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Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
No, op2 doesn't have quickcharge built in. You might break your battery.
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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fburgos said:
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Quick charge is a built in feature which is not included in op2. So it's not possible to charge it that way.
I believe the snapdragon 810 supports quick charge, however, the OP2 designers chose not to implement it, probably due to the increase in cost associated with upgraded current handling for some parts, but that's a guess on my part.
There's usually no problem with using a larger capacity charger with your phone because they're almost always self regulating. However, it will probably not accelerate charging unless the device supports it.
No it doesn't support it.
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
nielsscholte said:
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Well maybe I should grab a 6P charger and test it
Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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I wonder if it is possible to some how forcefully enable quick charging somehow.
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Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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How is OPT circuit designed for 1A?? then why would they make a 2A charger, that makes no sense.
Fast charging on nexus devices is a capability of usb-c, not snapdragon quickcharge.
So I think we need to reevaluate this..
Somebody needs to test with a 3A nexus charger and run ampere.
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I might be wrong in something.
I used ampere to "measure" the current always tops at 1090mA but with screen on, which also drains juice from charger.
Any way you need a custom kernel like boeffla to change the mA to charge I remember it tops at 2200mA
But a 3A charger like nexus will only supply what the device is demanding (2200 mA)
Fast charging on nexus it's a feature of charger and charger circuit, remember to have a puppies a ***** (female dog) needs to mate with a dog not a cat. You might force different species they could mate but won't breed.
You need any race of dog to have puppies.
The same you need any brand of 5V/3A charger for a nexus and you will have fast charge.
Opt don't have fast charge won't harm to try but don't buy the charger just to test borrow someone's
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Opt supports 5v 2amp charging on screen off.
Quick charge (Qualcomm quick charge®) is achieved raising voltage and not amperage (up to 20 volts, in qc3) and should be both hardware-supported and software-enabled since is the phone that asks the charger for a specific power level (volts-amps couple).
The real question is: is qc hardware supported on opt, and, if yes, could it be software enabled in some way in a custom kernel or so?
nielsscholte said:
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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thanks God someone replied, it's a shame that this does not contribute to the discussion in any way
I found an article that says that you need Qualcomm PMI8994 Power Management IC and SMB1351 (as well as snap 810 SoC) to get quick charge working... I can find the first in many teardown but I can't find the second, any idea? Maybe it has been replaced by another component or is it missing at all?
krishna442 said:
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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just 1hr 50 mins???.For me it is around 3 hrs to charge from 0 to 100%
Hello,
I read in an article somewhere that the Nexus 5X has Qualcomm Quick Charge capabilities on the hardware side, but not on the software side. It also stated that this possible could be activated in the future. For the life of me I can not find the article now, but I did hop over to the tear down page that iFixit did on the Nexus 5X. Sure enough, the 5X does have the Quick Charge 2.0 chip on the logic board.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
I'm not sure what this means exactly. Isn't USB C pretty much as fast / faster than QC 2.0? Or, would QC 2.0 via USB C be even faster?
This phone will never see qc. Google is all about open standards which is why it has usbc and can charge at 3amps.
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God can people just stop with quickcharge?
The device is charging at 15W at max allready, and thats just for a short while. The majority of time charging is spent under 10W (2A).
QC is not magic and wont make a difference for N5X. My M8 with QC and the same battery capacity charges nearly identicaly as to my N5X (same battery capacity), it just goes 9v for a shorter while but the total wattage never goes above 15w for QC charger.
I feel like the desire for qualcomm quick charge is so that people can use the wall plugs and car chargers they already own because the adapters that actually support the usb c standard are few and far between or really expensive from Google, it's not about which one is better or faster.
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That chip is a power management IC with QC features, does not mean LG/Google even hooked up the wires required to use it or put in the additional components that might be nessasary to make it work. I don't think Qualcomm publicly releases data sheets so we can't know but I doubt the hardware as a whole supports it.
In case anyone is interested. I have a Quick Charge 2.0 certified car charger and it works with my 5X. It enables "Charging rapidly". Same thing with my Note 4 rapid charger. Both work fine.
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In case anyone is interested. I have a Quick Charge 2.0 certified car charger and it works with my 5X. It enables "Charging rapidly". Same thing with my Note 4 rapid charger. Both work fine.
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Hove you looked at the actual charging rate at all? Just because "charging rapidly" does not mean it is truly charging as fast as it should.
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vCoast said:
Hove you looked at the actual charging rate at all? Just because "charging rapidly" does not mean it is truly charging as fast as it should.
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I'm gonna answer this even though I don't appreciate your tone. So I'm doing it for the benefit of others. Yes it does charge at a fast rate with all three chargers (stock, Samsung Fast Charger, and QC 2.0 charger). About 1-3% per min and it slows down, as it should, when above 80%.
And "Charging rapidly" wouldn't get triggered if the power management charging circuitry didn't detect that the charger had the proper dynamic output voltages/currents, with the power output being P(t)=V(t)*I(t). Your "rapid charger" will have two pairs of output ratings for current and voltage (some have 3).
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
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I'm gonna answer this even though I don't appreciate your tone. So I'm doing it for the benefit of others. Yes it does charge at a fast rate with all three chargers (stock, Samsung Fast Charger, and QC 2.0 charger). About 1-3% per min and it slows down, as it should, when above 80%.
And "Charging rapidly" wouldn't get triggered if the power management charging circuitry didn't detect that the charger had the proper dynamic output voltages/currents, with the power output being P(t)=V(t)*I(t). Your "rapid charger" will have two pairs of output ratings for current and voltage (some have 3).
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
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I'm not trying to be mean and I did not intend to have a negative tone so I'm sorry for that, I just wanted to see the actual numbers when using that charger you mentioned and see how they compare to the OEM charger because from what I have read charging rapidly is faster than normal but has a very wide range that can trigger at much lower charging speeds than the OEM charger.
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All of my testing on "charging rapidly" indicates that the phone is charging at 2.1A, not QC 2.0.
I suspect most QC 2.0 chargers offer 2.1A charging for when an iPad is connected, to prevent the user from returning the charger because it didn't charge their iPad. Google probably exploited that by simply telling the Nexus 5X to accept the iPad 2.1A handshake, which doesn't require QC 2.0 to be enabled.
It is possible QC 2.0 is just disabled in the baseband, but considering the backlash that Google got... I suspect they would have at least committed to enabling it, if that were an option.
That makes sense thank you
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The term Logic Board is only used for Apple devices not anything else buddy
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Logic board is just another name for the motherboard.
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LG G6 has the Qualcomm Quick Charge feature built into it and a counterpart of this is the OnePlus 3T's Dash Charge Technology. My question is can the LG G6 take advantage of the Dash Charge technology if I use the OnePlus 3T's wall charger? Considering, Dash Charge is built into the wall adapter instead of being on chip inside the device like the Quick Charge. If possible I want the Dash Charge feature because of the lower temperatures while charging. Thanks
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LG G6 has the Qualcomm Quick Charge feature built into it and a counterpart of this is the OnePlus 3T's Dash Charge Technology. My question is can the LG G6 take advantage of the Dash Charge technology if I use the OnePlus 3T's wall charger? Considering, Dash Charge is built into the wall adapter instead of being on chip inside the device like the Quick Charge. If possible I want the Dash Charge feature because of the lower temperatures while charging. Thanks
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No, it's not possible. Probably at hardware level you are right, it's all focus on the wall adapter and in the thick cable (I highly dubt that as it could have some kind of specific chip) but at software level there is no way for the G6 to take advantage of this technology as it is an oppo proprietary technology.
All this afaik obviously =)
Not possible. I tried myself the same as I have op3 and g6
Testing phase 2 using LG charger plus Oneplus 3 cable
10:20Pm - 5%
11:20Pm - 77%
11:30Pm - 85%
12:00Am - 100%
From the above data I got j think it charges fast upto 80~85 or 90% then slows down to trickle mode
Fone was made sure of clearing ram from recent apps
It confuses me why a phone with a USB Type-C port would ship with a Type-A to C charging system. Beyond mere speculation, does anyone have information on why this was done? It doesn't make sense to me.
Also, has anyone tried a Nexus/Pixel type-c charger with the OP5? How are the charging speeds on those?
Thx
Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
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Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
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I've read places that OnePlus moved the fast charging tech from the phone side to the charging brick side. This is what also allows the phone/battery not to heat up during charging. It don't think the phones could handle charging at these speeds without frying the phone (phone would fry an egg) if the tech was still inside the phone.
All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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This is what really gets me. Lots of people have QuickCharge chargers from other phones over the years, and it's easily supported by the hardware OP uses.
Dash Charge and Quick Charge are different things. Each technology needs different hardware to work.
Quick Charge was created by Qualcomm and it's used by the best Android phones (Samsung, Nexus, Pixel, etc)... it's slower than Dash and manufacturers need to pay a fee to Qualcomm when they use their technology. We can find support on power banks, car chargers, usb hubs, computers, etc.
Dash Charge was created by OPPO, Oneplus parent company... I guess this and the need to save money are the two main reasons for them to use Dash over QC.
Dash is faster because it moves some hardware from the phone to the charger. This way the heat generated by the higher voltage and amperage is "stored" on the charger allowing the phone to receive more energy and charge faster. The downside is that it's almost impossible to find compatible power banks, usb cables, chargers, etc.
There is also some concerns from users about the battery life... Oneplus says there's no problem, but everyone knows that charging batteries very fast is bad for their lives... anyway, most of us don't keep the phone for more than 1 or 2 years.
Then there is the "normal" charging, used by Apple and by cheap phones and usually can go up to 5v ~ 2.4a. This is also what the OP3/3T/5 uses when we don't use the original cable+charger.
Apple for example cannot use QC because they make their own CPU and don't use Qualcomms chips. Samsung also have a different tech they use on phones running on a Exynos processor.
tl:dr:
Quick Charge: from Qualcomm, slower, the "smart" hardware is on the phone, hotter phone during charging, colder charger, way more popular;
Dash Charge: from OPPO, faster, the "smart" hardware is on the charger, colder phone during charging, hotter charger, only OPPO and Oneplus use it;
Normal charging: it's slower, there is no special hardware needed, works with everything;
Is there any power bank that supports dash charging? I'm using a OnePlus 6T and as it uses 5V-4A i.e. 20w charging, is there any power bank capable of doing that??
Thanks in advance.. ???
Just found this via a quick search: https://www.amazon.com/Sdoutech-10000-Portable-Charge-Oneplus/dp/B078K8TZQ1 no idea if
I personally would just find the highest wattage bank from a reputable manufacturer. I think anker has an 18w with usb c input which would be close enough for me.
Some days ago, I have bought the powerbank mentioned by @tocogi73R.
I tested it for a short time, because I dont need a powerbank very often, so I cannot give that much feedback. But
- Charging the powerbank is very fast
- Charging the OnePlus with that powerbank is very fast
So, as far as I can tell, the OnePlus fast charge seems to work here. However, I cannot give any feedback about long-term use or battery life of the powerbank, yet.
The problem with anker power banks is, that they only support qualcomm quick charge. And chick charge does not work for OnePlus devices, so the charging of a OnePlus device with a qualcomm quick charge powerbank is as slow as every usual powerbank.
However, you have to be clear about the fact that the Sdoutech power bank will charge other phones quite slow, which do not support oneplus fast charge. So, if you ever will buy a phone, which is not by OnePlus, this powerbank will be quite slow. So, the Sdoutech power bank will only be the best solution as long as you use a OnePlus device. But if you do, it seems the best solution.