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UK Nexus

Hi quick question,
I just managed to sell my htc hd2 for £390 so am about to order my nexus one! (im in the UK) other UK buyers can you tell me how much its all coming to roughly, i understand its about £340 on the credit card from google then probably about another £60 from DHL once they invoice you?
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
What i was mainly concerned with was that I did hear this may effect gps/maps and sat nav for uk users and that we may not be able to use turn by turn in uk? This may not be true, its just something i remmber reading on another forum?
any thoughts would be appreciated
cheers

Well I believe the UK Nexus will have multi-touch.
I have my Nexus already running Google Nav as it works as per the old method for Hero/Dream.
It depends if you're planning on rooting it or not, if you are then you'll be putting a custom ROM on anyway, which will probably have multi-touch..etc (Cyan is already working on it).
Also the UK will more than likely have a T-mobile brading...etc.
Your Choice.
I have had my DHL bill as yet but it was a tad shy of £355 I think (depends on the exchange rate at the time).

yeah i think by all sounds rooting seems to be the way to go once peeps have had time to iron it out. havent had android phone before but like all i hear, i had the htc hd2 for about 4 hours before i was convinced winmo was a pile of ****! i think i may take the plunge and go for it -my GF keeps saying why dont i just get an Iphone! i think i need this phone to show her why!

If the euro Nexus does have multitouch there's nothing to stop Google updating those US phones sold to UK users - the hardware will be identical.

How do I test multi touch as I thought Eclair supports it out the box? I tried multi touch paint from market and it seems to work fine.

Use Dolphin Browser, this supports multitouch.
We KNOW the phones support it, its just Google couldn't release to US handsets for some reason to do with Apple and copyright??? not entirely sure.

The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
You will need to install a custom version of Maps for Google Maps Navigation to work outside the US. Keep in mind there are some limitations. Search for the thread in the Dream Android Development forum to read how to install and what the limitations are.

yamanote said:
The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
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Exactly what I thought. I prefer the double tap

There is, afaik, no "UK Nexus" and "US Nexus".
They're the same.
If the preinstalled apps in the version sold to US citizens don't have multitouch, the ones sold to Brits won't either.
Same hardware and software, only if you're having it sent to UK, you get the option of getting an adapter for you charger separately.
It's explained on the official support page, which I'm not allowed to link to.

Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!

John Cipolletti said:
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
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The Neuxs One is a phone made for the whole world, so importing it will not result in problems with coverage as it supports the mostly used 3g bands around the world.
Also noone is importing the Nexus One to the UK since Google is specifically targetting UK residents and must of course provide customer service to them.
As for other countries which google is not really selling the phone to I don't know, but I assume that the warranty is world wide and you should not have trouble returning it.

fryarch said:
Hi quick question,
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
SC

ScaredyCat said:
I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
SC
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.

m00moo said:
It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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Really? How did it update these apps exactly? I had no 3g/edge/gprs or wifi when I set up. Are you suggesting that OTB there are multiple app versions? Are you saying that if you happend to be in the US and used a UK sim you'd get UK apps? I doubt that very very much, particularly as a SIM is not even required to setup.
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Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
TA DA

m00moo said:
Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
TA DA
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ScaredyCat said:
LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed

m00moo said:
ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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I'm also guessing that it didn;t to the laser etching as i signed in to gmail.
SC

I take it there's still no confirmation as to whether it will be available sim-free from an EU webstore when it is offered on Vodafone? In fact, unless things change, when it is subsidised by VF, it may be a case of signing up to a vodafone contract on google.com and still importing the handset. If there is some sort of google.co.uk offering, then presumably the price will reflect the VAT element.

i got one from ebay 470 free shipping..
Works fine so far, how do i get the maps working? whats the old hero method? Ive never had an hero lol

Xperia Z3: The Australian Thread

Hey Guys!
So the Xperia Z3 went on pre-order on the 1st of October with orders landing on doorsteps this past week.
Those who won a PS4 with their order have also been notified by now, and those orders begin shipping next week.
I personally think I may have been one of the first to order at 9:12am direct from Sony Online, as I was also selected as a winner for the PS4. (yay!)
This thread will be a general area for Australian owners and potential owners to hang out, ask questions, get advice and get help quickly and within your time zone.
If anyone helps you or offers you advice don't forget to hit the ":good: Thanks" button in the bottom left corner of their post!
Please let me know if there's any important Australian specific information and I will put it here in the OP!

Qn: Is flashing a generic Aus firmware (ie on an Optus, Voda, Telstra, Virgin phone) as simple us using Xperifirm to download, and Flashtool to decrypt, build and then flash?

Assuming the models are the same I don't see why not.
I know one of the carriers was meant to carry an exclusive model that also worked with their new 4G bands that they were rolling out.
The one I received from Sony directly is the D6653 model.

Any idea where i can buy one not tied up to a carrier? I'm at Brisbane CBD at the moment

It's in stock at Sony Australia: https://www.sony.com.au/product/xperia+z3

mundixx said:
Any idea where i can buy one not tied up to a carrier? I'm at Brisbane CBD at the moment
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I got mine from Yatango Shopping (previously called Mobicity).
Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk

how much is the phone and where can you buy it unlocked?
my sister wants to switch from her iphone 4s to the Z3.

retail from Sony AU is $859. Slightly higher pricepoint than their previous flagships.
Yatango is ~$799 i believe at the moment.
There may be cheaper options at present from HK/UK (Clove / Handtec) (exchange rate and shipping dependant)

sephstyler said:
retail from Sony AU is $859. Slightly higher pricepoint than their previous flagships.
Yatango is ~$799 i believe at the moment.
There may be cheaper options at present from HK/UK (Clove / Handtec) (exchange rate and shipping dependant)
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I got mine outright unlocked from Optus (no bloat or Optus apps loaded on it either) for $799.
There are a few issues with these handsets regarding build quality, so better to buy in Aus and get your 2 years wty imo :good:

What colours are available from Optus?

sephstyler said:
What colours are available from Optus?
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Optus got black, white and copper
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Anyone know if Virgin will get the copper color? Website only has black.

sw25 said:
Anyone know if Virgin will get the copper color? Website only has black.
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If they haven't got it at launch, I highly doubt they will get it later. Give them a call though!

Hey guys, got my Z3 on Saturday and I'm loving it! Great phone, except for one major issue... I can't make phone calls at my workplace, despite it being in a strong Optus reception area of Melbourne CBD. Nobody else at work has a problem with Optus, and callers can hear me perfectly, but I cannot hear them. All I hear is a very broken up sound, like when you are in a poor reception area. If I force the phone into GSM only mode, it works. And it works fine in other areas that I've tried, albeit none of them were big buildings in the CBD.
There is another user on Whirlpool reporting the exact same issues with 2 Z3's on Optus. I'm not sure how to proceed with this. Optus technical support escalated the issue for me and were going to organise to have the phone replaced, although I really doubt that will solve anything.

Hey @tooch1, I posted on whirlpool forums some time back about having this issue but no one seemed to notice or even care.
It's happened on 3 z3's (one I purchased from eglobal which I've returned, and 2 optus outright handsets – 1 which I got replaced and another that I'm currently using).
I've diagnosed the issue to only occur when I'm connected to WiFi AND using 4G. However if I disconnect from WiFi its fine. Same holds true if I stick to keeping WiFi connected but switch to GSM only mode.. It's really odd. I'm wondering if it's a software issue because i don't know if I could be THAT unlucky to have had 3 faulty devices

Not gloating, just trying to help - I have not experienced this when on optus 4g/wifi (Melbourne) - meaning device specific I guess. Confirmed by torrenting off apple store free wifi whilst on voice call.
Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk

To me it sounds like the device isn't automatically switching back to 3G to make the call for whatever reason.
As far as I know Optus has no announced plans to do VoLTE which means that either the phone is getting tricked into thinking it's possible, or it's broken.
For what it's worth, I've never had this issue on Vodafone but I did leave Optus as soon as I possibly could while I was with them to jump back to Voda. Far better service and quality.

Are people buying outright or on plan? If outright where from and how much?

Outright, $799 Yatango online (but they can be difficult to deal with eg selling things not in stock but marking as in stock)
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Anyone else getting crackling from their speakers? Can someone confirm playing polaris ringtone causes excessive crackling?

FW Upgrade Rolling Out...

475MB... Isnt MM... Nothing more to be said. But, it looks like it fixes some of the first nags... Looking forward to getting it, still not rolled out to UK STV100-4
The BlackBerry Priv gets its first monthly maintenance patch via a 475 MB OTA update. While this particular update isn’t a Marshmallow overhaul, it does offer a bunch of new changes, improvements, and optimizations.
BlackBerry’s official blog outlines the major changes in the update including:
An improved camera: We’re implemented a number of tweaks that improve the speed of our camera app, and re-tuned it for better low-light image quality.
Better performance: We’ve also tweaked the PRIV’s software to improve overall system performance.
Improved stability: The update further includes a number of adjustments designed to improve device reliability and reduce instances of crashing and freezing.
Enhanced security: Lastly, the release includes December’s security patches – rest easy knowing your device is protected against the latest Android security threats.
The blog also mentions that the update is now available to all BlackBerry Priv units purchased through ShopBlackBerry.com by checking for system updates in the settings menu. Carrier versions’ update will begin rolling out on December 7.
BlackBerry’s official apps will also be updated via the Google Play Store starting December 14 with new camera filters and keyboard tweaks. The Hub & Contacts apps will also be updated to support WhatsApp.
DTEK will also be updated with new ways for your device to notify you of suspicious activity with sensitive information performed by your apps.
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Tch, we have an OTA update URL, but there's no way to load it onto the phone.
Guess I have to wait a week.

I got my priv from amazon, and I got the update by mashing the check button over and over.
The main thing I notice is that it runs a LOT cooler now.

thurask said:
Tch, we have an OTA update URL, but there's no way to load it onto the phone.
Guess I have to wait a week.
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well FW is out with update but the play store is not updated with new versions:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackberry.keyboard

The updated apps will be out soon. Still have yet to receive my update even though i Purchased mine from CPW.

Also not received the update as yet and bought in the UK from C(rap)PW unlocked

Oh yeh an update! - now do I install it, or put it off in the hope I manage to execute this su binary sat on my phone.... (busybox works via adb shell, not locally on the phone)
edit: purchased direct from rim, uk model, STV100-4
Update went well - Only noticeable difference (so far) is that it does not play the screenshot sound when the phone is on mute. Yay!

Viperlin said:
Oh yeh an update! - now do I install it, or put it off in the hope I manage to execute this su binary sat on my phone.... (busybox works via adb shell, not locally on the phone)
edit: purchased direct from rim, uk model, STV100-4
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Interesting, Purchased mine from CPW and nothing! No Carrier interference either... DO i really have to wait until the 7th

fkofilee said:
Interesting, Purchased mine from CPW and nothing! No Carrier interference either... DO i really have to wait until the 7th
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It appears so, CPW must qualify as a carrier... OR they are restricting the rollout somehow, IMEI lottery?
I am curious, did the CPW phone come with all the american "emergency broadcast" options (like earthquakes and amber alerts) under the same menu as APN settings?
Did it come with the "Demo" mode for showing off the phone on the shelf?
and have you found a way to turn off "lock screen when you put the phone down"?

CharlesW123 said:
Also not received the update as yet and bought in the UK from C(rap)PW unlocked
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The units CPW sold came from O2.
So, "from CPW" really means "an unlocked (and branded) O2 phone".

m3ta said:
The units CPW sold came from O2.
So, "from CPW" really means "an unlocked (and branded) O2 phone".
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Mine isnt O2 branded.... :/
How did you find that out?

fkofilee said:
Mine isnt O2 branded.... :/
How did you find that out?
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First info I got about this was from giffgaff (which is an O2 MVNO, they should know).
I am not aware that CPW is selling non-O2 Privs, but... I do not have confirmation.
Tell me something, when you reboot, if you look carefully at the screen, do you see an O2 background for a split second before boot terminates? It's just a split second, but it's really full screen and hard to miss if you stare at it. I rebooted a CPW Priv 2 days ago just to check that and there it was.

Actually I think CPW had exclusivity for 2 months and do offer the handset on O2/Voda/iD - so I would not expect them to be carrier-branded at all, CPW branded maybe.
US handsets had bootloader logos for all carriers and simply selected the carriers bootsplash theme I believe.

Viperlin said:
US handsets had bootloader logos for all carriers and simply selected the carriers bootsplash theme I believe.
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This!
unlocked-unbranded BB10 devices are picking up the provider logos depending on your SIM.
Think that BBandroid is not different

Nope it isnt any different, powering off your device and powering it back on will show your SIM Provider Logo Splash Screen
O2 does the same, Voda does the same.

I can't send MMS after update. Anyone else. I tried changing APN.

Hmmm Unsure... Which Network Provider?

momulah said:
I can't send MMS after update. Anyone else. I tried changing APN.
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MMS working fine, EE

Thanks..I'll check out what's causing it..
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MMS working fine, EE
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How are bout new keyboard ???

New update from EE UK but still no MM.

Just received this OTA - v10m-234-30... I'm wondering what the hold off is for releasing MM. I'm really not the fussed as I've tried all available Mm firmware but always come back to LP. I just feel it has less bugs and much better battery. I will post an update to this release in a few days.

Received and OTA - V10l
It's 394.71 MB
I was expecting an MM update.

Can you sniff the KDZ using the instructions I put here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64612430&postcount=4
It's so that those of us who bought a European unlocked G4 can use the EE wifi calling.

sniff kdz please

Smells good.
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I've tried but doesn't come up with any thing regarding update link, may only work when there is an available update but because i've already installed it, its saying I'm up to date...sorry pal.

I do love the G4 and I know most people probably think this is crazy so late in the game and with the G5 or V10 just around the corner but I ditched my EE branded G4, sold it.. and used what cash I had to put towards a new Unbranded one. Heres why:
I felt the EE bloat and bootloader were causing issues.. Where I live in Newcastle UK, I would get 1 or 2 bars 4G signal on my EE branded G4.. my Unbranded G4 a constant 3-5 bars, My Wifi, would often drop out on EE. now is solid, even on my old 54g extender. Sometimes I would recieve a txt to say Ide missed a call.. but the phone hadnt rang at all (that could be EE though), very rarely when someone called me.. the EE G4 would ring as normal but say "dialer has stopped working" then cancel the call and EE G4 would sometimes crash as well.... and to top it off when I was in my EE store a few weeks a go.. the sales guy said.. EE UK are no longer supporting the G4.. as all their units come from another EU country and they do not have certain bands that the UK use..
However, my new G4 is one of the newer hardware Region: GBR v1.1 S/N: 511 builds.. and its running really great under MM v20d, LG seem to have (so far) sorted the battery issues and app crashes..
Just a Tip folks
I picked mine up from ARGOS on my Argos store card and got it on 12 months interest free in the Argos SALE at £340 so Ive sold my EE G4 to Grainger Games or wherever for £150..
So Im very pleased with it as its running alot better... Ill Never buy a branded device.

NightOrchid said:
I do love the G4 and I know most people probably think this is crazy so late in the game and with the G5 or V10 just around the corner but I ditched my EE branded G4, sold it.. and used what cash I had to put towards a new Unbranded one. Heres why:
I felt the EE bloat and bootloader were causing issues.. Where I live in Newcastle UK, I would get 1 or 2 bars 4G signal on my EE branded G4.. my Unbranded G4 a constant 3-5 bars, My Wifi, would often drop out on EE. now is solid, even on my old 54g extender. Sometimes I would recieve a txt to say Ide missed a call.. but the phone hadnt rang at all (that could be EE though), very rarely when someone called me.. the EE G4 would ring as normal but say "dialer has stopped working" then cancel the call and EE G4 would sometimes crash as well.... and to top it off when I was in my EE store a few weeks a go.. the sales guy said.. EE UK are no longer supporting the G4.. as all their units come from another EU country and they do not have certain bands that the UK use..
However, my new G4 is one of the newer hardware Region: GBR v1.1 S/N: 511 builds.. and its running really great under MM v20d, LG seem to have (so far) sorted the battery issues and app crashes..
Just a Tip folks
I picked mine up from ARGOS on my Argos store card and got it on 12 months interest free in the Argos SALE at £340 so Ive sold my EE G4 to Grainger Games or wherever for £150..
So Im very pleased with it as its running alot better... Ill Never buy a branded device.
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Just bought my red leather from Vodafone for £225 and unlocked for £2.99 on ebay. It's standard 815 eu model.

cupidstunt said:
Just bought my red leather from Vodafone for £225 and unlocked for £2.99 on ebay. It's standard 815 eu model.
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Nice.. that was actually a good move because VODA tend use British deivces and they update them on a regualr basis and are uptodate with Firmwares.. but for some reason.. EE are really bad. Ive been with them for a year now and had a few EE branded phones which Ive bought pre-owned from ebay, Grainger Games, CEX.. etc.. and for some reason.. theyve all had a few things in common.. terrible 3G / 4G reception. and awful Wifi issues.. even on my old Lumia 930.. and they take weeks to release an update.
Check the Ident sticker on the end of the box of your G4. (IMEI, S/N... etc). My phone actually says "GBR" Great Britian.. and I know this because the Radio / Cell / GPS reception is great, so Im not sure where EE got theirs from

NightOrchid said:
I do love the G4 and I know most people probably think this is crazy so late in the game and with the G5 or V10 just around the corner but I ditched my EE branded G4, sold it.. and used what cash I had to put towards a new Unbranded one. Heres why:
I felt the EE bloat and bootloader were causing issues.. Where I live in Newcastle UK, I would get 1 or 2 bars 4G signal on my EE branded G4.. my Unbranded G4 a constant 3-5 bars, My Wifi, would often drop out on EE. now is solid, even on my old 54g extender. Sometimes I would recieve a txt to say Ide missed a call.. but the phone hadnt rang at all (that could be EE though), very rarely when someone called me.. the EE G4 would ring as normal but say "dialer has stopped working" then cancel the call and EE G4 would sometimes crash as well.... and to top it off when I was in my EE store a few weeks a go.. the sales guy said.. EE UK are no longer supporting the G4.. as all their units come from another EU country and they do not have certain bands that the UK use..
However, my new G4 is one of the newer hardware Region: GBR v1.1 S/N: 511 builds.. and its running really great under MM v20d, LG seem to have (so far) sorted the battery issues and app crashes..
Just a Tip folks
I picked mine up from ARGOS on my Argos store card and got it on 12 months interest free in the Argos SALE at £340 so Ive sold my EE G4 to Grainger Games or wherever for £150..
So Im very pleased with it as its running alot better... Ill Never buy a branded device.
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This is good to know, I'm on EE and have just purchased a G4 from Amazon which comes today, I'm coming from the Dark Side (iPhone 6S Plus) back to Android.
My main concern was losing WiFi Calling but after reading your post I feel I won't have an issue.
It's also my first LG device, I can't wait to get it.
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maverick1103 said:
This is good to know, I'm on EE and have just purchased a G4 from Amazon which comes today, I'm coming from the Dark Side (iPhone 6S Plus) back to Android.
My main concern was losing WiFi Calling but after reading your post I feel I won't have an issue.
It's also my first LG device, I can't wait to get it.
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Flash an EE rom and you'll get EE Wifi Calling on any H815, the only problem is they're always many months behind and still don't have 6.0.
Hopefully someone will figure out a way to port the Wifi Calling settings into other roms.

srw985 said:
Flash an EE rom and you'll get EE Wifi Calling on any H815, the only problem is they're always many months behind and still don't have 6.0.
Hopefully someone will figure out a way to port the Wifi Calling settings into other roms.
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Yes that's what I was contemplating on doing, though I think I'll see what the signal is like first on stock rom for now.
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Hey guys. I got a H815, EE variant, and I'm so pissed off because still no 6.0 update, even the bootloader is non-unlockable. :/
Any news about the MM OTA update, or how to "convert" and EE to non-EE, or anyway to manually install official MM (or even custom)?
Thanks in advance.

tupacan said:
Hey guys. I got a H815, EE variant, and I'm so pissed off because still no 6.0 update, even the bootloader is non-unlockable. :/
Any news about the MM OTA update, or how to "convert" and EE to non-EE, or anyway to manually install official MM (or even custom)?
Thanks in advance.
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Are you sure that your bootloader is not-unlockable? Check This!

I really didn't know that people still bought carrier locked/contract phones anymore in the UK. I stopped doing that well over 10 years ago. Fancy that.

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Are you sure that your bootloader is not-unlockable? Check This!
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I just tried and it worked. Bootloader unlocked, thanks.
daglesj said:
I really didn't know that people still bought carrier locked/contract phones anymore in the UK. I stopped doing that well over 10 years ago. Fancy that.
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It's not carrier locked or branded. I'm not sure, but i guess it's just bought from EE and they delivered it with their software.
I bought it from a local private store, which only resell the phone.
Anyway, I have another question. Can I now flash an EU non-branded official firmware and get all the official updates? And, which custom rom do you recommend? I see the Genisys one is most popular..
Thanks in advance.

LG Bridge showing new update now for EE branded G4
download link:
Code:
http://pkg03.lime.gdms.lge.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW62O17552O4A1O48C04757/H81520a_00_0321.kdz&e=1460422983&h=bd3ca0110096f45a408cabbd263e73c2

Yup I can now confirm that Android 6 Marshmellow has been released OTA for UK EE.
Bout blooming time.

awes0me1 said:
Yup I can now confirm that Android 6 Marshmellow has been released OTA for UK EE.
Bout blooming time.
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are you using it? if so how it is, worth upgrading?
i used MM on International G4 and though battery was worse than on 5.1

Moto G5, Sapphire blue - £89 until 6th December in the UK

Hiya, just saw this deal - I'm getting one for me and one for my wife.
Will probably be network locked to O2, UK, but I'm guessing there's a network unlock hack on here somewhere (please post a link if know of one). Otherwise I see there are people selling unlock codes online (Edit - just saw an ebayer selling codes for £1.96!)
Frankly this phone strikes me as a crazy good deal

Just to let you know as you're in UK giffgaff sell this phone for £119 & is network unlocked so you can decide if it's worth the extra cost vs buying unlock code
The only extra cost is you have to also buy £10 topup with it - however I recommend buying £12 top up for 4gb data unlimited texts & 750mins calls
If you are both on giffgaff you get free giffgaff to giffgaff calls if you top up at least £10 every three months

Thanks for the tip. I used to use giffgaff but I'm based in Ireland these days so will get it unlocked to work on Vodafone over here (if I can't just root them and unlock myself there's a phone shop in town who will do it for €10). The £89 O2 deal includes £10 O2 credit - thanks to the new EU roaming rules I'll be able to use the credit over here though.
Really is a very good deal

Also just be aware the UK version of the G5 has never been updated so it's still on Jan security level sadly.

surrealjam said:
Also just be aware the UK version of the G5 has never been updated so it's still on Jan security level sadly.
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Doesn't make any difference if you don't use stock like me - I always use lineageos
And the security updates dont have any impact on features or performance - it just patches some security flaws and since some like bluetooth flaws have been around since android began and have only just been patched, if you have never been a victim of the flaw its very unlikely you ever will be and anyway most people only switch bluetooth on when they actually use it and switch it off after to save battery

Just read elsewhere on here that an update to Oreo is expected in the coming weeks! That would be a bit of a treat, though it's concerning that the UK versions have been left behind so far. Likely I'll jump on the custom firmware since the battery life with stock sounds wanting - if the lineage version is fairly stable I'll get some of that!

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Just read elsewhere on here that an update to Oreo is expected in the coming weeks! That would be a bit of a treat, though it's concerning that the UK versions have been left behind so far. Likely I'll jump on the custom firmware since the battery life with stock sounds wanting - if the lineage version is fairly stable I'll get some of that!
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Take what you read on websites about updates with a pinch of salt - its rarely true - yes Motorola have said they will provide oreo to this phone but as to when no one knows including these so called website. Although xda have confirmed that soak testing has begun in Brazil - If the timescale to what happened with lollipop on g4 lte when I soak tested its about 2months but thats for the area thats being soak tested (soak test is for selected users only) You then have all the other regions to roll out.
Lineageos 15 is stable and works fine - iv been using it all day and iv had no problems with it - theres a few minor things that need improving upon but it terms of all the main functionality everything works

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And the security updates dont have any impact on features or performance - it just patches some security flaws and since some like bluetooth flaws have been around since android began and have only just been patched, if you have never been a victim of the flaw its very unlikely you ever will be and anyway most people only switch bluetooth on when they actually use it and switch it off after to save battery
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The updates list stability improvements (as well as security patches) in the changelogs.

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The updates list stability improvements (as well as security patches) in the changelogs.
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They always say that yet never say what they are - so I expect the security patch to them equals more stable

Yay! My bargain phones arrived in the week. Got the two unlocked from O2 for £3! Going to have a play with the stock O2 firmware on mine for a while then will probably root and have a tinker. Seems like lineage 15 still has camera issues, which had been a nuisance on my Nexus 5 (running a PureNexus nougat build).
Already this very low spec bargain phone benchmarks at about the same level as my Nexus 5, but without the kangy ROM lags!
Odd that it uses a 32bit version of android, despite its 64bit processor, but I guess with only 2gb ram 64bit wouldn't add anything.
I'm expecting to miss wireless charging so I've got a qi receiver and a case on a slow boat from China.
I got a bit excited the other day so have also ordered a bunch of stuff including a magnetic power connector (if I can bear foregoing qi). On black Friday I ordered a sandisk 128gb microsd card for about £35! (Don't worry, I got it from a reputable seller)
Yay techy toys!