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Does LG make good 3G radios?

I currently own the galaxy nexus and thinking about upgrading to the Nexus 4 if it will get a stronger 3g signal. I havent owned any recent LG smartphones, my last LG smartphone i had was the Optimus One, so i have no idea how it is now. Maybe someone with an LG from 2012 esp Optimus G owners can help me out it would be appreciated. I just want to make sure i get something better than samsung's crappy radios since i live in an area with weak 3g signal.

Maybe you need a new carrier and not so much a new phone. A new phone can't make a signal any better than the towers are making.
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GiantJay said:
Maybe you need a new carrier and not so much a new phone. A new phone can't make a signal any better than the towers are making.
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Switching carriers isn't a feasible option for me right now and wouldn't make much of a difference in my area. I know the phones can only do so much with a weak signal but I've owned Samsung, HTC and Motorola smartphones and i can say without a doubt that not all phones are equal in terms of signal reception.
My Atrix has one of the strongest signal in any phone that i used unlike my Captivate or gsm Galaxy Nexus. I've read that Motorola uses two antennae which make their phones the best for signal reception. I was hoping Motorola was going to make the next nexus. Blackberry also makes very good radios too. I dont have much experience with LG and was wondering how their phones stack up.

My previous phone to the gnex was an LG myTouch Q. I used it on the same T-Mobile account in the same area under the same conditions. It does have better reception than the gnex. Whether that will also be true of the Nexus 4, I can't say.

Nexus 4 vs. HTC One X+ (AT&T)

I currently have the Nexus 4 16GB on AT&T and the lack of LTE is starting to get to me, HSPA+ is pretty lame where I live and it's an LTE area. Thinking about replacing it with the HTC One X+.
The One X+ is starting to get custom ROMs and there's work being done on an ASOP ROM for the pure Android experience.
Anyone here who went the other way, from the HTC One X, One X+ or another AT&T LTE phone to the Nexus 4?

I went from one x to N4. Love it, wouldn't go back... But I have been getting 8-12 Mbps down on HSPA+ (they just switched on LTE last month here in Denver.... Before that I was lucky to get 4Mbps down on HSPA+).
I tried out the One X+ in store, much quicker and more storage than the One X (probably due to JB).
Still, won't go back. Love the N4! Keep in mind, I be going to AT&T prepaid in March, so no LTE doesn't matter for me... Plus, I've been getting upwards of 12Mbps with this phone.
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My main problem is not so much the speed, though I've only seen it go up to about 6Mbps (I do use the "phone" APN, so it's not the APN setting), but rather the signal which is pretty crappy here in tmy area. I'm hoping that LTE would have better coverage.
Otherwise the N4 is a sweet phone. Would it really have killed them to throw an LTE chip in there that users could turn off if not interested in LTE? Well, OK, I know there's an LTE chip in there that works only on some band in Canada. I guess I can move to Canada (or to a better HSPA+ area).

The One X+ might look great now, but also remember that when the next tegra phone HTC puts out that blows the One X+ away you will no longer get support from HTC. The N4 gives you the feeling that you could keep the phone for 2 years or more and not have to really think you are going to be left behind at all. Look at the Nexus One i am pretty sure that still has Dev support and how old is that phone. Over all i feel the N4 is one of the best choices right now to have. If you really want LTE change to T-Mobile so you can get good HSPA+ right now and get LTE in 6 months when they have that out. LTE that is with changing settings I also give up on NV when it comes to phones. Look at the Tegra 2 it hasn't gotten anything since the Tegra 3 has been out. Its not like computers where NV supports their stuff for years. When you look at the Tegra Apps most if not close to 90% of them are Tegra 3 only which is BS. Thanks NV for leaving my Xoom behind.

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My main problem is not so much the speed, though I've only seen it go up to about 6Mbps (I do use the "phone" APN, so it's not the APN setting), but rather the signal which is pretty crappy here in tmy area. I'm hoping that LTE would have better coverage.
Otherwise the N4 is a sweet phone. Would it really have killed them to throw an LTE chip in there that users could turn off if not interested in LTE? Well, OK, I know there's an LTE chip in there that works only on some band in Canada. I guess I can move to Canada (or to a better HSPA+ area).
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Keep in mind, an LTE chip would have likely increased the cost of the phone. Sure people would have still bought, but they might have been trying to hit the price points they did. Plus the HSPA+ is more ubiquitous across the world than LTE.
Fwiw, I'm getting better signal with this phone than I did with my one x.
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So how does it work with something like the One X+ and the efforts that are under way for AOSP custom ROMs? Can they keep moving forward from Jelly Bean when Google releases the next Android version or do they needs some sort of support from HTC in terms of drivers and other closed source components? I'm not asking about the Sense UI, just the feasibility of having the next Android version work on the One X+. Looks like the current custom ROMs are all based on 4.1.1

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559
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I would get N4 because it is looks faster than OneX+ and will get updated faster. But I have no mobile coverage in my area so I have to go with AT&T

How good is the radio in the new moto x?

Just wondering how reception is, specifically as compared to the 2013 moto x. I'm thinking of making the jump, but there are a few areas that I go that have very poor signal. The 2013 always had good reception, just wondering if the new model lives up to that.
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T-Keith said:
Just wondering how reception is, specifically as compared to the 2013 moto x. I'm thinking of making the jump, but there are a few areas that I go that have very poor signal. The 2013 always had good reception, just wondering if the new model lives up to that.
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I can honesty say without a doubt I get way better signal with this phone then I ever did with any of my Samsung phones.I can drive to work 30 mins away in the boon docks and not drop a call with this phone,my note 3 dropped calls at least 5 times making the same trip.I would say it's safe.

T-Keith said:
Just wondering how reception is, specifically as compared to the 2013 moto x. I'm thinking of making the jump, but there are a few areas that I go that have very poor signal. The 2013 always had good reception, just wondering if the new model lives up to that.
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I moved from the LG G2. It got better reception than my various friends Samsung phones. This phone is better than the G2. This was a big reason I can't back to Motorola. I'm glad I did.
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I believe that the wifi connection is a bit weak. At work there are some corners where the wifi connection breaks off with the moto X style but the nexus 6 i used before didn't have that problem

I have LTE in places I only used to get 3g on my G3. It's on par with the the 2013 X.

I'd say a tad worse than the 2013. That first moto x and my Nexus 5x have the best radios I've ever had in a device.

Definitely better than the 6p (by 1 bar on average) and my old galaxy S4, for what it's worth.

It's better than my galaxy note 4, when I'm in the lecture building I normally get no service by I somehow get service with this phone.

Ya its better than the 6p but not as good as the nexus 6 I'm hoping a new radio will fix that. It's kind of funny seems to hold on to 3g maybe because the 3g sig is stronger than 4g at points either way its no slouch.

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Ya its better than the 6p but not as good as the nexus 6 I'm hoping a new radio will fix that. It's kind of funny seems to hold on to 3g maybe because the 3g sig is stronger than 4g at points either way its no slouch.
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Thanks for that information. I was wondering how reception was on 6P. That is a big reason I went back to Moto.

Hucklefard said:
I can honesty say without a doubt I get way better signal with this phone then I ever did with any of my Samsung phones.I can drive to work 30 mins away in the boon docks and not drop a call with this phone,my note 3 dropped calls at least 5 times making the same trip.I would say it's safe.
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This radio is awesome. Way better than my previous Samsungs.
I'm getting LTE in places my Samsung would be stuck in 3g.
Samsung =cheap components
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Agreed. Had a Note 3 before this and it literally sucked signal wise. This thing I get signal everywhere, it's great. Cannot beat Moto radios...

At&t reception, I still feel it's better than other phones?

Just spend the day at the lake yesterday, on a dock...Usually I'm lucky to get any reception at any place in that area, but I was able to walk up on the hill and get LTE where no other phone has ever gotten it, even just a few weeks ago and again 2 months ago.
I see a lot of people saying the reception isn't good, but I feel it's better than any other phone I've had to date? Regardless of what the signal bars show or the db shows, I can get signal where I never have before.
Just sayin'

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tele_jas said:
Just spend the day at the lake yesterday, on a dock...Usually I'm lucky to get any reception at any place in that area, but I was able to walk up on the hill and get LTE where no other phone has ever gotten it, even just a few weeks ago and again 2 months ago.
I see a lot of people saying the reception isn't good, but I feel it's better than any other phone I've had to date? Regardless of what the signal bars show or the db shows, I can get signal where I never have before.
Just sayin'
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I think the Wi-Fi and cellular reception problems are in the european model - I had great reception with B20 software and the B27 update made it even better

tabletalker7 said:
I think the Wi-Fi and cellular reception problems are in the european model - I had great reception with B20 software and the B27 update made it even better
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This is a good point. It might be helpful if people would include which specific region model they are using. My reception is definitely on par with my Note 3 on AT&T in the USA (USA model).

celticchrys said:
This is a good point. It might be helpful if people would include which specific region model they are using. My reception is definitely on par with my Note 3 on AT&T in the USA (USA model).
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My Axon 7 blows away my Zenfone 2.

My axon 7 beat the pants off my Nexus 6p when I tried using speedtest.net. Both wifi and lte were significantly faster. Also using the US model. B27 seems to have improved things even further. No complains at all!

I'm using A2017U in europe, LTE band 3. My previous phone was Xperia Z and comparing Axon 7 to it, cell and wifi reception is better in any way of using (2.4 and 5ghz, 3G and LTE). So no problem with wifi and cell reception on mine A2017U. Very satisfied.

Ditto
celticchrys said:
This is a good point. It might be helpful if people would include which specific region model they are using. My reception is definitely on par with my Note 3 on AT&T in the USA (USA model).
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Ditto on both points. I also previously used the Note3 and I get a super signal with the Axon 7, even in places where the Note was hit/miss. Love the phone.

Troll thread. It's obvious that a sizeable minority of owner have reception problems and telling people that 'I'm alright Jack' is unhelpful at best and smug and weird at worst.
Idea for another thread:
Lots of smartphone owners complain of easily cracked screens. I threw mine under a bus and it's fine.

tele_jas said:
Just spend the day at the lake yesterday, on a dock...Usually I'm lucky to get any reception at any place in that area, but I was able to walk up on the hill and get LTE where no other phone has ever gotten it, even just a few weeks ago and again 2 months ago.
I see a lot of people saying the reception isn't good, but I feel it's better than any other phone I've had to date? Regardless of what the signal bars show or the db shows, I can get signal where I never have before.
Just sayin'
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I don't agree, not as good as my Moto X or my Idol 3 on band 17 LTE or HSPA 850mhz. It's the lower bands it has an issue with.
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I have good reception for LTE in most places. WiFi is very good. However, when it comes to radio signal for LTE this is the worst phone of all that I have ever owned. I do not get involved in all sorts of tests but according to the Signal strength mine is usually about -5 higher than all the others. It is acceptable in most places as I live in a large city with good reception on AT&T. However, as I related on the ZTE forum I was at an assembly the other day and I was the only person with an Axon 7 in the whole place. Every other person had either an iPhone (most popular) or some other Android like a Samsung Galaxy. In the outer hallway I had a good signal, but when I went into the main auditorium all I got was a flashing red notification light letting me know that I had ZERO signal, while my wife's Moto X Pure and my daughters shattered iPhone 6 both had very good reception. The Moto is on T-Mobile and the iPhone is on Verizon. I do not think the carrier had anything to do with this issue. Clearly there is a problem with the Axon 7 when it comes the LTE signal strength. I am beginning to think it may be hardware related somehow and unable to be repaired with a software update ...unless they boost the signal strength through software which will also take a toll on battery longevity. Maybe they have the antennas positioned poorly inside the phone?? So I am trying to patiently wait to see what ZTE accomplished with their next update. But if they cannot fix the LTE signal strength then I will have no choice but to move on to another phone. Even though most of the time I am using WiFi, having a phone that cannot communicate in low signal areas when every other phone can, is not acceptable.

On TMO I'm getting a 2x stronger signal than my S7 Edge. Quite impressed. The Wi-Fi signal is much stronger also. I can stream music in my shed from the Wi-Fi ap in the house. The S7E couldn't even detect the signal.

Feeling about the 6t on Verizon?

Can someone clarify is there is 3G coverage on Verizon? Also, what do people think about the much slower 19Mb vs normal 55Mb speeds the pixel gets? Do you think whatever may be causing the slower speed could also impact coverage area? I went from pretty hyped to pretty skeptical after reading the xda article covering Verizon use. If this worked flawlessy on Verizon it'd be a no brainier purchase but it seems like it won't.

The version Oneplus is offering directly has every band capable of covering each carrier.
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audiophizile said:
Can someone clarify is there is 3G coverage on Verizon? Also, what do people think about the much slower 19Mb vs normal 55Mb speeds the pixel gets? Do you think whatever may be causing the slower speed could also impact coverage area? I went from pretty hyped to pretty skeptical after reading the xda article covering Verizon use. If this worked flawlessy on Verizon it'd be a no brainier purchase but it seems like it won't.
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The 6T will cover all LTE bands needed to work on Verizon and it has been certified by Verizon to work as a bring your own device.. It does not have the CDMA bands for Verizon 3g service. A few reviews mention no issues with Verizon service.

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The 6T will cover all LTE bands needed to work on Verizon and it has been certified by Verizon to work as a bring your own device.. It does not have the CDMA bands for Verizon 3g service. A few reviews mention no issues with Verizon service.
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According to the Oneplus 6T spec page on the Oneplus website it does indeed have CDMA bands 0 and 1. It should work with legacy 3G Verizon coverage. This doesn't mean it does, but it should be able to...
https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs

Thanks for all of the replies but nobody has touched on xda's report of it getting 19Mb down on Verizon when the pixel got 55Mb down and the same op6t got 78down on T-Mobile. Is that not a cause for concern? Maybe I should wait for more in depth reviews?

I guess I'll find out next week when mine arrives! Been waiting for these phones to be compatible with Verizon so jumped right on ordering one.

clabern said:
According to the Oneplus 6T spec page on the Oneplus website it does indeed have CDMA bands 0 and 1. It should work with legacy 3G Verizon coverage. This doesn't mean it does, but it should be able to...
https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs
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Also from their website.

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Also from their website.
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I believe that list only shows the LTE bands supported. Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't it also list out the regular GSM bands supported for AT&T/T-Mobile if it included legacy connections (3G, etc)? I guess once more Verizon people have the phone and test we'll find out.

I ordered one this morning at 9 am to try. They have a 15 day return policy so if it only gets one band or signal sucks or something I will just return and call it a wash!

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I ordered one this morning at 9 am to try. They have a 15 day return policy so if it only gets one band or signal sucks or something I will just return and call it a wash!
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I think there is 15% restocking fee on returns...

I am in to see reviews for this phone through Verizon as well.. I am either going to get the OnePlus 6T or the Google Pixel 3. I was really excited that the OnePlus 6T would work on Verizon. But, as the OP mentioned. My excitement got dampened by the confusion if 3G will work on the OnePlus (as also mentioned OnePlus website shows bands 0 and 1 are on the phone but people are mentioning that 3G will not work) and the XDA article about much slower download speeds on Verizon with the OnePlus.
Very interested to hear hand on reviews with this phone through the Verizon network.

Ordered for Verizon so we'll see. No need for CDMA here.
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Same as many others. Currently, waiting to see reviews on how the OP6T works on VZW.

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I am either going to get the OnePlus 6T or the Google Pixel 3. .
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I was extremely excited about the pixel 3 non-xl even though the bezels are larger than almost every $800+ phone released in 2018. I forgave that as stereo speakers can be nice. Then they put the nail in the coffin by only having 4GB of RAM. I have had app refresh issues on every 4GB phone I've owned (every Android phone actually and have been using them since the OG Droid). This year was looking promising with phones having 6 and 8GB. When I heard the pixel was only going to be 4 I seriously considered buying an iPhone. I'm honestly very upset. It should be pixel 3 non-xl: 128GB with 6GB for $800 and 256 with 8GB for $900. They could even have gone $900 & $1000 or $1000 & 1100 and I would've bought one. 4GB is a deal breaker unless it was more like $500 or 600. Then I could justify buying one and just upgrading the second something better comes out.
The size of the 6t is my only downside. Love the small bezels but wish is were a 5.8-6" screen with the same resolution and bezels. Have to shrink the battery a bit too obviously.

The 6T does have CDMA. Wheter or not it works with VZW is another question.

I will know how it works with Verizon on Monday. It Shipped today with delivery of 11/5.

Ordered for Verizon today.
We'll see how it works.
I'm not that worried it should work as good as the Essential that I'm going to replace.

Ordered mine on 11/1. Should be here Tuesday but I’m hoping Monday. I think I’m more concerned about the few things I’ve read about no VoWiFi which I use a good bit during holidays with my wife’s family in the sticks.

Real world users of the 6T on Verizon are getting network speeds in the 30s and 40s, which is fine for me.

I've never done better than that on Samsung nor LG phones.