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VERY Strange WIFI problem

Ok
so for the last couple of days I've noticed that when at home, if I turn on the HD2's Wifi, my entire home network stops working. The router can no longer be accessed, even by wired Ethernet.
I figure it was a router issue, so I bought a newer better one by a different company - and what do you know: The same problem persists! As soon as I enable WiFi in my HD2 the router becomes unaccessible - and as I turn it off, all is well again.
I'm a computer technician, an MCSA and usually pretty good with those things, yet this issue baffles me. What on earth could cause that?
No other WIFI devices cause this issue, only my HD2.

Ambious said:
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so for the last couple of days I've noticed that when at home, if I turn on the HD2's Wifi, my entire home network stops working. The router can no longer be accessed, even by wired Ethernet.
I figure it was a router issue, so I bought a newer better one by a different company - and what do you know: The same problem persists! As soon as I enable WiFi in my HD2 the router becomes unaccessible - and as I turn it off, all is well again.
I'm a computer technician, an MCSA and usually pretty good with those things, yet this issue baffles me. What on earth could cause that?
No other WIFI devices cause this issue, only my HD2.
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What is the radio firmware version on the phone and what is the make, model and firmware revision of the router.
2 IT engineers are always better the one

My older router (with same problem) was 3Com 3CRWER200-75.
I replaced it with an Edimax BR-6524N. Same weird issue.
Both have latest firmwares.
My phone radio version... To be honst, I don't know how to check. My ROM version is 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE - which is the stock rom of the Israeli version as supplied by Newpan.
Also worth mentioning, this didn't happen until a couple of days ago. Everyting was fine for months with the same exact configuration. SOMETHING must've changed, but what?
And how is it possible for my phone to kill two different routers?

I have the same problem with my laptop when running windows 7 but not linux....seems too me at least my problem is a driver issue.could be the damned for you too possibly. Was there a possible divert update on your phone?
I do not have an hd2 so I am not sure.
Edited for auto correct mistake

Ambious said:
My older router (with same problem) was 3Com 3CRWER200-75.
I replaced it with an Edimax BR-6524N. Same weird issue.
Both have latest firmwares.
My phone radio version... To be honst, I don't know how to check. My ROM version is 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE - which is the stock rom of the Israeli version as supplied by Newpan.
Also worth mentioning, this didn't happen until a couple of days ago. Everyting was fine for months with the same exact configuration. SOMETHING must've changed, but what?
And how is it possible for my phone to kill two different routers?
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You check your phone radio revision the same way you check your rom version. Go to settings, about phone, software information and look for the line "radio version".
Your actual rom version is quiet old and if you are still using a stock rom then you may want to have a look at the htc website for your country and see if you can get 1.66 rom or newer.
I personally have never experienced this problem but i always use linksys or netgear networking equipment. The linksys router i have at home i've had for many years (it's a wrt54g v2.0) and it still works perfectly even though it's cpu and networking chipsets are overclocked and it runs a custom firmware.

Well, the ROM is the latest available for my country :-(
But anyway, I managed to solve it by deleted all my wireless preferences and just 'rediscovering' my home network from scratch. Surprisingly that worked and solved the problem, even on my old router.
Now I'm wondering if I should return the new one and stick to my trust good old one, or stick with the new one? It was pretty expensive, and I don't really use an N wireless connection anywhere anyway, so... What do you think, XDA?

Ambious said:
Well, the ROM is the latest available for my country :-(
But anyway, I managed to solve it by deleted all my wireless preferences and just 'rediscovering' my home network from scratch. Surprisingly that worked and solved the problem, even on my old router.
Now I'm wondering if I should return the new one and stick to my trust good old one, or stick with the new one? It was pretty expensive, and I don't really use an N wireless connection anywhere anyway, so... What do you think, XDA?
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You have no need for it, get your money back.

the hd2 is capable of N speeds. You just need to enable it in the registry. Personally i would use the old one till it dies and keep the newer one in a box till then but the choice is yours

The newer one is a lot of money I spent for something I didn't even need eventually. I'll be turning it back, I think.
Thanks to all who helped You guys rock!

Ambious said:
Well, the ROM is the latest available for my country :-(
But anyway, I managed to solve it by deleted all my wireless preferences and just 'rediscovering' my home network from scratch. Surprisingly that worked and solved the problem, even on my old router.
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great to hear that you've found a solution!
A thought came to mind while reading this thread.
Wonder if it's possible that a certain radio file/setting on your HD2 might've been corrupted and instead of generating the usual wifi signal, it could've generated a signal on the same frequency that completely jammed you're router signal?
Similar to the radio jammer units available in some countries that can be used for GSM, Wifi, etc... just a thought!

Im glad you brought this up because I had the exact same problem (accept I could connect via ethernet just wifi went dead), almost brought a new router after spending 2 days trying to set it up :/ It wouldnt allow anything to see the router wifi wise let alone connect to it via wifi. I havent turned my wifi on the phone since then but ill try reseting my settings later to see if that works. I didnt wanna risk screwing the router over lol. Im on stock 1.48 rom and radio on o2 as well

bobbified said:
great to hear that you've found a solution!
A thought came to mind while reading this thread.
Wonder if it's possible that a certain radio file/setting on your HD2 might've been corrupted and instead of generating the usual wifi signal, it could've generated a signal on the same frequency that completely jammed you're router signal?
Similar to the radio jammer units available in some countries that can be used for GSM, Wifi, etc... just a thought!
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That's an interesting thought, and if it's true - reversing it could be a tool for evil - just imagine being able to shut down networks just like that...
Anyway, I'm glad my issue was solved. That Edimax N router is really expensive, and I like my trusty old 3Com way better.

My N*kia n95 used to f*ck up the router like this sometimes

Wifi connected but doesnt work.

We have 3 SGS2 at home and a Billion 7800N modem
There is a recurring problem on my wifes phone where there is no dataflow. I cant even reach the modem. It will just start working all the sudden for a short period then stop again.
Things I have tried.
1. Using it right next to the router
2. have tried using different channel
3. have reset modem
4. made sure sleep policy is on never
5. Update firmware and hard reset phone - no new apps installed - worked at first but now having problems again.
It never loses wifi connectivity....internet just does not work. Turn 3g on...works fine.
What could be the problem?
Only things I can think of
1. Faulty phone
2. Virus? That phone is sometimes used to check out Chinese websites...and I know some of them can be dodgy. I forgot to ask her not to go to any of those sites after the hard reset as trial and error.
3. Not certain but this problem may only started when we updated to 2.3.4.
If need be Ill hard reset AGAIN when XXKG6 is out - I dont want to flash back to 2.3.3 to try

auswill2 said:
What could be the problem?
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I have the impression, that the Broadcom WiFi drivers of Android are still buggy, because my Asus Transformer's WiFi also isn't very good.
When using a static IP address and setting Google's free DNS 8.8.8.8 as a secondary DNS server (the router as primary), my SGS2's WiFi works best.
Maybe give it a try.

I have the exact setup and tried all the things you mentioned to no avail. It works sporadically after I reset the phone wifi on and off but it won't maintain data connection for long. Although the signal indicator says it is still connected. the billion 7800 works on my wifes sgs and connects without problem to my work htc legend.
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If you google for "galaxy s2 wifi no internet", you'll find out, that several SGS2 owners have exactly the same problem.
I all cases it seems to be the router's firmware, that causes this problem. I found two users reporting, that the only solution was to download a new firmware from ...
http://dd-wrt.com
But maybe it helps to drop the speed from 802.11 N to G?

I have the exact same problem and my firmwire on my router is the latest. What I do to fix this problem is just unplug my router and plug it back in. I find that fixes it for me. Post back if that doesn't work
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isinisterx said:
... firmwire on my router is the latest.
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That's why two guys reported, that they had to download a new FW from DD-WRT, which solved the problem for them.
Sorry, that I don't post links ... it were german forums.

I have the exact same problem. You say that the other two S2's work perfectly? If that's the case then it must be a hardware fault. I'm gonna take mine to be fixed or replaced.

steviewonders said:
If that's the case then it must be a hardware fault.
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Likely ... maybe different firmware?

Yes....my SGS2 and my brothers work fine. When I update....I update all 3 so we are all using the same firmware.
Thats why I believe its a problem specific to 1 phone....not the router (although I did update my router to latest firmware just in case.....same problem)
As a side note - my brother has a microphone echo problem when using a specific gel case. When my wife and I use the exact same case - no problem. I dont know how Samsung build their phones - but its not very consistent.

auswill2 said:
Thats why I believe its a problem specific to 1 phone...
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Shure ... in this case THIS phone has a hardware defect.
I dont know how Samsung build their phones - but its not very consistent.
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That's why we have a thread about the "Made in ..."
But that's not only a Samsung problem ... I know that from the Asus Transformer forum.

Ill see where our phones are made if I have time. If anything though, my brother should be the odd 1 out as his was bought in Australia whereas I got the other 2 from UK.
Ill get to the bottom of this....even if I have to keep doing hard reset and trial and error tests. Not being able to use wifi is a huge deal.

Just to confirm, the problem's not only apparent in 2.3.4. My phone has the same problem with 2.3.3. I've sent my phone in for repair now so i'll post my findings here in a week or so. Have you got any further with it?

I sure hope they do fix it somehow....It's becoming increasingly annoying having to flick wifi on and off, downloading apps is the worst. This never happened on mine or my girlfriends htc's.

Anyone able to find a solution for this problem? Just picked up my Galaxy S2 and have the exact same issue Wifi connects, surf the net for about 10 sec, then nothing.. still connected to Wifi and everything.
At work at the moment so can't really play around with the router settings but will try once I get home. Have been looking forward to getting this phone for a while now and to have Wifi issues right off the bat is quite disappointing..

wifi connected no data flow
i had the same problem
i tried different ways no sucess
i tried Set DNS Pro from market
tried different settings
applied different dns
shift from open , custom to google ang keep checking the internet in browser
after few try it works everytime
its to do with assigning ip address in android
thanks

I posted a solution a few weeks back....but i think most people overlooked it....so the solution is
Go to settings>>>>wireless and networks>>>>>wifi settings>>>>hit menu and go to advanced>>>>regulatory domain>>>>change the channel to 14.....thts it....it worked for me on vibrant,nexus one and even on sgs2..hope this helps
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zainqaiser said:
change the channel to 14
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Channel 14 is not allowed in most countries ... my german router e.g. doesn't have channel 14, only 1-13.
I had similar issues with my Asus Transformer and found out, that a static IP works best, BUT only if a secondary DNS is assigned too. I used Google's 8.8.8.8
Give it a try. The Broadcom drivers seem to have a bug, when no secondary DNS is assigned.

The "regulatory domain" setting isn't there on my galaxy s2 ;/ Will give the static IP solution a try.

zainqaiser said:
I posted a solution a few weeks back....but i think most people overlooked it....so the solution is
Go to settings>>>>wireless and networks>>>>>wifi settings>>>>hit menu and go to advanced>>>>regulatory domain>>>>change the channel to 14.....thts it....it worked for me on vibrant,nexus one and even on sgs2..hope this helps
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thx mate ..... this worked for me

I have the same problem currently on 2.3.4 (KH3) and I also had it on 2.3.3 (KF3).
I currently can't find the Regulatory Domain setting.

[Q] WiFi issues on almost all ROMs - MB525 red lens

Hi All,
Since I got my DEFY I have WiFi problems. This issue only exists when WiFI has WPA/WPA2 PSK authorisation.
It is going like this: I connect over the wifi. Then connection works fine, I am able to browse www, check the emails etc, and after few seconds, minutes the connection stops working but still exist. I try to reconnect several times. Defy shows that is connected but nothing works fine. Internet apps or Market gives a message like the time is up, connection lost. I have to forget the conection in settings or reset device to get it working properly, but not for long.
And the thing is that there is only ONE ROM that works fine with WiFi on my DEFY. This is Cyanogenmod-7.1.0-RC1. Other ROMs have same issues. Doesn't mater if it is Cyanogen mod 7.1 stable or any MIUI or MS2Ginger. I tried almost all roms but nothing helped. So I had to go back to CM7.1.0-RC1.
Do you know what should I do to make WiFi working fine on other roms?
greetings,
Gregory
p.s.
Please, just don't tell me that I should change authorisation on WiFi router. This is not a solution for me, because I use WiFi in a lot different places.

Same problem
Hi,
I have the same problem with my Defy since a few months, no solutions!

I have the *EXACT* same issue. Was about to roll back to stock and send it in for repair, glad I found your post! I'll install the ROM you suggested and keep hoping this gets fixed

just fixed my wifi issue for the second time. If there are to many remembered networks no more wifi. You can turn it on but it cant find any. delete all remembered networks and back on line. that is the only conectivity problem I have ever had after months of cm7

wilson1813 said:
just fixed my wifi issue for the second time. If there are to many remembered networks no more wifi. You can turn it on but it cant find any. delete all remembered networks and back on line. that is the only conectivity problem I have ever had after months of cm7
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I think that's a different problem than we're having. It is finding the network just fine (and connecting) in our case. It's just that internet connectivity refuses to work after a few minutes, forcing us to disconnect-reconnect to get it working again
@OP: Thanks a lot! The ROM you mentioned does indeed not have this problem. It's not as stable as some of the more recent roms though, think I'll still be forced to revert to stock

i had exactly that problem with my first defy, no solution man, i send it to warranty and they give me other

maybe changing the regulatory domain channels from 11 to 14 could help. this option is hidden by default, you have to enable it: change the value of 'ro.debuggable' from 0 to 1 in /system/bootmenu/config/default.prop, save and reboot. after that, the regulatory domain setting will be shown in settings/wireless/wifi/advanced. simply change it to 14 channels.
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@OP: Apparently the issue still occurs on the version you mentioned as well...just happens less often.
cdlq456 said:
i had exactly that problem with my first defy, no solution man, i send it to warranty and they give me other
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Hmm..weird thing is, I never had this issue on the stock ROM
zakoo2 said:
maybe changing the regulatory domain channels from 11 to 14 could help. this option is hidden by default, you have to enable it: change the value of 'ro.debuggable' from 0 to 1 in /system/bootmenu/config/default.prop, save and reboot. after that, the regulatory domain setting will be shown in settings/wireless/wifi/advanced. simply change it to 14 channels.
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Thank you for the suggestion! Just tried this, didn't resolve the issue sadly
I'm looking into rolling back to a stock Froyo rom but the information is scattered all over the place, I'm having a hard time figuring out if it's possible, and if so, how ;/

Anyone have any more ideas? ;/

darkdevil1 said:
Anyone have any more ideas? ;/
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OK, maybe I just passed the signpost but... do you still have the problem if you set your "select network" setting to 3G only?
I ask because (and it may be different on my phone as I am USA, stock ROM with wifi calling) if you go into the INFO menu > phone information > set preferred network type, mine toggles between three radio preferences: "GSM only" (when wifi is active), "GSM auto (prl)" and -- if I set for 3G Only, "WCDMA only".
I have noticed that when "select network" setting is at automatic (or 2G only) it often has trouble transitioning from cell to wifi. And, when wifi is an issue, I find that "GSM auto (prl)" has been selected (which on my USA phone prevents wifi connection). However, it seems to have no issue whatsoever transitioning from "WCDMA only" (3G only) to "GSM only", which on my phone then allows wifi connection. Again, this is a wifi calling phone so may be different.

Yep, same here BUT ! I get root browser, found my build.prop and change wifi chanells first time for 14 and it didnt help so i try other and my wifi works in 100% with 13 chanells. Try it

This is a widely know problem, many people are affected more or less. I'm also having nerve-blowing times with wifi sucking all over... Stock Froyo (and now Cyanogen 7.2) seems to be a bit more stable, sometimes everything is fine for a few hours, all downloads go lightning fast - and then suddenly things are screwed up. I tried a lot of MIUI releases as I like it most. MIUI seemed the most problematic so far. I don't know what is the cause, new stock Motorola Gingerbread ROM versions also have this issue (except one I think - look it up in the forum).
Agree, bothering with the router is not a solution. My Nokia E51, my EeePC, my girlfriend's Omnia and Lifebook - all work perfectly with all the four routers we use frequently. Not a single glitch - everything is stable and nice, except Defy.
I don't think is a hardware problem with certain devices, it seems more to do with the way Defy handles wireless connections.
Anyway, it's frustrating but CM7.2 and CEE Froyo gives a bit better experience than others.

masspl said:
Yep, same here BUT ! I get root browser, found my build.prop and change wifi chanells first time for 14 and it didnt help so i try other and my wifi works in 100% with 13 chanells. Try it
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You mean changing ro.wifichannels to 13?.
Don't do that, my phone wouldn't boot any more. Had to restore nandroid BU...

darkdevil1 said:
You mean changing ro.wifichannels to 13?.
Don't do that, my phone wouldn't boot any more. Had to restore nandroid BU...
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I didnt know that... it help me but i see for other its bad

Mine boots fine...

VTomi1975 said:
Mine boots fine...
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Strange, perhaps I messed up something else accidentally then. Has it resolved your problem?

My mate do same think but he leave space after "13" and there was some problems with boot after this ;/ So maybe u do same ... Im sory if i make some problem

darkdevil1 said:
Strange, perhaps I messed up something else accidentally then. Has it resolved your problem?
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No, problem still persists. Sometimes it works flawlessly for hours. Then... suddenly screwed :S In some cases a "switch wifi on/off" workout can help but not always.

VTomi1975 said:
No, problem still persist. Sometimes it works flawlessly for hours. Then... suddenly screwed :S In some cases a "switch wifi on/off" workout can help but not always.
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Same. Thanks for your response.
I've rolled back to 2.2 and no Wifi issues so far. I'll just stay on this stock ROM.

darkdevil1 said:
Same. Thanks for your response.
I've rolled back to 2.2 and no Wifi issues so far. I'll just stay on this stock ROM.
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Which Froyo version do you use? A few times this wifi-bug occured also under Froyo. I'm thinking about going back myself, as Froyo is the only acceptable release to record hiccups-free videos

[Q] Tab 4 7.0 forgets wifi

After an hour on the device it simply forgets it's connected. Even if I'm watching a movie it will stop aND say no connection. I've returned it once so I think it is software vs hardware. Anyone else?
Goofy

I had a 7.0 for a week and not one had problems
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Yeah mine does that also, not my fave, but I just turn the wifi off and then back on again. Sometimes it only stays on the wifi for 10 minutes! Hope there is a fix at some point.
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Seems like a Samsung issue....
Looks like all along the Galaxy lineup there are wifi issues.
I tried everything, preventing wifi from sleeping, using wifi fixer, nothing seems to work.
Sometimes my wifi will stay connected, the upload will work, but I get no download.
Rebooting wifi on quick toggle seems to only do the trick.

Have you all updated the software?
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smknutson said:
Have you all updated the software?
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Yep, I updated to the latest software the moment I received the tab

Hmm, have you tried with more than one WiFi connection?
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smknutson said:
Hmm, have you tried with more than one WiFi connection?
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Yep, seems to do it more often with a 5Ghz connection than 2.4 though.
None of my other 5Ghz devices (3 iPhones and an iPad) drop wifi.
Signal is on clearest channel available.
Pretty much isolated everything outside of this tablet.
I'm pretty techy with my home networking, so I'm at a loss with this one.

Yes, it has been updated and yes it has occurred on my home wifi, my work wifi, my doctor's office wifi, and unfortunately the hospital's wifi. All with the same outcome! My S5 doesn't do it nor did my S4 running Kit Kat.

So, still no fixes for this! As a previous poster now it is getting where if I'm playing a game it will drop after 10 minutes! I have power save off everything. While hitting the WIFI on off button works it is highly annoying! I want my WIFI all the time not when my tablet thinks I should!
Goofy

Think I have a solution http://tinyurl.com/nfbgxds
Hope 5th is will help out so far so good for me!

I just got this tab 4 7 inch last week and I am having the same problem with connections showing connected but not having any data transfer. The steps in the above link did not help for me.
I have updated to the latest firmware posted on sammobile, both the Canada version and the nook (BNN) version. Neither have made a difference.
I have found another thread in thisnforrum for this same problem, and there wasn't any solution there either.
I did find wha I think might be solution but haven't proofed it yet. in the build prop there was two "ro.carrier" lines. I think there is only supposed to be one, so I commented out one.
Original Example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
ro.carrier=unknown
Changed example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
#ro.carrier=unknown
If anybody can confirm this makes a difference or not please post results
EDIT::
After two weeks without problem anymore it appears the fix was the static IP address not the build prop change.
I found threads going back to at least 2007 about Samsung devices having trouble with dhcp and all the solutions being manually assign a static IP to the device.

Same issue here. Sometimes I have to cycle the WiFi every webpage!
Both of the above solutions didn't work for me, unfortunately.
Edit: Okay, I may have found the issue, at least for me. Turns out, the tablet was auto-assigning the same IP as my RasPi. After setting a static IP, everything looks okay from here. Hope this helps!

Changing to static IP did nothing, I was having to reset wifi on the tab every time I turned on the screen.
I even had wifi fixer constantly running.
Finally updated to NJ3 and everything is working properly.
Looks like it's a FW issue.

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Example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
ro.carrier=unknown
Changed example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
#ro.carrier=unknown
If anybody can confirm this makes a difference or not please post results
EDIT::
After two weeks without problem anymore it appears the fix was the static IP address not the build prop change.
I found threads going back to at least 2007 about Samsung devices having trouble with dhcp and all the solutions being manually assign a static IP to the device.
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It should be one line:
ro.carrier=wifi-only
Script can be added however by attacting to the rom on the correct line parameters and scripting for digital on board configuration (no smart card) QMAL gsm, gprs, 3g, 4g, even lte or 5g, or 6g, no sim card required researve slot for world phone, or dual networking. The problem is each phone has to be separately programmed so cell companiesnhave walked away from needing higher qualified employees by switching to smart cards. Cost way less and employes way less people and note, your phone didnt cost you a penny less. I been doing cell phone tweaking since the motorolla brick was cool. Currently I used Samsung Galaxy Note 8010 64-bit 32 gig converted to XAC (its the industry's mobile payment recieveing device you see at bars, its made from the model previous mentioned)[to-wit-it says on their site not to tell anyone about]-or else- build then added Debian, Jessie. Then switched the imei to XAC, installed the telephony.manager.is_network_roaming=true along with the prpper scripting for the support and am hooked up to Sask-Tell. Once I got it connected and registered so it had a sign in address with the system i swutched the imei to all 000000000000's now they dont even send me a bill. But it works. The guy at the phone company couldnt even tell me where i was calling him from and he said my phone was disconnected while I was on the phone with him from the disconnected number. lmfao have a good day.

What do you do? 5ghz Wi-Fi issue...

Hi Guys,
I just got my Prime Day Essential set up and after updating to the latest Android 8.1.0 build with the July patches I'm one of the lucky ones with the 5ghz Wi-Fi issue, where when I connect to a 5ghz Wi-Fi, the connection and speed starts throttling down to no bandwidth at all. My workaround has been using the slower 2.4ghz SSID. I also have the issue where the Play Store download sometimes waits forever to download in the queue.
What do you guys do with this issue? Flash to Android P? Something else with you router?
I really don't think it's my router because obviously all other devices in the house are working flawlessly... Appreciate ANY help... Thank you!

ProFragger said:
Hi Guys,
I just got my Prime Day Essential set up and after updating to the latest Android 8.1.0 build with the July patches I'm one of the lucky ones with the 5ghz Wi-Fi issue, where when I connect to a 5ghz Wi-Fi, the connection and speed starts throttling down to no bandwidth at all. My workaround has been using the slower 2.4ghz SSID. I also have the issue where the Play Store download sometimes waits forever to download in the queue.
What do you guys do with this issue? Flash to Android P? Something else with you router?
I really don't think it's my router because obviously all other devices in the house are working flawlessly... Appreciate ANY help... Thank you!
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Welcome to the "club"... :silly:
I've been searching for a solution to this issue since I got the PH-1 about 3 weeks ago. Here I read your post, and I just did a test to disappoint myself once again with the issue... but... it doesn't seem to be happening anymore?!??
I am running AOSiP (8.1 w/ July security patch) with the latest Neutrino Fornax kernel (important because it has the latest Android P WLAN drivers, same as the Essential P B3 066 stock release). I am going to see if I can determine what might have fixed it, but I've been running this setup for a week and it originally had the problem.
What I would suggest:
- Don't spend much time diagnosing your router, all the changes suggested in these forums didn't change anything for me at least (YMMV). As you said, all other devices in your home are working fine (same here).
- Don't install P to resolve this issue. I clean flashed the Essential P Beta Release, and the problem was still there. In fact it seems to have been worse, with PS download stopping completely with a message "Waiting for WiFi".
- Try a different kernel. Try the latest ElementalX kernel (3.0.6). I believe it has the updated WLAN drivers as well since it supports Android P. I don't believe the Neutrino kernel works on stock.
- Check your PlayStore version, I think mine was updated recently (11.0.50-all[0] [PR] 206665793)
I am going to look into this more, and if I find a definitive "this is what fixed it" I will post it here. Good luck...

This is issue is not present for me on 9.0 further the speed difference between 2.4 and 5 isn't really world eg being on 2.4 is still faster than most broadband connections. This is seems to be a google security patch issue on 8.1 and likely will be fixed in the next patch. When the latest 9.0 beta came out it seemed to go away. So it seems they know how to fix it.

I have no problem either, latest android P, rooted with rey darkroom kernel
Edit, can u guys connect to any wifi? There seems to be an issue, after flashing various ota's, stock images, or treble gsi's that disable wifi and Bluetooth and the only way i have found to fix them, isfor android P at least) to flash a july 8.1 images (flashall. Bat) then flash android P to fix wifi and Bluetooth issues.

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Welcome to the "club"... :silly:
I've been searching for a solution to this issue since I got the PH-1 about 3 weeks ago. Here I read your post, and I just did a test to disappoint myself once again with the issue... but... it doesn't seem to be happening anymore?!??
I am running AOSiP (8.1 w/ July security patch) with the latest Neutrino Fornax kernel (important because it has the latest Android P WLAN drivers, same as the Essential P B3 066 stock release). I am going to see if I can determine what might have fixed it, but I've been running this setup for a week and it originally had the problem.
What I would suggest:
- Don't spend much time diagnosing your router, all the changes suggested in these forums didn't change anything for me at least (YMMV). As you said, all other devices in your home are working fine (same here).
- Don't install P to resolve this issue. I clean flashed the Essential P Beta Release, and the problem was still there. In fact it seems to have been worse, with PS download stopping completely with a message "Waiting for WiFi".
- Try a different kernel. Try the latest ElementalX kernel (3.0.6). I believe it has the updated WLAN drivers as well since it supports Android P. I don't believe the Neutrino kernel works on stock.
- Check your PlayStore version, I think mine was updated recently (11.0.50-all[0] [PR] 206665793)
I am going to look into this more, and if I find a definitive "this is what fixed it" I will post it here. Good luck...
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Thanks for the warm welcome, my friend and even more so, thank you so much for your very detailed post and what you've done to remedy.
I assume messing with the kernel and etc will require Bootloader unlocking and rooting, right? I haven't rooted a phone since the V20, just been opting out of that life for secure payment methods, stable battery and just general ease of moving from phone to phone like I do ?.
What I did last night... Could be a fluke, could be placebo, however, changing the channels on my 5ghz network, rebooting the router, I've been connected to the 5ghz network with my Essential for about 12 hours now with no throttling. I'm not sure if it was in fact the channel change or rebooting the router that cleared things up? Albeit, the signal strength on this network on this phone is the lowest I have seen between the Note 8, HTC U12+, iPhone 7 Plus...
Please keep the research up, I will too, this problem really has no documented solution yet.
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This is issue is not present for me on 9.0 further the speed difference between 2.4 and 5 isn't really world eg being on 2.4 is still faster than most broadband connections. This is seems to be a google security patch issue on 8.1 and likely will be fixed in the next patch. When the latest 9.0 beta came out it seemed to go away. So it seems they know how to fix it.
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Thank you bud, good to hear you're not seeing the issue... But honestly, it does exist for some of us. I really hope it's the issue with the July patch, that'll make things so much easier! Although, I disagree 5ghz is much faster for me than my 2.4ghz network...
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I have no problem either, latest android P, rooted with rey darkroom kernel
Edit, can u guys connect to any wifi? There seems to be an issue, after flashing various ota's, stock images, or treble gsi's that disable wifi and Bluetooth and the only way i have found to fix them, isfor android P at least) to flash a july 8.1 images (flashall. Bat) then flash android P to fix wifi and Bluetooth issues.
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Thanks for reporting, good Sir. Yes, I can connect to any network, just low signal strength and the choking issue I had before my router change. Bluetooth seems stable with my smart watch, though the watch seems to be draining the battery faster on this phone... Who knows man ??

You might have noticed I am on the P beta. Also have you run actual wifi speed tests or are we taking seat of the pants feelings?

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You might have noticed I am on the P beta. Also have you run actual wifi speed tests or are we taking seat of the pants feelings?
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Hey bud, yes good to see promising reports from P beta... Hoping the bad WiFi is resolved for the ones who get it.
And yes, speed tested, repeatedly. Sadly, Essential's top speeds are way worse than the Note 8, HTC U12+, iPhone 7 Plus... I'm talking almost 100mbps less ?...
For whatever reason though, the choking of the bandwidth down to unusual issue has gone away. Not sure if rebooting the Router did that? WiFi signal is also the worst I have seen on this phone out of all the others mentioned...
I appreciate you sharing your experience.

ProFragger said:
Hey bud, yes good to see promising reports from P beta... Hoping the bad WiFi is resolved for the ones who get it.
And yes, speed tested, repeatedly. Sadly, Essential's top speeds are way worse than the Note 8, HTC U12+, iPhone 7 Plus... I'm talking almost 100mbps less ...
For whatever reason though, the choking of the bandwidth down to unusual issue has gone away. Not sure if rebooting the Router did that? WiFi signal is also the worst I have seen on this phone out of all the others mentioned...
I appreciate you sharing your experience.
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So your downloads are not as fast as your other devices but you no longer see the downloads slow to a crawl (~100KB/s)? My downloads are not slowing to a crawl either any longer. Something must have been updated from a Google perspective because nothing I changed could explain the issue just going away... :fingers-crossed...

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So your downloads are not as fast as your other devices but you no longer see the downloads slow to a crawl (~100KB/s)? My downloads are not slowing to a crawl either any longer. Something must have been updated from a Google perspective because nothing I changed could explain the issue just going away... :fingers-crossed...
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Haha well my good luck didn't last too long, I fried my data, playing with Substratum, on a rooted system :'(... but here's to hoping the 5ghz good luck continues! Don't you love it when "magic" is the answer !?
All jokes aside, my WiFi signal and radio is still the weakest hardware I have EVER seen on ANY device!

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Haha well my good luck didn't last too long, I fried my data, playing with Substratum, on a rooted system :'(... but here's to hoping the 5ghz good luck continues! Don't you love it when "magic" is the answer !?
All jokes aside, my WiFi signal and radio is still the weakest hardware I have EVER seen on ANY device!
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I just had a issue with Substratum as well... what do you mean "fried my data"? I was able to recover my system using the Substratum rescue, copied to the cache/ partition and flash in TWRP. Did you already re-flash everything?

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I just had a issue with Substratum as well... what do you mean "fried my data"? I was able to recover my system using the Substratum rescue, copied to the cache/ partition and flash in TWRP. Did you already re-flash everything?
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Hey bud, yeah, I was playing with Substratum on a NON-rooted, bootloader locked device with Andromeda. So when I had the bootloop, I had no custom recovery in place to flash the rescue zip. :'(
So I "fried" my data, beyond retrievable, I mean. I was surprised that the Essential stock recovery didn't even have a way to install update.zip? That way us non-rooted folks can always save our rescue zips on our computers and see if there was a way to sideload the zip through the stock recovery... Oh well, either there is a way, or I didn't know and couldn't get enough help in time in the middle of the night. I needed my phone working in the AM...

I have had 7.01 when I got the phone yesterday. Went to 9 same day and I can't watch a video. Speed test shows 1.2 M down 2.3 up. I checked other devices and they are showing 70 down and 10 up

My Essential didn't even see my 5Ghz network on 8.1, but I just updated to 9, and now everything is good. Getting 72mbit on a 75mbit connection, too.

On 9.0 rooted with ex kernel on 5ghz ac 866mbit no issues at all... I get 40 megabytes a sec on my wifi.. I have 65 megabytes a sec with my current isp. I why straight to 9.0 phone was on 7.1.2 when I got it a few days ago.
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I just did the see 5th security patch update while already on P. My ph1 has never been able to connect to my Xfinity 5ghz channel. Actually, it will sometimes connect, but says 'connected (no internet)' then drips connection. So it's ALWys had trouble with that. My HTC 10 does not, my V30 does not, my M7 does not.
Since the 9/5 update, even my 2.4ghz channel is crazy slow. I get about 3mbps down with my case on. Took off case and get 15mbps. Verified thru multiple tests. My V30 gets 63mbps on same 2.4 channel.
Anyone have this situation? I can't seem to find any further settings in wifi settings to try to see if a setting is wrong.
Does the ph1 just have the worst wifi radio ever? Or is there somewhere in setting that I can change something that I just haven't found? Much thanks.
Stock. Not rooted, no custom kernel,etc. I've been hesitant to root this device because of the A/B slots confusing me a little and just don't have the time currently to really dig into it.

I've the same problem with 5GHz wifi... Connection is very poor. Automatically reconnect to 2,4GHz network. My iPhone 6s didn't problem with this. I don't know, how fix it.

Xfinity routers suck. That said my PH1 connects just fine to my Linksys 5ghz AC channel. Works all over my house and only switched to the 2.4 GHz when I go outside.

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Xfinity routers suck. That said my PH1 connects just fine to my Linksys 5ghz AC channel. Works all over my house and only switched to the 2.4 GHz when I go outside.
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What are you guys using to confirm throughput? I'll be testing my replacement (recording audio issue with the one I purchased) when it gets in.

I do file transfers from my PC to my phone and back again and measure the time vs size of file. Over the local network obviously.

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Xfinity routers suck. That said my PH1 connects just fine to my Linksys 5ghz AC channel. Works all over my house and only switched to the 2.4 GHz when I go outside.
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I've Tp-Link Archer C1200 with 5GHz and wifi AC. Other devices like a MacBook Air, iPhone 6s and ZTE Axon 7 works perfect with this router on 5GHz and AC speed. I think, that problem is with my Essential Phone.