Audio quality with V4A and Arise? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

So it's not a secret that the S8 is not as good as let's say HTC 10 for audio, yesterday I tried my own earphones on a S8 and while the volume is loud enough, you feel it still need a small volume boost and certainly a better dynamic range and clarity.
So for people who tried on their Exynos S8 V4A or V4 Arise, what do you think of the sound quality?
Can you reproduce the Boomsound deep sound quality or not really?
I am talking small earphones like KZ and Xiaomi Pistons

vegetaleb said:
So it's not a secret that the S8 is not as good as let's say HTC 10 for audio, yesterday I tried my own earphones on a S8 and while the volume is loud enough, you feel it still need a small volume boost and certainly a better dynamic range and clarity.
So for people who tried on their Exynos S8 V4A or V4 Arise, what do you think of the sound quality?
Can you reproduce the Boomsound deep sound quality or not really?
I am talking small earphones like KZ and Xiaomi Pistons
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No idea about the HTC10 but I have a M8 and a S8, the M8 can drive my big sennheiser HD 215's easily to proper listing levels where as the S8 can not but but for the Momentum IEM's both are very evenly matched I am using PowerAmp+V4A on both and with a bit of equalizer magic it sounds awesome on both and the lack of punch is taken care off using the Preamp slider.
There is only one thing I noticed that paints the S8 in a bad light that is shuttering overwhelming bass in certain tracks but that can be taken care of with use of the "Limit" tab but it introduces a weird wavy effect thus I found it best to turn the bass a bit low. The end result is the S8 and the M8 with similar audio signatures but a little less bass on the S8.
Also for higher volume you can also use this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72245028&postcount=17
and I followed this guide for V4A:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/youtube-guide-how-to-install-t3598030

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How would you consider the S5's Audio Quality?

There are some blogs and reviews that I've read, including that from GSMArena that says both the S5 and M8 are almost superb in sound quality, the M8 stands out because of the dedicated Speakers and Audio Hardware and better volume levels. For me, I don't care much for the Speaker, but it's the phones music quality thru the headset that counts for me. I was happy with the S3 back then, but was disappointed when I tried The S4 (i9500) which has the same Wolfson Audio Chip that the S3 has. Till AndreiLux used the Wolfson Audio Control in his Perseus Kernel, which vastly improved the audio quality of the S4. I was happy with that.
Now, there is a Sound Boost Mod available here. If I were to use that, would you think that it can be on the same level of the M8, or even surpass it?
Hoping for anyone's response to this.
Many thanks.
Call sound quality is good for me tbh. It's very clear so far even when i'm at a loud setting such as bar/clubs. Actually, just yesterday at a post run party in an event I attended, I was able to hear the people I was talking to, despite being in a semi-concert environment and the phone being inside a zip lock plastic bag. Speaker and default ring volume are crap though.
Sound quality is and never will be as loud and clear as the M8. However the S5 does have a better speaker than a lot of other high end smartphones.
But one thing that I got annoyed with is the back vibrating when using the speaker!! due to the rubber on the back to keep it waterproof.
Root the S5 & install Viper4Android and you will be satisfied, I'm currently using the HTC Beats Audio IRS on my S5 and it sounds great.
Thanks to the developer of Viper4Android!!

LG G4 Sound Quality over the headphones

Its quite astonishing that no one is talking about LG G4's sound quality over the headphones while other flagship devices like HTC One (M9), Samsung Galaxy S6, Sony Xperia Z3+ etc. are being talked about a lot in terms of their audio quality over the internet. While GSM Arena is saying that the audio quality is a step back from the the previous G-series I'm not really sold. Actually I've stopped trusting GSM Arena after their mediocre reviews on Sony flagships over and over again which actually do sound better than samsung flagships in many aspects (GSM Arena tends to excessively flatter samsungs' audio quality. At least I think so.)
So, I was wondering If the audio quality of G4 over the headphones is really that bad as the GSM Arena guys are saying? I'm not concerned about the speakers at all. I'm on a Sony Xperia Z3 right now. But was considering buying a G4. As a music lover sound quality is something that is a must for me and Sony tends to satisfy me all the time unlike HTC which is all about volume output and produces exaggerating (sometimes crappy) bass and harsh trebles.
So, I want to get feedback from actual users who are using G4 as their prime music listening device. How does it sound over the headphones? Is it punchy or just dull? What's about the bass and the clarity? Any reply would be helpful. TIA.
The Audio Quality on the LG is by far the worst Ive ever heard lol
It sounds cheap.
I had iphone , Galaxy S4, Z3 and now the G4.
While iPhone 4s and Z3 had an awesome soundquality the S4 was something in the middle.
I heard mixed reports on G4's audio quality, some people liked it even more than M9 and others hated it.
But what about max volume with wired and BT? My M9 has exellent audio quality over BT but the sound volume could take an extra 30%, I hope G4 has a louder BT.
Is viper4android making the G4 sound quality better?
I have just moved from an xperia z3 to the lg g4 and the only reason being sound quality and a superior display. The sound quality is better than z3 in terms of loudness. Clarity wise Sony was better for me but a good sound mod can fix that im sure. Been 4 days since I bought the LG G4 and the sound is much much louder and I love it
U can enhance the sound with Viper4Audio but if the soundprocessor is crap there is no way around it.
Don't get me wrong, the G4 is easy to handle, has an awesome Display and I like it and will keep it.
And this thread is about soundquality not loudness.
For the Z3 are countless mods to make the sound louder.
Btw. for me the is no difference in loudness between Z3 and G4
Owner of an international G4 H815 and an international S6 Edge. Also an audiophile, and as tests I used my Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro, Shure SRH-750DJ and AudioTehnica M50x.
Overall the G4's sound was worse, the bass sounded like crap and the overall sound was as if it compressed my music to 128kb/sec. Poweramp, Google Play Music and LG Music Player used for tests.
To achieve my perfect sound with any of the headphones above, on the S6Edge it took less than 5 min in Viper4Android. On the G4 I'm still searching for it, haven't been able to fix that horrible sound of the low frequencies in the past week since I purchased the phone.
And don't even get me started on the Sony Z series, they're just as bad as a 10$ mp3 player
Agree, but not with the Z3. I like the clear and precise sound especially for electronic music. If it would not be made by Sony it could be good [emoji14]
If u find some good Viper settings for the dumb bass I think a lot oft ppl would appreciate it if u share.
Tiene mal sonido entonces? Ahora mismo tengo un meizu mx4 pro y su sonido es increíble en todos los sentidos, se nota que tiene un buen DAC.
Queria comprar un lg g4 pero me da miedo que el cambio se note mucho
Enviado desde mi MX4 Pro mediante Tapatalk
Damn!
I don't want to switch from my M9 to G4 if the sound is crap.
I use my phone as my primary audio source in my car and for sports.
Better take a Note 4/edge then
What do you think about BT with Apt-X is there a really difference between all devices ?
salehin4070 said:
Its quite astonishing that no one is talking about LG G4's sound quality over the headphones while other flagship devices like HTC One (M9), Samsung Galaxy S6, Sony Xperia Z3+ etc. are being talked about a lot in terms of their audio quality over the internet. While GSM Arena is saying that the audio quality is a step back from the the previous G-series I'm not really sold. Actually I've stopped trusting GSM Arena after their mediocre reviews on Sony flagships over and over again which actually do sound better than samsung flagships in many aspects (GSM Arena tends to excessively flatter samsungs' audio quality. At least I think so.)
So, I was wondering If the audio quality of G4 over the headphones is really that bad as the GSM Arena guys are saying? I'm not concerned about the speakers at all. I'm on a Sony Xperia Z3 right now. But was considering buying a G4. As a music lover sound quality is something that is a must for me and Sony tends to satisfy me all the time unlike HTC which is all about volume output and produces exaggerating (sometimes crappy) bass and harsh trebles.
So, I want to get feedback from actual users who are using G4 as their prime music listening device. How does it sound over the headphones? Is it punchy or just dull? What's about the bass and the clarity? Any reply would be helpful. TIA.
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Nice to see someone post and be interested in the sound quality. Me as an audiophile and sound engineer and always hunting for the best sound quality money can buy. Keep in mind the reason why customers say the lg sound is bad is for the reason that It doesn't have the spiked up eq like the Samsung and HTC devices being bass and treble out of the box with maxxed out volume capabilities getting the audio chip to got even over its limit just buy tweaking the software. LG on the other hand leaves the sound natural and flat, along with limiting the maximum volume to retain the clarity at full blast on all the frequencies. Sony has done a terrific job in their audio for mobile as well. I always stay away from Samsung and HTC on that aspect. LG sound is flat with good extensions of sub bass and highs, bass is tighty yet punchy, mids and voices aren't recessed nor foward but all just right, and highs are very well extended for that clarity but can be a bit sharp depending song. Instrument separation is by far very very good with sound stage fairly big. Compared g4 sound with s6 and m9 and sony. S6 and m9 made me want to puke. Sony made me want to keep the phone but the g4 was exactly the same but a bit better in my opinion plus the much more features. Hope this helps. Always keep in mind that the reason why consumers say g4 is wack sound is for two reason for it one doesn't have ear bleeding volume, and two that it isn't heavy bass be treble like the s6 and m9. Bluetooth sucks on the g4 in sq for some reason. I suggest you go to a carrier store and try all three phones with your own set of hp
I prefer the sound of HTC ONE M7 than my new LG G4. But I want to know if there is a difference between all devices in Bluetooth Apt-X ?
Otherwise I listen with Jetaudio and PowerAMP, and play with EQ.
Edit : I asked because my bluetooth headphone is broken so...
Viper dsp audio makes a world of difference
Sent from my LG-H812 using Tapatalk
deadgods said:
Viper dsp audio makes a world of difference
Sent from my LG-H812 using Tapatalk
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Even for BT?
Mediocre quality.
Sent from my A0001
vegetaleb said:
Even for BT?
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Yes even for bt
Sent from my LG-H812 using Tapatalk
I wish that AnandTech was still doing equipment based audio reviews like this.
(Anyone out there have access to Audio Precision gear? It'd be interesting to see what a G4 does...)
Can someone compare G4 with Note 4 audio quality with or without V4A?
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Can someone compare G4 with Note 4 audio quality with or without V4A?
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Volume is super low on the g4.
Sent from my A0001
wadamean said:
Nice to see someone post and be interested in the sound quality. Me as an audiophile and sound engineer and always hunting for the best sound quality money can buy. Keep in mind the reason why customers say the lg sound is bad is for the reason that It doesn't have the spiked up eq like the Samsung and HTC devices being bass and treble out of the box with maxxed out volume capabilities getting the audio chip to got even over its limit just buy tweaking the software. LG on the other hand leaves the sound natural and flat, along with limiting the maximum volume to retain the clarity at full blast on all the frequencies. Sony has done a terrific job in their audio for mobile as well. I always stay away from Samsung and HTC on that aspect. LG sound is flat with good extensions of sub bass and highs, bass is tighty yet punchy, mids and voices aren't recessed nor foward but all just right, and highs are very well extended for that clarity but can be a bit sharp depending song. Instrument separation is by far very very good with sound stage fairly big. Compared g4 sound with s6 and m9 and sony. S6 and m9 made me want to puke. Sony made me want to keep the phone but the g4 was exactly the same but a bit better in my opinion plus the much more features. Hope this helps. Always keep in mind that the reason why consumers say g4 is wack sound is for two reason for it one doesn't have ear bleeding volume, and two that it isn't heavy bass be treble like the s6 and m9. Bluetooth sucks on the g4 in sq for some reason. I suggest you go to a carrier store and try all three phones with your own set of hp
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Well, I have some hopes now. At least someone is saying that G4 sounds better.

Audiophiles out there!

Hello all audiophile Z5 owners!
How is the headphone output on this phone?
Is the quality good and loud?
Where can I find more specifications of the headphone jack and internal amp?
TordFuglstad said:
Hello all audiophile Z5 owners!
How is the headphone output on this phone?
Is the quality good and loud?
Where can I find more specifications of the headphone jack and internal amp?
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I wouldn't say I was a proper audio file but the audio on the z5 is good its really clear and louder than previous Z phones but once again sony have missed the loudness trick.
After reading GSM arenas review of the C5 ultra and the M5 saying without headphones the volume levels were 'excellently high' and with headphones they fell to below average on the C5 and fell on the M5 too but it was so high on the M5 to start off with that that it still remained a good volume. So this means that the M5 is louder than the Z5 range, I had high hopes for the Z line then they tested the Z5C and it just got a average.
According to GSM Arena.
Audio quality has its ups and downs
The Sony Xperia Z5 Compact did a very good job in the first part of our audio quality test, where it's connected to an active external amplifier. The scores it got were great top to bottom but it only matched them with an average volume level so we can't quite call it perfect.
Plugging in a pair of headphones harm the stereo crosstalk but it remained decent, but it also introduced a bit of frequency response deviation and brought the volume down a notch. Not too bad of a showing, but certainly not one worth bragging about.
I can't consider myself an audiophile but I will say the Z5 audio is an.improvement over the Z5 in both clarity and volume. It doesn't approach ZTE Axon level of quality and HTC M9 volume but it is adequate for the casual listener. I have dsee hx switched on which disables all other audio settings.
how is the volume in z5 compare to z3
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how is the volume in z5 compare to z3
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louder than Z3 but imo could be louder yet still
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louder than Z3 but imo could be louder yet still
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Exactly, well stated.
Coming from the Z1 it's a massive improvement on just about every level: Cleaner, wider and louder. It's very good, I'd say - I've certainly enjoyed listening to music on it very much!
"Loud enough"? How loud do you need it to be? Any louder than it is and I'm sure you'd hurt your hearing: it's plenty loud.
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Coming from the Z1 it's a massive improvement on just about every level: Cleaner, wider and louder. It's very good, I'd say - I've certainly enjoyed listening to music on it very much!
"Loud enough"? How loud do you need it to be? Any louder than it is and I'm sure you'd hurt your hearing: it's plenty loud.
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Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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Of that I have no doubt but do people put those phones to max volume? Do they need to? The ability and necessity are two separate things.
The Z5 is plenty loud for just about any headphone need, so far as I can make out. I'd certainly never put it to max.
Allright, so I purchased the graphite black Z5 yesterday. I have done some quick listening to the audio out of the jack through my ATH IM50 in ear monitors and haven't broken in the hardware yet. But I can definitely hear a difference from the Z3. All over the sound is very clear, it seems like a good separation and I can definitely get some really smooth low tones and crisp higher tones as well. I haven't been fooling around with the EQ yet. But feel like I don't need to.
About the loudness, I feel it is louder than the Z3 and very much loud enough to run a pair of good IEM's like the IM50's. I am listening now and have the volume two down from maximum. Probably won't be as loud with some big headphones. But any a person with a little self respect will have a headphone amp for that purpose. :good:
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Of that I have no doubt but do people put those phones to max volume? Do they need to? The ability and necessity are two separate things.
The Z5 is plenty loud for just about any headphone need, so far as I can make out. I'd certainly never put it to max.
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Fair enough for me its the bigger expensive headphones that make the difference with less expensive headphones like in ear or on ear it is never loud enough, in a busy street i still can hear noise around me.
I know some people who do have them on max volume definitely. I always had my note 4 on max volume and my HTC M7 and my 6S but only with lesser expensive headphones on headphones £200 and over no need to but even when are not at max they are still louder than Z5 at Max volume. Each to their own at the end of the day but sometimes its not always practical for me to carry around my larger headphones so I use in ear ones than I can just put in my pocket.
Hi,
I'm also trying to squeeze perfect sound from android. I use this portable DAC
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audioquest-dragonfly-v12-usb-dac/
via USB OTG cable. For playback I use "USB audio player pro". It can stream very high resolution audio files. At the moment I'm listening music on Audio technica ATH M50x headphones.
Sound with external DAC is a way better than directly from audio jack
RCJ89 said:
Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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That's unfortunate. One of the reasons I sent back my iPhone 6s, and opted to get a Z5 Compact is because I didn't think the sound of the 6s was much of a step up from my iPhone 4s. I was hoping the Z5 would be louder and fuller, especially for in-ear headphones at the gym. Might just be the headphones I've been using though. Maybe an upgrade in that department would resolve any potential issues I might have with the Z5.
I use sennheiser mm50 ip in ear phones with poweramp set to rock preset and to me the sound is nice crisp quality at loud enough volume levels
Sent from my Xperia z5 by Tapatalk
@TordFuglstad & @Timaustin2000 I've been enjoying your camera works (on 'that' thread) very much. Maybe you guys could post on the 'regular' photo thread at times
Don't get me wrong, guys. Before dropping > $100 on a pair of cans, maybe an 'audiophile' should get a cheap $50 DAC first. But it's not very convenient - we all know. That's why I'm looking at LDAC for the first time (wireless SQ is usually terrible compared to wired). LDAC could still be over-hyped, I'm willing to give it shot for the first time. But I can't find too many LDAC headphones to choose from. Any suggestions?
I read that there is no custom DAC in the Z5 (vs. Z3), but they added LDAC support. Unfortunately, I can't find almost any headphones that support it. I was really hoping they would have added it to the SBH bluetooth line by now.
How does the audio quality compare to HTC Butterfly s (which I have now) or I9505 Galaxy S4? What about HTC M9 or iPhone 6?
I take GSMArena's results with a grain of salt. I bought the Butterfly s partly based on their review saying the volume was loud and that there was no distortion. Unfortunately, while the audio quality is great at medium-high volumes the bass distorts above 12/15, and there is hissing with IEMs.
My questions are 1) do these hiss? and 2) do they distort with bass? (test track would be Daft Punk - Touch)
I'm a hardcore SONY audiophile, and while the Z5 is fantastic, the Walkman ZX2 is still by FAR my favorite mobile music player when coupled with the XBA-Z5 in-earphones ( made in Japan ) and/or Z7 headphones ( made in Japan) by Sony,
followed in close 2nd place by the newer less pricey ZX100 Walkman, which is a step up from the A series.
Lol even the A series is stomping on the Z5. No point to compare it to the zx2/1/100
Sent from my E6653

Someone can compare the sound-quality of the Axon 7 with the HTC M9?

Hello,
i'm having the HTC M9 and because of the great sound DAC (4490) i bought the Axon 7. It beats my HTC M9 in nearly every point but not in sound quality
If i disable on both phones every EQ and Sound Effect, just using direct output, the HTC M9 will win because its more clear and defined then the Axon 7. The sound of the Axon 7 is not bad but its imprecised/blurred.
So someone is having the HTC M9 too and can compare it with the Axon 7 too? Disable all Effects, EQ and set both to the same volume level and compare for example this music on both phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fyDHNssXnY (please better serach for this song on Tidal or somewhere where you can get it in better quality, idk what quality its on yt but its not that good like the flac quality of Tidal)
I wonder if my Axon 7 is broken or ZTE did a bad job in implementing this DAC to its Android or if they added very bad OP-AMPs behind the DAC.. idk i simply can not understand whats going wrong.. i didnt expect that it would have worse sound then the M9.. In all other points its better.
Headphone is Beyerdynamic T1 Gen2 & Custom Street
My son had my old HTC M9 when I first got my Axon 7.... I thought there was no comparison, the Axon 7 won hands-down. Fuller low end, crisper top end, louder and no distortion. The headphone volume in the A7 is lower, but setting up a Dolby Atmos profile specifically for my earbuds, I could make it sound much better than the M9, although the M9 was louder (but I don't ever turn up all the way).
Now, in saying all that....When I disabled the Dolby Atmos and HTC Boomsound (or whatever the M9 has), the M9 sounded better. The Dolby Atmos is everything to the sound of the Axon 7 without that, it sounds horrible (unless you are rooted and use another audio mod, like V4a).
My biggest gripe with the M9 (M7 & M8 too, I've had them all) was there was no system wide EQ, like Dolby Atmos. Trust me, I don't like Dolby Atmos in general.... It randomly resets sometimes and will switch to "movie" when I'm listening to music, but it does sound good.
tele_jas said:
My son had my old HTC M9 when I first got my Axon 7.... I thought there was no comparison, the Axon 7 won hands-down. Fuller low end, crisper top end, louder and no distortion. The headphone volume in the A7 is lower, but setting up a Dolby Atmos profile specifically for my earbuds, I could make it sound much better than the M9, although the M9 was louder (but I don't ever turn up all the way).
Now, in saying all that....When I disabled the Dolby Atmos and HTC Boomsound (or whatever the M9 has), the M9 sounded better. The Dolby Atmos is everything to the sound of the Axon 7 without that, it sounds horrible (unless you are rooted and use another audio mod, like V4a).
My biggest gripe with the M9 (M7 & M8 too, I've had them all) was there was no system wide EQ, like Dolby Atmos. Trust me, I don't like Dolby Atmos in general.... It randomly resets sometimes and will switch to "movie" when I'm listening to music, but it does sound good.
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Yea exactly this i found out too.. with Dolby Atmos i can make the Axon 7 more sound like the M9. But without all effects and EQ stuff the M9 is the better one in sound quality.
I had crazy volume issues on my M9 while hearing flac music. All the time if the displays went off there was this crazy volume issues.
I think i will stay with the Axon and use the Dolby Atmos which really sounds not bad if you set it the right way(sadly this Dolby Atmos disable itself every time if i plug in my headphones... and yea this random resets and profile selections are horrible ). I don't like EQ stuff but the Axon is in all other points the better choise. Maybe I will use my Fiio E18 (connected via USB) again. With it I have the best quality so far
But good to hear that im not the only who found out that the M9 has without EQ, BoomSound,.. the better sound Also the M9 can drive the Beyer T1 (600Ohm) headphone better then the Axon 7 (the EU version can too but only in super mode... i hope ZTE will fix the volume limitation of the EU version and make it loud like the US version)
Currently i use this Dolby settings on the Axon 7 (but im still testing arround ^^):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3952988&stc=1&d=1480458554
Lets see if there are other ppl who can confirm this too...
I have the HTC M9, Axon 7 and recently the V20. For headphone out, I always disable all enhancements etc. I used a selection of IEMs such as Sony EX1000, Westone UM30, JH Roxanne since these are all sensitive low impedance earphones.
I found the Axon 7 had worse audio than the M9. The M9 has elevated bass which was very noticeable but also was clearer than that of the Axon 7. What surprised me was when switching from standard to super in the headset HIFI settings on the Axon 7, the sound became worse, more muffled, less detailed, lower voume for the EX1000 and JH Roxannes. I later tested with a Sennheiser HD800 headphone that has 300 ohm impedance. This was my only headphone where the sound on Axon improved by switching to Super in the headset HIFI settings however iit was bbeing under powered by the Axon 7.
I also tested with UApp and poweramp to make sure the results were consistent across apps that could access the DAC.
Later I got a V20 and compared to the M9 and Axon 7 it is hands down much better. It's like a veil is lifted from the music. I can pickup details that were not audible or were muffled on the Axon 7. If you use an adaptor to fool the V20 toioi kick into high impedance mode then the Sennheiser HD800 will goto higher volumes than the M9 or Axon 7.
I am not sure what is going on with the Axon 7. Sure it is better than any other phone without a dedicated DAC but I expected better results from the AK4490 DAC.
Hmm after seeing this https://hifiduino.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/akm-verita-4490-dac/ im pretty sure that ZTE did badly implement the DAC into Android. This DAC has many many settings. For ex. they could enable filters which will make the sound more clear or add more bass etc. Maybe the US version sounds differnt then the EU version idk. I hoe ZTE will fix that in Android 7 and also add more options where we can change the DAC settings.
Maybe it's the DSD/DSP which is badly setup on the Axons AK4490/4461. Im testing arround with my Creative Soundblaster X7 and if i disable there the DSP (using direct mode) i get a very clear and good sound while playing flac files. I think there is something similar on the Axon 7 enabled. I think they want to make a better sound by using audioprocessing stuff but thats for me like all the other EQ stuff whichs destroys the natural/orignal sound ...i dont like it ...somehow the sound looses its clarity. It's very good recognizable if you listen to clasic/trailer music like the album "Tunes of Fantasy" from Florian Bur.

Audio quality

Hi experts,
I'm a long time Xiaomi user coming from Mi A1 thinking to buy this Mi 9T in US.
I'm not to happy with the A1 audio quality, especially over the headphones. I tried different brands, but not much luck. My GF has a note6pro, my family 5a..
Looking at the gsmarena site they are not impressed too with headphone test on this model, not sure it can be trusted though.
My main concern is the microphone and echo/noise canceling.
Can you guys give me a "real life review"?!
Check other thread, there many other (me included) confirm audio quality is suprisingly good, contrary to rumors. Maybe updates improved it?
I can say it is just as good as my amazing LG V20 with quad DAC! And the LG V series are the bechmark when it comes to android audio quality.
Only my problem is that volume is low, but AFAIK that is EU regulations, and should be easy to hack/fix, and would not apply anyway AFAIK for US version.
Just got my Mi 9T, and it is just STUNNING! A piece of art. I still catch myself staring at its beauty.
I would like to know about this too. And once again, there is NO EU regulation limiting volume. Manufacturers are meant to warn users when the volume is getting loud so they can confirm they want to proceed. If the phone companies can't read the rules, that's not the EU's fault. Enough with the fake news.
There's two modes of audio in the 9t "hi-fi" or regular.
I think that the option it's meant to switch from the audio chip modes, regular or performance (I think it's the best chip it has Qualcomm for audio, or at least they made it sound like that).
This performance mode uses more power, like 5 times more, and I am almost certain that gsmarena reviewed it without this setting on, that's why the poor results.
Look at this for more info of the chip.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/wcd9375
Interesting for the consuption I didn't know ! and I can confirm that the sound quality is very good.
For the volume mine is very loud, impossible to put at max but it depend of your earphones impedance and many others things. (you have to play good quality sample music like FLAC and a good player like "AIMP" or "Poweramp" that can be "bit perfect"
Yes, I did a blind test against my creative Sound Blaster E1 (the phone supports DACs over USB C as well) and it is indistinguishable from that nice and proper DAC, IN THE HI-FI MODE. The source was lossless stuff from Tidal and the earbuds used were my trusty HiFiMan RE400a earbuds. I can verify that one has to listen at like two clicks below the full volume for everything to come through (i.e. the volume is a bit low, but baseline audio performance is excellent)
soumen08 said:
Yes, I did a blind test against my creative Sound Blaster E1 (the phone supports DACs over USB C as well) and it is indistinguishable from that nice and proper DAC, IN THE HI-FI MODE. The source was lossless stuff from Tidal and the earbuds used were my trusty HiFiMan RE400a earbuds. I can verify that one has to listen at like two clicks below the full volume for everything to come through (i.e. the volume is a bit low, but baseline audio performance is excellent)
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That's nice to hear.
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razielmcr said:
That's nice to hear.
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I would be also interested in the microphone handling in the topic of Audit quality. On Mi A1 ppl always complained when I was using a headset as the noise canceling part did not work. Same for Speaker mode..
Also why "Hi-Fi audio" is not on by default as it claims to increase audio quality.
Regarding the phone calls I can tell that my factory set 9T is poor. I cannot hear and understand what people say when calling. (Never had this on any phone before) Weird sound and some echo. And nowhere any audio settings in phone.
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Regarding the phone calls I can tell that my factory set 9T is poor. I cannot hear and understand what people say when calling. (Never had this on any phone before) Weird sound and some echo. And nowhere any audio settings in phone.
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I don't have that problem. Phone calls are clear
Regarding audio quality over a headphone jack = it is worst audio quality I have ever tested from any smartphone be honest. I also know people who see it the same way. I went to Mi9T from Pocophone and never had this issue there - poco is still in my house, I gave it to my wife so I can really compare between the two. Tried both normal and hi-fi modes on Mi9T.
Audio over BT is fine on other hand - thats most important for me
I was testing audio quality on SONY WH-1000MX3
What could be the reason for this I dont know. The audio chip should be great. I have tried many versions of MIUI as well.
Tested right now with Beyerdynamic dt770 Pro 250 Ohm version. My source file is from deezer to have a better idea of an average quality of a song someone might listen to.
Hi-Fi is enabled and i can say that audio quality is pretty good. I wouldn't compare it to LG Quad Dac but the phone is powering 250 Ohm studio headphones very well.
People usually evaluate audio quality by the amount of bass. IMO its good enough.
@Nexus5-32GB I have the same impression. I came from a Zuk Z2 Pro and audio quality is poor. Bass is OK but mids and treble are too high. I'm using the same Senheiser MX-30G as always and the difference is noticiable even in Hi-Fi. My wife's Redmi 4A have better sound.
I am using poweramp music player to listen to music, and the audio quality is just superb! Previously I used google play music with mi sound enhancer and the audio quality is pretty mediocre compared to poweramp.
I tested hifi with AudioTechnica M50. It does make a difference and I feel it is a lot louder so much that I'm afraid of pushing volume to max. I like my hearing very much. You don't need portable amps with this phone for the most part. It's probably not audiophile approved or something like that but it sounds very full.
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@Nexus5-32GB I have the same impression. I came from a Zuk Z2 Pro and audio quality is poor. Bass is OK but mids and treble are too high. I'm using the same Senheiser MX-30G as always and the difference is noticiable even in Hi-Fi. My wife's Redmi 4A have better sound.
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What player are you using?
Using Google play the sound it's ****.
Using Tidal it's heaven, don't know why.
Exactly, if you use it right the sound is very good but if you listen mp3 with googlemusic, sure the best earphones can't do anything for you
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What player are you using?
Using Google play the sound it's ****.
Using Tidal it's heaven, don't know why.
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I don't think it's a player issue 'cause I always use the same player. I always compare the sound using Spotify. I use Spotify on all my family devices.
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I don't think it's a player issue 'cause I always use the same player. I always compare the sound using Spotify. I use Spotify on all my family devices.
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Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, I know, but in my case that happend, playing throug play music was horrible and understandable that people complain about it, but with Tidal it's beyond anything i've heard.
Other users have notified that they too notice when playing through play music.
actually is awesome
brombadeg said:
Hi experts,
I'm a long time Xiaomi user coming from Mi A1 thinking to buy this Mi 9T in US.
I'm not to happy with the A1 audio quality, especially over the headphones. I tried different brands, but not much luck. My GF has a note6pro, my family 5a..
Looking at the gsmarena site they are not impressed too with headphone test on this model, not sure it can be trusted though.
My main concern is the microphone and echo/noise canceling.
Can you guys give me a "real life review"?!
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Coming from a zte axon 7 I was really doubtful about the sound quality, but I'm impressed about it, it has a hifi logo on the box and sounds really good, with a couple of good headphones I can't listen no difference with the zte axon 7, also had a poco f1 and it sounds a thousand times better than the poco

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