I am using Viper on my nexus 4 and planning to buy Fiio E6. Will it make difference ? I mean I am already getting much more improved sound quality (and loudness too) using viper. I never had used Amp so I am not quite sure the difference I will be getting. I use Philips SHL3300 Headphone. Plz Help!!
abhi8569 said:
I am using Viper on my nexus 4 and planning to buy Fiio E6. Will it make difference ? I mean I am already getting much more improved sound quality (and loudness too) using viper. I never had used Amp so I am not quite sure the difference I will be getting. I use Philips SHL3300 Headphone. Plz Help!!
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i did a small research about amps BUT i have no amp to speak of. as far as my research goes, what i understand is that if you have headphones with high impudence (mostly expensive headphone in that department) or a headphone that is underpowered it will make a difference. with regular headphones i don't think you will see any noticeable difference except maybe bass and higher sound output. i would suggest to go to headfi forums and ask oyur question there. they will know. if i remember correctly there is a thread about your headphones, i read a review there when i was in the market for headphones.
P.S. there is a nice review on the fiio e6 and what can do and what you can except on headfi. the best forum for audiophile.
Just got the Hi Fi DAC and at ridiculously low price of £50/$66 to boot!
Sounds awesome and the module itself is using the flagship ES9028 SABRE DAC and 9602 Headphone Amp: http://www.esstech.com/index.php/en/news/newsroom/ess-technology-comes-out-play-lg-g5
even the upcoming V20 is supposed to have the next level DAC down (ES9018)? correct me if i am wrong!
The sound is MUCH louder than the built in sound via headphone and the sound stage is brighter and more balanced, even on standard resolution tracks with spotify (i have a free year sub on Microsoft Groove and it sounds great on there too).
love the fact that it can operate as an external DAC and quite literally has saved me so much money. I was going to purchase a 32bit/192 Hi Fi grade DAC from Cambridge Audio to Drive my Cambridge Audio Amp and speaker setup at home. HiFi Stero grade DACS tend to use a Sabre or Wolfson DAC. I've saved myself over £500!!
This sounds amazing when hooked onto a laptop.
Was at a party and people were connecting their phones (mostly iPhones) to an external speaker via the headphone jack. this module was MUCH louder than all the rest and drove the speakers better with clearer sound quality.
Only negatives i have found so far are that the module can sometimes be shaky which causes it turn off and resync on the odd occasion. It runs quite warm when used and it does drain battery noticeably more than if i just used the on board sound. I always carry a fully charged spare battery anyway so not that fussed.
Thought id just share my thoughts so far and open a thread where other users can comment on their experiences.
mikey_sk said:
Just got the Hi Fi DAC and at ridiculously low price of £50/$66 to boot!
Sounds awesome and the module itself is using the flagship ES9028 SABRE DAC and 9602 Headphone Amp: http://www.esstech.com/index.php/en/news/newsroom/ess-technology-comes-out-play-lg-g5
even the upcoming V20 is supposed to have the next level DAC down (ES9018)? correct me if i am wrong!
The sound is MUCH louder than the built in sound via headphone and the sound stage is brighter and more balanced, even on standard resolution tracks with spotify (i have a free year sub on Microsoft Groove and it sounds great on there too).
love the fact that it can operate as an external DAC and quite literally has saved me so much money. I was going to purchase a 32bit/192 Hi Fi grade DAC from Cambridge Audio to Drive my Cambridge Audio Amp and speaker setup at home. HiFi Stero grade DACS tend to use a Sabre or Wolfson DAC. I've saved myself over £500!!
This sounds amazing when hooked onto a laptop.
Was at a party and people were connecting their phones (mostly iPhones) to an external speaker via the headphone jack. this module was MUCH louder than all the rest and drove the speakers better with clearer sound quality.
Only negatives i have found so far are that the module can sometimes be shaky which causes it turn off and resync on the odd occasion. It runs quite warm when used and it does drain battery noticeably more than if i just used the on board sound. I always carry a fully charged spare battery anyway so not that fussed.
Thought id just share my thoughts so far and open a thread where other users can comment on their experiences.
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Sounds awesome. Where did you buy this ?
Jonathan-H said:
Sounds awesome. Where did you buy this ?
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https://www.onedigitals.co.uk/lg-afd-1200-hi-fi-plus-with-b-o-play-black.html
including shipping £50
only works with European H850 only not the usa LG G5 or Asian variants
Just watching the htc u11 coverage and the noise cancelling type c headphones. Would it increase the experience on devices like the axon 7 when we've still got a headphone jack ?
front firing speakers said:
Just watching the htc u11 coverage and the noise cancelling type c headphones. Would it increase the experience on devices like the axon 7 when we've still got a headphone jack ?
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shouldn't it be the same? I don't think there would be a difference besides the noise cancelling. Maybe those headphones get the power for that stuff from the USB but some noise cancelling 3.5mm with battery should be the same...?
Otherwise the only way I can think of to test if they're better or worse is by modding them so that the noise cancel is off, and test with USB-C then put them a 3.5 jack and test them too.
But you won't be able to charge, for what it's worth
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I probably am anyways
The audio wouldn't use the device's amp and dac and so the audio could be better on phones with really bad dacs and amps but on phones like the Axon 7 and LG v20 then the audio would most likely be worse.
You get an audio that is the same and more objective across devices because the headphones uses its own dac and amp, so the headphones can be better tuned by the manufacturer because your player no longer matter. Also, the power supply from type-c enables active noise cancelling without battery such as JBL reflect aware c, HTC usonic of U11, Xiaomi active noise cancelling earphones.
However, senny is probably correct as usb-c earphones may not use high end dac and amp.
Dac's are only connected to 3,5mm jack, stereo speakers and probably to microphone (to be confirmed) so there will be no Dolby features with type c headphones.
There one advantage - if you have active noice cancelation they can be powered via USB type c the same time you keep using it.
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Dac's are only connected to 3,5mm jack, stereo speakers and probably to microphone (to be confirmed) so there will be no Dolby features with type c headphones.
There one advantage - if you have active noice cancelation they can be powered via USB type c the same time you keep using it.
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Dolby seems to work with BT speakers (tested this myself), so it might affect usb-c headphone. Mins toy it's just the equalizer that worked not the HiFi mode
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Dolby seems to work with BT speakers (tested this myself), so it might affect usb-c headphone. Mins toy it's just the equalizer that worked not the HiFi mode
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Hmm it works like equalizer or like much clearer, better audio ?
MrMD69 said:
Hmm it works like equalizer or like much clearer, better audio ?
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Equalizer
With the excellent DAC/AMP and audio capabilities of the Axon 7, I don't really see the benefit of USB-C headphone. And as I'm nor sure if the USB-C headphones would bypass the built in DAC/AMP it may be worse, I don't know. Either way I don't really see an advantage. Of course you loose the ability to listen to music while charging.
If Audeze comes out with a USB-C version of their Cipher cable that has a built in DAC/AMP tuned for their specific headphones (EL-8, Sine, iSine), then that might actually be worth getting. But as of yet the Cipher cables is Apple Lightning port only and their headphone are expensive audiophile grade headphones.
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their headphone are expensive audiophile grade headphones.
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And THIS will be the problem with type C headphones... Any that are cheap won't have good audio, you're gonna have to spend a small fortune on headphones that sound like the ones that are supplied free with the phone now...
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And THIS will be the problem with type C headphones... Any that are cheap won't have good audio... you're gonna have to spend a small fortune on headphones that sound like the ones that are supplied free with the phone now...
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That's not a problem with USB-C headphones, it the nature of cheap headphones.
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you're gonna have to spend a small fortune on headphones that sound like the ones that are supplied free with the phone now...
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Why? Usually the headphones that are included for free now aren't very good sounding.Who going to pay a fortune for headphones that sound as bad as the standard offerings?
If USB-C becomes they way things go for headphone audio, which remains to be seen, you'll have a range of choices of various price point. Only those that want truely steller audio will spend a "fortune", just as it is now.
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The audio wouldn't use the device's amp and dac and so the audio could be better on phones with really bad dacs and amps but on phones like the Axon 7 and LG v20 then the audio would most likely be worse.
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That's not a problem with USB-C headphones, it the nature of cheap headphones.
Why? Usually the headphones that are included for free now aren't very good sounding.Who going to pay a fortune for headphones that sound as bad as the standard offerings?
If USB-C becomes they way things go for headphone audio, which remains to be seen, you'll have a range of choices of various price point. Only those that want truely steller audio will spend a "fortune", just as it is now.
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I think ultramag means we need to pay a fortune to get a headphone with dac and amp as good as the ones inside our phones.
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I think ultramag means we need to pay a fortune to get a headphone with dac and amp as good as the ones inside our phones.
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Eh, I don't know. If you refering to a high quality DAC/AMP like whats in the Axon 7 maybe not cheap but not a fortune either. But most phones have a mediocre audio out put in comparison. I sometimes use headphones with an $15 external Mpow Bluetooth receiver that delivers more power then my other phones (Nexus 6P & LG G5). There's always the USB-C to 3.5mm adapter that the few phones that don't offer a headphone jack come with. Of course lets not forget most devices still bring a headphone jack, and hopefully it will stay that way for a while.
At any rate as far as the original question posed in this thread, a USB-C headphones will not really being anything to the table as far as the Axon 7 is concerned as it has one of the top headphone jacks currently available.
Until someone offers a very high quality USB-C pair of headphones that can outperform the A7's built in solution it's not needed. Even if and when something like that becomes available it only for you average user, but those who really really care about their audio and are willing to pay for every last bit of it.
I just don't see it costing a fortune, unless you want REALLY REALYY good audio, pretty much as is the case today.
Guys I need your valuable opinion about the audio dac on this for NORMAL earphones like RHA s500. does it feel lot different as of compared to other phones on normal earphones or do we need High impedance headphone ?
Am in dilemma of purchase decision
Am a music lover
Getting fed better audio should benefit most decent headphones. Of course the higher quality headphones will see the most benefit and take full advantage of the V20's audio capabilities. You don't need high impedance to take advantage of the quad DACs capabilities. It just delivers more "juice" to higher impedance headphones that require more power to drive. Some specific lower impedance headphones may do better if you could manually turn on the high output mode, my Audeze iSine 10s for example, but in general it will be fine for most earphone out there.
Just tested my Axon 7 (also a with a high quality DAC/AMP on board) vs My LG G5 (standard built in audio) with some cheap but pretty good sounding earphone ($10 to $15 KZ ZST ). I can sounds cleaner and voices are a little "sweeter". It more noticeable with my more expensive gear.
If you're into audio the V20 or Axon 7 are the phones to get, but there should be other reason to select a phone as well. Unless you really really desire superior audio, I wouldn't make my buying decision based solely on that.
I can hear a difference. It clearer sounding and vocals are a bit sweater. If you not big into audio it may be a bit subtle, at least at first.
I will be receiving my LG G6 asia version next week. In order to take advantage of the Quad DAC, may I know earphones or head phones I should get ??
I had similar problem. I've started \ found those threads. Maybe it will help you.
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/i...-with-quad-dac-hd-870ds.855193/#post-13623866
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/accessories/best-earphone-to-utilize-quad-dac-t3633699
Just forget all that DAC nonsense. Its still not clear if the High Impedance mode just makes the phone louder or triggers all DAC Channels. And its not sure how the DAC works. But one thing, i dislike the Quad DAC, it doesn't sound atmospheric and nice to me. Its very analytic and boring for normal people. If you plug in Earphones with "normal" bass, you will be dissapointed completely, the DAC cancels out every bit of Deep bass. I bought a USB DAC (Zorloo Zuperdac) and i prefer it a thousand times to the Quad DAC. And its also louder.
Bob marley headphones
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