S7 Edge Memory Internal vs. SD Card - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

I have a S7 Edge with 32 GB internal and added a 128 GB SD card. I got a free 256GB card with my defunct Note 7, but it was corrupted and never worked. My issue is moving things to the SD Card. I am constantly getting "not enough space" issues lately with adding new apps. I have tried a few "move to SD" apps, but they seem to think of my internal and SD card memory as one (which was supposed to be a feature), but when I am trying to add apps, the phone is thinking that I only have the 32 GB (actually less because of basic stuff). I go to the "move to SD apps" and they say nothing needs to be moved. Any help would be appreciated.

Tarheel61 said:
I have a S7 Edge with 32 GB internal and added a 128 GB SD card. I got a free 256GB card with my defunct Note 7, but it was corrupted and never worked. My issue is moving things to the SD Card. I am constantly getting "not enough space" issues lately with adding new apps. I have tried a few "move to SD" apps, but they seem to think of my internal and SD card memory as one (which was supposed to be a feature), but when I am trying to add apps, the phone is thinking that I only have the 32 GB (actually less because of basic stuff). I go to the "move to SD apps" and they say nothing needs to be moved. Any help would be appreciated.
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go to setting > apps > select an app > storage and try to move it to sdcard.
(when you want to install app it will install on internal storage and then you can move it)

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confirm/explain internal storage

I read the FAQ thread and it says that of the galaxy s2's 16Gb internal storage, only 2Gb is user-available. Is that really true? I figured there was probably some other thread discussing this in more detail but I couldn't find it. Any pointers?
I can understand android + touchwiz taking up a little, but that difference is too huge. Does anybody know how the 16Gb is used, and how much is available for different purposes? Eg I could imagine maybe they have user-installed apps and user-data as two different partitions within the (16Gb - android - touchwiz).
For comparison my understanding of the sensation and evo 3d is that both of those have a 4Gb chip for internal storage and both have 1Gb user-available.
on my sgs2, there's about 2GBish of "device memory" (that's the default place for your apps, etc), 12GBish of "usb storage" (the rest of the internal memory) and 15GBish from my removable microSD card.
That 2GB is for installed applications storage, you get roughly 12GB of free flash memory storage to store whatever you want and the rest of it the phone uses for non-accessible things - system and OS-related, etc.
By the way, it's GB (GigaBYTE) not Gb (GigaBIT), or GiB (GibiBYTE) if you want to get more pedantic. A 'bit' is roughly 8x smaller than a 'byte'.
As I know, HTC sensation got 1gb internal storage for installing apps, and it had not extra space for storage.
thanks
Thanks everybody, having 2+12 Gbyte makes a lot more sense than just 2Gbyte. Glad to hear it does indeed have the space it's "supposed" to.
jasontschan said:
As I know, HTC sensation got 1gb internal storage for installing apps, and it had not extra space for storage.
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it comes with an 8GB microsd card
So the SGS II has:
- internal memory : 2GB
- internal SD: 12GB
- external SD: up to 32GB
My question is, can you install an application on all of those mentioned above?
Or only on internal memory and external sd? Because on the app's properties page u have the option to move it only to internal memory or external SD.
Why?
Sorry if this question was asked before, I'm new to Android, and I did make a search before I asked, but I couldn't find this information.
I installed App2SD, but the movable apps only moved to the INTERNAL SD, not the external_sd.
All the things that installed and or created by the user or the apps themselves would go to the INTERNAL SD, and the external_sd is only used by the user manually putting things into it.
Since SGS II is one of the first Androids with 16GB "internal" Mem PLUS option to insert msd-card app2sd-apps are not modified to move to the "external_sd" which is actually a 2nd sd.
What I dunno if Android itself would allow to read apps from a second sd.
With time there will be an app that can manage this but not yet ............
Sticks02 said:
A 'bit' is roughly 8x smaller than a 'byte'.
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Roughly?

Apps on SD Card?

So I'm new to this whole SD card thing, I've only owned the s6, which obviously, didn't support expandable storage. So my question is - is it possible to move apps onto the SD card slot? I understand there might be a performance hit, but for a lot of apps, I can careless about the performance of the storage on it.
I saw there was a "move to sd card" option for applications on the galaxy s5 - will there be something similar here?
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
mikesnav said:
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
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Thank you. That's good news all around. Now if only some games would store their data on the sd cards.
I currently move apps to my sd card on the Galaxy S5;, using a utility called "All in one toolbox". It allows me to move apps so they run off of my micro SD card. Does anyone know if this will work with the Galaxy S7 edge?
mikesnav said:
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
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But, if it is anything like past devices, it could have an option to "move app to SD". Has the removal of this feature been confirmed yet? We all know Adoptable Storage is gone, but what about App to SD? Is it confirmed missing, or are we just speculating?
Running MM on my S5 and the Adoptable Storage works so well, I hope Samsung change the mined about this.
Dr. Fed said:
But, if it is anything like past devices, it could have an option to "move app to SD". Has the removal of this feature been confirmed yet? We all know Adoptable Storage is gone, but what about App to SD? Is it confirmed missing, or are we just speculating?
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Pretty sure App2SD has been a mod / specific vendor addition since... a long time now. That hasn't been a part of Android for years. Removed in Jellybean maybe?
I don't know if Samsung has specifically written this in with the S7, sorry.
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the dudes who did a first impressions on it that an upcoming feature in marshmallow will allow to merge SD card storage with internal .... No idea how credible the dude is though
JoshuaFCB said:
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the dudes who did a first impressions on it that an upcoming feature in marshmallow will allow to merge SD card storage with internal .... No idea how credible the dude is though
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That is a Marshmallow feature but Google has encouraged manufacturers to remove that feature. The LG G5 and the Samsung S7 phones do not have it.
David Ruddock from Android Police says.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
PDXMatt said:
That is a Marshmallow feature but Google has encouraged manufacturers to remove that feature. The LG G5 and the Samsung S7 phones do not have it.
David Ruddock from Android Police says.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
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Is it something that be acquire through rooting?
I've got the option to move apps to SD straight out of the box. Go to the Apps, find the app, go to Storage. It's there. Not every app has it but lots do.
Apps on SD Cards Disappearing from Edge
I was able to move some downloaded apps to the SD card. Then I put a few on the Apps Edge. But I found that, if I reboot or power off/on, the apps (not just the icon, but the apps themselves) disappear from the Edge. Has anyone else seen this?
You can do it through adoptable storage:
https://youtu.be/H31UOrXJKH4
I got my S7 Edge yesterday & love it.
However I'm having trouble transferring apps to the SD card. In my case, I can successfully move the app via the Application | Change Storage Location option BUT when I look at the SD card in a file manager, it has only moved the folder structure & the app files remain in internal storage.
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
Cheers.
runwaypimp said:
I got my S7 Edge yesterday & love it.
However I'm having trouble transferring apps to the SD card. In my case, I can successfully move the app via the Application | Change Storage Location option BUT when I look at the SD card in a file manager, it has only moved the folder structure & the app files remain in internal storage.
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
Cheers.
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I am having the exact same issue. Says it moves the apps, but the internal storage and SD card usages do not reflect this; the corresponding directories on the SD are size 0 and empty as well.
go to settings/aplication manager. find the app you want to see if it can go to SD and go to Storage. There you can see if there is Change button .
i mooved many apps to my SD but when i restart my phone i didnt had worked apps.
gpap2004 said:
go to settings/aplication manager. find the app you want to see if it can go to SD and go to Storage. There you can see if there is Change button .
i mooved many apps to my SD but when i restart my phone i didnt had worked apps.
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Sorry but the only thing that happens is a folder is created on the SD to store the app. data. Nobodies apps are moving over to the SD card.

transfering apps to the SD card

Can someone check the ability to transfer apps to the SD card? I have a Verizon S7 Edge, when I transfer an app to the SD card it says it moves but nothing seems to happen. The amount to storage on the card doesn't change and no new files are created. I have tried this with Audible and Strava.
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Can someone check the ability to transfer apps to the SD card? I have a Verizon S7 Edge, when I transfer an app to the SD card it says it moves but nothing seems to happen. The amount to storage on the card doesn't change and no new files are created. I have tried this with Audible and Strava.
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Yes, seems to be broken for me as well, it says to move and also shows it being on the external sd in the application manager afterwards, but the taken storage is the same on internal and external. It did create the subfolder in Android/obb for me on the external sd, but it was empty. I also tried to move the file within the folder by hand into the folder on the external, but the game simply wouldn't load afterwards (tried it with Implosion), just stayed on a black screen after the first starting screen.
Ok, found the problem, when you move the app from internal storage to external sd from within settings - > applications, it moves parts of the app from the internal data folder to the Android folder on the internal sd, what is pretty pointless...
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You could enable Adoptable Storage so that some of your external SD card will be used for internal memory: http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
I know, but even while i have a class 10 card, i don't want the speed impact when putting all on the sd, also I'd like to use the internal storage to its full potential and just put some certain apps to the external sd, but thanks anyways.
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Samsung disabled the adaptive storage option. Here is the response I got from Samsung on the app data issue. I looks like they know the data isn't moving.
"I have checked our resources and found that whenever an app is moved to the SD card, only the app and the dependencies of the application for the Operating System to identify the app on the SD card are only moved. Data associated with the app is not moved to the SD card.
Let’s hope that our future updates should allow the user to move the apps data to the SD card along with the app.
I would have surely helped you if there was any other option to move the apps data to the SD card.
I appreciate your time in writing to us. "
Argh, how annoying is this? My s7 is doing exactly the same. Nothing is actually being transferred to the sd card with their move to sd tool! I'm glad I bought a 64gb card especially (not) grrr!
Just had a thought. Has anyone tried this with an encrypted SD card? Maybe that's why....

Error moving data to SD card

Hi everyone,
I just bought a Micro SD evo+ (Samsung 64 GB) for my moto G plus. I formatted it as an internal storage. I moved few of my apps. However, I dont know how to move music and photos. There is no option for that. In the SD card menu, when I click on migrate data, it says "There was an error in estimating the data to be moved".
I was wondering if anyone can help me please.
Kind regards
I'm seeing that same error message when I try to migrate data on my G4. Has anyone any idea what's causing this and how to fix?
It's due to the security features of Marshmallow.
There is no permission for direct write access to sd card by default.
I had to format my SD card as a portable storage in order to migrate my photos and music. However, in that case, App data cannot be saved on the sd card. As an internal storage, the Apps can be saved on sd card but I could not migrate my photos and music. It is posdible that it has something to do with the Marshmallow security. I have also heard that such issue exists for 64 FB cards. I d be certain if one could try a 32 GB sd card.
Cheers
Kambiz983 said:
I had to format my SD card as a portable storage in order to migrate my photos and music. However, in that case, App data cannot be saved on the sd card. As an internal storage, the Apps can be saved on sd card but I could not migrate my photos and music. It is posdible that it has something to do with the Marshmallow security. I have also heard that such issue exists for 64 FB cards. I d be certain if one could try a 32 GB sd card.
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For the same reason Azal3a mentioned above, that's the way it works.
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I have exactly the same issue with my 128gb Samsung Evo card, but I also tried SanDisk 32gb and this didn't work
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It's due to the security features of Marshmallow.
There is no permission for direct write access to sd card by default.
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But is there a solution? How do you actually make it work?
When you format the SD as "internal storage" you don't have a SD anymore, it's all one big storage space.
If you format the SD normal, then the photo and video app (and other apps like maps) might let you save on the SD - will be inside each app settings. But the apps cannot be moved on SD.
My experience with it is same as above. If you format it as internal it makes it added as virtual drive space. Kinda like adding an external drive to an Xbox. It make it virtual hard drive. Formating at removable makes it slower but an be used as raw storage standalone and removable.
SoNic67 said:
When you format the SD as "internal storage" you don't have a SD anymore, it's all one big storage space.
If you format the SD normal, then the photo and video app (and other apps like maps) might let you save on the SD - will be inside each app settings. But the apps cannot be moved on SD.
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LOL, this has been discussed dozens of times on XDA going back to the Moto G3. Even with it used as internal, there is actually very little space it will save you when you discount system apps and the apps that developers block from installing to the SD.
Actually people don't realize that they need a premium SD to even come close of the speed that internal storage has. They buy crappy SD from eBay and expect to launch apps from that... ridiculous. That's why MM imposed those restrictions.
To be used as adopted storage, the SD needs to be at least "UHS I, class 3", with 90MB/s read and write speeds.
Thanks for the useless reply. While it is true that performance will be better with faster cards there's no definite reason other cards should not be able to be used and your reply does nothing to address the original posters question. Has anyone found a solution or shall I look into wiping my phone and installing ubuntu?
Kambiz983 said:
Hi everyone,
I just bought a Micro SD evo+ (Samsung 64 GB) for my moto G plus. I formatted it as an internal storage. I moved few of my apps. However, I dont know how to move music and photos. There is no option for that. In the SD card menu, when I click on migrate data, it says "There was an error in estimating the data to be moved".
I was wondering if anyone can help me please.
Kind regards
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Try clearing cache and then migrate.

MicroSD card as adopted storage, good idea or no? and how to undo/upgrade?

As an experiment I stuck a 16 Gbyte microSD in my new Fire HD 8 tablet (2018 version, now on 6.3.1.2), and said ok to format as internal storage expansion.
As far as I can tell, no pre-installed apps or their data files were automatically moved to the microSD storage, and I haven't specifically told Fire OS to move anything, except for one thing: I was experimenting with side-loading Netflix from apk just to verify that it still won't support Chromecast on Fire tablet (it doesn't), and I noted that the Netflix app was eligible to move to external memory, so I did that. When I look under Settings/Storage, I see a summary that there is one app on the microSD card. but Fire OS won't tell me which app that it is. There is also 52 Mbytes of data simply labeled "Other". No idea what that is.
I wanted to try upgrading this to a 64-Gbyte microSD card, but as far as I can find online, there is no upgrade procedure. In fact there isn't even a downgrade procedure to remove the microSD card once used as internal storage. If it ever fails and you need to replace it, or you want to use the card for something else, or you want to use the microSD slot for data transfer via card, or you want to upgrade the card, the advice seems to be "factory reset the tablet, because there's no other way"!
That leads me to wonder if I should be doing this at all, given that it's so fragile and limited.
Knowing that Netflix was the one app I transferred, I can individually more it back to internal storage, and after that Settings/Storage agrees that there are no apps on the microSD card. There is still the mysterious unidentified 52 Mbytes "Other". Is it safe to remove the old microSD card now? Should I do that and forget about the whole "format as internal" option?
Out of curiosity, how do you know anything was moved to the SD card?
When formatted as internal storage, you should only see the device internal + the SD card as one whole internal memory pool. That's the point of formatting it as internal memory. It shouldn't know where device memory ends and SD memory starts.
If you can, please post a screen shot of the "Storage" page from "Settings".
I've attached a screen shot at the end of this post of mine with my SD card formatted as "external". Just curious how it shows this page when the SD card is set as "internal"
One other thing, I think it's not a good idea to format an SD card as internal - ever.
Except if you have extremely low device memory to begin with - like 16GB or less. 32 is barely passable, but for now, that's the most that the HD8s get. I'm getting by with it for now, but I don't use my tablet for all that much.
Also, here was Amazon's Help site information on dealing with SD cards in the HD8 8th gen (2018). The 7th gens are different in that formatting external as exFAT is an option. Not on the 2018 models. Amazon apparently didn't want to pay Microsoft for the license anymore - so, no more 4GB or bigger files on the SD card.
Insert and Manage a MicroSD Card
You can install, download, or store certain content on an external microSD card to expand your 8th Generation Fire HD 8 tablet's storage space.
Note: The following are the directions for Fire HD 8 (8th Generation) devices. If you have a 4th - 7th Generation Fire tablet, go to Insert and Manage an SD Card. Not sure which Fire tablet you have? Go to Which Fire Tablet do I have?
When you insert a microSD card for the first time, you can designate the card as internal or portable storage. If you designate the card as internal storage, you don't need to manually move content to the card or manage your download preferences. However, microSD cards that are designated as internal storage are not intended for removal from the device. If you do remove an SD card that you've designated as internal storage, you see a persistent pop-up message. To dismiss this message, either reinsert the SD card, or select "Forget" to remove any content associated with the SD card. If you remove a microSD card that is designated as internal storage your downloaded content may not work correctly.
Before you start:
You need to decide if you want to format your microSD card as internal storage or portable storage. If you designate your microSD card as internal storage, do not remove it from the device. If you do remove the microSD card, you must either reinsert the card immediately or select "Forget SD Card" from the pop up message that appears. If you select "Forget SD Card" then you lose all the data on your microSD card.
Your tablet supports FAT32 formatted microSD cards for portable storage. If your microSD card uses a different format (such as exFAT), it is reformatted during the setup process, and any information stored on the card is lost.
You can use all classes of Ultra High Speed (UHS) microSD cards up to 400 GB in size. For non-UHS microSD cards, Amazon recommends Class 10 microSD cards for optimal performance. Class 2 microSD cards may not perform enough to support video playback or capturing burst mode photos.
If you're using a Fire Kid's Edition tablet, make sure that you are in the adult profile before inserting the microSD card. You cannot set up a microSD card from a child profile.
To insert a microSD card:
Hold your Fire tablet vertically, with the front-facing camera in the top center. The microSD card slot is on the upper right side of your device.
Open the microSD card cover and turn it slightly to show the microSD card slot.
Push gently until it locks into place.
To remove your microSD card:
Swipe down from the top of the screen and tap the Settings (gear) icon.
Tap Storage. Tap Safely Remove SD Card, and then tap OK.
Open the microSD card cover and gently press on the microSD card to remove it.
If you designate a microSD card as portable storage, you can manage what content is installed, downloaded, or stored on your microSD card. Not all content types can be saved to portable storage.
To manage your preferences (for microSD cards designated as portable storage):
Swipe down from the top of the screen, tap the Settings (gear) icon, and then tap Storage.
Under SD Card, tap a switch next to a content category to turn microSD card support on or off. By default, all supported content categories are downloaded to the microSD card.
Tap SD Card Storage and then tap a content category to manage content stored on the microSD card.
Note: If you have multiple profiles on your device, content downloaded to the microSD card is restricted to the profile that downloaded it.
To move content to the microSD card:
Music:
Tap Music from the Home screen.
Tap the Menu icon or swipe in from the left side of the screen, and then tap Settings.
Tap Transfer All Offline Music, then tap Transfer All to SD Card.
Prime Videos, books and periodicals, and photos and personal videos: Delete the content from your device, then re download it after you have inserted a microSD card, designated the card as removable storage, and selected the option to save these content types to the card.
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I say this was on Amazon's help site, because this is no longer there - not in any form that resembles the above at all. What I copied was the cached version from a couple months ago. Now, Amazon's help is overly simplified and totally useless.
Screen shot below...
DJames1 said:
As an experiment I stuck a 16 Gbyte microSD in my new Fire HD 8 tablet (2018 version, now on 6.3.1.2), and said ok to format as internal storage expansion.
As far as I can tell, no pre-installed apps or their data files were automatically moved to the microSD storage, and I haven't specifically told Fire OS to move anything, except for one thing: I was experimenting with side-loading Netflix from apk just to verify that it still won't support Chromecast on Fire tablet (it doesn't), and I noted that the Netflix app was eligible to move to external memory, so I did that. When I look under Settings/Storage, I see a summary that there is one app on the microSD card. but Fire OS won't tell me which app that it is. There is also 52 Mbytes of data simply labeled "Other". No idea what that is.
I wanted to try upgrading this to a 64-Gbyte microSD card, but as far as I can find online, there is no upgrade procedure. In fact there isn't even a downgrade procedure to remove the microSD card once used as internal storage. If it ever fails and you need to replace it, or you want to use the card for something else, or you want to use the microSD slot for data transfer via card, or you want to upgrade the card, the advice seems to be "factory reset the tablet, because there's no other way"!
That leads me to wonder if I should be doing this at all, given that it's so fragile and limited.
Knowing that Netflix was the one app I transferred, I can individually more it back to internal storage, and after that Settings/Storage agrees that there are no apps on the microSD card. There is still the mysterious unidentified 52 Mbytes "Other". Is it safe to remove the old microSD card now? Should I do that and forget about the whole "format as internal" option?
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You can considered to backup your SD card contents to your PC or tablet's internal storage when you formatted as an internal storage.
You must be select Use as portable storage.
joeldf said:
Out of curiosity, how do you know anything was moved to the SD card?
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My Fired HD 8 tablet is the 16 Gbyte model, so it doesn't have much memory. After initial setup it reported 7.x Gbytes free, presumably after accounting for the OS and Amazon bloatware.
After inserting a 16 Gbyte microSD card and formatting it as Internal, the tablet still only shows 7.x Gbytes free, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I've installed a couple of apps, but no more than a few hundred Mbytes. Yes, it was definitely formatted as Internal.
Under Storage it still distinguishes between the internal memory and the microSD card in the details, and I can drill down to see contents of the microSD card. It says the card contains one app and 52 Mbytes labeled "Other". I know that the app is Netflix, because it was the only app that offered a Move to SD option - none of the Amazon apps do. And when I move Netflix back to internal memory, the "one app" disappears from the SD card.
Don't ask me to explain it - this is what it shows.
DJames1 said:
My Fired HD 8 tablet is the 16 Gbyte model, so it doesn't have much memory. After initial setup it reported 7.x Gbytes free, presumably after accounting for the OS and Amazon bloatware.
After inserting a 16 Gbyte microSD card and formatting it as Internal, the tablet still only shows 7.x Gbytes free, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I've installed a couple of apps, but no more than a few hundred Mbytes. Yes, it was definitely formatted as Internal.
Under Storage it still distinguishes between the internal memory and the microSD card in the details, and I can drill down to see contents of the microSD card. It says the card contains one app and 52 Mbytes labeled "Other". I know that the app is Netflix, because it was the only app that offered a Move to SD option - none of the Amazon apps do. And when I move Netflix back to internal memory, the "one app" disappears from the SD card.
Don't ask me to explain it - this is what it shows.
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I don't really understand why you are doing all that.
7 GB is more than enough space to install plenty of apps. Use your SD card to save your music and movies on it. Netflix, YouTube, Deezer, Google Music and probably every other video/audio app let's you save files to your SD card
DJames1 said:
My Fired HD 8 tablet is the 16 Gbyte model, so it doesn't have much memory. After initial setup it reported 7.x Gbytes free, presumably after accounting for the OS and Amazon bloatware.
After inserting a 16 Gbyte microSD card and formatting it as Internal, the tablet still only shows 7.x Gbytes free, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I've installed a couple of apps, but no more than a few hundred Mbytes. Yes, it was definitely formatted as Internal.
Under Storage it still distinguishes between the internal memory and the microSD card in the details, and I can drill down to see contents of the microSD card. It says the card contains one app and 52 Mbytes labeled "Other". I know that the app is Netflix, because it was the only app that offered a Move to SD option - none of the Amazon apps do. And when I move Netflix back to internal memory, the "one app" disappears from the SD card.
Don't ask me to explain it - this is what it shows.
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It sounds like it ended up formatting as external "portable" storage after all. That's certainly how it seems like it's reading it.
I'm stumped.
Noter2017 said:
I don't really understand why you are doing all that.
7 GB is more than enough space to install plenty of apps. Use your SD card to save your music and movies on it. Netflix, YouTube, Deezer, Google Music and probably every other video/audio app let's you save files to your SD card
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Not really. And I can understand the need for space if the tablet is the 16GB version. We have 3 HD8s in my house. My wife and son have the 2017 model and I have the 2018 model. All are the 32GB versions. My son is already getting close to his limit with about 2GB left after all the games and books he has on it using the Kids FreeTime side.
My tablet is already using just under 7GB of apps now. And I do have a 128GB SD card on it for music, and anything that can be offloaded from the main memory. If I had a 16GB model, I'd be in trouble.
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I don't really understand why you are doing all that.
7 GB is more than enough space to install plenty of apps. Use your SD card to save your music and movies on it. Netflix, YouTube, Deezer, Google Music and probably every other video/audio app let's you save files to your SD card
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It's really not enough space. I have two 16 Gbyte phones, and I'm constantly deleting and restoring apps to make space, or getting the "not enough space to update" message. My other tablet with 32 Gbytes is fine.
I'm just not sure I want to experiment with this given the warning that there is no way to "undo" once you start using an SD card for internal memory extension, other than a factory reset of the Fire tablet. Another half-baked Android feature from Google...
joeldf said:
It sounds like it ended up formatting as external "portable" storage after all. That's certainly how it seems like it's reading it.
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Nope, definitely formatted as internal storage. It seems that Amazon has been fiddling with the use of the SD card for storage in FireOS 6.3 compared to earlier versions.
When I look under Settings - Storage, I see the Internal Storage and the SD Card capacity and available memory listed separately.
There is an option for the SD card "Format as portable storage", which warns that I will lose access to any apps and data on the SD card if I proceed. There is no longer an option to format as internal storage as there was originally, which I selected when I installed the card.
I have option buttons to Move Apps and Move Data to the SD card. There is no automatic use of the SD card as an automatic extension to internal memory.
Only one app is eligible to Move to SD Card, and that app is not identified. But I know it is side-loaded Netfilx, which indeed can be moved to the SD card. None of the built-in Amazon apps are eligible. I have the option to move that app back to internal memory. I have not checked whether I can move data to the internal-storage-format SD card and then move it back because I don't want to bork the Fire tablet if it doesn't work.
Noter2017 said:
I don't really understand why you are doing all that.
7 GB is more than enough space to install plenty of apps.
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Ha! Obviously you don't play PAD, Hearthstone, etc. Or have database apps.
ldeveraux said:
Ha! Obviously you don't play PAD, Hearthstone, etc. Or have database apps.
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I don't play, sorry.
Isn't there a Magisk module to move .obb files to external SD? That would help with games at least
Noter2017 said:
I don't play, sorry.
Isn't there a Magisk module to move .obb files to external SD? That would help with games at least
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Or he could, you know, do exactly what he asked about.
FireOS lack the permission in etc/permissions/platform.xml to allow applications to write to external storage on most of not all versions of the OS. Without that permission, you have to add it and factory reset or use an app like apps2sd to format the external card as internal 'for real aka adoptable storage' to be honest, I don't know if FireOS actually does this or just tells you it does.
the problem with adoptable storage is the Micro SD will only work on that device and if the device ever stops working all that data is lost so I just use root options to move apps to the Micro SD. also you can change the card to a different card without a factory reset but it will unlink the old Micro SD permanently losing all of the data on it and will reformat the new one

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