Verizon Messages+ stuck on "Please Wait Starting Service" - LG V20 Questions & Answers

The year is 2017. I see threads going back to 2015 about this issue, but no one's seemed to solve the problem. There's a Verizon Messages+ app for iOS, Android and Desktop PC's that allow you to forward or 'sync' text messages of a Verizon line to another device. I say 'line' because it works flawlessly on the Desktop PC app and Android tablet (which neither were purchased or has anything to do with Verizon).
Here's my scenario:
Phone 1: iPhone 6S 32GB (Verizon work phone) - has 4GB data allowance
Phone 2: GINORMOUS T-Mobile V20 (Personal phone) - unlimited data
Having both phones and a wallet in one pocket is absurd. T-Mobile's 'DIGITS' app is failing - at best. I can't get it to stay active more then 10 minutes. Therefore my goal here is to *73 and forward my Verizon calls to my personal T-Mo phone and just block caller ID on outgoing calls because I don't know how to spoof caller ID into showing another number (my Verizon work line), THEN use this famed 'Messages+' app on my T-Mobile phone since all my co-workers seem to want to text more than make phone calls. Before you say anything, I had Google Voice for YEARS and was a huge talker about it - but it failed me so many times, and making calls on an iOS device never shows the correct number on caller ID when calling out. It was extremely awkward. Also, if you're in a bad service area and GV can't make an Internet connection to initiate the call, you're screwed.
If I download the Messages+ app for desktop to my laptop, it works damn good. No lag, it's instant and has lots of features! But, if I install it on my T-mo personal phone and try to 'activate' or whatever it wants, it just sits there looking at me funny. THIS IS SO IRRITATING. I CAN NOT BE the only one with the situation of dealing with two phones. I'm out of the office 75% of the time traveling going from airport to airport and can't miss calls or texts.
Does ANYONE have any kind of input on how I can resolve this issue? I'm at the point now to where I'm just going to cancel my T-mo personal account and have people call me at home like they did in the 90's. Does Verizon really think I want to do this? Why would this app work flawlessly on a desktop, but not an Android phone? Isn't the Internet the Internet? I don't want to sync anything, I just want to RECEIVE and SEND text messages.
What gives? I am SO FRUSTRATED over this.

vzw user here with 3 phones and user of message+(great app) the trick for me i've noticed is you MUST have a verizon sim installed for the app to properly "start service" then you can remove sim after. If it's a non cellular device, like samsung tab-s no sim needed, but once the app realizes it's a cellular device, you need a sim. The sim can be removed AFTER the service starts and as long as you regularly use the app on the phone after it 's activated you're good, but if you stop for like a few days, it knows and deactivates the service.
hope that helps

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vzw user here with 3 phones and user of message+(great app) the trick for me i've noticed is you MUST have a verizon sim installed for the app to properly "start service" then you can remove sim after. If it's a non cellular device, like samsung tab-s no sim needed, but once the app realizes it's a cellular device, you need a sim. The sim can be removed AFTER the service starts and as long as you regularly use the app on the phone after it 's activated you're good, but if you stop for like a few days, it knows and deactivates the service.
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I appreciate the response, but that didn't work for me. I have a G5 plus unlocked and I installed the messages+ app and it worked perfect with the Verizon sim. Then I turned the phone off, stuck the T-Mo sim in, powered on and loaded up that app. As soon as it opened an error came up that said "MDN SETTINGS CHANGED. APPLICATION RESETTING!" and brought me back to the first screen you see with the app.
I really think I'm doomed. This is so unfortunate.

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I appreciate the response, but that didn't work for me. I have a G5 plus unlocked and I installed the messages+ app and it worked perfect with the Verizon sim. Then I turned the phone off, stuck the T-Mo sim in, powered on and loaded up that app. As soon as it opened an error came up that said "MDN SETTINGS CHANGED. APPLICATION RESETTING!" and brought me back to the first screen you see with the app.
I really think I'm doomed. This is so unfortunate.
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Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were putting the tmo sim back in, ans as soon as the app sees that sim it deactivates, sucks that VZW makes it that way, as my wifi tablet just works, unless you could trick the messages + app to thinking it's not installed on a phone, but thats beyond my skill set

Yeah, I thought about that, but it's over my head too. That app works great on my tablet too. Ahh well, maybe someone will see this blog and have a miracle answer! Tha J's for trying though!

I use the Verizon Messages + app as my main SMS (w/ MetroPCS service /tmobile) since it has a lot of features I like plus works really well with Android Wear 2.0 ...
I do know it does take a little time to get past the "starting messages screen" (maybe 1 min or so)... but so far the only issue i've seen is that occasionally i will receive duplicate sms messages in a group chat... not sure how to fix it..

thought i'd give you an update.. but now i've had issues with the app deleting / removing conversations from my list.. at first i thought it was related to accidently hitting delete on my watch.. but the second time it happened i know it wasn't me directly.. so i have deleted the app.. back to Textra for me...
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Mobile network not working - please help (Nexus 4)

Nexus 4, rooted. Got T-Mobile SIM from straight talk, cut the SIM to micro, phone is working with full bars. But there is no mobile network, I set up the APN as they described in their web site(sorry i cant attach the links).
In the phone status, I see Mobile network type: unknown:0, and Mobile Network state disconnected.Attaching the screen shot,
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I can only think of 2 things, either the root process broke it or bad SIM may be (if its bad SIM I shouldn't get the phone working though), please let me know if you have any ideas how to fix this, appreciate all your help
Did you play around with any of the mobile data settings?
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no, i dont see many options except Data Enabled, which is checked, APN is verified and right, everything else is default
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no, i dont see many options except Data Enabled, which is checked, APN is verified and right, everything else is default
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I meant in the service menu. It can't be root that's the problem. Did you ever have data in your area?
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Nexus 4, rooted. Got T-Mobile SIM from straight talk, cut the SIM to micro, phone is working with full bars. But there is no mobile network, I set up the APN as they described in their web site(sorry i cant attach the links).
In the phone status, I see Mobile network type: unknown:0, and Mobile Network state disconnected.Attaching the screen shot,
I can only think of 2 things, either the root process broke it or bad SIM may be (if its bad SIM I shouldn't get the phone working though), please let me know if you have any ideas how to fix this, appreciate all your help
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I basically suffered the same issue for my first 2 days with a new Nexus 4. I discussed my issues in the Straight Talk thread (ST). After I exhausted all the possible solutions offered up via my Google searches, only then I went the route of contacting Straight Talk directly. I could have saved myself a boat load of grief, if I had simply contacted ST at the start. Give it a try. I went to the Facebook icon on the ST homepage. Then, I clicked the Support icon on the ST Facebook page. It asked about creating a Ticket. I said yes and entered a short description of the problem. There were a couple of email exchanges and finally about 12 hours after starting my communication with ST, they said to pull the battery and send myself a picture message. Of course, we cannot pull the battery, so I just sent myself a picture message. A miracle. As I sent the message, the phone internet/data connection opened and my first MMS was finally sent. Note, I checked my mobile data connection just prior to sending the MMS message and it was still "disconnected". I think ST must have done something from their end, to correct my problem. I only used the exact APN settings that were provided with the ST AT&T sim card activation kit. Save yourself some trouble and open a trouble ticket. I learned the hard way. I love my N4 and my ST AT&T signal strength and reliability is great in the NJ, DE, PA tri-state area.
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I basically suffered the same issue for my first 2 days with a new Nexus 4. I discussed my issues in the Straight Talk thread (ST). After I exhausted all the possible solutions offered up via my Google searches, only then I went the route of contacting Straight Talk directly. I could have saved myself a boat load of grief, if I had simply contacted ST at the start. Give it a try. I went to the Facebook icon on the ST homepage. Then, I clicked the Support icon on the ST Facebook page. It asked about creating a Ticket. I said yes and entered a short description of the problem. There were a couple of email exchanges and finally about 12 hours after starting my communication with ST, they said to pull the battery and send myself a picture message. Of course, we cannot pull the battery, so I just sent myself a picture message. A miracle. As I sent the message, the phone internet/data connection opened and my first MMS was finally sent. Note, I checked my mobile data connection just prior to sending the MMS message and it was still "disconnected". I think ST must have done something from their end, to correct my problem. I only used the exact APN settings that were provided with the ST AT&T sim card activation kit. Save yourself some trouble and open a trouble ticket. I learned the hard way. I love my N4 and my ST AT&T signal strength and reliability is great in the NJ, DE, PA tri-state area.
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Thank You for the info, I called ST and they said my ported number is not in their system yet(even though i can use the number), which will take 24 hours and then may be the data services will work. I have couple of more hours to verify
Rooting cannot break your phone's ability to access the network.
Any new info on this OP? I just got my N4 yesterday and am using a AT&T Straight Talk SIM, but I also can not connect to mobile data. I had my number ported over from Boost Mobile, so did waiting a day or two help?
EDIT: I also tried a million different APN settings to no avail.

NEXUS 4 doesnt recognise 'EE, orange, t-mobile'

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ive recently fired up my new nexus 4, which has been a pleasure the last 2 days. im still getting to grips with it but it is a great phone.
ive searched and cant find an answer to this so hope someone on here can help.
Have got these weird symbols at the bottom of my lockscreen
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obviously you can access the browser by swiping up but i cant find any other examples of this phone looking the same anywhere on the net.
is it possible to rid my lock screen of the @ symbols?
any help appreciated
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Custom rom or a weird sim card I'm pretty sure. Mine says tmobile but you can change it with custom roms. I vaguely recall seeing this before and it was with the sim carrier.
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Custom rom or a weird sim card I'm pretty sure. Mine says tmobile but you can change it with custom roms. I vaguely recall seeing this before and it was with the sim carrier.
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Wouldn't be a custom ROM. Phone came straight from Google and I'm the first owner. Will check with sim provider and see if its that.
ok so this appears to be a phone related problem. as nexus obviously takes a micro sim i tried it with an adapter in an old n95 and after that in a mates galaxy s3 and they register on "EE" both on the home screen and when you search for a new network.
however mine still appears as in the first picture and as below searching for a network. so the nexus either isnt setup for ee/orange/tmob or it cant read the sim????
this is running the latest 4.2.2 jellybean and has made no difference even restoring the phone to factory once.
anyone else using a nexus 4 on ee/orange/t-mobile in the uk and got this problem?
Ive also contacted orange (my provider) and it was them who suggested trying in another mobile but they also ran a diagnostic and that didnt bring up any errors.
have i got a dodgy sim card? (seems unlikely as it works fine in other mobiles)
has the nexus 4 not been configured properly for my network? (also unlikely as there must be thousands of people with a nexus 4 and on the same network)
Or has the phone got a fault itself? (bloody well hope not as its only 4 days old!!)
anyone shed any light on this as its got me really confused
looks like you dont have a mobile data connection. since you dont have a mobile data connection, maybe it cant send the right data to your device, hense the @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@.
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looks like you dont have a mobile data connection. since you dont have a mobile data connection, maybe it cant send the right data to your device, hense the @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@.
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I doubt it since I'm on GiffGaff where you have to manually enter the APN settings but it always said giffgaff wherever it had the carrier label. Also, as you can see the other networks' names come up fine. @OP maybe you could try manually entering the APNs and connecting to mobile data to see if simms is right.
Mine is exactly the same. I'm on orange. My SGS2 showed it as EE like it should be. This nexus 4 has always had varying strings of the '@' symbol. Been like that since I got it in November. I just tell people I'm on an exclusive network not available to paupers.
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looks like you dont have a mobile data connection. since you dont have a mobile data connection, maybe it cant send the right data to your device, hense the @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@.
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Yea data connection is fine. I'm using it now to type this.
666fff said:
Mine is exactly the same. I'm on orange. My SGS2 showed it as EE like it should be. This nexus 4 has always had varying strings of the '@' symbol. Been like that since I got it in November. I just tell people I'm on an exclusive network not available to paupers.
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I'm hoping its gonna sort its self with a future update but until I figure it out I like this idea. An exclusive network just for nexus users.
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I'm hoping its gonna sort its self with a future update but until I figure it out I like this idea. An exclusive network just for nexus users.
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I have the same issue, I got a panther orange sim and put it into the nexus 4 and 'Orange' was displayed for about 4 days. Then out of the blue it changed to @@@@@@@.
I reset the phone but nothing changed. I took out the sim card and with no sim in the phone, I searched for mobile networks and the phone lists Orange, EE and T-Mobile. But with the sim in the phone they are all listed as @@@@@@@@.
Sim works fine in every way as far as I can tell, its just the network name which is displayed incorrectly.

No Service for a few seconds, happens all the time

Hey everyone, just another thing I'm facing with my Note 4...
Ever since I got my Note 4, it's been having some problems with No Service, so I thought it was my old SIM card (that had to be hacked off into microSIM shape), but since I got it exchanged for a new one it's still dropping into No Service very often, like twenty times in 5 minutes. Then it seems to be fine for a few hours, but then it happens again a few times and so on...
Basic info:
SM-N910F
Stock, unrooted NK4 ROM with NK4 modem as there is no way to not trip KNOX yet.
O2 Czech Republic
In the same places, my S2 never had a single signal drop (No Service)—not sure if these two things are identical?
Questions/thoughts...
Could this be modem related or could it be something with the device itself?
Is there any way to test it?
I mostly notice it on H and H+, not so much (never) on EDGE, 4G coverage is rare in my area, so I can't say exactly.
Factory reset: could it change something in this case? I'm saving it as the penultimate solution, before getting a new one.
Thanks for your help.
I think I found a little bit of correlation between when and where it happens. Not really sure if it happens only when I'm close to some WiFi network, but I just noticed that when I'm in proximity of a WiFi network, the NO SERVICE is very often.
Plus, when I think about it, I haven't noticed it anywhere else, but in WiFi areas. Is the phone trying to tell me to use the WiFi?! Well, I can do that at home but nowhere else as I don't want my packets sniffed more than they already are by the provider...
Seriously, is there any way that WiFi networks could interfere with my phone's signal/service?
if smart switch is on, yes.
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if smart switch is on, yes.
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Thank you for the reply, I thought that smart switch was meant for transferring data from an old phone to a new one? Or do you mean some different "smart switch"?
look in settings. smart switch moves data from your mobile network to wifi and back.
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look in settings. smart switch moves data from your mobile network to wifi and back.
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Yeah, found it, Smart network switch in Wi-Fi settings. I have it unticked. So this shouldn't be affecting me(?) As the No Service happens to me when I'm on mobile data, in Wi-Fi range but my Wi-Fi is off...
no solution yet
I still haven't figured out what's the problem exactly.
But me and my colleague have the same provider, but she's got an S4 and when I had them side-by-side I noticed that both phones dropped to No Service at the same time, but my S2 didn't. The area is fine, signal-wise, there's even a mediocre 4G, but at the time all of them were on H+. And when they "regained consciousness", they were starting from zero signal EDGE back to full H+.
This makes me wonder, as it seems it's got to have something to do with some setting in both phones / SIM cards' setup. Both of them have new SIM cards and both of them did it even with the old ones.
I'm gonna call my provider's tech support to see what they have to say about it.
I am experiencing the same problem here in USA. I bought the phone from Amazon Germany, using it on AT & T network in US. For no reason the phone drops the phone call and goes into " Not registered on network" message. This lasts anywhere from 20 seconds to 5 minutes, then without me doing anything goes back to normal. I was using this phone in Czech republic for a week in January and had no issues.
I was experiencing no service on my Exynos n910u and I ended up reflashing ONLY the modem, and it's fine now.
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Hey guys, thanks for the replies.
It seems to me like a modem issue too. I remember that I had to change modem on my S2 in order for H+ to work.
And since I can see there is an issue when changing countries, it would suggest it as possible... However, does flashing modem only trip the Knox counter or something? I can't read through the forums right now, so I'm asking politely here.
Anyway, I isolated the issue to 3G networks, because when I force my phone to be 2G only it never drops, my signal is green and seldom grey. No service never occurs, but as soon as I switch it to 2G/3G/4G or something else that includes 3G, it starts again.
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I am experiencing the same problem here in USA. I bought the phone from Amazon Germany, using it on AT & T network in US. For no reason the phone drops the phone call and goes into " Not registered on network" message. This lasts anywhere from 20 seconds to 5 minutes, then without me doing anything goes back to normal. I was using this phone in Czech republic for a week in January and had no issues.
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Wanted to thank you for the input, this just suggests that the modem/radio is at fault. Because you relocated to a different area and it doesn't work properly with the bands there.
I had the same problem on my S2, which was unable to connect to 3G until I flashed the modem recommended to me by someone here on xda. But that was almost 4 years ago, I just don't understand why this happens, what's so different that the modem just wouldn't connect, plus the S2 was bought from my provider and it was branded with their bloatware and still, it didn't work.
But here on my N4, it's similar, but it seems to work just fine and then, all of a sudden, you're facing No Service message for a few seconds or minutes, then boom, you're back on.
I spoke with Samsung support today, and I guess they didn't even understand what I was saying. I'm gonna have to visit them and ask around, if they could flash the modem to something more compatible with my area. Can't use the phone like this, that's why I bought it in the first place - I need to be online and as fast as possible. But now, it would seem like I'm better off with my S2
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Well, that sucks...
So, I had my phone serviced and they said everything was fine and that it's working the way it should.
Of course it isn't, the second I walked out of there I had a No Service a few times again, I already tried changing the bands only to what my provider has, didn't help at all, switched it back to all available bands. Naturally, I got really pissed. There seem to be only two viable options:
a) flash a different modem, as suggested in a previous post
or
b) get rid of the phone, which I really don't wanna do, but it's really annoying having to resend every second message (often twice), be it SMS or IM, because it drops into No Service...
ad a) I did a search and I was unable to find a modem thread or anything regarding modems for N910F, am I blind or there isn't one? Or am I supposed to extract it myself from a stock ROM file? (I don't even remember how to do that anymore, lol.... I guess there is a guide for that, but again, I haven't found it?! Or is it universal across Samsung devices?)
ad b) I love the phone but this makes me wanna throw it out the window
Thanks for any kind of help! I'm desperate.
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So, I had my phone serviced and they said everything was fine and that it's working the way it should.
Of course it isn't, the second I walked out of there I had a No Service a few times again, I already tried changing the bands only to what my provider has, didn't help at all, switched it back to all available bands. Naturally, I got really pissed. There seem to be only two viable options:
a) flash a different modem, as suggested in a previous post
or
b) get rid of the phone, which I really don't wanna do, but it's really annoying having to resend every second message (often twice), be it SMS or IM, because it drops into No Service...
ad a) I did a search and I was unable to find a modem thread or anything regarding modems for N910F, am I blind or there isn't one? Or am I supposed to extract it myself from a stock ROM file? (I don't even remember how to do that anymore, lol.... I guess there is a guide for that, but again, I haven't found it?! Or is it universal across Samsung devices?)
ad b) I love the phone but this makes me wanna throw it out the window
Thanks for any kind of help! I'm desperate.
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Did you manage to solve your problems? I have the website with modems but i cant post links.
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Did you manage to solve your problems? I have the website with modems but i cant post links.
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Thank you for your reply!
I haven't solved them yet, but it got a lot better when I updated to Lollipop. It's got a different modem (BOC4) and it seems to have improved my situation. So happy I didn't have to throw the phone away after all.
To be clear, it still happens but a lot less since the update, maybe once a week, for a few seconds which I deem acceptable but not ideal.

I think my wife just got WiFi calling enabled on T-Mobile!

My wife just got the 5.1 OTA last night and right now when she had a call come in a new answer screen popped up asking if she wanted to answer normal or answer on wifi!... Unfortunately we are out and about now. I will try to get a pic later
Could it have been hangouts?
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Could it have been hangouts?
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Possibly... I have never seen that screen before but then again I never used hangouts. Shr doesn't use it either though unless it enabled itself with the update
Well now that we are home I cannot recreate the answer screen ?
What's the build #?
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What's the build #?
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The M build
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The M build
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Don't think it's got wifi calling enabled ... But really curious as to what you saw!
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Don't think it's got wifi calling enabled ... But really curious as to what you saw!
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Me too... I'm so mad that we were on our way out the gate and now I can't reproduce it...
hangouts works great. free wifi calling, you don't even need a phone plan these days...
Did it look like this?
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No it wasn't hangouts... We tested that earlier and she said it wasn't any of the possible hangout ones... I am so mad that I was driving and couldn't really look at the screen myself.. . Also mad i didn't think to tell her to screenshot it
It specifically said something about answer with wifi
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hangouts works great. free wifi calling, you don't even need a phone plan these days...
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Stop, just stop. I am SICK and tired of seeing these posts. We are talking about WiFi calling on T-Mobile. EVERY single thread that talks about it has the "HANGOUTS IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!!" It is not constructive to the conversation. We know about hangouts. We use hangouts BUT WE NEED WIFI CALLING. We have our own reasons. Just STOP.
@Topgun966 I'm new to T-Mobile and N6 is, obviously, the first device I've used on their network ... In regards to WiFi calling, I assume when you place a call via WiFi the party on the other end sees your regular # displayed? (sorry for the off topic question OP)
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Stop, just stop. I am SICK and tired of seeing these posts. We are talking about WiFi calling on T-Mobile. EVERY single thread that talks about it has the "HANGOUTS IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!!" It is not constructive to the conversation. We know about hangouts. We use hangouts BUT WE NEED WIFI CALLING. We have our own reasons. Just STOP.
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If you want WiFi calling, I suggest using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.hangoutsdialer
Hmmm... Well, when T-Mobile gets Wi-Fi Calling in, a lot might not notice. It uses the same dialer, no difference.
Really the only way to tell is that you get a notification that w/c is active and you see your phone radio disabled. Functionally, it's exactly the same as normal dialing.
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@Topgun966 I'm new to T-Mobile and N6 is, obviously, the first device I've used on their network ... In regards to WiFi calling, I assume when you place a call via WiFi the party on the other end sees your regular # displayed? (sorry for the off topic question OP)
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I have used wifi calling all the way back to when it called UMA/blackberry days
Yes, the other end sees it as a normal call. In fact it appears as normal call on both ends. The only difference is that works even buried deep in a building as long as you have a wifi connection. No cell connection needed. Texting and everything just work as if you had cell signal.
"...under development! Still a way to go! (but we are getting closer!)"
https://twitter.com/askdes/status/580825432192253952
YankInDaSouth said:
@Topgun966 I'm new to T-Mobile and N6 is, obviously, the first device I've used on their network ... In regards to WiFi calling, I assume when you place a call via WiFi the party on the other end sees your regular # displayed? (sorry for the off topic question OP)
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Exactly. Your phone works just like a normal phone for texts/calls/mms but data is transferred over wifi. So when you traveling to places outside of T-mos network or traveling internationally, it acts just the same. For someone like me that travels quite often, I need it. My GV number is just for professional and spam calls. No one in my personal life has that number, as the way I want it. When I am overseas, or in a place with no coverage, I have to use my iPhone 6 for the wifi calling and I am telling you, that is annoying.
basically Hangouts IS wifi calling. Who cares, as long as you can make the damn call. It does work great, use it on my computer and tablets all the time with no carrier subscription. get a Google number folks

Is there a working free hot spot apps?

No root won't be a problem if there is a working hot spot app for us unlimited users.
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FoxFi used to work with a VPN tunnel... but I don't know now. I use VZW as my ISP, so I pay for tethering.
All the phones I have had are rooted with hot spot carrier check bypass so not having a hot spot will be a no go on this phone.
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No root won't be a problem if there is a working hot spot app for us unlimited users.
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hbar98 said:
FoxFi used to work with a VPN tunnel... but I don't know now. I use VZW as my ISP, so I pay for tethering.
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No big need for an app, the turning on hot spot while signal refreshes method works.....Look up details in the Turbo2 forum.
I can get the signal refresher method to work, but the hotspot shortcut in the notification panel only turns it off for me. It will not turn it on. Any suggestions? I have to queue the hotspot settings then switch to activate from there.
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No big need for an app, the turning on hot spot while signal refreshes method works.....Look up details in the Turbo2 forum.
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Searched through the Turbo 2 forums and dont see anything. Anyway you could post a link please? Thank you.
I currently am working with the FCC and the EFF to address this
Below you can read my complaint. I have removed identifying information for the time being but have at this point escalated beyond the FCC. Last night I was contacted by the FCC and we discussed plans for next steps. They have forwarded my complaint to Verizon and I was contacted by Verizon Enterprise Resolutions Team. I spoke with VZW today and had a 45 minute conversation discussing their restriction on the fact that Verizon is treading very close to the 2012 ruling. At this point I am waiting to hear back from Crystal from Verizon's internal team on next steps.
VERIZON WIRELESS - 700MHZ C BLOCK RESTRICTING USERS ABILITY TO UTILIZE OPEN FREQUENCY
On Friday August 19th I purchased a new phone from Verizon Wireless. I was surprised to find out that the applications that I normally use to tether my wireless broadband no longer worked due to a combination of efforts set by Google to patch security holes and Verizon Wireless' modification of the stock rom that was shipped from Motorolla Mobility.
Verizon has modified the stock internal mobile broadband hook in settings and forced it to call a 'Subscription Check' service that requires end users to enroll in a 30$ a month mobile broadband service in addition to their current bill.
While the second part is not new, the first; disabling tethering applications, is.
In 2011 the Free Press filed a complaint with the FCC located here
freepress.net/sites/default/files/fp-legacy/FreePress_CBlock_Complaint.pdf
In this complaint it holds that Verizon Wireless choice and collusion with Google to disable or limit third party tethering apps steering users to their paid server is not only poor business practice but against the fair use of the C block LTE frequency and in the FCC's 2012 ruling found below, they agree.
transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db0731/DOC-315501A1.pdf
The settlement of 1.25 million against Verizon not only solidifies fault, but reinforces the necessity to keeping the use of this frequency open to competition for applications and use.
I feel that the current situation that I am facing also affect other end users and is simply a rehash of the 2011 issue.
I have contacted Verizon and have the recorded messages located here:
Call 1 -REMOVED-
Received email response listed here:
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Call 2 -REMOVED-
Verizon Wireless HQ
Dispute Resolution manager
one Verizon way, VC52S417 Baskin Ridge NJ, 07920-1097
I am looking for advise primarily if I should pursue this issue, if I am off base or if this is something that the FCC has interest in pursuing.
Thanks very much
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Method
This is put together from the droid turbo 2 thread. Works for me on unlimited data.
1. Download "Network Signal Refresher Lite By 8JAPPS"
2. Run the app, Hit the refresh button.
3. Pull down notification drawer, pull down again to get to the quick settings tiles
4. Wait until the Sim card icon changes to the completely empty signal bars icon
5. Hit the hotspot button only once, wait a few seconds it will turn on.
It works for me all the time. Posting from a tethered computer as we speak.
The stock wifi hotspot app work for me on cricket , using moto z force
Drhoot said:
This is put together from the droid turbo 2 thread. Works for me on unlimited data.
1. Download "Network Signal Refresher Lite By 8JAPPS"
2. Run the app, Hit the refresh button.
3. Pull down notification drawer, pull down again to get to the quick settings tiles
4. Wait until the Sim card icon changes to the completely empty signal bars icon
5. Hit the hotspot button only once, wait a few seconds it will turn on.
It works for me all the time. Posting from a tethered computer as we speak.
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Works great thanks [emoji8]
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Works great thanks [emoji8]
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Have you taken/installed the recent software update?...
Trying to cinfirm thart signal refresh native hotapot procedure still works afyer the software update.
Tether Update
Just got my Moto Z Force today WoW!!! this is one motorola mother ship, anyway while we wait for the sunshine miracle, Tether is great with the PDANet app using Bluetooth, Super fast, not like the unfortunate HTC devices that try the same thing (BT is real slow) on the Z, BT is blazing fast, not much different than the Native Hotspot I used on HTC M9. Hey its free so WTF right?
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Have you taken/installed the recent software update?...
Trying to cinfirm thart signal refresh native hotapot procedure still works afyer the software update.
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I am also looking to see if someone has updated and still had it work.
I mean the Network Signal Refresher Lite app. Theres an update but I want to be sure the hotspot workaround still works before I update it.
Hopefully someone sees this and can advise???????
Yup still confirmed working!
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Yup still confirmed working!
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Do you know if the signal refresher hack still works with the MCOS24.104-35-1-9 latest update?
Yes works after update! I just got a surface rt for work and was trying to find a root for t2 but with no luck but this worked!!! Very awesome! I came across the pull sim card out and out back in with little luck everytime I out card back in hotspot would disable. But this did the trick thank you!
Does this work with the nougat update?
Don't want to upgrade if it means losing hotspot.
Kd
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I can't get it to work with the Network Refresh method. Shoot.
Just out of curiosity what is everyone using the mobile hotspot for? I never feel the need to use it, maybe I can offer some alternative insight.
I use it for when other people need wifi, doing homework at the park, my 3DS, very useful if you're traveling. Used it for like two years when I lived alone as my home wifi. Used to sell phones in a store that didn't have wifi and used it to backup and restore stuff for customers. Lots of little uses that add up quickly.

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