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Is there anything I should know before buying the Dell Venue Pro?

I had a LG Quantum (WP7) and gave it away when I got my HTC 8s (WP8). It turns out that Xbox music is absolute garbage, almost useless. Zune is an amazing service that can't compare. I miss both that, and the physical keyboard of my Quantum.
So are there any issues with the Venue Pro I should know about? I plan on getting the 8GB AT&T model, upgrading it to 7.8, and installing my 64GB SD card, or 32GB if that doesn't work.

Matt174e said:
I had a LG Quantum (WP7) and gave it away when I got my HTC 8s (WP8). It turns out that Xbox music is absolute garbage, almost useless. Zune is an amazing service that can't compare. I miss both that, and the physical keyboard of my Quantum.
So are there any issues with the Venue Pro I should know about? I plan on getting the 8GB AT&T model, upgrading it to 7.8, and installing my 64GB SD card, or 32GB if that doesn't work.
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Yes the Camera is complete garbage and the 3g is pretty slow. My dell venue pro died after 3 days of upgrading not sure if it was the upgrade or the device just decided to not turn on. Other than that the device is truly a beautiful device

agree with the camera: it is terrible
3g is not bad for me, I get roughly 4-5 Mbps downloads on my network up here in Canada which is not too shabby for me, but keep in mind the radio is limited to 7.2Mbps max.

The phone overall is excellent. On ATT it will be very fast. The camera I found doesn't work good if you press the camera button to take a picture, it works better when you touch the screen and take a picture. I got the ATT version of the Dell Venue Pro and I use Straight Talk on it. I just believe there isnt any comparable phone out on the market that has a big screen and a qwerty keyboard at the same time. Too bad over custom rom ordeal hasn;t develop as planned!

DZ Successor - my experience

Hello guys. I was using DZ for a long time (jul 2011 - dec 2012) and got it replaced by a "standard" phone without keyboard - Xperia Ion. After almost a year of suffering without hardware keyboard I recently imported Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699) from USA.
My experience:
1) you can import Galaxy S Relay 4G to Europe without no problem, it runs on GSM/HSDPA networks and has a SIM card slot (Important!)
2) I bought it via ebay.com, in used state but with real pictures of the device and in perfect state. The costs were $125 for the phone + $39 international priority shipping + cca $35 import charges (customs and VAT - 20% in Slovakia).
3) The import charges were charged with the payment and I didn't even know about the customs process, the courier just brought me the phone. That's a plus for ebay when importing from outside EU.
4) The phone was unfortunately locked (even if the seller stated it as unlocked). But after downgrade to ICS it can be unlocked in few minutes.
5) The US charger is no use in Europe, but you can charge it with any other charger, I'm using 1500mA charger from Sony now or 1000mA from HTC. Or you can even use the original charger with travel adapter, but it's uncomfortable, your choice however.
6) The stock firmware is bloated, half of the apps installed are called "T-mobile something" If you like Samsung android environment, you can debloat it manually after rooting, but I suppose most of xda guys will flash CM11 - it's now pretty stable even in experimental state. Honestly, I've been using much more unstable roms as dd...
7) The stock rom has only few languages (en, de, es, fr), but custom roms have full list of languages.
I was considering also Moto Photon Q, but it lacks sim card slot. It can be done, there's a step by step guide on xda to solder a sim card slot. Even the guy from Prague (author of the guide) could do it personally. But I chose the easier way and got the Samsung S Relay. There are no other GSM qwerty android phones usable in Europe.
To moderators: I saw a similar thread that was closed as not related to Desire Z. I must disagree, a DZ successor is a DZ related thread, as the device is pretty old and most of owners are looking for a decent successor. Just wanted to share my personal experience. If you wish, you can move this post to the closed thread, I wouldn't mind But please, don't delete it, in my opinion it contains useful information that definitely has to be found in DZ section. thanks

I also imported one. 180 $ + import tax (new one).
The default rom is pretty decent compared to htc sense, cm10 is much faster than on the desire Z (multitask 10-15 apps: no problem).
The keyboard isn't that good as the one from the desire Z, but you have to get used to it. I have 22Mb as max speed at home (10Mb desire Z) on 3G+.

Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?

brainless00 said:
Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?
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I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.

sorgo said:
I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.
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thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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I went to a T-Mobile store and look at the actual phone today.
It looks better in hands than on the photo.

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...

To order one from Canada to Europe: http://www.canadagsm.ca/products-LG-Optimus-F3Q-Penta-Band-LTE. 2G and 3G should work; 4G not.
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Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html?

brainless00 said:
there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...
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Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I went to T-Mobile store the other day and I don't think they have that version, at least not for the US market.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I only saw pictures... so you could be right

I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...

for me,i have imported Huawei U8730,better CPU/GPU,better RAM and bigger screen than HTC DZ

nebu_06 said:
I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...
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me too

My QWERTY replacement suggestions for the G2

Hello everyone,
I have been using the g2 for many years, probably used around 3 of them, however its hardware is aging and I have moved onto other devices, though I still keep my G2 as a backup phone. I am sure many of you here are die hard qwerty fans like me, and would apprecaite an upgrade, as such I decided to list a few phones that could be upgrades to your g2 below.
Phones I have personally used:
T-Mobile mytouch 4g slide
Specifications
Dev support for this device is pretty much dead, as the last active dev for it spoilt his phone, however there's still a 99% functional cm11(4.4.0) rom for it. This device feels really fast compared to the g2 and it is an overclock monster. Its keyboard doesnt feel as comfortable as the G2's, but it is still decent. You can easily unlock it and use it on any GSM network, it takes a mini sim and supports much higher 3g speed than the g2. It also has a removeable battery and sdcard slot.
Verizon Droid 4
Specifications
It has official cm11 support and an actively developed kernel. It is very fast thanks to its 1gb of ram, apps no longer get killed due to low ram. It has the best keyboard on the market, and once you've used it, there's no going back. It takes a micro sim and you can use it on any GSM network outside the US, with a few exceptions though. Unfortunately its battery is not removeable, however it does come with a sdcard slot and has 8gb internal storage. Used ones are dirt cheap on eBay.
You can choose the Droid 3 if removeable battery is a must for you, everything is the same as the Droid 4 except no ffc and a slower clocked cpu, and no LTE if you're using it on Verizon. It takes a mini sim
Blackberry Q10
Specifications
You are reading it right, yes, Blackberry. First of all, it has the fastest hardware among all the phones here, its OS is pretty much stock android with an overlay, and you can install just about any android app directly onto it (play store doesnt't work, so only sideload), so essentially it can be classifed as an android phone. It has a really good keyboard which is expected of a Blackberry, removeable battery and sdcard slot. If you want LTE you can just get the variant which works with your carrier's frequency.
Phone which I have not used myself
T-Mobile LG Optimus F3Q
Specifications
I can't comment much on this phone as I have not used it myself, it is currently only available through T-Mobile. It has the largest battery among all the phones here. As at the time of this post, it does not have a forum on xda, however, someone has managed to root this phone already (with a few hicups), you can read more about it here
I hope you guys will find this guide useful, it shall serve as my contribution to this forum as being on it for so long.

I didn't realize you can use the droid4 with most carriers, I take it you must unlock the sim though. Good to know thanks
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T-Mobile MyTouch Q (LG c800)
T-Mobile MyTouch Q (Huawei u8730)
Samsung galaxy s relay 4G
Sony Ericson Xperia Mini Pro
Sony Ericson Xperia Pro
T-Mobile mytouch 3g slide

demkantor said:
I didn't realize you can use the droid4 with most carriers, I take it you must unlock the sim though. Good to know thanks
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You do not need to perform any unlocking as long as your sim is not from a US carrier.

Ah but it is, T-Mobile
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The Motorola Photon Q looks good as well, pretty good development as it has official PacMan and an AOSP ROM. Unfortunately I can't have any of these phones as I'd have to import them from America for lots of money. I'm might just be a traitor and get a non qwerty phone next as long as the screen is so big that typing isn't a problem. It'd be cool to get my hands on a HD2.

HTCDreamOn said:
The Motorola Photon Q looks good as well, pretty good development as it has official PacMan and an AOSP ROM. Unfortunately I can't have any of these phones as I'd have to import them from America for lots of money. I'm might just be a traitor and get a non qwerty phone next as long as the screen is so big that typing isn't a problem. It'd be cool to get my hands on a HD2.
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The Photon Q does not have a sim card slot, you'll have to perform a hardware mod and it is quite tedious, however it is dirt cheap. A brand new in box one can be had for less than 90 usd. Personally I would suggest the droid 4 (or droid 3 if you want removable battery), a used one can be had for around 60 usd.

I was also forced to retire my G2 as it no longer charges right nor does it hold it charges even new batteries are being put in, plus it's getting so dangerously hot that I can no longer feel safe using it.
I am happy to say though that the LG Optimus F3Q by T-Mobile is a good replacement for the G2.
It's not the perfect replacement but it is certainly an improvement.
The keyboard layout is not as nice as the G2 as there is only one Caps key on the left instead on both side like on the G2.
The keypress feedback is also not as nice as the keyboard on the G2.
But everything else is almost an improvement. The Android run much smoother with 1gb of ram and the better processor.
However, like the G2, the F3Q is only useable if you root it and have Link2SD running on it plus the 2gb ext2 partition on the SD card as the internal memory is simply not enough for a practical android user.
Yes, for the same price of the F3Q, you can get a much faster phone with much bigger and better screen with double the rams and better looking phone like the Nexus5. That would be my choice of phone to get if I can give up the keyboard.
However if you need a GSM android phone with physical keyboard, the F3Q is really the only choice left for you.

I will be receiving a Droid 4 in a couple of days now. It is super cheap on ebay for a mint condition unit with a clean ESN, charger, battery, and back cover. I already purchased and transferred my number over to a MicroSIM that is currently in its non-punched SIM state, and when the Droid 4 is unlocked and I get SafeStrap running on it, I'll be just popping out the MicroSIM cutout and transferring it over to the new phone. I don't care if it runs the same version as the Desire Z, I just want a bit more ram, because the 384 or whatever is in the Desire Z is just not having it with 4.X ROMS. The 1GB on the Droid 4 should be plenty for testing new roms and whatnot.
Couldn't care less about the screen, to be honest.
The F3Q looks like the one to get because it's a SnapDragon processor, as opposed to an unsupported OMAP, but for the price, I went with the Droid 4, and will be trying that one out. Worst case, I just pop the sim card back into regular SIM punch-out, and tape the back of it so it doesn't move, then transfer it to the Desire Z again.

since the thread was brought back...
I have been looking for a replacement for my Desire-Z (AT&T sim) as well. running CM11 with little problems, but the phone is getting old. And im about out of memory no matter what i punt to SD.
got an XT860 (Droid 3), but its stuck at Android 2.3.4, so that was a no-go
using a Samsung Glide i927 right now.
- downsides:
stuck at Android 4.0.4. using anything else looks like it kills Bluetooth, camera and a few wifi issues.
no spell check/correction when using physical keyboard.
no physical notification lights (email/text/call)
no App to control "permissions" of other Apps (using AVG Tuner on DesireZ does this, need > Android 4.1 to get another App to do same)
that said it works well, but im not so sure I wont go back to desireZ do to stated limitations.
I had hopes the Droid 4 would get cracked for US/ AT&T but i dont see that happening.
a physical keyboard is not critical, but HUGELY important to me. I dont have feeling enough in my fingers most of the time to work the digital keyboard.

I went from the G2 to the Samsung Galaxy Relay 4G. As far as I am aware, it is the best QWERTY option available for T Mobile users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-relay-4g
We have our own forum, CM11 milestone release, somewhat working Lollipop ROMs available.

No way. The Droid 4 is a way better phone, specs wise. And after installing Lollipop today, I am a believer. It's the perfect replacement.
Snappy. Pretty good screen. Good Camera. Lots more ram. Accepts 64gb SDCard, and works on virtually all networks.
Safestrap is relatively easy to use, and with the Razr Utility, flashing to 4.1, rooting, and then installing safestrap 3.75 to install a loli rom is super easy.
Annnnnnd the one I got was 50 USD, and it was listed as MINT condition. When I got it, it was exactly as described. MINT. not a scratch on it.
Easily the best G2 replacement.
My only gripe is that the keyboard is a bit more tactile (I liked the subtle desire z keyboard), but it is larger and more roomy. the layout is also different, so it will take some getting used to. but it's waaaay brighter than the DZ keyboard anyways. which is a plus!

I've just realised that none of them is offered by my net provider in Poland.

advice: buy Axon 7 in China to use in UK?

Hi,
I've been tempted by the Axon 7 for some time now having seen it in Beijing, and was excited to see it demoed in the ZTE Demo truck that went to our local shopping centre, presuming that it would be released imminently. Unfortunately, it hasn't appeared and since the mini version *has* appeared (Car Phone Warehouse), I presume it isn't going to be released at all.
So, I have been wondering what my options are. Is it plausible to buy one when I'm next in China and use it easily in the UK? I'm reasonably literate with phones and flashing/etc, so I could perhaps do that too, if it is an option. Does the Axon 7 in China have all the same hardware features as would be expected in the UK? I'm particularly thinking of things like NFC for Android Pay - NFC isn't used much at all in China, so it would be (almost) sensible for them to leave that off phones sold there, but it is something I would want. I would certainly want the Play Store and such like.
I have used a Chinese phone in the UK and successfully installed the Play Store on it (and it had an Intel CPU so it wasn't completely straight forward). It was also a ZTE phone (Geek v975) as it happens.
Any advice on what to do?
Max.
PS. My main reason for the Axon 7 is the front-facing speakers. However, other than not allowing *both* microsd *and* 2nd SIM, it is pretty much spot-on (note that HTC One X9 has a dedicated microsd slot and great front-facing speakers, but I can't find one that isn't locked to CMCC, and it doesn't seem to be so well thought of on this forum, though I see it does have a forum so I'll ask there too).

Axon 7 is a greate deal of hardware.
Of course you can use Chinese version on UK, but you have to flash Global rom and modem.
I myself own a Chinese version, but I flash US rom, because chinese rom is lack of play store and full of crappy app

Hi David
I did exactly what you are thinking about. I'm typing this reply from a 128gb Chinese zte axon 7. I bought from Ali express. When you but from china the seller will root the phone to enable Google play store. That's fine but it screws up obtaining the OTA updates. I can walk you through how to overcome this and get onto 7.1.1. No root nothing like that. My advice it's easy and you can save a packet getting a great phone.
Currently you can pick up an axon 7 for 270. Job done.

I'm running my 128gb Cuba version as well. I have 2 sims and an sd card running on it. There's a few threads on how to go about it. There's not much that needs doing apart from installing Google on the phone. Everything is simple. Just use the search function and you will get everything you want.
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Please advise..ZTE axon 7 6GB 128GB

Hello
Today my moto x pure dead ....?
I want your help to choose between oneplus 3t and axon 7 6GB 128GB version
Where can i buy zte phones online i didnt find 6gb version on amazon.com
And should i buy unlocked version right ? I live in saudi arabia
Is this phone better than oneplus 3t
Is the OS come with bloatware??
Plz help me

You can only buy the 6gb "enhanced" version directly from ZTE, from my understanding. Make sure the wireless bands are compatible with your country.
The Oneplus 3T and Axon 7 are very similar in specs. Axon 7 has much better audio, slightly better screen, and SD card support. The 3T has a better software development community if you enjoy custom ROMs. I'd say those are the main differences.
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Thanx but zteusa.com told me they stop selling axon 7 enhanced version ...they making new device and it will be rady this summer ...what should i do now ...wait or go to oneplus 3t ?

Any reason you have to have the enhanced version? The standard Axon 7 supports up to 128gb micro SD. You won't notice a difference between 4gb and 6gb or RAM as no app uses that much memory. You'll be pushing it to use up 2gb or RAM.
Personally I'd find a good deal on a Axon 7 or wait for the new phones to be announced in the coming months and go from there. I'm not sure how quickly you need a new phone.
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Mohannad-K said:
Thanx but zteusa.com told me they stop selling axon 7 enhanced version ...they making new device and it will be rady this summer ...what should i do now ...wait or go to oneplus 3t ?
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You don't really need the 6gb. The OP3 was rumored not to use those extra 2GB and no one noticed for a long time. The SD821 is pretty much the same as the SD820 that the Axon packs, taking thermal throttling into consideration. And you can use SD cards, true too.
If the new device they were talking about is the axon Max thing you probably should not wait, unless you don't care much about how the thing looks...

The reason why i want enhanced version that i dont want to buy new phone every year ..atleast 2-3 years
And if my moto didnt dead accidently i will not change it until next year
So that i want the powerfull phone with good price
Actually i need SD card option very much ..beacause of this feature in moto x i didnt loose my files when my phone dead and i restore every thing to my temporary phone also phone sound on moto x pure is very good as it had 2 stereo speakers..and i think the zte also have good speaker too
6GB of ram its for future .. as u see all apps now growing and eat too much memory like snapchat and facebookand also im using my phone to record youtube video and edit it then uplode it to my channel
If u have link to enhanced version i will be appreciate...i didnt buy from ebay before as i dont trust seller thair so if u found good deals on ebay or other site plz post the link here
Thank you Guys

6 gb of RAM îs only for market sales only. Not for a few years from now 6 gb will not be used.
There îs not a single software țo ușe 6 gb beside benchmark software

Mohannad-K said:
The reason why i want enhanced version that i dont want to buy new phone every year ..atleast 2-3 years
And if my moto didnt dead accidently i will not change it until next year
So that i want the powerfull phone with good price
Actually i need SD card option very much ..beacause of this feature in moto x i didnt loose my files when my phone dead and i restore every thing to my temporary phone also phone sound on moto x pure is very good as it had 2 stereo speakers..and i think the zte also have good speaker too
6GB of ram its for future .. as u see all apps now growing and eat too much memory like snapchat and facebookand also im using my phone to record youtube video and edit it then uplode it to my channel
If u have link to enhanced version i will be appreciate...i didnt buy from ebay before as i dont trust seller thair so if u found good deals on ebay or other site plz post the link here
Thank you Guys
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I understand your worries and concerns, but trust me they are unfounded. The only reason why android phones went to 4GB was for 64 bit capabilities. 6GB of RAM is completely uncalled for, as shown by Samsung when they only put 4GB of RAM in the new S8 (After the Note 7 flop they were not about to hold anything back in an attempt to show it's fan base that Samsung is still good). Don't worry about it, just buy the Axon 7. You will not regret it. 4GB of RAM is plenty, and that won't change anytime soon.

Thank you guys i think i will go with your advise☺
Did this version ok for me
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...zte+axon+7&dpPl=1&dpID=51PpzAlitpL&ref=plSrch
Its unlocked but i dont know if will work in the country i live
Another small question is zte phones software contain blowtware app Like asus zenfone?

Hmm seems US version a2017u will not working perfectly in saudi arabia
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...xon-7-a2017u-dual-sim-lte-a-64gb/saudi-arabia
And Eu a2017g version will working good
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...on-7-a2017g-dual-sim-td-lte-64gb/saudi-arabia
What d o u think guys now

Ali express from china. Cheap and works fine