone manufacturers don't need to build the best phone to sell the "best" phone, they just have to make it the most popular phone. People outside of XDA don't buy a phone because it has killer features, or superior build quality, or the best camera; they buy a phone because the marketing department said it was the best phone on the market, plain and simple. If HTC wants to catch up, all they need to do is change the look of the M10 and focus on marketing it heavily. HTC has been building top tier smartphones for some time now and they have lost the market game to Samsung and Apple every year.
And also, don't think for a minute that other manufacturers will not pay for negative press on competing phones. They know that public perception is what drives public reception. I am quite certain that Samsung "influenced" atleast a few of the bad review that the M9 received. I am the proud owner of an M9 and although it hasn't been the best phone that I have ever owned, it is FAR from as bad as some of the reviews made it out to be; but if you read the reviews and base your phone decision off of them, you would think the M9 was a piece of junk to be avoided.
All HTC needs to do is figure out some hip gimmicks and marketing (not for us, but for the public), and they will be just fine.
Htc is for people who don't want to go with the sheep of the phone world, plus once you've had a decent high end htc device you'll always be looking back if you switch to let's say a Samsung or an apple device. They're always really close to getting it perfect, this time round it's obviously the camera which is still good but you need to tweak it a bit, personally I'd always chose htc, they're great phones, especially since the m7.
In terms of overall sales, no they're not doing as well as Samsung and apple, bare in mind though that Apple and samsung sell lots of other devices besides phones, htc do not. A fresh approach needs to happen in terms of marketing, and a thoroughly tested flagship with every angle covered, plus I don't think it's necessary for them to release several phones per year. A flag ship and a budget phone would suffice, allowing them to optimise the devices properly. Having an E an E+ an m9 and an m9+ with desires popping up all over the place for me is far too much.
Time will tell, but I don't think they're down and out.
This is my sixth HTC phone and still happy with it. Sad though they can't keep up with the telecom market nowadays.. I would say HTC ain't dead, but it had its better days. Hopefully they strike back with a stunning 2016 flagship. They really deserve a better position or either everybody's attention like last year with the m8 in my opinion
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There's an awful lot of talk floating around various tech sites about htc and its bleak future. I'm hearing they won't even forecast the financial statistics anymore. I'm not sure I buy into all of this but it does have me rethinking my loyalty to them and if I should return my newly purchased m9. Part of me has no idea why if they are in soo much trouble they would release the a9 and promise nexus like fast updates. I hope this won't affect the m9 getting Android 6.0. That's my biggest concern.
What do you guys think?
I think HTC might make it another year before they're on the cliff of either collapsing or being bought out by Asus, Google, etc.
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I think HTC might make it another year before they're on the cliff of either collapsing or being bought out by Asus, Google, etc.
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If true it still brings in question keeping or continuing to buy their products. I highly doubt Google will buy them. Lg, Asus maybe.
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There's an awful lot of talk floating around various tech sites about htc and its bleak future. I'm hearing they won't even forecast the financial statistics anymore. I'm not sure I buy into all of this but it does have me rethinking my loyalty to them and if I should return my newly purchased m9. Part of me has no idea why if they are in soo much trouble they would release the a9 and promise nexus like fast updates. I hope this won't affect the m9 getting Android 6.0. That's my biggest concern.
What do you guys think?
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no worries the M9 is getting MM and the M10 is coming, whatever happens to HTC it wont happen before end of next year
the M9 is fine and the A9 is good sign of the improvements the M9 will get on MM, such as the RAW editor in the gallery
I'm really looking forward to see my M9 with 6.0.
If it will be like on the A9 (more "google" and less "sense") i think that after 3 years i'll have to say goodbye to htc...
HTC has a turnover of $1.3 billion and a net profit of $11 million in Q1 of 2015,doesn't sound like a company on the verge of folding ?...don't believe everything you hear in the media !!
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I'm really looking forward to see my M9 with 6.0.
If it will be like on the A9 (more "google" and less "sense") i think that after 3 years i'll have to say goodbye to htc...
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no we already have screenshot leaks from Football and confirmation from HTC, the M8 and M9 will retain full Sense, they confirmed the A9 gallery / camera app features to be coming to other flagships though
With the camera kinks worked out, it's reasonable to anticipate AOSP ROMs being developed for the M9. If those take off, we shouldn't have any issue with the M9 becoming abandonware.
For those of us who are not developers, we can support them through patience, encouragement and financial support.
Nah HTC will be around for years to come, just look at blackberry for crying out loud they haven't had a good phone in years, even nokia took over a decade to die out and even now they're still making niche phones, HTC will continue i have no doubt.
Think about the competition, Apple and Samsung, they're mega giants, apple because they make dumb phones for dumb people and samsung because they make everything for everyone.
There's no comparison between the companies but to say that they're down and out is an overstatement.
I love this phone but am very aware and ocd about how a phone works and I do have the scrolling problem. If it's an issue that's with all phones, not just ones "who can see it"...but if it's all phones, I may just try to get adjusted to it. If it can or will be corrected, I want to send the phone back in the 15 day period.
Anyone have any idea if this will just continue with this phone or will be corrected? Or if sending back and re-buying, I have a chance of getting one where it doesn't happen?
This is gambling i think. You can get one which is not affected, but also you can get one which is more affected, than yours now. I'll also send back the phone for replacement if it's not fixed in my 15 day period. I love this phone, really.... Everything is awesome, but this jelly thing :/
EDIT: Manufacture date: 12th June, panel is s6e3fa5
Will they "replace" it? They say it's normal....not a defect.
I asked support for a replacement two days ago and they told me the only thing they can do is refunding. I guess adjusting to it won't be that hard after all.
All phones are affected returning won't do you any good. There won't be any update to fix the issue, its a design choice.
You have 2 choices:
Refund
Keep the device and live with the jelly
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All phones are affected returning won't do you any good. There won't be any update to fix the issue, its a design choice.
You have 2 choices:
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Keep the device and live with the jelly
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Even if you underline words, they aren't always true. I saw a couple of videos, someone's phone is falling apart by this effect, but i've seen videos where the user's display has zero jelly effect. So no, not everybody has it.
True. I don't have it AT ALL, and there is nothing wrong with my eyes. I have seen for myself devices that suffer from it. Mine doesn't
Well... unlike you I happen to have some evidence to support my underlined claims.
https://www.xda-developers.com/conf...ay-upside-down-likely-reason-jelly-scrolling/
+1 I don't have it. My was produced on 9th of June. 8/128 #nojello
It depends, someone has a strong jello effect, someone has none/little to none. Mine has but it's almost nothing. And 1+ can't fix this, since this is their design choice. How do you people find the manufacture dates of your phones?
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nvm, found it. It's on the sticker at the back of the box. Mine is 2017.06.07, 6GB/64GB
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It depends, someone has a strong jello effect, someone has none/little to none. Mine has but it's almost nothing. And 1+ can't fix this, since this is their design choice. How do you people find the manufacture dates of your phones?
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This reminds me of the iPhone "antennagate", where many reported bad reception due to manufacturers defects. I had that iPhone and mine was fine. Turned out to be isolated, not overall problem.
I don't have the OP5, but am considering it, so interested in discussion.
IF I did own it, don't know if I would return it.
The way OP is handling it is poor. They could learn from Steve Jobs. He was a master at dealing with this type of situation.
BTW, I own a Le Eco Pro 3 phone. Another Chinese company crashing and withdrawing from US, despite well priced, great hardware phones.
This is a complex, tough business.
I've tried everything to reproduce this effect, to no avail. Unfortunately, my phone is perfect to my eyes. Well, I do notice the slight stutter when I scroll very fast. I can more than live with that for the specs I'm getting. Honestly, I don't even care.
I feel badly for the people affected by this issue. Such a great phone and it's really a shame that they can't enjoy it like most of us.
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This reminds me of the iPhone "antennagate", where many reported bad reception due to manufacturers defects. I had that iPhone and mine was fine. Turned out to be isolated, not overall problem.
I don't have the OP5, but am considering it, so interested in discussion.
IF I did own it, don't know if I would return it.
The way OP is handling it is poor. They could learn from Steve Jobs. He was a master at dealing with this type of situation.
BTW, I own a Le Eco Pro 3 phone. Another Chinese company crashing and withdrawing from US, despite well priced, great hardware phones.
This is a complex, tough business.
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No business is tough if know when to scale the business up and how.
Oneplus, I think, got too greedy and scaled up too quickly while their QA and After-sales departments couldn't keep up with the pace.
Oneplus is acting like Apple/Samsung with their price raises and all but not following it with the QA/After-sales of those companies. They simply can't. They just aren't there yet.
If this phone would be priced, say, $75 less than what it is, I would happily live with it despite some QA issues like the minor, barely noticeable, jelly effect that I have. I would even stand in queue and wait for an invite according to the invitation system they had in place during their early years.
At $540, I'm sorry, I would 'Never Settle'. I'm more demanding at that price. LG G6 is available for cheaper and that too is a very good phone.
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No business is tough if know when to scale the business up and how.
Oneplus, I think, got too greedy and scaled up too quickly while their QA and After-sales departments couldn't keep up with the pace.
Oneplus is acting like Apple/Samsung with their price raises and all but not following it with the QA/After-sales of those companies. They simply can't. They just aren't there yet.
If this phone would be priced, say, $75 less than what it is, I would happily live with it despite some QA issues like the minor, barely noticeable, jelly effect that I have. I would even stand in queue and wait for an invite according to the invitation system they had in place during their early years.
At $540, I'm sorry, I would 'Never Settle'. I'm more demanding at that price. LG G6 is available for cheaper and that too is a very good phone.
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Agree, bought my LeEco Pro 3 for $249, following your logic.
Look, US market is so lucrative, Chinese MFG see it as gold. But, its one thing to produce a good phone, very different ongoing development and service.
Le Eco was similar with big slogans, but couldn’t even sustain for 6 months in US.
Still great market for $399 phone, but can they make a profit so development investments can continue?
Interesting to see what happens.
I have a little jelly effect.
its noticeable when i see minutely.
Will this kind of issue be increased by regular usage or it will be like that...forever unless oneplus provide some update.
If it stays that way... then i am fine as its barely noticeable but it improvise over time then its a big issue.
My phone manufacturing date is 16 Jun 2017
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Agree, bought my LeEco Pro 3 for $249, following your logic.
Look, US market is so lucrative, Chinese MFG see it as gold. But, its one thing to produce a good phone, very different ongoing development and service.
Le Eco was similar with big slogans, but couldn’t even sustain for 6 months in US.
Still great market for $399 phone, but can they make a profit so development investments can continue?
Interesting to see what happens.
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The kinda business model Oneplus has, they don't even need much R&D. The dev community does it all for them without any cost.
They give pretty much stock android. So not much R&D there.
Camera module is also bought from others so they can as well buy the processing algorithms.
Rest all components like GPS, NFC, Display etc. are bought out-of-the-house and Oneplus simply assembles them.
With this kinda business model you can't really go wrong if you just sort out your business funding, QA, and after-sales.
That's all you need and you'll get the sales to compensate for the lower price.
They seem to be deviating from their business model by the price raises and the QA/After-sales issues. Oneplus 5 suffers from the consequences of that deviation from the business model.
No jelly effect here. I got mine before they went on sale so I guess I'll say a got Lucky! Was considering leaving this phone before for the U11 but I can't stand HTC software. So I'll keep this rare "non-effective" device .
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No issue here. I got lucky. Really I have zero issues with this phone.
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No issue here. I got lucky. Really I have zero issues with this phone.
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qasq said:
+1 I don't have it. My was produced on 9th of June. 8/128 #nojello
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You, NoJello heroes keeping the hope in us. I really hope that my replacement won't have this issue. :good:
So I returned the 64GB XL that I originally ordered due to me not adding the preferred care and seeing all the quality control and screen issues. I reordered a 128 GB device with preferred care and cancelled. All the bad press, all the threads and posts about quality control issues, this being a "travesty" and other comments. I cancelled and reordered 5 times and I finally followed through with the purchase. But only on one condition. I wasn't going to look at articles, forums, videos or any sort of press regarding the device at all for a week. I had read about all the issues and was still weary about it when I received the device on the 26th. I set it up and the first thing I did was look for this blue tint. I have a VERY slight tint at extreme angles that I do not view of device from but it did not bother me a bit and did not interfere with my experience. So what did I do next? I used my phone as my daily driver and in the same manner that I did my $8+. Since the 26th, I have had no issues, and I can honestly say that I could not be more thrilled with this device. It is exactly what I was looking for. My first vanilla Android experience and it is amazing. So with that being said, let's get to the question. Has anyone else avoided the negative press and forums to get their own experience? Has anyone else come to the and conclusion that I have? I can't say that the phone is perfect. I can't say that every device is made equal. But I can say that if you are on the fence with your purchase, just buy it. Experience the device for yourself, form your own opinion. Keep in mind what you have learned from other's experiences, but really form your own opinion with your own experience and come share with us. If you don't like it, just return it. Thanks for the read everyone! If you like your device great! If it wasn't for you, I hope you find the device you're looking for. Have a great one everybody!
I ordered on day one and my phone was very blue at even a slight angle. I returned it and ordered another and I am very happy with it. the processor is a beast. battery and camera are the best there is. Software and features are way ahead of others and will stay there. You need to try it. Don't read or buy into the negative hype. Try it. If you don't like it returning the device is easy and costs nothing.
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I didn't let it get me down. I pre-ordered on the 6th, got it the 28th, never returned it, and never cared about the press.
I don't care about random people's opinions, and I have no idea why everyone does. I figured once I got it, i would see if I like it, if not, I would return it and move on.
The media is and always will be full of ****, the same with the vast majority of people sadly. I still hear people run in their mouth about this device in telegram chats and online that never have nor will hold an xl2, at that rate, why would anyone take anything they say at face value? It's sad that people fall to peer pressure, and can't be big enough to make a decision for themselves, they have to follow the norm.
Anyways, my device like most others shifts colors at an angle, and it doesn't bother me. I always have and will use black themes while I'm on an oled device. You can't get this rich of black color which makes everything else pop on lcd.
Coming from a 6p, this phone is light years faster than it was, and the battery life I've had on stock with the stock kernel, has put all other devices I've had to shame. I couldn't be happier with the xl2
This phone ticked all the boxes I want/need and after the trade in plus the rebate from T-mobile I'd be stupid not to jump on it. While waiting all the complaints about the screen came in so I was curious to see what it would look like when I got it. Opened the box and turned the screen on, tilted it and said...."that's it???". I've been loving it since day one. Best phone I've ever had.
If anything the negative press had lowered my expectations some, so when I finally got my phone I was absolutely blown away by how great it is. I couldn't say if I had not read anything bad about the phone, whether or not my response would have been the same, but all I can say is that this is the best phone I have ever used (going from Nexus 5, to 6, to 6P, to 2XL)
I find it humorous that in advance of the iPhone X, Apple puts out a paper saying that burn-in and blue tint upon tilting device are normal for oled screens, and not a defect. I wonder if all the media sources that blasted the Pixel 2 XL for being a "mediocre" device because of those screen issues will be as hard on Apple as they were on Google?
I've read the articles and kept up with stuff, but I really just don't give a sh__, to be frank. Is there a blue tint at angle? Yup. Does it bother me? Nope. Is there screen burn in/retention? Don't know. (I have not seen anything and don't care about trying it out to see.) This phone is so freaking phenomenal, I can't believe that people steer clear over some bad press given by a bunch of YouTube reviewers that nit-pick everything with every phone ever made.
To prove my point on how little the everyday user cares, I showed 2 buddies of mine my 2 XL the other night. They both just recently got the iPhone 8+ and they've had Apple devices going back to the iPhone 6. Both of them played with my 2 XL for at least 15 minutes. Neither of them mentioned anything about the screen other than they said they loved the lack of huge bezels. Both commented on how blazingly fast it performed. They also loved how it listened for music and displayed what was playing automatically.
I'm happy with my 2 XL. If by some chance Google does some sort of recall, etc. I may go ahead and do that, but as of yet, I see no reason to RMA my phone.
Dang, OP. Nailed my experience, but in a different manner: Ordered during the event and got mine on the 20th. Also came from an S8+.
Have since stopped reading comments on popular Android tech sites due to the sheer vileness of them. Maybe it was present before and I just never noticed, but the comments sections are a total sh_tshow. I am embarrassed to be a part of a community that can treat each other so poorly.
I imagine someone new to the community going on to these sites and just being absolutely stunned by how petty and rude we must seem.
It's not just Pixel articles either; Samsung, HTC, LG.... It's unavoidable.
I like my S8+ and my 2 XL. I liked my V20. My son loves his V30 (and before that, his HTC 10). Why can't we seem to accept that they're all great devices? Why do we have to be so vile to each other?
Sorry... That went longer than I had planned...
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It's hands-on for me! Media suxes!!
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So I returned the 64GB XL that I originally ordered due to me not adding the preferred care and seeing all the quality control and screen issues. I reordered a 128 GB device with preferred care and cancelled. All the bad press, all the threads and posts about quality control issues, this being a "travesty" and other comments. I cancelled and reordered 5 times and I finally followed through with the purchase. But only on one condition. I wasn't going to look at articles, forums, videos or any sort of press regarding the device at all for a week. I had read about all the issues and was still weary about it when I received the device on the 26th. I set it up and the first thing I did was look for this blue tint. I have a VERY slight tint at extreme angles that I do not view of device from but it did not bother me a bit and did not interfere with my experience. So what did I do next? I used my phone as my daily driver and in the same manner that I did my $8+. Since the 26th, I have had no issues, and I can honestly say that I could not be more thrilled with this device. It is exactly what I was looking for. My first vanilla Android experience and it is amazing. So with that being said, let's get to the question. Has anyone else avoided the negative press and forums to get their own experience? Has anyone else come to the and conclusion that I have? I can't say that the phone is perfect. I can't say that every device is made equal. But I can say that if you are on the fence with your purchase, just buy it. Experience the device for yourself, form your own opinion. Keep in mind what you have learned from other's experiences, but really form your own opinion with your own experience and come share with us. If you don't like it, just return it. Thanks for the read everyone! If you like your device great! If it wasn't for you, I hope you find the device you're looking for. Have a great one everybody!
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I preordered it and kept it.
Ive had a Galaxy Nexus Nexus 5 Nexus 6p and now the Pixel XL 2 I can tell you... You will never get a "perfect" phone from Google you just wont. But you dont get this phone because its perfect. You get it because you dont have to wait for updates from the carrier that will never come. You dont have to worry about the bootloader being locked. And you can pretty much count on the most developer support.
Everyone of the phones listed above had an "issue" blown way out of proportion.
Galaxy Nexus was battery life even leading to Verizon offering a extended battery
Nexus 5 had a screen issue where anything after the 1st batch had a yellow tint to the display. (I was lucky to get one of the good ones but then 3 months later my phone decided to not DL or send MMS at all no matter what i did. I had to RMA it and got a yellow tint phone. Oh and battery life issues.
Nexus 6p had screen issues and battery issues where the phone would shut down once the battery reached anywhere from 15% to 50% Oh there was also a software bug on only this phone where the phone would refuse to switch to LTE and the only way to make it do this was to go into the secret *#*4636*#*# and toggle the LTE radio. This was not fixed for 2 security updates
See you will never get a "perfect phone" from Google. Just like a lot of their products start out pretty ****ty and get better through several updates.
Well, I most definitely want to thank you guys for your feedback and being honest without the hostility. It's good to see that I am not alone in my experience. Thanks for replying with tact. We can only lead our fellow enthusiast by example. Thanks again for your responses.
I've had a horrible experience through all of this, I'm also a new member here, although I've been a lurker for years. BUT I pre-ordered, kept the order and received a P2XL that is blue straight on and gets worse at any angle. I RMA'd my device, new one will be here this friday/saturday. Thing is after a week I really love this phone and willing to try at least one more as it seems there is or was a quality issue but most here that have RMA'd are reporting they've gotten a better device back. I agree what another member posted about the rhetoric and the way people are treating each other but that's the interwebs these days. Also seems a bunch of people here received great devices to begin with (ANOTHER REASON TO ORDER ONE AND TRY IT YOURSELF) but unfortunately some of them just assume everyone's device is the exact same as theirs and some of them even deny there could be an issue saying "we see these things differently" and we should "just shut up or get a refund". Don't listen to them, don't really take much weight in what anyone says (including me) about their personal experience until you've had the exact same experience with the same device to relate to their issues posted. We're here to share our experiences with these devices with each other but for every 1 P2XL user here there are probably at least 4 or 5 if not more that are ecstatic to own these phones from Google. Remember most people who have issues go onto forums and websites to see if others are experiencing the same issues. So it becomes a breeding ground for every issue ever found on "x" device within "x" days of being released. Like what's been said here before, it's not just here, all manufacturers have issues with their devices and for me IMO the P2XL is what I want/need in a phone. Hopefully you'll order one up and give it a shot, you're truly missing out on an amazing experience with an amazing device.
You know things are desperate when people have to make "feel good" threads.
As for the validity of media or what else has been said here, this entire thread is pure conjecture and speculation made against others who disagree.
Im also not sure who this is directed at. The people who dont like/want this phone wont be here.
Neither will the people who returned them.
As for the point of the thread.
If you buy a device that costs a grand, might aswell demand no ISSUES.
Neither apples pathetic response to possible issues with the screen nor Google's "we are looking into it" imply a whole lot respect for the consumer or confindence for their devices.
You can like your device, you can claim its perfect, beautiful, whatever. But for this price, nothing short of perfection(as much as it can be achieved) should be demanded.
If im paying a grand, i dont want to be bothered by RMAs or other BS.
If they have QC issues, they are free to perhaps ship some jobs back to Europe/America. Im sure they have enough money to pay decent wages for people to QC their devices or produce them here.
If not, they should not expect mercy from the consumer or press, and yes this includes apple too
What a pathetic age we live in.
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If you buy a device that costs a grand, might aswell demand no ISSUES.
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You do know you're paying for more than hardware right? You don't really think you're getting a minimum of 3 years OS updates, a minimum of 3 years of monthly security updates, support help right on the device, and all that unlimited storage for nothing do ya.
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If you buy a device that costs a grand, might aswell demand no ISSUES.
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Why not demand pink unicorns as well, since we're apparently asking for the impossible?
No device is without "issues". Not a one.
If you won't pay a grand for any non-perfect device, and no such device exists, you are basically claiming no device is worth a grand.
Welp...okay. it's a perfectly valid opinion. Thanks for sharing.
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Why not demand pink unicorns as well, since we're apparently asking for the impossible?
No device is without "issues". Not a one.
If you won't pay a grand for any non-perfect device, and no such device exists, you are basically claiming no device is worth a grand.
Welp...okay. it's a perfectly valid opinion. Thanks for sharing.
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Do you believe any of the current issues would be present, if they had QC that actually was managed properly?
It cant be because of technology that the device costs this much, about a grand, in 2017.
Surely they can afford proper QC at an asking price of 1 grand.
Im not sure proper QC is like pink unicorns, but i guess people should just shut up.
A proper premium tier QC is pink unicorns. Im having the timw of my life now.
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You do know you're paying for more than hardware right? You don't really think you're getting a minimum of 3 years OS updates, a minimum of 3 years of monthly security updates, support help right on the device, and all that unlimited storage for nothing do ya.
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Thats true, i wish only they provided a black skin/overlay for android.
Its 2017 and only custom roms offer amoled friendly UI.
Im not sureni value android updates when they offer no enhancements i need.
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Do you believe any of the current issues would be present, if they had QC that actually was managed properly?
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QC doesn't stop issues from reaching the public. It limits them.
A certain number of bad devices will invariably get out in the market. This is unavoidable.
If you are trying to claim that it is avoidable, that any company could release a device and the public would not see a single failure, please - do tell; what fantastical device is it?
If you are trying to claim that *all* Pixel 2 XL devices are bad, well, you're entitled to your opinion, but if that is indeed the case, your opinion is not at all relevant to us.
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QC doesn't stop issues from reaching the public. It limits them.
A certain number of bad devices will invariably get out in the market. This is unavoidable.
If you are trying to claim that it is avoidable, that any company could release a device and the public would not see a single failure, please - do tell; what fantastical device is it?
If you are trying to claim that *all* Pixel 2 XL devices are bad, well, you're entitled to your opinion, but if that is indeed the case, your opinion is not at all relevant to us.
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Pray tell, do you really believe issues such as blue tint or burn in wouldnt be caught by proper QC?
These issues are so obvious, even non-tech savy people can notice them.
And no, i didnt claim qc prevents all bad apples, but thw moat obvious ones. Way to strawman my point there.
All google needed to do, when noticing issues in QC , is hold off on the release date.
You can probably imagine how much i enjoyed last years fiasco with exploding batteries with samsung.
If anything, that was the epitome and parody of the flagship smartphone industry.
Imagine buying a porsche and getting one that had paint issues or an expensive mercedes with discolored glass.
If i wanted to gamble and try my luck, i would get an Oppo, not a pixel or samsung.
I agree with both you guys lol. IMO the issue is when testing Google from day 1 just looked past the blue tint and other issues thinking "This is the way it has to be" "it's a trade off" and software updates will fix it or it's just supposed to be like that. Hence the quality issues, if you tell your QC dept that it's supposed to look like that then they'll unfortunately let them all leave the factory like that. Probably why there's 50 shades of blue and no direct reasoning or answer from anyone as to why there's such a variance between the exact same devices produced on the same date even. BTW shadowcore is onto something I've been previously saying, yea there's shortcomings with any new device but it shouldn't be this bad all over the map with these things for the price they charge. And then attempted sweeping under the rug of it all, "working as intended" just to rub ya the wrong way after all that money spent whether you got 5 discounts or paid full retail. PRINCIPLE. This is top tier device I know it's been done before here but would you buy a brand new BMW/AUDI/LEXUS/MERCEDES and be just fine with creaking plastic crappy interior you sit in every time you drive? We need to interact with this screen every day all day for some people.
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Is their QC sub-par? Do they actually have more defective units than other vendors?
Is there anything other than the initial media coverage, now little more than background noise, that implies Google's devices see more defects in the market than others?
Or, as you just admitted in the last post, are you just super happy about any and all failures and maybe that is what is driving your fervor?
I mean, even if that's what it is, I get it. These companies make billions - watching them trip and fall, even if it's only in our perception, can be somewhat cathartic - is it really any more than that, though?