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Which ROM do you like most?

I don't see any comparison in this subforum.
Perhaps we can compare and discuss different ROMs
Which do you like and why?
I only really test CyanogenMod 13 and Lineage OS.

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Which ROM is best for GAMING?

Ah ah I just had the same question. I wondered why there were so many flavors of Lineage Os, and what were the difference. For the moment I have tested only stock (Alxndr's rom) and Lineage 14.1 Official.
- Lineage OS offical is great. The fingerprint recognition is lightning fast, and the rom is globally fast. There are lots of customization and options.
- Stock has however a better battery life, Ultra Power Saving Mode, camera and dialer.
I don't do gaming. However, I can tell the performance in antutu is equivalent (+/- 53.000). Stock had a better 3d score (11.000, vs 8.000 for LOS) and should do better for gaming.
My dream would be a Lineage OS with ported touchwiz framework for edge, camera, sms and dialer. Or a S7 nougat rom with ported LoS fingerprint.

I am running Vaniraosp these days.

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I am running Vaniraosp these days.
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And why

I am using LOS at the moment and it blazing quick the only thing is that my phone heats heat up!!

Resurection remix for customisation. Fast and very good battery life base on AOSP.
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AOKP seems to have everything working that i have come across and gets nightly updates i like Cr Droid but was still getting rotation issue Kltedv hopefully that will be sorted in the next update

Official linage

Tried LOS, Resurrection Remix and crdroid. LOS is good but seems so vanilla in front of RR and crdroid.
I like features. Resurrection Remix has the most features. crdroid is similar but slightly less features, but excellent battery life of all.
I switched back to RR from crdroid in the hopes of getting battery life improvement with boeffla kernel, forcedoze, hebf optimizer, but not seeing it so far. May go back to crdroid.

@freefourlife
Battery life with crDroid so much better? Any disadvantages?

derAndroidler said:
@freefourlife
Battery life with crDroid so much better? Any disadvantages?
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No. Minor additional features in RR. Planning to switch back, as I couldnt get similar battery efficiencies even with custom boeffla kernel

I feel safer and more stable with official lineage OS, but this is only illusion in my head.

freefourlife said:
No. Minor additional features in RR. Planning to switch back, as I couldnt get similar battery efficiencies even with custom boeffla kernel
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You are in for a treat for v 2.1 when it will be released. They are improving it a lot in terms of performance and battery life.

based on stock mm, great bat life, nice mods on stock SUPERLite MiNi MM *361mb*

i tested AICP, LOS and CrDroid i want to test AOKP, the most developed was AICP, but the battery life and the ram usage was the worst, but it was the better choice, all the things worked, but i prefer LOS, Crdroid it has a lot of bugs in 2.0, i don't tested the 2.1 but a few users said that the sim card is not detected so i will wait, it has the best battery life compared with the other roms but a lot of things aren't working so it's not the best thing and LOS is vanilla but with little customizations, so it's really cool, the dev's can improve the battery life but, i think that if you use LOS is ok for daily use.

I really like LINEAGE OS official. But I use custom TW roms just because I prefer TW camera . So I hope to use LINEAGE OS with ported TW framework for stock or N7 camera .

tommygun198 said:
based on stock mm, great bat life, nice mods on stock SUPERLite MiNi MM *361mb*
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Do you like TouchWiz?

dokmanXYX said:
i tested AICP, LOS and CrDroid i want to test AOKP, the most developed was AICP, but the battery life and the ram usage was the worst, but it was the better choice, all the things worked, but i prefer LOS, Crdroid it has a lot of bugs in 2.0, i don't tested the 2.1 but a few users said that the sim card is not detected so i will wait, it has the best battery life compared with the other roms but a lot of things aren't working so it's not the best thing and LOS is vanilla but with little customizations, so it's really cool, the dev's can improve the battery life but, i think that if you use LOS is ok for daily use.
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Never tested AICP, but there are daily updates I see.
crDroid has different problems I recognized that, too. And few updates.
I only have a very small test with AOKP, everything seems working.
At the moment using LineAge OS with (nearly) no bugs. Battery life is OK, but not perfect. Performance seems good, no problem at the moment.
But I'm always interested in other ROMs or interesting features etc.

derAndroidler said:
Do you like TouchWiz?
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why, you can use any launcher you like

Which Custom ROM are you using and why?

Hi All,
Since acquiring MXP back in Oct 2015, I have stayed away from rooting and flashing custom ROM (something which I did from day one on my Samsung Google Nexus) because I was more or less happy with the out of the box behavior.
But now MXP on Marshmellow has become kind of slow and ofcourse Nougat roadmap is still not clear (whether it will at all come in May).
So now I want to join the wagon.
So it would be immensely helpful if you can mention which custom ROM you are using as daily driver and why sticking to it?
My criteria is primarily smooth performance and decent battery (now it doesnt last 12 hours on full charge).
Thanks in advance
Roy

I tried almost every Nougat rom (Tesla, CM, RR, AOSiP, AOSP Extended) and finally been using AOSP Extended. I feel this is the most stable and smooth one out there. I use Greenify & GlassFish script and easily get over 30-40 hours on a single charge. I don't play any games on my phone, just some web browsing, music, whatsapp etc. It has almost all the customization available too.

Just like you I was sticking to stock
Now after the N delay, tested a few custom roms. From my experience, also in gaming, Aosip with Optimus Kernel and GlassfishCP-Optimus script have the best performance, does not overheat and has near stock battery life.
Instead of Greenify (that's behaving weird and sometimes causing wakelocks) I'd recommend Servicely.
Still not tested but also CypherOS should be worth a test run. It seems like the most stable and lighter rom on paper!

all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good

using RR M v5.7.4 + coffee kernel v2.2 + xposed +SuperSU v2.79 +SonyMusicSSE ViPER 2505 DolbyAtmos Sony Beats +Busybox 1.26.2 +MusicFX Installer and AudioFX Remover +Moto g4 Camera v6.0.20.6.

rohitpaul9000 said:
all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
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You can install Moto cameras!

dev>null said:
You can install Moto cameras!
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tried all camera apps no luck. . u cn check yourself also

rohitpaul9000 said:
tried all camera apps no luck. . u cn check yourself also
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For me the camera focus works great on aosp extended.
Sent from my Moto X Play using Tapatalk

shrey. said:
I tried almost every Nougat rom (Tesla, CM, RR, AOSiP, AOSP Extended) and finally been using AOSP Extended. I feel this is the most stable and smooth one out there. I use Greenify & GlassFish script and easily get over 30-40 hours on a single charge. I don't play any games on my phone, just some web browsing, music, whatsapp etc. It has almost all the customization available too.
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mogamycool said:
using RR M v5.7.4 + coffee kernel v2.2 + xposed +SuperSU v2.79 +SonyMusicSSE ViPER 2505 DolbyAtmos Sony Beats +Busybox 1.26.2 +MusicFX Installer and AudioFX Remover +Moto g4 Camera v6.0.20.6.
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dev>null said:
Just like you I was sticking to stock
Now after the N delay, tested a few custom roms. From my experience, also in gaming, Aosip with Optimus Kernel and GlassfishCP-Optimus script have the best performance, does not overheat and has near stock battery life.
Instead of Greenify (that's behaving weird and sometimes causing wakelocks) I'd recommend Servicely.
Still not tested but also CypherOS should be worth a test run. It seems like the most stable and lighter rom on paper!
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K.khiladi said:
For me the camera focus works great on aosp extended.
Sent from my Moto X Play using Tapatalk
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Thanks all for your replies - sorry for replying late here.
I have seen Moto G4 Plus camera and I am not too happy with its focus.
Is the same camera app used in Nougat roms as well?
I hope and guess the MXP moto camera app would still work - right?
Thanks again!

i am going to change my stock rom, which custom rom should i choose?

Hello all,
I have been using this ROM with Optimis r20 kernel and latest GlassfishCP script since last 4 days.
This is my first custom ROM in MXP, so I must congratulate the devs who have made this usable as daily driver.
Mostly has been running fine with two odd reboots from Recent screen.
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One odd observation-FB is unable to get updates, even within app when in mobile data mode. Works perfectly fine with Wifi. Otherwise mobile data works fine and other social apps work fine in mobile data mode. Any guidance if this makes sense, would help.
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This happened to me as well on almost all ROMs, in my case mms internet access point was setup instead of one which is required for internet, www to be exact for Vodafone India.
Try to switch it and you will be good to go. Alternate method is to remove proxy from access point.
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My one of the most important criteria was battery life which has not improved till now. I would still reserve my view on that as it's been only 4 days.
Camera focussing has also been same as before in stock MXP using stock Moto camera app(not g4).
Cheers
Roy.

I primarily use RR as my daily driver. Mainly because it has the most features out of all roms. I like having as much customization options as possible. Battery life is pretty good for me, and the rom is stable and performs quite well.
My second choice would be either AOSP Extended or AOSIP. Both have a lot features as well, and they're very smooth and have excellent battery life.
I don't use any mods or custom kernels.

rohitpaul9000 said:
all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
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I don't see such an issue. Maybe you have some hardware issue or a scratched lens. What ROMs did you try?

Any one facing issue with quick charge? It stopped working on my phone

AOSCP because:
-Pixel style;
-Same battery life as stock;
-No bugs whatsoever

I'm on aokp rom since early January and it has been my daily driver ever since. No sudden reboot, no app crashes, everything works fine, bluetooth, gps, moto camera, google camera (I use it only for lens blur effect). maybe someday I'll try the aoscp or the aicp roms.

Best custom ROM for LG G3?

Hello,
Since LG abandoned LG G3 (right?) and my warranty expires soon I'd like to change the ROM. Do you know any custom ROM that's as stable as the stock one? G3 is my daily driver and I don't want to experience any problems/bugs.
Unfortunately I've heard there are issues with Lineage and RR. Is that true?
Thanks.

isidorosr20595 said:
Hello,
Since LG abandoned LG G3 (right?) and my warranty expires soon I'd like to change the ROM. Do you know any custom ROM that's as stable as the stock one? G3 is my daily driver and I don't want to experience any problems/bugs.
Unfortunately I've heard there are issues with Lineage and RR. Is that true?
Thanks.
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To be honest, there are some problems with Lineage but it is still in Nightly so it is to be expected. In my opinion the best one (and the most popular) is Fulmics 6.9. It is based on the stock LG Rom and makes your G3 look like a G5 with UX5.0. I've been using it since day one and have had no problems with it at all. No bugs whatsoever.
Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk

Shifters123 said:
To be honest, there are some problems with Lineage but it is still in Nightly so it is to be expected. In my opinion the best one (and the most popular) is Fulmics 6.9. It is based on the stock LG Rom and makes your G3 look like a G5 with UX5.0. I've been using it since day one and have had no problems with it at all. No bugs whatsoever.
Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk
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Thanks you! I'll chech it out.

Fulmics 6.9 Masrhmallow and Resurection Remix Nougat with multiboot :cyclops:

For me AOSCP is very good. Stable, decent battery and no bugs.
Cheers
Sent from my LG G3 using XDA Labs

If you would like to preserve the camera quality, then stock ROMs are the way to go. The bad thing about stock ROMs is you won't have Nougat with them, and worst of all, they generally don't have as much battery life as the AOSP Nougat ROMs and feel a bit less snappier.
If you would like to have the best battery life and/or performance, go with AOSP ROMs.
From my experience, best ROMs out there for LG G3:
ROMs with LG UX 5.0:
- Fulmics ROM
ROMs with LG UX 4.0:
- Tekcafe UX4
Fulmics have a few extra options in the camera and is much more (and easily) customizable through its Fulmics Tweaks menu, but Tekcafe UX 4.0 feels more fluid and snappier. For me, the extra speed bit is not a deal breaker, but sometimes I really hate the white UI of UX 5.0 - it appears fugly and eye-piercingly-white at times!
AOSP- and CM-based ROMs:
If you want a relatively more stable Nougat release, go with Mokee or Resurrection Remix, though AOKP will also probably perform well, too.
If you can live with a few bugs and a "dark" camera when you launch the camera (you need to take a picture with the camera for once so that the brightness gets properly adjusted for the following shots), AOSP Extended or Dirty Unicorns unoffical Nougat release should also be fine. Last time I tried them, AOSP Extended and either AOKP Nougat or else Dirty Unicorns Nougat (I can't remember which is the one now) had substantially better camera performance than most AOSP ROMs out there despite the aforementioned camera auto brightness bug. The problem is this auto brightness bug really started annoying the hell out of me after some time, so I switched back to stock ROMs.
Resurrection Remix Nougat was mostly fine, but sometimes I felt that it got slowed down too much if you enabled the Power Saver or lowered the performance profile of the phone through the battery menu.
If you want an AOSP-based Marshmallow ROM, Mokee, Resurrection Remix and Dirty Unicorns will probably be the better choice for you. Although the last Marshmallow release of Dirty Unicorns was an unofficial build for the D855, I liked how fluid it felt. The phone really felt slick - like a well-oiled machine :good: Unfortunately I stopped using it as the camera was nowhere near as good as stock. If you don't care about the camera, you may give it a try.
I hope this answer is of any help to you. Good luck with your new ROM!

Interesting thread, might i ask which ROM would give the most adequate camera quality? Thank you.

isidorosr20595 said:
Hello,
Since LG abandoned LG G3 (right?) and my warranty expires soon I'd like to change the ROM. Do you know any custom ROM that's as stable as the stock one? G3 is my daily driver and I don't want to experience any problems/bugs.
Unfortunately I've heard there are issues with Lineage and RR. Is that true?
Thanks.
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Do you have the LG G3 LS990? Thats what I have and I just cant seem to find good instructions or help on installing the Lineage rom.
Since my comment above, I was able to get the Lineage OS 14.1 installed and working. So far so good, I like it. But I am no expert with this.

Milton1979 said:
Interesting thread, might i ask which ROM would give the most adequate camera quality? Thank you.
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Stock ROMs or Stock-based ROMs should be your choice for the best camera quality.
So far I have tried the stock LG v30b, Tekcafe UX4 v3.5, N&N ROM v10.0 and Fulmics 6.9. I have been on Fulmics for some time now, so I can't make definitive comments about the others as my memory is fading, but from what I remember they were all very close to each other, if not identical. With Fulmics, you have a few extra options such as FHD 60 FPS video recording. That might be present on N&N v10.0, too, but honestly I can't remember it at the moment. For me, the most striking difference between the LG G5 camera app in Fulmics and the original LG G3 camera app in Stock v30b/Tekcafe UX4 was NOT in image quality but rather in colours/saturation. In daylight conditions I wouldn't see any difference, but in environments illuminated with lamps in a less-than-ideal manner, I get a bit more saturated and slightly yellowish pictures with Fulmics v6.9. With Stock v30b/Tekcafe UX4, colours seemed more natural, but also the picture seemed to have slightly less contrast with a hint of slightly washed-out colours. Honestly, I can't say one tops the other - all have their cons and pros, but all should be more than satisfying at the end of the day. As for photos taken using HDR, I found that the LG V20 camera mod found in the Fulmics Hub worked the best for me. If you zoomed in a bit after taking the photo, you could see that it reproduced colours a bit more faithully while being slightly less grainy, but it occasionally hung or crashed on my phone, so I ended up reverting to the stock G5 camera, which ALWAYS works great for me! :good:

If you want to preserve the camera quality, but want to get rid of most LG crapware, you can try Nimax Slim Fit, I've been using it in the last few days and so far I'm really happy with it. It's one of the most snappy and battery friendly stock based ROMs that I've tried.

I tried the AOSP pixel g3. So far it seems stable, however its far from the G3's stock rom. But honestly, nothing beats the vanilla android experience.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/rom-pixel-g3-aosp-t3571499

I flashed the LineageOS Official Latest nightly build a few days ago. It seems to be good, very responsive and good battery.
Unfortunately....there is an issue (on my device anyways) with the screen rotation not working. I have tried every possible configuration under screen rotation settings and it just wont rotate any screen or app.
After hours on google, this site and even submitting a post on here for help and getting no responses, I am going to give up on Lineage and move to RR I think.
My device is the LG G3 LS990

Allow me to join this thread too, I am confused on choosing the better rom too.
My standard on choosing rom is
1st: battery life
2nd: speed (performance)
3rd: customization on layout
Most important is battery life. I have tried many roms, I flashed AOSP-CAF for its pure android & slim, but I cant even use wm density command, plus customising the notification tiles.
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I flashed Fulmics, Tek-Cafe and crdroid, stock based & crdroid cannot read my SIM contacts, and crdroid drains battery pretty fast.
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I am using Cloudy G3 now but there are bugs making music app force close sometimes, if there are no good custom roms, I will be flashing back stock v10n. Since Kingroot is not compatible woth v30c D855...
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Which rom would you recommend in my situation?
Another question: will lowering size to 1080P, and DPI, increase the battery life and performance of the phone?

Vulturon said:
Allow me to join this thread too, I am confused on choosing the better rom too.
My standard on choosing rom is
1st: battery life
2nd: speed (performance)
3rd: customization on layout
Most important is battery life. I have tried many roms, I flashed AOSP-CAF for its pure android & slim, but I cant even use wm density command, plus customising the notification tiles.
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I flashed Fulmics, Tek-Cafe and crdroid, stock based & crdroid cannot read my SIM contacts, and crdroid drains battery pretty fast.
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I am using Cloudy G3 now but there are bugs making music app force close sometimes, if there are no good custom roms, I will be flashing back stock v10n. Since Kingroot is not compatible woth v30c D855...
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Which rom would you recommend in my situation?
Another question: will lowering size to 1080P, and DPI, increase the battery life and performance of the phone?
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I am using this rom for some time now...pretty stable, no bugs, clean UI...just flash android 7.1.1 not 7.1.2 as it has some bugs! Even got 4k video in this rom :fingers-crossed:
To answer your another question...lowering DPI would save some battery but many apps wont work and its to buggy if u ask me!

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I am using this rom for some time now...pretty stable, no bugs, clean UI...just flash android 7.1.1 not 7.1.2 as it has some bugs! Even got 4k video in this rom :fingers-crossed:
To answer your another question...lowering DPI would save some battery but many apps wont work and its to buggy if u ask me!
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but what I concern is battery and performance...

I moved from STOCK ROM because the voice dial through bluetooth does not work neither Lollipop v21a nor Marshmellow v30b, v30n..
Hands free Voice dial does not work on Fulmics 7.6 as well.
Instead it works with RR and LineageOS but the Camera and stabilty are bad.

What is the most Secure ROM

CRDROID ROM is currently the best now... That's what I'm using right. I promise you won't regret using it... Hit the link to download https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=228321

I have an LS990 and I've had tons of NO SIM issues with CrDroid (both versions). I'll be going back to fulmics for stability and better camera.

Itried many newwest Firmware . Most of It By hardStyler . its good but some kind of many Bug Like in f400 They cannot detect Storage .. You need to go on TWRP mode To transfer file on pc ... For me the best Firware Are Lineage 14.1 Nightly Build... Stable and Fast.. Oreo Is bit Unstable for now Many thing need to Improve... For stability Chose Lineage heres link https://download.lineageos.org/
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nougat Is Very Good . Fast and Stable , Oreo Under Developmen. Marshmallow and lolipop Bit To old!

Which Rom do you Prefer and why?

I'm​ currently on LOS but I Will return to nuclear as the battery is very poor for me on LOS and RR.

Resurection remix. Can 't beat the optimization options and battery life... Best rom for me.

kodrnusa said:
Resurection remix. Can 't beat the optimization options and battery life... Best rom for me.
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How is the battery life compared to LOS and Nuclear?

I can not make comparisons between roms because I only use RR because of optimizations. I get 2 full days with 5 and a half to 6 hours of screen on time. Can not complain.

Resurrection remix is the only thing that exists.

Unlike the others, I haven't tried RR yet, I thought the locked thread was an indication I should wait.
I've tried Stock MM, Stock N, LOS and Nuclear. The stock ROMs were nice, but I don't get much out of Mifavor, and there are too many default apps I don't need.
LOS makes for a nice base, but requires a lot of tinkering to get what you'd otherwise get from a ROM that's using it as a base.
That's where Nuclear shined for me. It ships with substratum, has nice options for the lockscreen, and statusbar, and kernel optimizations. The battery life has been great so far.
Though, now I'm thinking I should give RR a whirl

This thread should've included a poll. My vote goes to NucleaROM. It is my first non-stock rom on this phone and the moment I started using it I realized how well LineageOS works on this phone and how little I will miss MiFavor or whatever it's called, although I have to admit that the stock rom was pretty fast and smooth aswell.

kodrnusa said:
Resurection remix. Can 't beat the optimization options and battery life... Best rom for me.
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Same here! RR all the way!

kodrnusa said:
I can not make comparisons between roms because I only use RR because of optimizations. I get 2 full days with 5 and a half to 6 hours of screen on time. Can not complain.
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Impressive SoT I must say.

dumbledork said:
Unlike the others, I haven't tried RR yet, I thought the locked thread was an indication I should wait.
I've tried Stock MM, Stock N, LOS and Nuclear. The stock ROMs were nice, but I don't get much out of Mifavor, and there are too many default apps I don't need.
LOS makes for a nice base, but requires a lot of tinkering to get what you'd otherwise get from a ROM that's using it as a base.
That's where Nuclear shined for me. It ships with substratum, has nice options for the lockscreen, and statusbar, and kernel optimizations. The battery life has been great so far.
Though, now I'm thinking I should give RR a whirl
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Same here

Delete

I love LOS 14.1 and am extremely happy since the speaker output was recently fixed. It seems to have the most support also (the whole LOS team)
I would switch to another ROM if the battery life is better though.. thats my only problem with the axon 7 now. are any of the other ROMs significantly better?

Stock, because deodexing is for noobs and bloatware is for pros.
Seriously, just stock. Performance is always better on stock ROMs.

warBeard_actual said:
Stock, because deodexing is for noobs and bloatware is for pros.
Seriously, just stock. Performance is always better on stock ROMs.
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Yes, always better like on Samsung phones with their lagwiz.

warBeard_actual said:
Seriously, just stock. Performance is always better on stock ROMs.
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Lol, let's pretend you know what you are talking about. :highfive:

I am on RR ROM and would not go back to stock. Sound is so much better and really loud without distortion. :laugh:

I have tried most of the ROMs available and I like RR the best. Due to the customizations it has available, I like my phone to be the way I want it.

spacemanvt said:
I love LOS 14.1 and am extremely happy since the speaker output was recently fixed. It seems to have the most support also (the whole LOS team)
I would switch to another ROM if the battery life is better though.. thats my only problem with the axon 7 now. are any of the other ROMs significantly better?
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For me LOS battery is horrible

senny22 said:
Impressive SoT I must say.
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At 49%

I'd like to try a non stock ROM, but having an Axon 7 and losing the DAC is madness to me.

[Q/Debate] Stock vs LOS based, in terms of performance.

I have been using custom rom on this device since i bought it and took it out of the box (4-5 months ago).
To be honest and coming from other "superior" device, in terms of performance this device never disappointed me, for me it's like a "diesel car", you'll not have the power that maybe you are able to get whether you have a device powered by a Snapdragon 800-35 series. But this device ever performs very decently in every task, without major troubles.
Today i used my girlfriend's G4 Plus Dual-SIM XT1641 (totally stock, non-rooted, no anything, besides the lot of trash apps/games and Google bloatware that she has installed) and surprisingly i felt it much more "light/fast", for example when scrolling. So, i decided to make comparissions using the so much hated benchmark test (Geekbench 4 specifically, and AnTuTu 3D).
My results were:
Stock Nougat (7.0 June security patch):
Single-core: 742
Multi-Core: 3081
Stock LineageOS 14.1 (without modifications):
Single-Core: 662
Multi-core: 2314
The stock G4 plus did the test 5 minutes more quickly than the other one (mine XT1641 Single-SIM).
Then, i did the same test with AnTuTu, the result was similar, the stock one scored like a 20% better, and ended the test 3-4 minutes first. But the important thing for me was in the graphics test (GPU), honestly the stock one destroyed my device (running 14.1) in terms of graphic smoothness (FPS). The graphics in my device were really slow and i could see this slowdown in real time (running the test in both devices side to side, in the same time) [5/7FPS less than the stock one].
I use LineageOS 14.1 with his stock kernel, as it comes.
The obvious question:
[Question]: Why this happens?
I ask this because in every device that i owned the results were the opposite, i mean: CyanogenMod/LineageOS was pretty superior than the Stock rom (in terms of performance and even in benchmarking tests).
Don't get me wrong and think that i am complaining about the custom rom performance, in fact, i love (and i'm currently using) custom roms. I am just curious about the reasons of these results.
Your opinions are really welcome.

I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.

reCoded said:
I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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Definitely that's te way to go. :good:

I can also say that stock is alot smoother than the custom ROMs. Gaming performance is also better and I've even tried asking why custom ROMs gaming performance suffers compared to stock but no one seems to respond

I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.

danilomrx said:
I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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What games have you tried?.
I've tried bleach brave souls and I get seriously bad lag compared to stock.
Although you are right about stock having bad memory management

yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast

krishna8691 said:
yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.

In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??

andres88_ said:
In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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I am on stock right now, rooted with EX. I obtained the same results as the post (with Geekbench 4). I know that the score isn't really important, anyway, i will use this rom a couple of days, to take better conclusions.

I notice that on stock, I get 5-7 hours of SoT, but on any ROM, even stock aosp, I get 3-4 hours. Quite strange.

I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.

Multi-core: 2330 with Cypheros 7.1.2

MisterSteve said:
I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
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Totally agreed, developers like Silesh.Nair, Jleeblanch, vache, and others did amazing jobs here. We are lucky to have devs of that level, because we have ROMs of quality and variety for this device. Thanks for your great opinion.

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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.

moonlightdrive said:
I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.

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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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OmniROM, without a doubt. I tried plenty of roms, it's seems to be the only purely AOSP based. This rom performs like the stock one but whit the plus of a better battery life.
The only bad thing about Omni could be that is has not all the features that the LOS based ones offers, like Invicta or RR.

well, that's right. for me stock rom also feels a lot smoother faster and battery life is incredible. best stock software i've seen from motorola. i like custom roms and all the possibilities they bring, and we already have some very stable like invicta, or LOS. but i love this phone on stock (and debloated hehehe)