Hey guys, just a quick question. Please please excuse me for I am definitely a noob, but I've done some research about rooting and what it offers yet I still don't know how to use it. It feels much like learning how to drive a stick... understanding in theory, but difficult in application until practice. My note 3 is rooted, but I still have no idea what and how much I can do from here. Not to mention, while I'm doing research and trying to educate myself, there are some names and terms I do not understand. Anyway, let me just write some of the questions I have in a list:
1) Cyanogenmod. Is it available for verizon note 3 running 4.3? I keep getting search results that there are while the cyanogenmod website itself doesn't offer it? I also got a Nexus 7 to try to expand my knowledge in this field, and it does have cyanogenmod installed. Now, to my understanding, it runs side by side with the Android OS while it basically strips the device's bloatware, giving you the pure, simple, raw experience of Android OS. If I were to install cyanogenmod to the note 3, how would it affect the camera functions and the s pen functions? The reason why I ask about the camera is because using my Nexus's camera and looking at some youtube videos of note 2's with cyanogenmod, it seems like it would actually be a downgrade from the note 3's stock camera. And as far as the S pen goes, I've realized that I would lose the action notes, s notes, and sketchbook for galaxy apps, wouldn't I? How could I go around that?
2) Flashing ROMS. What exactly does this do? All I can find is that it allows me to customize my phone, but I don't seem to understand to what extent.
3) Kernels. What are these?
Lol, so sorry for such basic questions. But I would really really appreciate your patience and information!
CyanogenMod is unofficially available for the Note 3. Not everything works. CyanogenMod is a ROM that changes the software on the phone. It's a more customized version of Android, and very close to "stock". If you use CyanogenMod however, you will lose your S-Pen and it's features, along with all of the other TouchWiz features of the phone (gestures, split screen, etc.). The S-pen will act as a basic mouse pointer. CyanogenMod is not pure AOSP, it's quite far from it. It's similar, but very different from a pure Google experience. It's really a beast of it's own in my opinion, and is now a stand alone company that will seek to profit off of the ROM (likely by coming standard on some devices). That's not to say it isn't good, I run it on most of my other devices but on the Note 3, without the S-Pen it's just a big phone.
ROM's are customized versions of Android typically created by a developer or group of developers. The features of each ROM will change. A 4.3 TouchWiz rom might remove all of the carrier bloat (applications not likely used, but run in the background and offer little no actual use to anyone). They'll also provide enhancements and tweaks that make life a little easier like a quick-access flashlight tied to your volume up button, or the ability to remove certain icons from the notification panel, a batter percentage indicator in the notification panel, removing the exchange security permissions, or just general speed improvements over the factory settings. There are many advantages to a ROM and once you use them you'll likely never go back to stock. The ROM features are typically listed in the ROM's topic.
There are many ROM's out there for many different devices, so make sure you only install one that is made for your phone. You'll also hear about AOSP ROM's, these are stock or close-to-stock versions of Android, typically found on Nexus devices. The way Google intended Android to be used.
Android uses a Linux Kernal. It's a customized version of Linux. It's the base operating system behind Android. Similar to ROM's, different kernals can offer different levels of customization, however they won't be as prevalent as a ROM since they deal more with the core of the operating system. The Kernal will manage the drivers for all the different components of the phone, like your radios (how you receive a phone signal), your sensors, camera, CPU, etc. Be especially careful when changing Kernals, it can drastically affect your phone, and possibly permanently.
I'll put in the caveat that this is my understanding, and may not be 100% accurate. People are welcome to correct my mistakes and misunderstandings I may have =)
I hope you find it helpful!
Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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It did! Thank you very much!
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It did! Thank you very much!
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The only option with Safestrap and therefore on newer Verizon Note 3's is a ROM based on stock, so Cyanogenmod isn't an option at all.
I would consider Hyperdrive. Enhanced app windowing options, Xposed framework to get rid of earphone hearing damage warning and never ending reminder about how to clear default apps and tons of little customizations. Getting rid of boot sound is reason enough for me.
Other things on your checklist whether you get a custom ROM or not is Adaware, which you can download on xda to block ads. Need Titanium Backup to back up apps with data, something you can't do without root and very useful when switching ROMs or phones. Lots of other useful tools like Root Explorer on Google Play. If you stick with your stock ROM, do the mod to allow free tethering for Wi-Fi.
Since you like your S Pen, you need Pen Window Manager, available on Play to choose for yourself which apps can run in a pen window. That was one of the big reasons I wanted to root this phone.
By the way, once you find a ROM you like, it's best to nandroid back it up, backup the stock ROM for safety, then restore your custom ROM to the Safestrap stock slot. The ROM 1-4 slots have limited storage so not great long term solution if you have a lot of apps, etc.
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Coming from the Epic, and then from the S3, I have noticed the fragmentation of Android with just the dilution of good development.
With that said, I acknowledge I am a user, not a Developer. I've tried to get interested in development, it is just not where my passion lies.
This is one of those useless posts you see on XDA, however, I feel like there is not much going on in this forum so maybe this is the best discussion we could have.
Take Apple, they have one product to focus on, no one to share the spotlight with. Android on the other hand has several, I have no idea how many, to share the spot light with. S3, S4, S5, Oppo, One, name your poison.
I say all this because I remember back to the Epic... It was Epic. The phone was amazing when it came out, the development was even better.
Now that I'm on the S4, while I don't want to take away anything from what the developers on this phone have done, it is not their fault, but developers will flock to where the demand is. And it just doesn't seem to be here.
Maybe this is Sprints fault? I stay with Sprint because they're the cheapest option I have. Certainly not the best, but definitely the cheapest.
Just trying to promote a discussion, not a flame war. Start now.
socos25 said:
Coming from the Epic, and then from the S3, I have noticed the fragmentation of Android with just the dilution of good development.
With that said, I acknowledge I am a user, not a Developer. I've tried to get interested in development, it is just not where my passion lies.
This is one of those useless posts you see on XDA, however, I feel like there is not much going on in this forum so maybe this is the best discussion we could have.
Take Apple, they have one product to focus on, no one to share the spotlight with. Android on the other hand has several, I have no idea how many, to share the spot light with. S3, S4, S5, Oppo, One, name your poison.
I say all this because I remember back to the Epic... It was Epic. The phone was amazing when it came out, the development was even better.
Now that I'm on the S4, while I don't want to take away anything from what the developers on this phone have done, it is not their fault, but developers will flock to where the demand is. And it just doesn't seem to be here.
Maybe this is Sprints fault? I stay with Sprint because they're the cheapest option I have. Certainly not the best, but definitely the cheapest.
Just trying to promote a discussion, not a flame war. Start now.
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With unified builds, awesome devs are still contributing to our device! Its cool that a talented dev who builds aosp but is with verizon can build for us too. There is no shortage of great development going on, but I'll admit the sprint s4 forums are not as active as I remember the e4gt forums being.
To address your other point, sure - the sheer amount of android devices available will mean the pool of talented devs are spread more thinly across the spectrum of devices, but this community rocks and with a little google-fu (xda helps those who help themselves) I don't think development has really stalled. The forums are just a little less active. What IS a shame is that users here will drive talented devs away from releasing their work publicly on the forums by driving them insane with questions that have been answered 100s of times, petty politics, and flame wars, etc.
But at the end of the day, I would rather have an open OS with a vibrant (or dull) community than a locked down device I can never truly have full control over. But frequent upgrades have always been pushed by manufacturers, at the end of the day profits are the bottom line for them. Thats what is so great about this community, is that the devs here do work that would have gotten them a decent commission or wage elsewhere, FOR FREE. God bless :good::highfive:
All good points, and I would have to say I agree with you, especially with the shame that developers sometimes are driven away by lazy users.
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With unified builds, awesome devs are still contributing to our device! Its cool that a talented dev who builds aosp but is with verizon can build for us too. There is no shortage of great development going on, but I'll admit the sprint s4 forums are not as active as I remember the e4gt forums being.
To address your other point, sure - the sheer amount of android devices available will mean the pool of talented devs are spread more thinly across the spectrum of devices, but this community rocks and with a little google-fu (xda helps those who help themselves) I don't think development has really stalled. The forums are just a little less active. What IS a shame is that users here will drive talented devs away from releasing their work publicly on the forums by driving them insane with questions that have been answered 100s of times, petty politics, and flame wars, etc.
But at the end of the day, I would rather have an open OS with a vibrant (or dull) community than a locked down device I can never truly have full control over. But frequent upgrades have always been pushed by manufacturers, at the end of the day profits are the bottom line for them. Thats what is so great about this community, is that the devs here do work that would have gotten them a decent commission or wage elsewhere, FOR FREE. God bless :good::highfive:
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I'm not a developer either (well of any roms/android mods at least). But as a long time computer power user and burgeoning programmer (3rd year comp sci major) the development on the S4 is very lack luster. We could get into comparing S4 vs development on older platforms, but I'd rather just discuss the generally bad development in the sprint S4 non-original android dev. forum. Most roms are not suited for daily drivers. I have personally tried 2-3 different versions of Sac's Rom and negalite's rom( as well as 1 try on various other roms) and none was with out major flaws.
The problem as I see it is this: The demand is for the newest rom with the most up to date android features. So as rom developers are getting closer to making a stable working version of their roms, Sprint releases an update at which point most developers switch and start working on new release with out ever making a fully functioning rom. To make matters worse most Rom's are presented as a finished product. Some have a known issues section in the first post ,but I challenge any one who disagrees with me to find a known issues section on a rom that actually contains all the know issues. It doesn't exsist. Instead each user is left to download an unfinished product and only after discovering an issue and digging though 10 pages of forums you find others have the same issue and that there may or may not be a soultion. How f'ing hard is it when a god damn issues is reported to update the orginal post?????? I understand these developers are doing this out of the good of their hearts, but anything worth doing is worth doing correctly. If it is to much work to keep an up to date list of ALL known issues, have one of the roms users do so. Not much work for one fan of a rom to keep list of issues if dev cant be bothered.
You help no one when custom roms break things working in the stock version and present it as a working rom. Custom roms used to add fucntion to a device now, it adds somethings and breaks others. Till this trend changes, the best rom is stock rooted + w/e mod a user desires. When a bunch of things dont work label your Rom alpha when most things work call it beta and only when everything works call it stable. This kind of common sense would improve everyone's experience greatly.
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I'm not a developer either (well of any roms/android mods at least). But as a long time computer power user and burgeoning programmer (3rd year comp sci major) the development on the S4 is very lack luster. We could get into comparing S4 vs development on older platforms, but I'd rather just discuss the generally bad development in the sprint S4 non-original android dev. forum. Most roms are not suited for daily drivers. I have personally tried 2-3 different versions of Sac's Rom and negalite's rom( as well as 1 try on various other roms) and none was with out major flaws.
The problem as I see it is this: The demand is for the newest rom with the most up to date android features. So as rom developers are getting closer to making a stable working version of their roms, Sprint releases an update at which point most developers switch and start working on new release with out ever making a fully functioning rom. To make matters worse most Rom's are presented as a finished product. Some have a known issues section in the first post ,but I challenge any one who disagrees with me to find a known issues section on a rom that actually contains all the know issues. It doesn't exsist. Instead each user is left to download an unfinished product and only after discovering an issue and digging though 10 pages of forums you find others have the same issue and that there may or may not be a soultion. How f'ing hard is it when a god damn issues is reported to update the orginal post?????? I understand these developers are doing this out of the good of their hearts, but anything worth doing is worth doing correctly. If it is to much work to keep an up to date list of ALL known issues, have one of the roms users do so. Not much work for one fan of a rom to keep list of issues if dev cant be bothered.
You help no one when custom roms break things working in the stock version and present it as a working rom. Custom roms used to add fucntion to a device now, it adds somethings and breaks others. Till this trend changes, the best rom is stock rooted + w/e mod a user desires. When a bunch of things dont work label your Rom alpha when most things work call it beta and only when everything works call it stable. This kind of common sense would improve everyone's experience greatly.
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To a degree, I definitely am with you on this. I have been with this forum since the days of my old HTC thunderbolt. There are AT LEAST 5 popular daily drivers that worked worlds better than the stock rom for that phone. My particular phone glitches out on the dialer/phone app for all Original Android ROM's meaning I am automatically limited to a TW rom. I've tried everything to fix this but nothing seems to. However, there is one that works flawlessly, Triforce 5.4. It's perfect, so far as I can tell, but is starting to show its age. It may be the only perfect ROM for our phones but is almost completely without bells and whistles, unlike the Thunderbolt, which you could save multiple working images to SD and restore if you felt like using sense one day, CM the next, and I do recall a few completely custom ones loosely based on CM that worked awesome. Anyway that's my say on it. I am sad NAE firmware capabilities don't have a nice Triforce release to go with it, but the PRL and firmware seem to work great with the ROM, so I guess I'll stick to it, even if it is boring. It definitely does everything I need for it to do. Still, finding the issues with each one and helping the developers is part of the process. It's fun and part of the reason why I do what I do. Take my ASUS Transformer. That thing is old as the hills, but has multi window, android 4.4.3, windowed apps, and all manner of other things and it runs super smooth. timduru is the dang wizard of that device and refuses to let it die peacefully.
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To a degree, I definitely am with you on this. I have been with this forum since the days of my old HTC thunderbolt. There are AT LEAST 5 popular daily drivers that worked worlds better than the stock rom for that phone. My particular phone glitches out on the dialer/phone app for all Original Android ROM's meaning I am automatically limited to a TW rom. I've tried everything to fix this but nothing seems to. However, there is one that works flawlessly, Triforce 5.4. It's perfect, so far as I can tell, but is starting to show its age. It may be the only perfect ROM for our phones but is almost completely without bells and whistles, unlike the Thunderbolt, which you could save multiple working images to SD and restore if you felt like using sense one day, CM the next, and I do recall a few completely custom ones loosely based on CM that worked awesome. Anyway that's my say on it. I am sad NAE firmware capabilities don't have a nice Triforce release to go with it, but the PRL and firmware seem to work great with the ROM, so I guess I'll stick to it, even if it is boring. It definitely does everything I need for it to do. Still, finding the issues with each one and helping the developers is part of the process. It's fun and part of the reason why I do what I do. Take my ASUS Transformer. That thing is old as the hills, but has multi window, android 4.4.3, windowed apps, and all manner of other things and it runs super smooth. timduru is the dang wizard of that device and refuses to let it die peacefully.
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I just recently got off heavily modded stock and flashed Super S4 and so far it is awesome. Ktoonz's Kernel is baked in and after using recommended recovery to flash I've had no problems. It isn't heavily modded (mostly other mods baked in and some init.d tweaks) but is fast and stable and is one of the very few TW roms I'd recommend.
When I was on HTC Inspire 4G, There were easily 10 Roms (ASOP and Sense) suitable for a daily driver. For the S4 I'd be hard pressed to find 3 stable usable TW roms at a time.
I think android as a platform is changing a lot philosophically, as well. Older custom roms used to be a must have and were the main reason most users wanted root. Now everything is much more framework centric. Now root is used to add functionality through Xposed framework modules,or audio mods like Viper. Previously each and every mod had to be rom specific.
In Search of the N7 Rom to End All N7 Roms for our N910T (T-Mobile) Note 4
This file is NO LONGER under constant revision. Last change to TWIZtd rom section... June 27 2017. From now on, new info will be posted as the newest posts. Still some good info here, however...
ODDS and ENDS Before we start....
If you are looking for an N910T datafix (needed sometimes, not always, for N7 roms ported to our phones), look at these two pages for clues. (In fact there are also other models represented here.)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72388883&postcount=2218
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/snapdragon-note4-modem-bootloader-t3273816
And one more thing... I don't always make clear whether or not gapps must be flashed separately from the rom. In these roms' cases, the rule is that *usually* the gapps file is included within the rom file itself. If the rom's direction indicate needing gapps, here:
http://opengapps.org
[*****WARNING****** Updated May 25: A trojan has turned up in the first rom I talked about here, the petbede Norma v17 rom. The devs say they knew it was there and it isn't harmful. I can't chance recommending a rom that virus checkers report as having a virus. It is, say the devs, repairable by deleting the system file involved (which breaks the "nrom" app), but I'm disappointed enough that I'm deleting mention of that rom other than to refer here to my post there offering my test results finding it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72430061&postcount=2349
A Proper Introduction (sorta)
I cannot claim any authorative statements re one rom being "boss" of all the others. But in light of the time I've wasted playing with the quickly growing crop of Note 7 roms ported to run on our lowly phones (it wasn't a waste because I had fun, actually) here's one man's suggested starting place.
A few issues to get out of the way right away. One of my prime criteria for a "good" rom is one that is easily installed. And right away, this looms large.
The N7 ported roms, after all, require up to five moving parts to work:
* The rom
* The kernel (often the rom's own kernel will not work on our phones, and requires a replacement)
* The gapps (some roms, usually those installed with Aroma Installer, have them internally included, but many do not)
* A datafix (often a rom says it will seamlessly connect our t-mobile phone to the latter provider, but doesn't. A datafix file purports to enable the connection even if the rom fails to make the data connection initially).
* SuperSU (or alternative Magisk -- one or even both of these handle rooting privleges)
Next is the issue of what *order* to flash these files in. Argh. I *think* I have the order correct in my listing here... but - heh - no guarantees. I've encountered issues between a datafix file and the SuperSU file.
Now, are all these files going to play nice with your phone or / and one another?
I'll cut to the chase. My theory here, and it is simple, says that (providing the rom is designed to run on our phone) the fewer files we have to flash the better off the outcome is likely to be.
*THE ROMS*
In no particular order, then...
Let's start off easy with a Note 4 rom - that is, based on the Note 4 Marshmallow Android rom but with Galaxy 8 apps and Touchwiz and launcher. Ramrom v10 takes a few tweaks initially to get right, but is solid as rock once installed. I'd earlier given Ramrom a lackluster review, but after studying this whole galaxy (ha, did you catch that?) of Note 4 roms, went back to try again. @Ram121 is the guy behind it, and he is also behind the RamKernel, preferred by many people using our phone (the last three kernels - RC1, RC2, RC3 - he's done work well in the N910T).
Installing Ramrom required me to flash it -- gapps included within the rom -- and then flash (in this order) the Ramrom RC3 kernel, a datafix for the N910T phone, and reflash supersu (root), even though that last file is installed initially by the rom. But once that was done, I was "in like Flint." And as I say, a rock solid, and slightly more conservative, way to start your adventure in N7/N8/S8 roms. I'm linking both rom and kernels by @Ram121 because even if you don't want the rom, you may well want one of his kernels. A few of the above roms, in fact, are already running a ramkernel:
Ramrom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/ramromn7-note-7-port-t3535214
RamKernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/kernel-ramkernel-t3472138
ApocalypseX_MM
Initially, this rom was more of an also-ran. But with Version 6 (beta) it has become -- along with Race Rom -- my go-to. Single file install includes all necessary elements - rom, datafix, gapps, supersu (root) - all (via TWRP and Aroma) installing flawlessly on my N910T phone. Two additional optional files: a Mod file installs Control_X - which unlike nrom that I never really cared for - provides some excellent eye candy and beyond that additional app installs of Adaway, Root Filefolder, and the like. The second file, Ayra Sound, provides sound enhancements which are stunning even through the phone's speaker.
Again Apolcalypse_X installed *perfectly* on my N910T phone (no screen lock issues as w/ v.4 or some new Norma v18 roms). You can wait for v6 "official" but if like me you want to try the beta (which has been very stable for me):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/6-0-1-apocalypsexmrom-t3608314
@ILocDogI 's RaceRom.
This rom comes in various flavors now. First, The S7 port been very recently updated to its latest version (v11), and is a very nice, smooth rom for our N910T phone, clean and fast. One of my favorite things about it is tiny; I love having the six icons across the bottom of the screen instead of the normal five. But more seriously, I'd consider it both a daily "use this" rom and a go-to rom to back up onto your ext sd card after install (via TWRP's backup/restore features). That way, you can experiment with the other roms then restore good ol' Race Rom just how it was before you wiped and reinstalled Uncle Wiggly's Wowzer Rom (and had it totally hang your phone--and no, there is no such rom). A variant offered by RaceRom is multi-language... I've not tried that as I don't need it, but if someone else has and wants to opine, please do.
RaceRom also has a Note 4 stock-based version, and it is the *only* version with both S8 apps and also complete Samsung backup that works. I am very impressed with it, esp. if one wants wifi calling (not available on the N7 ported roms). One problem, oddly, was the camera, which seemed completely non-functional on my phone. I am going to reflash this rom later on and try the N7 ported camera with it.
Both versions of RaceRom offer a very solid experience once it is up and running, and it does install gapps and SuperSU from the single file for whichever rom you choose. *Important* - you *will* have to flash a datafix with this rom if you are using a phone other than the N910F, its default. This means one extra download for us N910T users, or likely the users of any other Note 4 phone apart from the N910F.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-30-03-2017-raceromn7-portn7-s8-apps-t3581199
TWIZtd
TWIZtd Rom - specifically for our t-mobile N910T - is also in the top three roms for me. But as of late, there isn't just one TWIZtd rom, but a growing number of 'em. One of the most unique is one based, instead of on the N7/S8, the Note 4 standard rom but with tons of N7 app tweaks. Why would we go that route, though? Perhaps because we want our wifi calling back... which does not exist on the N7 roms. And as far as stability goes... well, this one is rock solid. If you can do without wifi calling, the N7 version is also outstanding.
Installation is ultra-simple - at least it was for me. As J. R. R. Tolkien didn't quite write, "One file for quick install, One file to find them; One rom to bring them all and in my Note 4 bind them." Yeah, that's not quite right. But the rom is.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...note-4-nov-t3498755/post72255387#post72255387
Murayoshi (Various N7 roms)
@murayoshi calls himself more a translator than developer (and frankly, a number of folks providing these Chinese-based ports are in the same category). Nonetheless, he works specifically with our T-mobile N910T model and has translated and tweaked a number of roms. Right now, I'm playing with the A700 rom, which is one of his newest. Bleeding edge stuff maybe, but like I said, it's fun. I really like the rom's smoothness and quickness... maybe one of the quickest. But it is too early for me to tell whether or not it is stable. Install was easy - it needed only the rom, gapps (I used opengapps, pico), and a kernel (I go with ramrom RC2 which seems flawless w/ the N910T). It recognized data without issue and wireless quickly. Will report back if it becomes my daily rom (I've *still* not settled on that one "perfect" rom). Update 5/29 - he's added a translated version of Norma v18 to his rom list; haven't tried it yet:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-aurora-note7-port-t3601109
Dr. Ketan
Dr. Ketan rom is a few months older than some of the others, but also has had a tremendous amount of traffic. While it is hard to find the download link (one that works, anyway), once one does find it there is also plenty of help for those with various models of the Note 4. The N910T (Tmobile) phone requires 2 extra files for the rom to function correctly, one (a Dr. Ketan datafix file) flashed right after one flashes the rom itself (and before rebooting), the other an after-rom-installs fix for the messages app which is broken initially. I can say that so far, Dr. Ketan is mighty impressive. And if one wants some additional bang for the buck, a pro version is available per instructions on the rom page:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/n910g-dr-ketan-custom-rom-t2928568
Fails (so far):
So, , I could list all of 'em I've tried. BlackDog, for instance, completely failed on my phone. Even after I flashed various files in various orders to try and get it to come up. I *really* worked this rom... but... Nope. Maybe you'll have better outcomes:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...om-black-dog-910f-n7-port-6-0-1-bpj4-t3593089
This is not short. But not as long as it may get to be, this overview from one man's very existential, non-statistical, viewpoint.
Maybe it will offer a few clues.
Blessings.
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shonkin said:
In Search of the N7 Rom to End All N7 Roms for our N910T (T-Mobile) Note 4
I cannot claim any authorative statements re one rom being "boss" of all the others. But in light of the time I've wasted playing with the quickly growing crop of Note 7 roms ported to run on our lowly phones (it wasn't a waste because I had fun, actually) here's one man's suggested starting place.
A few issues to get out of the way right away. One of my prime criteria for a "good" rom is one that is easily installed. And right away, this looms large.
The N7 ported roms, after all, require up to five moving parts to work:
* The rom
* The kernel (often the rom's own kernel will not work on our phones, and requires a replacement)
* The gapps (some roms, usually those installed with Aroma Installer, have them internally included, but many do not)
* A datafix (often a rom says it will seamlessly connect our t-mobile phone to the latter provider, but doesn't. A datafix file purports to enable the connection even if the rom fails to make the data connection initially).
* SuperSU (or alternative Magisk -- one or even both of these handle rooting privleges)
Next is the issue of what *order* to flash these files in. Argh. I *think* I have the order correct in my listing here... but - heh - no guarantees. I've encountered issues between a datafix file and the SuperSU file.
Now, are all these files going to play nice with your phone or / and one another?
I'll cut to the chase. My theory here, and it is simple, says that the fewer files you have to flash the better off the outcome is likely to be.
Using that criteria, the winner so far -- and *especially* for the T-mobile N910T (other models have some issues) is the Norma v17-based @petbede 's rom (see post #1998 at below link):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/mm-aurora-norma-roms-t3576018/page200
This rom has a few rough spots but installs very well on my phone (again, the N910T T-mobile). It is a *single file.* No extra kernel, datafix (this headache is gone!), gapps, or SuperSU file. In fact, all those choices are either handled outright or given to the user to tweak choices with via one of the sweetest Aroma installer scripts I've seen. Again, the end result has a few rough edges (a weather clock with chinese characters for the city). And one must remember to activate app icon visibility via "home screen settings" > "home screen layout" > "home and app screens." For some reason that's not selected by default. But this is my winner... today. Things change in a hurry.
It should be noted that a second version of v17 is also findable in that thread, and I left some positive comments about it. It was, however, dwarfed in quality by the @petbede version.
My #2 pick? @ILocDogI 's RaceRom. This rom is a very nice, smooth rom for our N910T phone, in the end a touch cleaner than the newer, more ambitious, but also less polished Petbede rom. But it does (at least it did for me) require a bit of massaging via a datafix and quite possible re-flash of SuperSU. (I should journal this stuff when I am installing instead of trying to remember what I did!) You'll have to peruse the thread to see where to get a datafix file (unfortunately, there are a few different versions and at least one of 'em didn't work for me. Again, I should have journaled....). Use the search term (without quotes) "datafix" or "N910T" or both of 'em. It is a very solid rom once it is up and running, and has the gapps installed from inside Aroma Installer again.
Frankly, I could list all of 'em I've tried. BlackDog, for instance, completely failed on my phone. Even after I flashed various files in various orders to try and get it to come up. Nope. Another very nice looking rom had dead links. Tsk Tsk. ApocalypseX_M rom had the coolest boot graphic by far... except I could never get it to actually finish booting.
One I will be watching for is the promised Ramrom v11. Right now, v10 is available but I didn't try it due to how old it appeared compared to the newest Norma roms. @Ram121 is the guy behind it, and he is also behind the RamKernel, preferred by many people using our phone (the last two kernels he's done work well in the N910T). So something to watch for....
This is a short (believe it or not I was going to do whole paragraphs on each one) overview from one man's very existential, non-statistical, viewpoint.
Maybe it will offer a few clues.
Blessings.
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You didn't try Note 4UX rom?
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ubigred said:
You didn't try Note 4UX rom?
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No. Should I have?
Maybe give the s7 port by twiztd a shot it's quick and smooth running beast mode kernel. All in one install . Rom control included. And many different mods in a separate folder kernels,apps ,boot anise. And whatnot. Also has n7 port just as good.
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shonkin said:
No. Should I have?
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Yes. You will love it.
shonkin said:
I cannot claim any authorative statements re one rom being "boss" of all the others. But in light of the time I've wasted playing with the quickly growing crop of Note 7 roms ported to run on our lowly phones (it wasn't a waste because I had fun, actually) here's one man's suggested starting place.
A few issues to get out of the way right away. One of my prime criteria for a "good" rom is one that is easily installed. And right away, this looms large.
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What is your baseband and bootloader?
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vprasad1 said:
What is your baseband and bootloader?
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I updated a month or so back to EQC1.
ubigred said:
Yes. You will love it.
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Note 4UX is older than the current iteration of these roms.... but I do note it has wifi phone calls, which may be unique among these roms. That's not a big deal for me... but a plus nonetheless. If anyone knows of other N7 rom ports with wifi calling, please do list 'em here.
shonkin said:
Note 4UX is older than the current iteration of these roms.... but I do note it has wifi phone calls, which may be unique among these roms. That's not a big deal for me... but a plus nonetheless. If anyone knows of other N7 rom ports with wifi calling, please do list 'em here.
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It also includes fully functioning User profiles.
This will probably be my daily driver.
Twisted Rom might be a contender.
I would love a Nougat rom that changes the emoji in the SwiftKey to the latest set.
I look forward to your detailed reviews
Quick update: I had Race Rom at #2. Today the devs released v9... and it is smaller, faster, and smoother even than the v8.2 was. Doubtless this comment will be out of date by tomorrow. Hehehe.
captivated1971 said:
Maybe give the s7 port by twiztd a shot it's quick and smooth running beast mode kernel. All in one install . Rom control included. And many different mods in a separate folder kernels,apps ,boot anise. And whatnot. Also has n7 port just as good.
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[UPDATE: I installed the newest version. Install was great, and no datafix needed! But alas... the keyboard is still a mess and on top of that when I opened up the camera to snap a picture at work the phone rebooted. So back to race rom v 9 for me.]
I did try this a week or two (maybe three?) ago. I don't remember what happened to put me off it, frankly. Should have journaled this stuff. I would observe that since you use it (I suspect, anyway) it illustrates how unique installing these roms can be. Human error (mine?) can creep in rather easily. Or the use of a file (particularly that datafix file) can be problematic, since there are differently made files floating around out there.
Any of the mentioned ROMs have camera quality / unlimited recording time mods? Haven't seen it listed as a feature in any of the port OPs.
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shonkin said:
I did try this a week or two (maybe three?) ago. I don't remember what happened to put me off it, frankly. Should have journaled this stuff. I would observe that since you use it (I suspect, anyway) it illustrates how unique installing these roms can be. Human error (mine?) can creep in rather easily. Or the use of a file (particularly that datafix file) can be problematic, since there are differently made files floating around out there.
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Fyi: it was updated on May 20th.
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ubigred said:
Fyi: it was updated on May 20th.
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Right. Just tried it last night. Unfortunately, it has keyboard issues on boot-up (cap key weirdness that can be overcome but not neatly)... but using the camera caused my phone to reboot. I went back to race rom v9. This isn't ready for prime time yet.... though the installation itself did not require a datafix. That's a good thing.
shonkin said:
Right. Just tried it last night. Unfortunately, it has keyboard issues on boot-up (cap key weirdness that can be overcome but not neatly)... but using the camera caused my phone to reboot. I went back to race rom v9. This isn't ready for prime time yet.... though the installation itself did not require a datafix. That's a good thing.
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Thank you for the feedback
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shonkin said:
In Search of the N7 Rom to End All N7 Roms for our N910T (T-Mobile) Note 4
[Update- May 23 2017: My opinion of Race Rom, due to a new v9 release, has gone up to the point it is now my daily rom. The devs are quite professional in their communication, and the rom is both leaner than its predecessor and feature-full.]
I cannot claim any authorative statements re one rom being "boss" of all the others. But in light of the time I've wasted playing with the quickly growing crop of Note 7 roms ported to run on our lowly phones (it wasn't a waste because I had fun, actually) here's one man's suggested starting place.
A few issues to get out of the way right away. One of my prime criteria for a "good" rom is one that is easily installed. And right away, this looms large.
The N7 ported roms, after all, require up to five moving parts to work:
* The rom
* The kernel (often the rom's own kernel will not work on our phones, and requires a replacement)
* The gapps (some roms, usually those installed with Aroma Installer, have them internally included, but many do not)
* A datafix (often a rom says it will seamlessly connect our t-mobile phone to the latter provider, but doesn't. A datafix file purports to enable the connection even if the rom fails to make the data connection initially).
* SuperSU (or alternative Magisk -- one or even both of these handle rooting privleges)
Next is the issue of what *order* to flash these files in. Argh. I *think* I have the order correct in my listing here... but - heh - no guarantees. I've encountered issues between a datafix file and the SuperSU file.
Now, are all these files going to play nice with your phone or / and one another?
I'll cut to the chase. My theory here, and it is simple, says that the fewer files you have to flash the better off the outcome is likely to be.
Using that criteria, the winner so far -- and *especially* for the T-mobile N910T (other models have some issues) is the Norma v17-based @petbede 's rom (see post #1998 at below link):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/mm-aurora-norma-roms-t3576018/page200
This rom has a few rough spots but installs very well on my phone (again, the N910T T-mobile). It is a *single file.* No extra kernel, datafix (this headache is gone!), gapps, or SuperSU file. In fact, all those choices are either handled outright or given to the user to tweak choices with via one of the sweetest Aroma installer scripts I've seen. Again, the end result has a few rough edges (a weather clock with chinese characters for the city). And one must remember to activate app icon visibility via "home screen settings" > "home screen layout" > "home and app screens." For some reason that's not selected by default. But this is my winner... today. Things change in a hurry.
It should be noted that a second version of v17 is also findable in that thread, and I left some positive comments about it. It was, however, dwarfed in quality by the @petbede version.
My #2 pick? @ILocDogI 's RaceRom.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-30-03-2017-raceromn7-portn7-s8-apps-t3581199
This rom is a very nice, smooth rom for our N910T phone, in the end a touch cleaner than the newer, more ambitious, but also less polished Petbede rom. But it does (at least it did for me) require a bit of massaging via a datafix and quite possible re-flash of SuperSU. (I should journal this stuff when I am installing instead of trying to remember what I did!) You'll have to peruse the thread to see where to get a datafix file (unfortunately, there are a few different versions and at least one of 'em didn't work for me. Again, I should have journaled....). Use the search term (without quotes) "datafix" or "N910T" or both of 'em. It is a very solid rom once it is up and running, and has the gapps installed from inside Aroma Installer again.
UPDATE: new version 9 of this rom is leaner than ever and now threatening to take over number one spot...
Frankly, I could list all of 'em I've tried. BlackDog, for instance, completely failed on my phone. Even after I flashed various files in various orders to try and get it to come up. Nope. Another very nice looking rom had dead links. Tsk Tsk. ApocalypseX_M rom had the coolest boot graphic by far... except I could never get it to actually finish booting.
One I will be watching for is the promised Ramrom v11. Right now, v10 is available but I didn't try it due to how old it appeared compared to the newest Norma roms. @Ram121 is the guy behind it, and he is also behind the RamKernel, preferred by many people using our phone (the last two kernels he's done work well in the N910T). So something to watch for....
This is a short (believe it or not I was going to do whole paragraphs on each one) overview from one man's very existential, non-statistical, viewpoint.
Maybe it will offer a few clues.
Blessings.
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I was going to make a similar post about race rom so im glad you did. In my opinion it is the best rom for n910t2 i have. Newest ui.. i love this more than lineage os nougat. But only because there is no official air command port like the oculus port.. if someone officially port air command, not like the tacky one with app drawer icon but one that launches when we eject the pen and closes when we inject the pen, then nougat would be reconsidered.. edge screen port would be nice to.. race rom can use some features i had on dreamux but still awesome without them.. race rom #1!!
Screenshots for Race rom?
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lowkeyst4tus said:
I was going to make a similar post about race rom so im glad you did. In my opinion it is the best rom for n910t2 i have. Newest ui.. i love this more than lineage os nougat. But only because there is no official air command port like the oculus port.. if someone officially port air command, not like the tacky one with app drawer icon but one that launches when we eject the pen and closes when we inject the pen, then nougat would be reconsidered.. edge screen port would be nice to.. race rom can use some features i had on dreamux but still awesome without them.. race rom #1!!
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@shonkin
I've ran quite a few roms. Roms are like battery life, subjective. Depending on preference, you might like any current rom but next version/update you might not. Single file and organized first post layout is ideal, especially for newcomers, when you sweat and hands shake before your first flash
Some threads with multiple Roms in it are far more organized than some with a single Rom.
I've ran blackdog, might be confusing which files to download. V3 consisted of three files just for the rom. V3 rom, v3 update, v3-1 update.
V3.1 single. Don't remember if required data fix.
ApocalypseX_M didn't boot? It won't without gapps, usually roms without gapps will still boot. That boot animation I've seen it in some thread about boot animations.
I mostly run TWIZtd n7, Project L N7 v10, or pvsgh debloated/deodexed qc1. In that order. Depending on the weather and outfit
While flashing, cpu gets the device pretty hot, even without a case/cover on. Add a white boot animation at max brightness and soon you'll be reading mmc_read_fail threads so i try to stay away from these rom types.
Most if not all of these roms are pretty good and can be DD. Now you look for whats not working or missing. When they were coming out you used to look for what wAs working
This was and is a very much needed thread! Thanks @shonkin!
xda_johndoe said:
@shonkin
I've ran quite a few roms. Roms are like battery life, subjective. Depending on preference, you might like any current rom but next version/update you might not. Single file and organized first post layout is ideal, especially for newcomers, when you sweat and hands shake before your first flash
Some threads with multiple Roms in it are far more organized than some with a single Rom.
I've ran blackdog, might be confusing which files to download. V3 consisted of three files just for the rom. V3 rom, v3 update, v3-1 update.
V3.1 single. Don't remember if required data fix.
ApocalypseX_M didn't boot? It won't without gapps, usually roms without gapps will still boot. That boot animation I've seen it in some thread about boot animations.
I mostly run TWIZtd n7, Project L N7 v10, or pvsgh debloated/deodexed qc1. In that order. Depending on the weather and outfit
While flashing, cpu gets the device pretty hot, even without a case/cover on. Add a white boot animation at max brightness and soon you'll be reading mmc_read_fail threads so i try to stay away from these rom types.
Most if not all of these roms are pretty good and can be DD. Now you look for whats not working or missing. When they were coming out you used to look for what wAs working
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Which rom have you played with that's good with battery life? Im using twztd n7. I like the rom except the battery life