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[Q] Difference between S-voice and Google Now

Sorry if this is the wrong place but:
What's the difference between the S-Voice from the S4 and Google Now?
I watched sum comparison videos on youtube, but they seem a little bit inaccurate. For example, it said that "google voice" can't open apps, but it can on my Nexus 4.

S voice is Samsung's own personal assistant developed for Galaxy devices . I guess it has been used in GS3, Note 2 and GS4 as well.
Google Now is vast new concept started by Google. It's more than just a personal assistant. It's like improved version of Google Voice..
for ex. if you are entering any highway, GN will warn about traffic
you are entering into a tube station, GN will alert you about the next trains lined up..
Google voice can certainly open apps.

Google now is better .S voice sucks that's the difference. Half the time s voice doesn't function right or gets s##t wrong that you ask for.
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imeem said:
Sorry if this is the wrong place but:
What's the difference between the S-Voice from the S4 and Google Now?
I watched sum comparison videos on youtube, but they seem a little bit inaccurate. For example, it said that "google voice" can't open apps, but it can on my Nexus 4.
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S-Voice is like another apps on Samsung Device that begins with "S", and i prefer to put S as Silly except Samsung
Silly apps that u can find all of them for free in play store but samsung preinstall them on galaxies device!!! on Android OS that it has its own preinstalled apps......................!
of course Google Now is better.

Ok, this is turning into a fanboys sort of thread.
Back to the OPs question:
Essentially, theyre the same thing. Its like iOS' Siri versus Google Now, theyre both designed to do the same things but by different companies
And S-Voice is part of a proprietary framework called Touchwiz, so it can only be installed on devices running a Touchwiz ROM. Google now on the other hand, relies on no underlying framework and so could be installed on any Android device, as long as the Android version supports it

thx for the reply. The reason i ask this question is i installed S Voice on my Nexus 4 from here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/26/samsung-galaxy-s-4s-s-voice-apk-now-available-to-download/
Is there any reason to have both? I just downloaded it for fun.
With further testing, it seems like the Google now can't open sum apps. Such as PPSSPP, CloudOn, Office Suite, and GTA Vice City. While S voice.apk from the S4 can do this and can do stuff like "turn off wifi" and "turn on bluetooth".

imeem said:
thx for the reply. The reason i ask this question is i installed S Voice on my Nexus 4 from here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/26/samsung-galaxy-s-4s-s-voice-apk-now-available-to-download/
Is there any reason to have both? I just downloaded it for fun.
With further testing, it seems like the Google now can't open sum apps. Such as PPSSPP, CloudOn, Office Suite, and GTA Vice City. While S voice.apk from the S4 can do this and can do stuff like "turn off wifi" and "turn on bluetooth".
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Not really, just use whichever is best for what you do, no point in really having 2 of the same sort of utility app
And obviously one will have more features than the other, it just depends on which features are most important to the user
Question, did the s-voice install properly and isnt giving you any force close issues? Strange because I was sure it would rely on the Touchwiz framework

CNexus said:
Not really, just use whichever is best for what you do, no point in really having 2 of the same sort of utility app
And obviously one will have more features than the other, it just depends on which features are most important to the user
Question, did the s-voice install properly and isnt giving you any force close issues? Strange because I was sure it would rely on the Touchwiz framework
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Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when i go to language & input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search.

imeem said:
Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when language anD input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search
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Interesting....thanks, gonna check it out now!
It would seem that it would rely on the TW framework since its an assistant sort of app...

imeem said:
Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when i go to language & input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search.
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How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?

CNexus said:
How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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Did u turn on ur wifi or data? It needs internet. Other than that, i didnt do anything

imeem said:
Did u turn on ur wifi or data? It needs internet. Other than that, i didnt do anything
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Tried with both. Could you upload yours since i know it's working? Thanks

CNexus said:
Tried with both. Could you upload yours since i know it's working? Thanks
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what phone do you have?
https://hotfile.com/dl/201722708/fd3276b/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk.html

imeem said:
what phone do you have?
https://hotfile.com/dl/201722708/fd3276b/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk.html
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Evo shift, I'm on AOSP 4.2.2 though, so it should be fine. Strangely, that's where I downloaded it from and no luck.

CNexus said:
Evo shift, I'm on AOSP 4.2.2 though, so it should be fine. Strangely, that's where I downloaded it from and no luck.
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try your evo 4 g

CNexus said:
How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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I used it for a day then got the network connection error also. Samsung (actually Vlingo/Nuance) reads the incoming device ID and blocks the connection if it's a mismatch with the device ID the app's intended to work with. Same thing happened when people were using bootleg copies of the SGS3's S Voice APK before it was released.
As for S Voice vs. Google Now I use S Voice more. To send a text message for example, Google Now opens up the recipient from the address book but you can't dictate the message, at least not from within Google Now. Same thing with e-mail. Dialing's also kind of clunky where if there are multiple options for your request you have to pick one manually. S Voice also repeats the number back before dialing where Google Now just dials and can miss digits you dictate pretty easily. Using a BT headset you can pretty much completely accomplish things hands free with S Voice while quite a few require a second manual action with Google Now.
Here are some examples
If you're in an app like the browser you also can't get Google Now to launch from the menu key because it's now serving the open application and doesn't recognize the "long press" command to open Google Now. Some people have disabled S Voice and remapped the home key to either Google Search or Voice Dialer. S Voice allows you to post to FB and Twitter too. Also, a lot of Google Now's neatest features (flight departure, package shipping, etc.) require you to use Gmail because Google's servers scrape your messages looking for pertinent data. I don't use Gmail and don't like the idea of Google's servers searching my data, even with my permission so to anyone not exclusively on Gmail certain feature don't mean very much.
Voice controls are also tied to S Voice. I use them pretty frequently; especially with the camera, music player, and to launch apps from the lock screen by voice.
I played with Google Now for a short time when I got my N2 so if it's improved or I'm being too hard on it someone speak up.

CNexus said:
How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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i think my S voice stopped working, says no network connection

imeem said:
i think my S voice stopped working, says no network connection
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It's being blocked because the device ID from the APK you downloaded doesn't match the device ID the server's reading from the actual device.

I love Samsung devices but I can't stand S voice. Unless there has been MAJOR improvement over the S3's/Note2 S voice I will still dislike it. First thing I do when I set up my Galaxy phones is disable it and get rid of the home button delay.
I think google now is better, faster, much more accurate and much more unique ( S voice is a clear copy of Siri).

barondebxl said:
I love Samsung devices but I can't stand S voice. Unless there has been MAJOR improvement over the S3's/Note2 S voice I will still dislike it. First thing I do when I set up my Galaxy phones is disable it and get rid of the home button delay.
I think google now is better, faster, much more accurate and much more unique ( S voice is a clear copy of Siri).
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Yup. HTC Speak is on its way as well.

Google search update

I just read a news article saying that the new Google search update is supposed to allow us to use the "ok Google" hotword from any screen, including the lock screen. I downloaded the apk, but can't get it to do anything different on my Verizon s5. Has anyone else gotten this to work? Does it require the phones to not be rooted, maybe?

It doesn't work for us yet. I did all the steps as well but unless it is pushed for your device it's a no go

I thought it was supposed to work with all phones. Too bad, I would have liked the lock screen functionality.

According to AP, it's being rolled out by account. So we wait.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/25/apk-download-google-search-v3-5-14-brings-ok-google-hotword-detection-to-any-screen/

I guess I missed that part. Why offer a download link to the new apk if none of the new features will work anyway?

SanguiniusWept said:
I guess I missed that part. Why offer a download link to the new apk if none of the new features will work anyway?
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They may have only realized that after the article was written and the .apk was offered. There may be other subtle things that have been improved, speed for example. I think one of the comments mention that the acknowledgement "ding" is different.

if its the one in the new android L then my rom should have it.. ill hafta check tho.. i kno i added the android l launcher and velvet.apk from android l to my rom..
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Wynnded said:
They may have only realized that after the article was written and the .apk was offered. There may be other subtle things that have been improved, speed for example. I think one of the comments mention that the acknowledgement "ding" is different.
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Other things do seem to be subtle and to work, just not the 'OK,Google' detection from any screen. When you go in to set it up, you have to say that phrase three times so it recognizes your voice. However, it never registers so you have to back out of that screen.

Any update on this? I just received the Google search update and it doesn't allow the ok Google voice command on any the screens. I still have to open the app to use the voice setting

1967ls2 said:
Any update on this? I just received the Google search update and it doesn't allow the ok Google voice command on any the screens. I still have to open the app to use the voice setting
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I got it today too. This always happens to me, I download an .apk from Android Police and usually a short time later Google Play will tell me I have an update for the same version number. So, my thought is that nothing has really changed and we are still waiting for Google as they roll the function out by account as mentioned in the article.

Thanks for the reply. Bummer

I don't know if I was late seeing this, but the search from any screen feature is available in my Google search settings now.

sprint voicemail on the 935U software

Hey, any of you root people, could you pull the voicemail apk off your phone so I can use it with my flashed universal phone? Have tried the s6 edge software but no go. Thank you

This is simple through titanium backup. No one?

The one on official firmware will not install correctly. But this is an older one that works. Download and install like normal.
https://mega.nz/#!z5sAiJKK!Ig_iEGEqYMTXfm-yRPmvsC05pgiKYlEPvonlpqXuVwk

It work for you on the U firmware?

heathmcabee said:
It work for you on the U firmware?
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Yes.

Thanks again seems to be working

Once you set up, it may take a while to actually activate. I just left the app, came back to it 5-10 min later, and it was running normally.

Ya took me almost an hr. Worked well though. Downloaded many that didn't work. Just needed 1 that did.

It doesn't appear to actually work. You all just think it is.
If you leave a vm it wont download it (or mine doesn't seem to).
If you go into settings and pref, it shows it's not verified still also. You just stopped seeing the prompt because once the screen times out it is no longer on top but if you fully kill the app and re-open it still says verifying.
These are my findings at least? If you go into settings and pref does it say you're verified?

Yeah I couldn't get it to work either

Didn't work for me either

Try this one it worked for me on my unbranded piece o sh!t locked bootloader s7 edge with the added ticking timebomb feature.
Link vvm
On a side note samsung got what they deserve for [email protected] us usa s7 owners. I hope they lose tons of money

brendan802 said:
Try this one it worked for me on my unbranded piece o sh!t locked bootloader s7 edge with the added ticking timebomb feature.
Link vvm
On a side note samsung got what they deserve for [email protected] us usa s7 owners. I hope they lose tons of money
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No dice, didn't work for me either... Did you do anything special to install it?

brendan802 said:
Try this one it worked for me on my unbranded piece o sh!t locked bootloader s7 edge with the added ticking timebomb feature.
Link vvm
On a side note samsung got what they deserve for [email protected] us usa s7 owners. I hope they lose tons of money
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Thanks seemed to work. Finally got account verification

heathmcabee said:
Thanks seemed to work. Finally got account verification
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Are you sure?
I've got the same issues all the others did. It can't activate. Just because it stops popping it up doesn't mean it's activated now either. That message suppresses after a while.
It seems to tie into something that it and Sprint Zone use from what I can tell and thus why won't work on these non-branded firmwares.
Leave yourself a VM and see if it shows up...

It usually wouldn't go past the account verification at all. I'm not 100 %sure yet. But it did go farther than before and I'm trying it out now to verify. Will get back

If you press home and go back into it the app will hide the message but it still wont work.
I actually found the outbound activation messages in it that are failing to send even.
So this is another bust.
I think our best luck is if someone can either reverse eng. this thing to modify it to not try to use whatever sprint bloat it's looking for or we find what it's looking for and find a way to put it on our phones.
Sadly it's not a new issue. All the Nexus people have had the issue from day 1. And it seems to be only sprint because they won't make a darn public compatible app.
I can't use GVoice as I already use it for a second number and I don't like any of the third party ones that make you use conditional call forwarding to them to do this...
Another question for you all. I've noticed if NO voicemail app is installed I do not get any notification I have voicemails. If I do install one (despite it not working) I get notified because it says pending voicemail download at least.
With no VM App installed are your phones telling you that you got VM?

Yeah same boat here man. Looks like we beating a dead horse

Yea, Sprint should upload visual voicemail to the Play Store like T-Mobile does. So stupid.
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Can anyone post the Sprint VM app for Nougat?
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Bixby Voice

I got my S8 today and everything seems to be working fine. Issue is however Bixby voice isn't working. I can swipe right to see the Bixby cards and also Bixby vision seems to be working(In camera app) but thats about it. No voice. Can anyone please confirm if they are having issues?
My device is from Claro Americas (http://www.claro.com.br/) and I got the unlocked code from them and using on Warid Telcom now.
ANy help would be greatly appreciated.

Bixby sends command to Samsung servers to process. Maybe the servers arent completely up and running until the S8 goes on general sale. I would do a packet sniff on the network traffic from and to your S8 and see what the server responses are

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Bixby sends command to Samsung servers to process. Maybe the servers arent completely up and running until the S8 goes on general sale. I would do a packet sniff on the network traffic from and to your S8 and see what the server responses are
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Thanks. The Samsung servers are running as I'm logged into my Samsung account and can see the apps etc. (unless you're talking about something else)

There will be hundreds or thousands of servers managing different products so the one u log in to for your account will be different than the ones used to process the bixby queries. Those ones might still be offline. My reasoning for this is that the S8 system dump had bixby which people installed on S7 and they have same issue. They reported the servers are not responding so they might have them powered down until full S8 release. Running servers costs money after all.

What language is your device set to? I think Bixby (voice) only works for US-English and Korean.

KWoods41 said:
What language is your device set to? I think Bixby (voice) only works for US-English and Korean.
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Its set to US english.

richhaynes said:
There will be hundreds or thousands of servers managing different products so the one u log in to for your account will be different than the ones used to process the bixby queries. Those ones might still be offline. My reasoning for this is that the S8 system dump had bixby which people installed on S7 and they have same issue. They reported the servers are not responding so they might have them powered down until full S8 release. Running servers costs money after all.
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Seems logical.

From my experience with Samsung in the past they do not open servers for certain thing until the devices are fully functional and shipped to users. Wait for around 7-10 days and it should activate. If not call their support. DO NOT call support now.

I think it's time that these two threads meet. ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/bixby-english-delayed-t3588155
Edit: mweinbach, I see this was actually posted by you. Thanks!

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Bixby will only support Korean voices at launch and it says US English supported by end of spring. Not sure what it means for us UK English who invented the bloody language!
Samsung Galaxy S8's Bixby voice assistant delayed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39575432

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Bixby will only support Korean voices at launch and it says US English supported by end of spring. Not sure what it means for us UK English who invented the bloody language!
Samsung Galaxy S8's Bixby voice assistant delayed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39575432
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Yep. May sometime

Bixby Vision UK update

Updated to 1.3.01.10 today . Does this mean the full program is close ?

Hi when did you get update? What csc?

Around an hour ago. BTU UK unlocked 3UK
Manually searched for updates in Samsung apps

Ok brill thanks

Bixby home just updated for me as well. I guess they are in the process of launching voice and we just have to wait for it to be turned on server side now

It says Bixby Voice on the update... Hmm

shorty_blitz said:
It says Bixby Voice on the update... Hmm
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It updates bixby voice but unfortunately it's not activated

callumbr1 said:
It updates bixby voice but unfortunately it's not activated
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It gives some hope that it's comming soon :laugh:

Yeah the same happened for the us launch. I expect it will go live tomorrow or the next day

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Yeah the same happened for the us launch. I expect it will go live tomorrow or the next day
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Hopefully it's 10 pm .. like US launch :laugh:

djisgod said:
Yeah the same happened for the us launch. I expect it will go live tomorrow or the next day
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Nope. None of the required Bixby PLM, dictation and system app updates have rolled out.
No progress.

Im in UK and just done a manual search in Apps for Bixby... I got Bixby Home v.1.9.43.04.. but thats all.. no voice

i really thought that samsung would have released bixby voice to the rest of the world (english speaking) by now.
i think that if its not out by 27th August i will change my CSC to US and get it that way.
btw that's the day b4 my birthday :angel:

To be honest i don't mind waiting i would rather them iron out any bugs than give us a buggy one plus Google assistant does a good job.

You can get bixby voice to launch whilst in the messages app however it's in Korean
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Correction if you hold the bixby button whenever you have the keyboard up

Bixby https://imgur.com/gallery/AtXa2
Update to contracts today. What's new looks interesting

I think Bixby will be launched worldwide in English in September and Samsung is updating the apps related to Bixby gradually.
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Seems like Bixby voice will launch worldwide with the note 8 in September.

Maybe tomorrow maybe next year Sooner or later Bixby will appear...

These are some new options that showed up on Bixby setting today. Bixby home version 1.9.43.4
found by; going to keyboard choosing google voice then press bixby key > full screen > then ? . it has the option of "Voice apps and services"
Voice still not active