As the title implies. Is this possible? if so, how?
I'm talking about the one that says "your device can't be checked for corruption" .... etc
No
It's not the end of the world, but I'm hoping that someone will find a workaround for this.
Seeming that it's allowed and doesn't break manufacturers warranty, it seems rather odd to consistently display this at boot after the first time.
It's because you bootloader is unlocked, therefore it doesn't pass certain security checks. It's like that with the Nexus 6p and I'm sure it's like that with the pixel. That will never change I don't believe.
Also becareful not to ever lock your bootloader while you have a custom recovery installed or you will brick your device.
Eric214 said:
It's because you bootloader is unlocked, therefore it doesn't pass certain security checks. It's like that with the Nexus 6p and I'm sure it's like that with the pixel. That will never change I don't believe.
Also becareful not to ever lock your bootloader while you have a custom recovery installed or you will brick your device.
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My Nexus 4 and 6 didnt have that warming but my Moto E 2015 does. I think its based on the phone. All UNLOCKED Bootloader.
Warning Sucks!
It's a security requirement set by Google (to show a warning message like that) as part of the agreement for OEMs to use Android on their devices. It will not be going away anytime soon.
The Axon 7 has a patch to get rid of this warning...
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I'm sure this has been asked before, and I read the terms when I signed up for forum.xda-developer.com, watched the videos, etc so I've been hesitant to ask this question. The thing is, after two days of searching, I can't find an answer to these questions that I'm sure a lot of new users have. I'm testing my luck and asking it here.
When I get my Nexus 7 (it's due to be delivered in a couple of days) I want to unlock/root it right away. I know that unlocking the boot loader will wipe the user data, and that it's a "pure" Android device. I don't plan to install any custom ROMs or do anything that wouldn't be possible on that stock device right away, but I want the option to be able to customize in the future. Since unlocking wipes the device, I'd rather just do it right away rather than have to deal with reinstalling a bunch of apps a month or two down the road when I'm ready to try out some custom ROMs, etc.
These are my questions:
1) Is there anything pre-installed on a Nexus 7 that isn't easily recovered after it wipes when unlocking? Followup: Will the pre-installed apps (eg. gmail) still be there after I unlock, or will I need to download them? Should I make a list of the apps that are pre-installed on the device before I unlock the bootloader to make re-installing them easy, or will they still be there?
2) Does unlocking the boot loader really void the warranty? I mean, if my device starts to show some physical problem in a couple of months (eg. screen lift, not charging) can I just re-lock it and send it in? What if it just won't turn on one day, therefore not giving me the ability to re-lock it? If I send it in, unlocked and rooted but bricked (through no fault of my own - I'm talking about a physical problem, if it was my fault I would not even bother trying to get it replaced) will they say "You voided your warranty when you unlocked it"?
Again, sorry for posting questions I'm sure have been asked before, but I just want a precise answer.
Thanks!
EDIT: BTW, I bought it straight from Google Play, I should have mentioned that before
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I'm sure this has been asked before, and I read the terms when I signed up for forum.xda-developer.com, watched the videos, etc so I've been hesitant to ask this question. The thing is, after two days of searching, I can't find an answer to this question that I'm sure a lot of new users have. I'm testing my luck and asking it here.
When I get my Nexus 7 (it's due to be delivered in a couple of days) I want to unlock/root it right away. I know that unlocking the boot loader will wipe the user data, and that it's a "pure" Android device. I don't plan to install any custom ROMs or do anything that wouldn't be possible on that stock device right away, but I want the option to be able to customize in the future. Since unlocking wipes the device, I'd rather just do it right away rather than have to deal with reinstalling a bunch of apps a month or two down the road when I'm ready to try out some customer ROMs, etc.
These are my questions:
1) Is there anything pre-installed on a Nexus 7 that isn't easily recovered after it wipes when unlocking? Followup: Will the pre-installed apps (eg. gmail) still be there after I unlock, or will I need to download them? Should I make a list of the apps that are pre-installed on the device before I unlock the bootloader to make re-installing them easy, or will they still be there?
2) Does unlocking the boot loader really void the warranty? I mean, if my device starts to show some physical problem in a couple of months (eg. screen lift, not charging) can I just re-lock it and send it in? What if it just won't turn on one day, therefore not giving me the ability to re-lock it? If I send it in, unlocked and rooted but bricked (through no fault of my own - I'm talking about a physical problem, if it was my fault I would not even bother trying to get it replaced) will they say "You voided your warranty when you unlocked it"?
Again, sorry for posting questions I'm sure have been asked before, but I just want a precise answer.
Thanks!
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1. itll just wipe away any user data or anything you put into the storage. basically youll just be factory resetting the device.
2. it really depends where youre buying it and whose warranty you are using. i exchanged my original seven a bit more than a month ago, it stopped charging completely. i exchanged it with root, with an unlocked bootloader, with a custom boot animation, with a custom recovery, and with a custom rom and kernel too. there was never an issue if it was unlocked/rooted. it was an obvious hardware issue. i got mine through the google play store. literally after 3 minutes talking to the customer service rep, he had an exchange started for me. google is really good about keeping the warranty if the device unlocked/rooted, if its a hardware issue. i didnt even have to relock/unroot when i sent mine in(after receiving the replacement. that said, other vendors will have issues with warranty exchanges if the device is unlocked. but its as easy to lock the bootloader as it is to unlock it. its as easy to unlock it by typing "fastboot oem unlock" via fastboot, and as easy to lock it typing "fastboot oem lock" to lock it back up.
1. So basically it will still have the pre-installed stuff on it?
2. Awesome, I ordered mine from the play store so that's good to hear.
Thanks for the info, you rock!
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1. itll just wipe away any user data or anything you put into the storage. basically youll just be factory resetting the device.
2. it really depends where youre buying it and whose warranty you are using. i exchanged my original seven a bit more than a month ago, it stopped charging completely. i exchanged it with root, with an unlocked bootloader, with a custom boot animation, with a custom recovery, and with a custom rom and kernel too. there was never an issue if it was unlocked/rooted. it was an obvious hardware issue. i got mine through the google play store. literally after 3 minutes talking to the customer service rep, he had an exchange started for me. google is really good about keeping the warranty if the device unlocked/rooted, if its a hardware issue. i didnt even have to relock/unroot when i sent mine in(after receiving the replacement. that said, other vendors will have issues with warranty exchanges if the device is unlocked. but its as easy to lock the bootloader as it is to unlock it. its as easy to unlock it by typing "fastboot oem unlock" via fastboot, and as easy to lock it typing "fastboot oem lock" to lock it back up.
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yes, nothing changes unless you change the rom you are using to a custom rom. then you get whatever that rom developer decided to include. but if its google apps, you can always pick them up from the play store or from flashable "gapps".
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yes, nothing changes unless you change the rom you are using to a custom rom. then you get whatever that rom developer decided to include. but if its google apps, you can always pick them up from the play store or from flashable "gapps".
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Cool. Thanks for that. Like I said I'm not going to change the ROM right away, I just don't want to deal with restarting because of an unlock in a month .
I bought my Pure Edition about a month ago. A week and a half ago, I wake up and check Google Now for the weather and the phone shuts down and is fried. It has been hot a lot, but I heard it was normal and no big deal. I went through the ordeal of getting a replacement phone a week ago Monday. I then got the email saying it would ship the day after it was received. Sweet! I was thrilled! Only 3 days with a cheap prepaid temp phone. So it doesn't get delivered on that Thursday as stated. Or the next day. I call them to check on it and they said it wasn't going to be here until Today. Surprise! I got it a day early! Yes! However, they sent me a phone that had the bootloader still locked, but the software was modified so I can't use it for work as it shows compromised in Airwatch. I'm fairly certain my account has been flagged, but that's another issue to fix. I called them again today. They will send me a new one. Again. Another week without a phone that I bought only a month ago. I really wish they had the Nexus 6 in stock the day I bought this because that is the one I wanted. I absolutely loved by 2013 Moto X. This one, not so much. The several people I was transfered between had no idea what compromised means on the bootloader. The last guy, thought that the bootloader was used for loading Airwatch in the first place. Has anyone else recieved a phone from the OEM that was compromised or modified software? Slowly, but surely losing faith in this company.
That's a disaster? We must have a very different definition of that word
OK, So I am a little upset by it all, but I just bought the phone a month ago and now I am going to be without it for 2 out of the 5 weeks of ownership. Maybe its not the RMA process, but that I am having to go through it so soon and twice at that.
I do agree that is a PITA. I bought mine used and did not have this experience. It's funny you say you liked the 2013, because I actually very much disliked the 2013 and could not be happier with my 2014.
I'm not quite following the modified software thing. They sent you a phone with a locked bootloader but was not all the way stock? I found that either a) AirWatch does not look for whether the bootloader is locked/unlocked, or b) my firm did not include that in the AirWatch policies or whatever. I unlocked my bootloader, installed TWRP, and rooted, and my phone showed up as compromised. I returned to pure stock with stock recovery, but kept my bootloader unlocked, and had no problems clearing AirWatch. I've heard the same from others on XDA. But I find it weird that Moto would ship out a phone that had compromised software. Even if it was one someone else returned, you would think it would be standard policy to ensure it is completely wiped and returned to full on factory stock condition.
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Has anyone else recieved a phone from the OEM that was compromised or modified software?
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I would return it again. This is Moto's fault for having these flags in the first place.
Yeah, shipping it locked is not a surprise, showing up in Airwatch as compromised when it's still stock recovery, locked, and non rooted? That's odd.
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I'm not quite following the modified software thing. They sent you a phone with a locked bootloader but was not all the way stock?
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There is a root checker on Motorola phones since I think ICS days. If a device has never been rooted it's status is 0/0, if it is currently rooted it is 1/1 and if it was rooted and unrooted it is 0/1. If it is either of the latter 2, it will show as modified software in bootloader mode.
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Yeah, shipping it locked is not a surprise, showing up in Airwatch as compromised when it's still stock recovery, locked, and non rooted? That's odd.
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No it's not, it means it has been rooted in the past.
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There is a root checker on Motorola phones since I think ICS days. If a device has never been rooted it's status is 0/0, if it is currently rooted it is 1/1 and if it was rooted and unrooted it is 0/1. If it is either of the latter 2, it will show as modified software in bootloader mode.
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No it's not, it means it has been rooted in the past.
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Did you try running a root checker app to see if the phone is currently rooted? Because my device was rooted, but reflashing a stock unrooted system made my phone go from compromised to compliant on our AirWatch system. And our AirWatch policies are pretty strict, because they have to meet the security tests of our clients with the strictest security policies, and we are a big law firm that represents most of the Fortune 100 and nearly (or every) major bank.
Although I do agree with your initial stance that there is really no excuse for them to ship you a pre-rooted phone without you requesting it. In the past, that would have saved me 10 minutes, but now, it would be a hassle.
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Did you try running a root checker app to see if the phone is currently rooted?
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I did it with my N6. I know the phone is unrooted as I flashed a stock system image. In the bootloader mode, it still says software is modified.
This is well known to be how it works with Motorola phones.
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Although I do agree with your initial stance that there is really no excuse for them to ship you a pre-rooted phone without you requesting it. In the past, that would have saved me 10 minutes, but now, it would be a hassle.
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His phone wasn't pre-rooted - it had been rooted in the past and that then creates the 0/1 state.
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I did it with my N6. I know the phone is unrooted as I flashed a stock system image. In the bootloader mode, it still says software is modified.
This is well known to be how it works with Motorola phones.
His phone wasn't pre-rooted - it had been rooted in the past and that then creates the 0/1 state.
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So I just tried this out. I booted into fastboot and it says my device is UNLOCKED, and then it says:
"Status Code: 3"
"Software Status: Official"
I unlocked this phone, flashed TWRP, and rooted it. I screwed around with it, downloaded a few root apps (busybox, rootbrowser, quick boot), then saw it was listed as compromised on AirWatch. I used a toolkit to do a full wipe and revert back to stock, unrooted 4.4.4 and factory recovery. I then upgraded to 5.0 through the OTA. I never relocked the bootloader. My device showed up as compliant when I redownloaded AirWatch.
And I still agree with the original premise that Motorola should have made sure this didn't happen originally--which is why they are going to fix it--but I'm not understanding why he can't get around this the same way I did. I'm not understanding why he is showing up as a modified software while I am not.
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So I just tried this out. I booted into fastboot and it says my device is UNLOCKED, and then it says:
"Status Code: 3"
"Software Status: Official"
I unlocked this phone, flashed TWRP, and rooted it. I screwed around with it, downloaded a few root apps (busybox, rootbrowser, quick boot), then saw it was listed as compromised on AirWatch. I used a toolkit to do a full wipe and revert back to stock, unrooted 4.4.4 and factory recovery. I then upgraded to 5.0 through the OTA. I never relocked the bootloader. My device showed up as compliant when I redownloaded AirWatch.
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Hmm, that is not what is happening with my N6 or on the Droid Turbo forums for those who are using MoFo. For us, once we root, that is it, even unrooting, flashing back to stock doesn't reset that root check flag.
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Hmm, that is not what is happening with my N6 or on the Droid Turbo forums for those who are using MoFo. For us, once we root, that is it, even unrooting, flashing back to stock doesn't reset that root check flag.
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If it was just Droid Turbo, I'd guess it has to do with the MoFo exploit and the fact that it is not supposed to be unlocked and rooted. And by "not supposed to be," I of course mean in the eyes of Verizon, because it is ridiculous that a company will not let you unlock your bootloader on a $600 phone once you've fully paid it off. But that is beside the point. The fact that it is also happening with your Nexus 6 pretty much defeats my theory that it is MoFo causing it.
Could it be that when I updated through a true OTA, like went to Settings > About Phone > Updates, it reset this counter? Or, ignoring the counter for a moment, that the true OTA update re-established my system as being 100% unmodified stock--"Software Status: Official"? Troubleshooting based on recent experiences without the ability to test my hypotheses (it is my work phone ,after all) is driving me nuts.
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The fact that it is also happening with your Nexus 6 pretty much defeats my theory that it is MoFo causing it.
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I just flashed my N6 back to total stock using factory images and relocked it. Software status says modified and bootloader status is status code 2 locked (which means relocked). And AFAIK, this is what everyone's experience on a Motorola phone is:
Locked Status Code 0 = never been unlocked before by the fastboot oem unlock command
Unlocked Status Code 1 = unlocked in its original factory state and never been locked before*
Locked Status Code 2 = locked but has been unlocked before
Unlocked Status Code 3 = currently unlocked
*You can't buy a phone in the Status Code 1 Unlocked state in the US. You can buy them off of Tao Bao and they are referred to as "factory" devices. They are "removed" from the Chinese factory before they are locked. However, I would not do that as I am not sure if they are on the global blacklist or not.
The Software state can be any of the following:
qe 0/0 = never been rooted
qe 1/1 = currently rooted
qe 0/1 = not currently rooted but rooted at some point in the past
States qe 1/1 and qe 0/1 will show the Software status as modified IME. So Software Modified means modified currently or at some point in the past.
I get this at each power off/on boot
"Your device software can't be checked for corruption. Please lock the bootloader." (Orange)
Already read https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6185381?p=verified_boot&rd=1
Not sure if this impacts the phone receiving beta updates, I did not install Android N, it was shipped to me in that mode and I simply used a gmail account to logon to accept beta thinking that is all I need to receive updates.
The message itself does not bother me, phone boots up and runs fine.
It shipped with the bootloader unlocked?. Have you tried downloading and flashing the beta with the bootloader unlocked? In my experience, the only time an unlocked bootloader stopped me from getting anything was when I had to update the HTC Thunderbolt back in the day. You should be totally fine with an unlocked bootloader when getting the beta upgrade.
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I get this at each power off/on boot
"Your device software can't be checked for corruption. Please lock the bootloader." (Orange)
Already read https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6185381?p=verified_boot&rd=1
Not sure if this impacts the phone receiving beta updates, I did not install Android N, it was shipped to me in that mode and I simply used a gmail account to logon to accept beta thinking that is all I need to receive updates.
The message itself does not bother me, phone boots up and runs fine.
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You will continue to receive any and all updates. The unlocked bootloader is nothing to worry about. The OTA updates will be officially useless, only if you have made changes to the /system parition, like rooting or tweaks, etc.
Although, I am also curious. Where did you buy your 6P? And, did it come unlocked?
Did not buy the phone, it was sent to me by Google, unlocked.
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Did not buy the phone, it was sent to me by Google, unlocked.
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Giveaway or something? Sorry, I still not get it.
So my safetynet checker says I failed even though I completely wiped all data! Even the sdcard data! I did a complete fastboot flash of all the system image files including the userdata file. I did not root the phone yet and I don't plan to either, I just want Android Pay.
CTS Profile Match = fail
That's what I get from the safetnet checker...My only other idea is to relock and unlock the bootloader again.
It seems you're not alone. I saw a few posts on reddit describing the same thing. The consensus is that Google may possibly be requiring locked bootloaders as well now for Safetynet.
Granted, I live in Canada and we don't have Android Pay yet. But I just won't even bother if this is the case.
It appears you are right mattkroeder...I relocked my bootloader and it passed, I unlocked it again and it failed....
Damn! I could not figure out why my Pay didn't work today. I'm stock, unlocked, custom ROM, no root. I just tried safetynet and its red. That seems like a bigger hurdle then not allowing rooted phones no pay.
It has been said all along that it was a losing battle....I just hoped that they would eventually block any and all root access at worst. Blocking the bootloader unlock I think puts a nail in the coffin of that little game. You will only be able to have Android Pay with a completely stock phone....
Looks like it is the case now. Now I'm gonna waste 2-3 hours of my precious life, reverting everything back to stock and locked.
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It has been said all along that it was a losing battle....I just hoped that they would eventually block any and all root access at worst. Blocking the bootloader unlock I think puts a nail in the coffin of that little game. You will only be able to have Android Pay with a completely stock phone....
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I have a Nexus 6P that I found when cleaning, but it's FRP locked and I have no way to get into the account. Is there a way to get around it and somehow wipe the device and flash a new version onto it
Give the phone back to the owner, the person will know what to do with it.
Just use YouTube, there usually is an exploit to get past FRP, all phones I ever had could be unlocked by a flaw in the system - good luck but this topic is actually not welcome, as we have no way to check if you are the legit owner...