Hi All,
This might seem like a bizarre idea but I'd like to be able to use my XDA to convert video files from uncompressed .AVI into a compressed format such as .mpg
My reason for wanting to do this is I am going Africa in a few weeks to take part in the Tour d'Afrique, an 11,800km bike race from Cairo to Capetown.
My plan is to post a video diary to my blog from internet cafes along the route. I'm going to use an online video editing site such as JayCut.com to edit the video, but the problem is uploading the uncompressed AVI files, which are huge (about 1Mb per second of video).
There are plenty of free .AVI to .MPEG converters for desktop/laptop computers, but I haven't found any for XDAs. (not hard to guess why).
Space (and weight) are at a premium, so I'd rather not take a laptop and the XDA would be ideal if I can just overcome the video compression problem. (I don't mind that it might take a while to do the conversion)
Any suggestions would be really appreciated
Cheers
Simon
You could use coolcamera from ateksoft which makes videos in small sizes... 1 min takes about 5mb with reliable quality!
Considering that video encoding takes huge amount of the pc hardware i dont think its possible to make one for a ppc! You would probably need a whole day to encode a video!
Thanks Sercio, but unless I'm missing something, coolCamera looks like a bit of software that runs on an XDA and makes better use of the inbuilt camera ?
This wouldn't really fit my needs as my camera needs to be rain and dust proof !
Since coolCamera can do compression in real time, I think XDA's can probably (hopefull) cope with doing "offline" compression, albeit more slowly.
I did find this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395600
which suggests that people are working on video conversion / compression using XDA's ?
I wonder if anyone has created a simple wrapper application for the ffpmpeg.dll's that would "just work". (it doesn't matter how simple the app as long as it can convert .avi into .mpeg)
I also realise (or think I do) that the .avi format can actually contain any number of different codecs, so nothing is ever simple ...
Thanks anyway
In the end I decided it was better to for an Asus eee PC with an additional external battery (and a solar charger). Should (might) have about 15 hours of battery life !
watch out for the lions and zimbzbwean.
by the way, where can i find your video journal when you are there?
PROBLEM SOLVED - CONCLUSION OF THREAD updated 9/3/10:
1). Coreplayer and TCPMP don't work well on my device when playing back avi (divx/xvid) because they don't support hardware accelaration, although others seem to have no problems which still confuses me. Playback is juddery dropping many frames. I have tried Shasaraks settings (which are the best) and all others with no luck.
2). Because WMP and the HTC player don't support avi (divx/xvid) converting to mp4 is the only option for me.
3). CONVERSION: I have tried many converters including: TMPGEnc.XPress, handbrake, xvid4psp, mediacoder and others. The ones that do work well for the HD2 all have the same problem and that is a delay in audio putting speech out of sync when played back on the device. Even when playing back avi's in coreplayer i had to manualy adjust the sync.
The only converter that works well and is fast and can put the audio in sync for playback on HD2 is winmenc available here (freeware) http://winmenc.blogspot.com/
Download my profile which has the audio sync tweak already in it (thanks to Kr00ton) and put it into the profiles folder. I have tweaked Kenkiller's original profile, see here for info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7&postcount=38
I have changed Kenkillers profile from 2000 to 1000 kbps to save file size and have also got rid off the 2 pass encoding to save time (and lots of it!). You also need to tick FIT TO WIDTH AND SPEED & QUALITY CONTROL AND MOVE IT TO FASTEST. I done various tests and found no noticeble difference to SD videos doing it my way. This speeds up conversion time to around 30 mins for a 700mb avi and keeps the file size about the same as the original.
If you have more time on your hands and or you are converting HD then maybe use Kenkillers original profile, although i converted HD stuff in my profile and it looked great. It all depends if file size and conversion time is an issue for you.
4). For some reason the HTC player still judders for me, i'm pretty sure it didn't do that in stock rom 1.44 but it certainly does on my 1.66 ROM leaving only WMP that performs perfectly It's a shame that it isn't very finger friendly for srolling through the video etc but i'll live with that.
I can only report my findings and experiences, you may not have the same issues i have had. Conversion may wield different reults on other OS's. I'm using windows 7 64 bit and can confirm that when i used winavimp4 converter on xp it was perfect but used on windows 7 it puts audio out of sync. Having said that it is without a doubt the fastest converter i have come accross converting a 700mb file in around 10 mins on windows 7 64 bit. It was around 30 mins on my old xp machine.
5). I can now relax and enjoy my films on my HD2, which is the main reason i bought it!
ORIGINAL 1ST POST
I bought this phone because of its screen. I watch movies on my long journeys to work and i'm getting increasingly frustrated with the phones poor performance on playback.
Coreplayer judders with many dropped frames no matter what settings (tried shasaraks direct draw settings) or version of coreplayer i use and disabling sense and using plane mode makes no difference whatsoever. It will play flawlessly for a while then judder then be ok then judder on and on...
So i decided to convert to mp4:
coreplayer still has poor performance. HTC player was ok but since upgrading to 1.66 it's performing worse than coreplayer now (yes, i did a hard reset after flashing)
The only player that works is wmp. I now have some questions:
1). Is there an option in wmp to sync the audio manualy like in coreplayer? some films are slightly out of sync.
2). are there any other players that work well on the HD2 apart from tcpmp (tried that, same results as coreplayer)
3). CONVERSION:
What are the best settings for video conversion for the HD2? If I can't use coreplayer to play avi this is my only solution and aslo solves the problem of coreplayer not supporting ac3 audio. I'm talking bitrate etc for video and audio. If you are succesfully converting video what converter and settings do you use? PLEASE!
I tried searching but couldn't see a thread dedicated to optimum conversion settings for the HD2.
4). Could the problem lie with my 16gb sandisk sd card? i noticed another thread for the blackstone where a cab was designed to speed up the cards performance by 3 times, is there something like this for the HD2 and would me formatting it to fat 32 make any difference at all to my problem?
This is really winding me up now and i've spent hours messing with settings etc, the one function i really need and it wont perform which i find very surprising for a phone that has this super fast snapdragon processor.
PLEASE HELP ME
END OF ORIGINAL POST, PROFILE FOR WINMENC BELOW
1) no
2) none even close to that
3) can't tell, as I don't really do it much, coreplayer works well for me
4) could be, as coreplayer works well for me.
jonbaker76 said:
4). Could the problem lie with my 16gb sandisk sd card? i noticed another thread for the blackstone where a cab was designed to speed up the cards performance by 3 times, is there something like this for the HD2 and would me formatting it to fat 32 make any difference at all to my problem?
This is really winding me up now and i've spent hours messing with settings etc, the one function i really need and it wont perform which i find very surprising for a phone that has this super fast snapdragon processor.
PLEASE HELP ME
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Could well be the card, as it sounds like it gets to the end of a buffer, buffers, then continues, causing the lags.
I know that reporting my own experience is of relatively low usefullness to you as it's not step by step instructions on how to solve your problem, anyway:
1) I use TCPMP to watch AC3 audio-encoded series like frasier
2) I use Coreplayer to watch non AC3 encoded series like sex and the city
3) tcpmp is slower than coreplayer for those videos that coreplayer CAN play, I get ~120% bench for SATC in coreplayer and ~90% in tcpmp, but nonetheless I can watch everything (...that I tried until now) in tcpmp without noticing the slightest issues, and I always "zoom to fit screen", which means the video fills the entire 800x480 resolution
4) I watched videos on my old ipaq 214 as well, sure we're talking about a different device, but we're aso talking about a device with a 600MHz cpu and without an accelerated graphics subsystem (and I do have chainfire patch for the graphics subsystme of my hd2)... well I only used tcpmp on the 214 and no issue there... and I watched the whole Death note series, crappy bench results but no issues with jumps in the video
5) I have a 16gb class 2 sandisk microsd, and despite it being class 2, I get ~7mb/s transfers both ways in the sd reader of my laptop, so if we're using the same memory card, that should not be the problem...
6) probably you watch "heavy" encoded movies?
Look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5331497&postcount=38
Post Nr. 38 and download th profiles.
Use Winmenc 0.81 Beta (Freeware). Copy the downloaded profiles into Winmenc subfolder "profile".
Edit the profile like told in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5341496#post5341496 Post Nr. 32 from krooton.
Important ist to set the audiodelay.
With this solution you can get very good *.mp4 Files with audio in sync playable with Manila album or Mediaplayer.
I tried a lot of things but this was the only way to get good video with audio in sync.
Sorry, but english is not my first language.
For coreplayer i'm using v 1.3.5 build 7340 but the newer 1.3.6 build 7427 also performs the same.
What version are you guys using?
Failing that i'll format the card to fat32 to see if that makes a difference and have a look at that winmenc.
Any other suggestions are very welcome
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6) probably you watch "heavy" encoded movies?
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defo not this. I converted a film to the lowest spec audio and video wise and it resulted in 350mb file... It played the same as the 1.2g original!
I used handbreak to convert to MP4 and then used the built in player in sense.
Seemed to be HW accelerated as 45minutes of playback took about 8% of the battery charge and I would expect doing soft decode of H264 would take more than that.
Only downside was waiting 15minutes to go from 720p to iPhone profile in handbreak. I am going to experiment with remuxing
Jim
I have created a preset in handbrake specifically for the HD2 - Let me get home and post it back for you.
have been using this - converted about 20 movies and loaded up around 10 on the HD2 for a trip. All of them played perfectly in HTC album (Looks like it's hardware accelerated). Approx 4-5 hours on a single full charge (around 2 1/2 movies back to back).
Best part - converstion takes about an hour on a 4 yr old laptop - should happen much quicker on new ones.
Source files are all mkv (for Blu-ray rips) or iso (for standard DVD)
vivek310 said:
I have created a preset in handbrake specifically for the HD2 - Let me get home and post it back for you.
have been using this - converted about 20 movies and loaded up around 10 on the HD2 for a trip. All of them played perfectly in HTC album (Looks like it's hardware accelerated). Approx 4-5 hours on a single full charge (around 2 1/2 movies back to back).
Best part - converstion takes about an hour on a 4 yr old laptop - should happen much quicker on new ones.
Source files are all mkv (for Blu-ray rips) or iso (for standard DVD)
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please do mate, looks like a nice converter, if you post the sttings you are using i'll give it a bash tonight.
I don't know what is going on with coreplayer, i used it a while ago and it played lovely, about 2 drops in 10 mins. I just tried again, 11 drops in 10 seconds what does this tell us!?!?!?!?
Could also be that you have something running in the background that's using the CPU badly...
This thread is worth checking out for video settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122
A converter that is reasonably idiot-proof (although its maximum bitrate is a teensy bit too low, IMO) is MP4ForHD, which you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050 I think it lets you incorporate an audio delay into the video (thus negating the need to do it in the player).
I've bought Core PLayer and Kinoma PLay but the only one i use to play my videos and series is TCMP, its litter and complete doing its tasks.
I prefeer TCMP.
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Could also be that you have something running in the background that's using the CPU badly...
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Is what i thought but no, everything is shut down. Does the same after a soft reset. Disabling sense and using plane mode also makes no difference.
But like i say, soemtimes it works and sometimes it drops like a mother f*****
it's completely random
what i will try is another sd card, i got the 2gig one indoors, i'll put the same vid on that and report back... all rather boring but it's doing my head in and i don't like being beaten
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This thread is worth checking out for video settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122
A converter that is reasonably idiot-proof (although its maximum bitrate is a teensy bit too low, IMO) is MP4ForHD, which you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050 I think it lets you incorporate an audio delay into the video (thus negating the need to do it in the player).
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thanks, will take a look
I just don't see the point in encoding especially for a mobile device.
That's iphone madness, not ours
I've been watching videos encoded for proper pc's since when I had my ipaq hx2400 back then, after that I kept doing it with my ipaq 214, and now I am happily doing the same on the HD2. I am sure there's something that's preventing jonbaker from watchgin movies normally, and using an alternate encoder is not a "solution" but a complication. Occam would say the same.
More specific info on file size/length/codec/bitrate/tcpmp-coreplayer bench results/microsd transfer rate (tested with read/write operation in usb disk mode) would be useful.
If memory card access is causing the problem with CorePlayer then you could try increasing the amount of memory CorePlayer uses to buffer. You could also try out these registry settings which sometimes improve SD card performance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5547319&postcount=8
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If memory card access is causing the problem with CorePlayer then you could try increasing the amount of memory CorePlayer uses to buffer. You could also try out these registry settings which sometimes improve SD card performance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5547319&postcount=8
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any chance you can suggest what i increase the settings to in the coreplayer memory buffer? not sure what im doing there! wouldnt mind giving that a go.
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any chance you can suggest what i increase the settings to in the coreplayer memory buffer? not sure what im doing there! wouldnt mind giving that a go.
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I'm operating entirely on guesswork, so no, no chance at all!!! I guess it needs to still be small enough that there is no danger of running out of memory on the phone, but larger than the default value. Might not make any difference, of course, depends on what's causing the bottleneck.
Have you tried getting CorePlayer to play video and audio in the background and then opening up the task manager to see what the CPU usage is doing? That might at least tell you whether it's a lack of processing power as opposed to something else.
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Have you tried getting CorePlayer to play video and audio in the background and then opening up the task manager to see what the CPU usage is doing? That might at least tell you whether it's a lack of processing power as opposed to something else.
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RIGHT i set coreplayer to play in background: BUILT IN TASK MANAGER:
mem - 7.94m CPU sitting around 45 - 65%, then will drop to around 20% then back up to 60%
RESCO TASK MANAGER:
mem - reports 2.68m
don't know why they give different results memory wise don't think resco task manger gives cpu usage
is all that normal?
Best way to convert long recorded lecture(wav) to mp3
Finally, found a good recorder which flawlessly records my long lectures and easy transfer to pc. App name : yovisoft recorder.
But size of the recording is huge, 300mb for 2.30 hours lectures. And it gets too heavy on my sd card.
I tried audicity software to convert the wav to mp3 which gave me 200 mb mp3 file. Still huge, isn't it.
Than I directly copied wav to my lumia via mtp. As soon as i copied it prompted to convert. I selected yes, it gave 14mb file but it very dull quality.
I don't have deep knowledge of sounds/frequency/bitrates, please gave me best way of good quality and low in size (up to 25~50mb) way to convert. I have 16gb sd card.
Quick questions
1. Which is best audio format for hearing recorded lectures.
2. Which bitrates-frequency will be ideal for recorded lectures.
3. Any direct software on pc, dedicated for such jobs?
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Try audacity. It is a good converter between various formats.
He tried (and misspelled) Audacity, but he clearly didn't know how to use it because he got a huge file. Set the quality of the created file to something like 64kbps (if you use constant bitrate MP3 for voice, that's probably good enough, although MP3 isn't great for voice) and probably mono instead of stereo (halves the size, at the cost of losing the difference between right and left channels if those are present to begin with).
Actually, the fact that over two hours of uncompressed audio was only 300MB is *very* suspicious. For perspective, an audio CD (which is uncompressed, much like WAV) is only 72 minutes of audio (half of what you're trying to store) for roughly 700MB of data. Storing the amount of audio you're talking about at the quality of a CD would take about 1.5GB, not 300MB. Making it mono instead of stereo would halve that, but you're still talking a factor of 2.5x compression that isn't accounted for. Either the recording quality is very poor, or it's already compressed.
Well, the default lame encoding properties offer pretty good compression rate.
He either:
a) didn't have WAV as the original file format
b) Didn't convert to mp3 but to some lossless format.
c)messed up with the lame encoder properties.
hint: usually, bigger numbers tend to generate bigger files. The only exception is the compression rate, which only appears for lossless codecs.
Both of you guys (#2 #3) are genius.
Than thanks for understanding my typo @GoodDayToDie.
I use yovisoft recorder as i said, it gives me wav file, i dint knew all what you detected and conveyed me.
I need time to understand as my background is Accountancy Finance and Taxation.
I will do R&D and revert asap.
Thank you, i found exactly what i was looking for. Stay connected please.
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I use audiorecorder pro it records to compressed format aac.
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rumpelst said:
I use audiorecorder pro it records to compressed format aac.
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is it stable to record long lectures? About 3 hours.
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DBZo07 said:
is it stable to record long lectures? About 3 hours.
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I'm not shure about 3 hours, but it recorded without problem 1,5 hour which was something about 60 Mb. Than you have three options to share:
By creating a file server, uploading to skydrive or saving it to a phone music library and than usual way of sharing files with pc. You can try this app without paying. I'm not shure if it is stable on gdr3 as I'm waiting on my official update for Lumia 920.
Free version fails in long recording, it doesn't even show last recording.
Yovisoft is only the working one. But strange format and size.
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Try Wavepad Sound Editor. You would be able to trim any unnecessary parts and when you save it, you can set the bitrate that you want it to be.
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Free version fails in long recording, it doesn't even show last recording.
Yovisoft is only the working one. But strange format and size.
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There was an update to Instant Incognito Recorder that adressed some bugs (crashes, etc), you can try it again and see if it works, also the dev. added an option to save to music collection so you can copy recordings via USB cable.
Him, i want to record a football match with my g2 but it crates large files which i dont have the capacity to store on this phone because it only has 16 gb. With this being said i cant record a football match which has 90 minutes. It would fill all the memory available in my phone!
Is there any app that can record smaller video files ? Can i record 90 minutes without filling my phone's memory? Help me out please.
Thanks
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Him, i want to record a football match with my g2 but it crates large files which i dont have the capacity to store on this phone because it only has 16 gb. With this being said i cant record a football match which has 90 minutes. It would fill all the memory available in my phone!
Is there any app that can record smaller video files ? Can i record 90 minutes without filling my phone's memory? Help me out please.
Thanks
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you can always set a lower video recording quality to get a smaller size.
another way, you can expand the phone's storage using a USB OTG cable, but I'm not sure how to have the default camera app saving to the external storage, or you can try 3rd party camera apps.
arda99 said:
you can always set a lower video recording quality to get a smaller size.
another way, you can expand the phone's storage using a USB OTG cable, but I'm not sure how to have the default camera app saving to the external storage, or you can try 3rd party camera apps.
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setting the app to record in lower will get me 90 minutes of recording?