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[Q] Change Launcher?

Hi guys, the flipout is now very cheap indeed in the UK (it's around £50 with Orange PAYG). I managed to lose my previous phone under a train and so I've been looking at this.
Is it worth picking up this phone? I gather from looking at the posts that it can be unlocked and rooted.
Some (noob) questions:
1) Can the phone be unlocked for free? Can it be done by debranding it?
2) Can you install a different launcher? A search on the forum doesn't say anything about changing the launcher.
3) Can you get rid of Motoblur? i've never used it but it sounds ****.
Thanks in advance guys

1. dont know!
2. Launcher Pro is very nice. many thinks can be changed and its very fast!
3. dont try the motoblur free versions of the flipout..there are many bugs with connection and akku standby! i have the italian rom installed with the update of 1.19.2 and i ignored motoblur. i have deleted all widget with motoblur and use the widget of the launcher pro which can also connect to facebook, twitter...and in my opinion your contacts will be clean..if you use motoblur it will add facevook contacts to your normal conntacts...

Yeah, LauncherPro and ADW work perfectly for me, just make sure to delete all of Motoblur's widgets and ****. Juicedefender Ultimate helps as well, for saving battery.

I got some issue with Launch pro.
When I press home button to return from some apps, the screen turn black and the status bar rotate to the side of the screen, and after probably 300ms, it turns back.
Not a big issue, but pretty annoy. Using ADW launcher without any issue. Much smoother than the stock launcher.

I'm back to the stock Launcher. My problem was that with any other Launcher, from time to time a process called "android.process.acore" would start eating cpu.

Schallstoerer said:
3. dont try the motoblur free versions of the flipout..there are many bugs with connection and akku standby!
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Could you explain a bit more? What are the problems? I have the moto free firmware installed. Problems I heard about are
1. something about not using all channels, which can be solved by modifying a file on /system/etc
2. Whenever you install a new firmware, the battery meter gets out of sync and need to be reset. There is an app on the market for doing that.
Are these the problems you are referring to, or are there others?
Thanks!

@ ghostwheel
ya, these are the problems! and you´re right..it can be fixed. i only wanted to say that you can use the original firmeware without motoblur by ignoring it. so you dont have to fix anything and you can use the 1.19.2 update. sry for my bad english =/

ghostwheel said:
Could you explain a bit more? What are the problems? I have the moto free firmware installed. Problems I heard about are
1. something about not using all channels, which can be solved by modifying a file on /system/etc
2. Whenever you install a new firmware, the battery meter gets out of sync and need to be reset. There is an app on the market for doing that.
Are these the problems you are referring to, or are there others?
Thanks!
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Hey ghostwheel
if tried the motoblur free version now.
to use alle awailable channels i have to modifi the baseband file, right!?
which app do you mean for reseting the battery?

Having launcher lag or redraw after exiting app? (fix inside, works in any launcher)

just put this line at the bottom of build.prop file (under /system/)
Code:
#force launcher into memory
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
reboot -> profit
the redraw/lag basically caused by Android auto kill program to free memory, when memory is low android kills the idle tasks/apps.
This line basically just force your launch in memory, prevent the auto kill process accidently killed the launcher hence the launcher don't need to redraw/reload after you exit some memory hog apps.
enjoy this simple fix
If you experiencing anything you don't like after this fix/tweak, you can always delete this line and reboot to revert back the original state.

I just posted today about this issue. God it bugs me. I'm not rooted, so I can't do this. But I really don't think I SHOULD need to do this with 1 gig of ram! The funny thing is that this has ONLY happened on LB1, I didn't have this on ANY Of the other ROMs I've used. Strange.

zkyevolved said:
I just posted today about this issue. God it bugs me. I'm not rooted, so I can't do this. But I really don't think I SHOULD need to do this with 1 gig of ram! The funny thing is that this has ONLY happened on LB1, I didn't have this on ANY Of the other ROMs I've used. Strange.
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maybe you consider rooting ? Zerg root don't increase count nor yellow triangle and easily undone.
roots really open up the possibility in Android but it's personal preference tho, so it's all up to you
Note has 1GB ram but only has 800 something after OS and stuffs and usually left 300-400MB free ram after cold boot.
if you have A LOT of apps installed and running in background. really doesn't surprise me left 1xx MB of free ram after few hours of use.
I didn't have any launcher redraw before ICS leak + nova launcher too but it does have now ,so needed the solution

I use GoLauncher and there is a setting that allows the launcher to stay in memory called "System Persistent". I believe ADWLauncher and LauncherPro also have a similar setting. It sounds like your tweak would not be necessary for these launchers.

After I edit this and reboot, the build.proc seems to be reverted to the original file. Does anyone know why it's doing that?
I have CF-root with AbyssNote 4.2 kernel if this matters.

hp79 said:
After I edit this and reboot, the build.proc seems to be reverted to the original file. Does anyone know why it's doing that?
I have CF-root with AbyssNote 4.2 kernel if this matters.
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did you give write permission at /system in rootexplorer?

darkinners said:
did you give write permission at /system in rootexplorer?
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Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to edit it in the beginning. I also double checked that it's been saved by reopening it. But somehow it gets reverted back when I reboot.

Wow!!!
This worked for me on both Adw and Go Launcher.
After adding the script, no more lag or redraw with the launchers.
Thanks.
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this doesn't seems to work on ice cream sandwich.

The new Apex beta includes this option now too.

i have same pb in ics rom with lpY samsung note ics stock root.
i modifie my build and i have same pb grrr
have you other solution ?

Same problem here, fix didn't work sigh..I have posted in apex thread and emailed dev for advice. Any other help would be appreciated! (only happens with APEX and no other launcher)

I have been having serious lag in Apex when screen rotates..seems worse lately and it looks like im gonna have to find another launcher

I have just tried FTL Launcher, it is extremely fast !

I had the same slowdowns when I was using an app (like Gtalk for instance) and then used the home button to return to the desktop. I fiddled around and also "Keep in Memory" option of Apex and although it seemed to work, the problem came back.
In the end I decided to freeze the TwLaucher and I never had the problem again. Octavian90 tried this but so far didn't help
So no clue on what is buggin' Apex
hth2813 said:
I have just tried FTL Launcher, it is extremely fast !
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worth considering as a replacement if only it was possible to use 7 icons in the dock (I know, I only have been using it since Apex, but I love it! It will be hard to go back to 5, just as it would be hard to go back to a phone with <5.3" screen )

Weird thing is, Apex launcher is keep itself in memory just ok, but widgets seems to be reloading and redrawing every time i exit from other full screen aps.
Is there a way to fix it?

After applying this..i got soft brick.. Can't boot. And someone said its because of Wrong permissions on the file.
Reflashed my gb Rom on pc odIn and Redo all my rooting procedure.
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hp79 said:
After I edit this and reboot, the build.proc seems to be reverted to the original file. Does anyone know why it's doing that?
I have CF-root with AbyssNote 4.2 kernel if this matters.
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I know this thread is old, but this might help others who, like me, have come to it late.
I had the same problem – rebooted and the line wasn’t there. Fix it by installing Build Prop Tweaker (I have Pro, but should be OK with Lite), get to the prop tweaks (icon, bottom right) and scroll to Launcher Tweak, open and click ‘Add’
Seeder and Optimus for Root are pretty useful apps for this issue.
Cheers to Darkinners

The new Apex beta includes this option now too.

I can't believe they didn't fix this...

One thing that annoyed me deeply under Gingerbread was the fact that I would carefully arrange my apps icons along the apps pages, as I needed them to be, only to find out, a couple of days later, that the system "rearranged" some of them by its own will.
I struggled with this a bit and then just gave up thinking that the move to Honeycomb would solve the problem.
It didn't!...I am having the exact same problem with this new 7.7
Is there a solution to this?
It is kind of critical that icons stay where we want them to when their number starts to proliferate...This is exactly the kind of thing that can give Android a bad name, in what respects to user-friendliness......I don't think iOs suffers from a shortcoming as basic as this one...
XK

Are you using a different launcher or still TouchWiz? If you aren't try any of the better known launchers (i'm using Go Launcher HD).

miiike said:
Are you using a different launcher or still TouchWiz? If you aren't try any of the better known launchers (i'm using Go Launcher HD).
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I am staying with TW until ICS comes around...I intend to change it afterwards.
Am I to understand that this specific problem is "launcher-dependent" ?
Thanks!
XK

In my experience, the icon self-rearrangement happened when I go to the "My apps" or "Frequent" pages. In other words, as long as I remain in the "All" page, the icons seem to stay without this self-arrangement.

I use a program called appzorter for this. It works well in keeping the TW launcher and my sanity.

robroy90 said:
I use a program called appzorter for this. It works well in keeping the TW launcher and my sanity.
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Ah...Thanks!
I'll give it a try.
XK

XDAKhan said:
I am staying with TW until ICS comes around...I intend to change it afterwards.
Am I to understand that this specific problem is "launcher-dependent" ?
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From what i've noticed. The app drawer is part of the launcher, so it would reason why I haven't seen it happen in the other launchers i've tried (I also noticed this in TouchWiz with the Tab 7 Plus I tried before going to the 7.7).
If you are willing to switch to a different launcher after ICS, I strongly suggest you try before hand. If nothing else, it doesn't hurt to try, they can be easily removed.

robroy90 said:
I use a program called appzorter for this. It works well in keeping the TW launcher and my sanity.
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Under description, it says "Honeycomb devices are not supported yet."

ikeny said:
Under description, it says "Honeycomb devices are not supported yet."
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No, it seems to work ok, under HC...
It sorts out the apps in alphabetical order and further allows to group them into separate "System" and "Installed" groups, if wanted.
For the moment, it will do...
(Thanks Robroy90!)
XK

There came a point for me where the app drawer was not useful due to all my apps. Instead I use folder organizer and put my apps in specific folders.
Originally i put those folders on my desktop/docks but realized they were redundant after i added them to a SwipePad panel.
Now my desktops and docks are less cluttered and i only need to swipe in from the side of the screen to get instant access to my apps organized in those folders. I ignore my drawer now.

Nova Launcher Crashes About Once Per Day

I'm experiencing random crashes of Nova Launcher, running Nova Launcher Prime on A2016U with B29, no root. I'm not seeing a pattern, sometimes it crashes on fingerprint login, sometimes just in the middle of use. A thread suggests removing native widgets so I'm trying to do without the ZTE weather widget that comes with it, which is too bad because I like it, although beautiful widgets offers several nice alternatives. There are dozens of threads on Nova crashes, though mostly for older versions of Android.
I really like the increased density of Nova, and the crashes are just annoying enough to make me question using it. Anyone have insight into Nova crashes.

Using Action 3 launcher here. No problems at all.

I've always used Nova Prime, I'm on B29 as well. I only just rooted today, but I've never had a single crash, regardless of what widgets I've used.
It doesn't seem to me that Nova Prime is the problem.

I'm running Nova Launcher (Prime) and have been since day one, when the phone was 100% stock. Once the unlocked bootloader and root came out, I've been rooted ever since and have used it on stock rooted and the two "de-bloated" ROM's here and have never had it crash.

tele_jas said:
I'm running Nova Launcher (Prime) and have been since day one, when the phone was 100% stock. Once the unlocked bootloader and root came out, I've been rooted ever since and have used it on stock rooted and the two "de-bloated" ROM's here and have never had it crash.
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Ok couple things to do should solve it, First under Nova settings advanced make sure aggressive desktop is checked/toggled on.
And screenlock method check device admin.
Then under phone settings>Security>Device Administrators check Nova Laucher.
And lastly under power manager>power management for apps make sure to turn off all 3 of the toggles for both nova laucher and nova laucher prime if you have it.
That should solve it if not the i'm at a loss.

And lastly under power manager>power management for apps make sure to turn off all 3 of the toggles for both nova laucher and nova laucher prime if you have it.
That should solve it if not the i'm at a loss.[/QUOTE]
Hi there @nujackk.
Thx for the advice. I have problems with Nova crashing randomly too after switching to Nougat. I'm on LeeDroid custom Rom and the Rom is solid as a rock ... but I'm not sure which 3 toggles you are talking about, because I don't find these three toggles in my power management - can you please guide me in the direction of where to find it?
Thx in advance, mate
\Bud

Bud Horn said:
And lastly under power manager>power management for apps make sure to turn off all 3 of the toggles for both nova laucher and nova laucher prime if you have it.
That should solve it if not the i'm at a loss.
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Hi there @nujackk.
Thx for the advice. I have problems with Nova crashing randomly too after switching to Nougat. I'm on LeeDroid custom Rom and the Rom is solid as a rock ... but I'm not sure which 3 toggles you are talking about, because I don't find these three toggles in my power management - can you please guide me in the direction of where to find it?
Thx in advance, mate
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Hey bud. The toggles I'm referring to all probably not present in leedroid. They are part of ZTE's miflavor. In US version it's power management and other versions referred to as miassist or something like that.
One thing I realized I forgot to mention in other post is to be sure to select Nova Launcher as default launcher. Can't tell you how many times that little detail has gotten me.
But the aggressive desktop, and device admin should solve problem most of the time.

nujackk said:
Hi there @nujackk.
Thx for the advice. I have problems with Nova crashing randomly too after switching to Nougat. I'm on LeeDroid custom Rom and the Rom is solid as a rock ... but I'm not sure which 3 toggles you are talking about, because I don't find these three toggles in my power management - can you please guide me in the direction of where to find it?
Thx in advance, mate
\Bud
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Hey bud. The toggles I'm referring to all probably not present in leedroid. They are part of ZTE's miflavor. In US version it's power management and other versions referred to as miassist or something like that.
One thing I realized I forgot to mention in other post is to be sure to select Nova Launcher as default launcher. Can't tell you how many times that little detail has gotten me.
But the aggressive desktop, and device admin should solve problem most of the time.[/QUOTE]
Hi again @nujackk
Ok, thats why I cannot see them - thx a lot. I've tried the other things you suggested and I'll see in a couple of hours if it works as Nova usually crashes within a 2 hour cycle on my device ... I've removed the battery saving feature too, so I hope this should solve it - I just love Nova but it irritates me quite a lot that I have to make at hot reboot every second hour or so .
Thx again, mate.
\Bud

Bud Horn said:
I'm on LeeDroid custom Rom and the Rom is solid as a rock ..
\Bud
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Is this LeeDroid for the Axon 7, or HTC device in your sig? If for the Axon 7, where did you find it?

tele_jas said:
Is this LeeDroid for the Axon 7, or HTC device in your sig? If for the Axon 7, where did you find it?
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No, mate.
It's for HTC devices and it's so awesome... Lee is an amazing dev.
/Bud
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Bud Horn said:
No, mate.
It's for HTC devices and it's so awesome... Lee is an amazing dev.
/Bud
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
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Yeah, I used LeeDroid on my HTC M9. Great ROM, but too many issues with my M9 (went through 5 of them in less than 3 months, all had hardware issues)..... and the 10 didn't have front firing stereo speakers, that's why I went to a Nexus 6P, and now I'm using the A7 now.

Mobile Data shortcut, updates.

Hi.
I don't know if I'm in the right place because I'm in canada and have the 900w8 (with Wind/Freedom) but anyway, just bought my Note 3 recently and I see no Mobile Data shortcut on the Notification panel and it seems this was a common problem after some update and I couldn't find any fixes for this. Also, the phone has Android version 5, which I know isn't the latest version but looks like there will be no updates for us.
So, any way I can get the Data shortcut, or maybe the android 6 version? My phone is stock everything.
Thanks.

Electroman365 said:
Hi.
I don't know if I'm in the right place because I'm in canada and have the 900w8 (with Wind/Freedom) but anyway, just bought my Note 3 recently and I see no Mobile Data shortcut on the Notification panel and it seems this was a common problem after some update and I couldn't find any fixes for this. Also, the phone has Android version 5, which I know isn't the latest version but looks like there will be no updates for us.
So, any way I can get the Data shortcut, or maybe the android 6 version? My phone is stock everything.
Thanks.
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Can you post a screenshot of the tiles you are getting on your phone?

ShaDisNX255 said:
Can you post a screenshot of the tiles you are getting on your phone?
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Thanks for the reply, Shadisnx.
Screen shots showing no Mobile Data shortcut exist.

Electroman365 said:
Thanks for the reply, Shadisnx.
Screen shots showing no Mobile Data shortcut exist.
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I am surprised that it does not show
I found a screenshot of Lollipop and it does show the mobile data shortcut.
Best I can tell you is to flash with Odin stock 5.0, but other than that, I do not know how you could fix it. Or just root it and try a custom ROM if that is something so important to you.

Thanks again for the reply and the suggestions, man. Yeah I don't know why this is happening with the Note 3s but like I said this was a common problem after some update. I've never rooted or flashed any phone and I don't know if I want to do this. So, looks like I have to live with this inconvenience. It also looks like I won't be able to swipe down to access shortcuts unless I unlock the screen. On my Moto E (Android 6) I'm able to do that without having to unlock the screen. That's another inconvenience.

Electroman365 said:
Thanks again for the reply and the suggestions, man. Yeah I don't know why this is happening with the Note 3s but like I said this was a common problem after some update. I've never rooted or flashed any phone and I don't know if I want to do this. So, looks like I have to live with this inconvenience. It also looks like I won't be able to swipe down to access shortcuts unless I unlock the screen. On my Moto E (Android 6) I'm able to do that without having to unlock the screen. That's another inconvenience.
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Is that the case? I am not on stock anymore, but I think I remember it was possible if I just had the lockscreen to "swipe".
But then again, it could be a difference between Android 5 and 6
Flashing is an intimidating task and requires a lot of research but not as much as you may think.
Anyway, I'm not going to grind on that suggestion. Best I can tell you now is, enjoy your Note 3 experience

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Is that the case? I am not on stock anymore, but I think I remember it was possible if I just had the lockscreen to "swipe".
But then again, it could be a difference between Android 5 and 6
Flashing is an intimidating task and requires a lot of research but not as much as you may think.
Anyway, I'm not going to grind on that suggestion. Best I can tell you now is, enjoy your Note 3 experience
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Yeah I guess I'm stuck with what I have for now (no Data shortcut and no swiping with locked screen) but I don't know why I can't get an update (Android 6) for the Note 3.
Thanks anyways for the reply.