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My GT-I9505 has always had a very poor battery life. However, thanks to Greenify and Amplify I managed to reduce the battery drain during deep sleep almost entirely. However, I noticed huge battery drain when the screen is on, it takes half of the battery and just for less than 2 hours of screen on! The brightness is set to minimum, I use Slimkat's Dark UI which it should help the AMOLED screen, but these battery drops keeps staying (even with other ROMs i have the same battery drain)... A friend of mine has got a Galaxy S5 and its battery is absolutely brilliant, screen takes only 20% in the battery stats and he uses it far more than me... Is this a normal attitude on the S4?
mIRChele said:
My GT-I9505 has always had a very poor battery life. However, thanks to Greenify and Amplify I managed to reduce the battery drain during deep sleep almost entirely. However, I noticed huge battery drain when the screen is on, it takes half of the battery and just for less than 2 hours of screen on! The brightness is set to minimum, I use Slimkat's Dark UI which it should help the AMOLED screen, but these battery drops keeps staying (even with other ROMs i have the same battery drain)... A friend of mine has got a Galaxy S5 and its battery is absolutely brilliant, screen takes only 20% in the battery stats and he uses it far more than me... Is this a normal attitude on the S4?
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The S5 does have a bigger battery (bigger in terms of mAh). It also depends on the age of the battery. If the phone is new (therefor has a new battery) it obviously lasts longer. It also depends on what you are doing when the screen is on. Do you play games or what?
I usually read on my S4 and it does not drain so much as to go from 100% to 50% in 2 hours. But I'm running lollipop. I've never had any other rom beside original firmware and lollipop gpe.
Check your settings and governor.
mIRChele said:
My GT-I9505 has always had a very poor battery life. However, thanks to Greenify and Amplify I managed to reduce the battery drain during deep sleep almost entirely. However, I noticed huge battery drain when the screen is on, it takes half of the battery and just for less than 2 hours of screen on! The brightness is set to minimum, I use Slimkat's Dark UI which it should help the AMOLED screen, but these battery drops keeps staying (even with other ROMs i have the same battery drain)... A friend of mine has got a Galaxy S5 and its battery is absolutely brilliant, screen takes only 20% in the battery stats and he uses it far more than me... Is this a normal attitude on the S4?
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Hi mate
Use an app like BBS let it run when the screen is on to really see what is keeping the phone awake
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
hey, i want to know if these 3 features drain battery or aid in better battery life
ambient display - i know it's an amoled so only few pixels are turned on, but what i want to know is do people face a much better battery life with this feature turned on and by that i mean like a significant difference, same with adaptive brightness as compared to toggling it yourself. And lastly black color on amoled screens, how much difference in battery life can you get approximately by using a black ui throughout, like 10% or 25% ?
the battery improvements are not noticeable. even in a full black background, but that's just my experience.
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hey, i want to know if these 3 features drain battery or aid in better battery life
ambient display - i know it's an amoled so only few pixels are turned on, but what i want to know is do people face a much better battery life with this feature turned on and by that i mean like a significant difference, same with adaptive brightness as compared to toggling it yourself. And lastly black color on amoled screens, how much difference in battery life can you get approximately by using a black ui throughout, like 10% or 25% ?
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Honestly, the gains in battery life from using a black background would be pretty small in my opinion. I don't see how using ambient display would save any battery at all, as opposed to what? The biggest gain would be adjusting brightness manually instead of using adaptive brightness, adaptive brightness can be pretty heavy on the sensors.
Heisenberg said:
Honestly, the gains in battery life from using a black background would be pretty small in my opinion. I don't see how using ambient display would save any battery at all, as opposed to what? The biggest gain would be adjusting brightness manually instead of using adaptive brightness, adaptive brightness can be pretty heavy on the sensors.
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I'm trying to compare ambient display to constantly unlocking the phone to check for the time or notifications
rrohanjs said:
I'm trying to compare ambient display to constantly unlocking the phone to check for the time or notifications
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In that case I believe using ambient display would be the best option.
How much battery you get when you debloat S8?
Manage open apps
Start up apps
Black Theme
Blackish Wallpaper
etc etc
basic advance user battery settings
I want to buy S8 but 2 things hold me back.
Drop it (with a good case) and brake the screen.
Battery life after debloating with all the advance user battery tweaks.
I usually charge my phone when it gets to about 40% but the few times I did get down to 15% I was around 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT; that's with Bluetooth, GPS, quad HD, AOD on at all times. Sync, wifi is off.
This phone is fragile. I have a very protective case on it but no case will protect the phone if you're not cognizant with your phone. Don't drop it.
napster855 said:
How much battery you get when you debloat S8?
Manage open apps
Start up apps
Black Theme
Blackish Wallpaper
etc etc
basic advance user battery settings
I want to buy S8 but 2 things hold me back.
Drop it (with a good case) and brake the screen.
Battery life after debloating with all the advance user battery tweaks.
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Can we debloat without root ?
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I charge my s8 when I gets to 20%, and I didn't use it when charging. usually my phone lasts more than 7 hours with some functions on. I think it works fine with me
well that's terrible battery life.... :/
napster855 said:
well that's terrible battery life.... :/
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No it's not. My S8 keeps up with my 3t. My note 4 had terrible battery life with 3 hours SoT. If you need more, you need another category of phones. All flagships get you between 5 and 8 hours of screen time. How long this is in total useage depends on you. I get two solid days out of my s8.
Much better after debloats.
In Idle (aod off): 3hrs/1%
Idle Aod on: 45min/1%
Facebook/web browseing: about 7min/1%
Screen on but not heavy load: 13min/1%
Easy to pass 8hrs or 9hrs (may be 10) Sot on daily use, this phone battery is really incredible
Ps: I used dual sim so phone radio drain battery little more than normal
thahim said:
Can we debloat without root ?
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Yes. Package Disabler Pro.
dkido said:
Much better after debloats.
In Idle (aod off): 3hrs/1%
Idle Aod on: 45min/1%
Facebook/web browseing: about 7min/1%
Screen on but not heavy load: 13min/1%
Easy to pass 8hrs or 9hrs (may be 10) Sot on daily use, this phone battery is really incredible
Ps: I used dual sim so phone radio drain battery little more than normal
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Im sorry but 9-10 hours SOT is impossible unless you have samsung s8+ version. With regular this is impossible. 10% per hour with wifi on is almost impossible. How the hell did u managed that - i could get 7 hours maybe 8 tops with movie playback mostly with no internet connection and minimum brightness. and i dont have drains i already disabled thoes bloats
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Im sorry but 9-10 hours SOT is impossible unless you have samsung s8+ version. With regular this is impossible. 10% per hour with wifi on is almost impossible. How the hell did u managed that - i could get 7 hours maybe 8 tops with movie playback mostly with no internet connection and minimum brightness. and i dont have drains i already disabled thoes bloats
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The true is I am on S8 version. I had the screen shot of 8hrs and 30min SOT and still 20% left. But because tried so much rom, my phone get soft brick, so I had to go back to stock and lost all the data. So you can easily imaging by take a look at the screen shot below
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The true is I am on S8 version. I had the screen shot of 8hrs and 30min SOT and still 20% left. But because tried so much rom, my phone get soft brick, so I had to go back to stock and lost all the data. So you can easily imaging by take a look at the screen shot below
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Still i just tested video movie. Wifi, bluettooth off - only cell reception 2 bars .
Brightness set on 20-25% , powersaving middle ON- it took 7-8 minutes for 1 % of battery. This means ONLY under sthoes conditions, screen on time would give 10-11 hours - meaning turn wifi on, brightness on little higher level u get 8 hours then. BUT if you start surfing the web and mixed use, u get 5-6 hours tops!!!!
If you looked under batterylife of thoes screenshots who had 8 hours or so - they didnt use phone much in browsing or video playback - they prolly just had screen on too test and brag about batterylife.!!! Unless they are lying about having regular s8 instead of s8+ wich does have little longer battery life then s8 , despite bigger screen
I debloated most stuff with Package DIsabler.
I get 5 hours SOT... Just as I did prior to debloating.
All things on, nothing important turned off (such as location)
Dreadish said:
Still i just tested video movie. Wifi, bluettooth off - only cell reception 2 bars .
Brightness set on 20-25% , powersaving middle ON- it took 7-8 minutes for 1 % of battery. This means ONLY under sthoes conditions, screen on time would give 10-11 hours - meaning turn wifi on, brightness on little higher level u get 8 hours then. BUT if you start surfing the web and mixed use, u get 5-6 hours tops!!!!
If you looked under batterylife of thoes screenshots who had 8 hours or so - they didnt use phone much in browsing or video playback - they prolly just had screen on too test and brag about batterylife.!!! Unless they are lying about having regular s8 instead of s8+ wich does have little longer battery life then s8 , despite bigger screen
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All things I did is browsing mate, facebook. Plus 15mins of videos calling by Line everyday(and Line eat battery so badly ^^). So it is true, daily uses, wifi is always on, brightness is auto. I love AOD feature, this is why I tried so many Roms/kernel to make it longer
thenessus said:
I debloated most stuff with Package DIsabler.
I get 5 hours SOT... Just as I did prior to debloating.
All things on, nothing important turned off (such as location)
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Can I see your debloat list, may be I can suggest more. But normally, by this way I dont think there is much changes effected
dkido said:
Can I see your debloat list, may be I can suggest more. But normally, by this way I dont think there is much changes effected
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Thank you for posting XML- ill try it out in bk disable pro. How is your phone working with all of this disabled? any hickups? Did you checked all thoes disabled apps that are ok to disable, so it wont hurt system too maintain device?
Also after u disabled this, how much system ram u have available in background AFTER u close all aplications in multitab.
U said 5 hours SOT - i do get more then that when not using wifi much and more of video playback - i did notest also that if you disable a lotmof bloatware, dosent improved battery life much.
But Dkido guy above, i guess you did managed too get this cause of you using DIFFERENT ROM. maybe this is the case here?!
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Thank you for posting XML- ill try it out in bk disable pro. How is your phone working with all of this disabled? any hickups? Did you checked all thoes disabled apps that are ok to disable, so it wont hurt system too maintain device?
Also after u disabled this, how much system ram u have available in background AFTER u close all aplications in multitab.
U said 5 hours SOT - i do get more then that when not using wifi much and more of video playback - i did notest also that if you disable a lotmof bloatware, dosent improved battery life much.
But Dkido guy above, i guess you did managed too get this cause of you using DIFFERENT ROM. maybe this is the case here?!
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I am now on stock rom mate. I got best result on stock, rooted
dkido said:
I am now on stock rom mate. I got best result on stock, rooted
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Rooted? what did you did that u got less drain then me for example, when browsing net and so on?
dkido said:
Much better after debloats.
In Idle (aod off): 3hrs/1%
Idle Aod on: 45min/1%
Facebook/web browseing: about 7min/1%
Screen on but not heavy load: 13min/1%
Easy to pass 8hrs or 9hrs (may be 10) Sot on daily use, this phone battery is really incredible
Ps: I used dual sim so phone radio drain battery little more than normal
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can you give me a list of all your disabled apps
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Yah, it will a little more time to consider all. Maybe in next morning I will write more. But as fast review I findout a little bit. For example you want to disable Samsung location, you should disable 4 package:
+ app/slocation
+ priv-app/radiolocationservice
+ priv-app/radiolocationmanager
+ priv-app/samsunglocationsdk (sorry if i dont remember exactly the name)
So I got my GS8 yesterday and this is the battery life I get with:
AOD off
No battery saving profile
Wifi on all the time
4G network but no data
Automatic brightness
No gaming, about an hour of video playback
Since I can't share outside links I'll just write the info here: (From 100% to 3%)
Last charged: 10h ago
Screen on time: 4 hours and 30 minutes (812mAh)
Android System: CPU total: 3 hours and 11 minutes (312mAh)
This is not even close to what I expected, do you think this is normal?
Normal. It's happened with both my S8 and my G6. Your battery life will get better in 3-5 days. Android is setting stuff up and optimizing battery life behind the scenes.
You bought it yesterday. Give it time to settle.
Also, turn off automatic Samsung cloud backup, it's on by default.
HanMan5000 said:
Normal. It's happened with both my S8 and my G6. Your battery life will get better in 3-5 days. Android is setting stuff up and optimizing battery life behind the scenes.
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How much better are we talking about? Like what would be my screen-on time on average?
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How much better are we talking about? Like what would be my screen-on time on average?
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I am 45% with 4 hours SOT. But I have days like yours with 4 hours SOT at end of day... It depends on how you use it.
Also depends if you debloat it or not (no root required)
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This is not even close to what I expected, do you think this is normal?
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What did you expect from a 3000mah battery? It all depends how you use the phone, i can empty the battery in an hour if I want.
4.5h is more than respectable, if you want more lower the brightness and use a black theme.
peachpuff said:
What did you expect from a 3000mah battery? It all depends how you use the phone, i can empty the battery in an hour if I want.
4.5h is more than respectable, if you want more lower the brightness and use a black theme.
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I expected the sot other users (like people from this forum) get. This battery life I got is bkarely better than that of my 3-year-old Xperia Z1!
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Another question guys. Is a 6% drain over 7 hours of being idle normal? Wifi on and AOD off.
InVaderrr said:
I expected the sot other users (like people from this forum) get. This battery life I got is bkarely better than that of my 3-year-old Xperia Z1!
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Another question guys. Is a 6% drain over 7 hours of being idle normal? Wifi on and AOD off.
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It pretty much. Also depend on how many apps you installed. If you dont want it run much, add it to smart manager sleep list. My idle about 3hrs/1% man. This is my battery current round and apps list. About 10% wasted battery because I did clear davikcache a few times
This should be normal. with AOD on, my phone takes about 2% per hour, but when browsing webpages, every 1.5 hours costs about 10% of power, watching videos should take more. also, the 1080p and 2k resolution have notable differences. so it seems that the white-background screen cuts down most of battery life, i think.
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This should be normal. with AOD on, my phone takes about 2% per hour, but when browsing webpages, every 1.5 hours costs about 10% of power, watching videos should take more. also, the 1080p and 2k resolution have notable differences. so it seems that the white-background screen cuts down most of battery life, i think.
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For an hour of browsing, mine decreases by 15-20 percent! (On wifi and auto brightness)
InVaderrr said:
For an hour of browsing, mine decreases by 15-20 percent! (On wifi and auto brightness)
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hmm, i turned my phone as power-saving as possible - brightness is less than half of the bar, suspended all background apps, and FHD resolution. also, after some days of usage, the system should be able to auto balance the power consumption by sleeping some unused apps and some Samsung's system services maybe. so i don't think this is an issue.
InVaderrr said:
I expected the sot other users (like people from this forum) get. This battery life I got is bkarely better than that of my 3-year-old Xperia Z1!
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Dont believe every sot someone posts here, i've seen a few 8 or 9 hour sot's but i'll bet the brightness was as dim as can be and they used a black theme. Or they were probably reading a book on the phone which uses no cpu at all or using the battery saving feature.
Your z1 also had a 3000mah battery, yet it had a smaller/dimmer screen, lower resolution, less ram, much slower cpu/gpu. How can you be complaining?
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Dont believe every sot someone posts here, i've seen a few 8 or 9 hour sot's but i'll bet the brightness was as dim as can be and they used a black theme. Or they were probably reading a book on the phone which uses no cpu at all or using the battery saving feature.
Your z1 also had a 3000mah battery, yet it had a smaller/dimmer screen, lower resolution, less ram, much slower cpu/gpu. How can you be complaining?
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yeah, you're right, the AMOLED screen with high brightness and white color is the real battery killer. also BTW, does the 'sot' mean 'screen-on time'? sorry for my bad English...
Yup screen on time
4.5h is more than enough ! I am coming from a S6E+ it used to give me 2h SOT MAX ! Hated my life with it.
Do you plat Pokemon Go? I find a lot of people I see complaining about battery do, that game is very poorly optimized for battery consumption.
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Do you plat Pokemon Go? I find a lot of people I see complaining about battery do, that game is very poorly optimized for battery consumption.
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Well no, as I said no games at all.
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And thanks everybody for posting your opinion. It really helped me!
It's more normal than not.
Hey guys, my s10 plus battery wasnt that great out the box I was averaging 4:30 sot that's with alot of spotify 1 hour of YouTube snapchat all day and all the social apps, I recently changed it to wqhd and not only my screen looks better my battery life is much better I'm now getting 5:30-6 hours of sot it seems like Samsung optimised the display for the battery where on my s9 plus wqhd was draining more battery but it seems to improve battery on s10, just seeing if anyone's had the same experience
Hmmm.. Let me try that. I've only used FHD on my S10 since I got it.
Ryle333 said:
Hmmm.. Let me try that. I've only used FHD on my S10 since I got it.
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Plus I realised this is a expensive phone with a beautiful display and dont feel like you should be using it at fhd+
What I know is that you have to be patient. The internal AI will adopt to your usage and then improve your battery life. It will take 2 or 3 weeks.
motorkar1234 said:
What I know is that you have to be patient. The internal AI will adopt to your usage and then improve your battery life. It will take 2 or 3 weeks.
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2 or 3 weeks? where did you get this nonsense info? my S10+ (Exynos) had terrible for first 4 days when there was pattern usage learning going on..after that its all perfect...dont tell me that $1000 needs to be used 2 or 3 weeks to get to normal conditions
pepo187 said:
2 or 3 weeks? where did you get this nonsense info? my S10+ (Exynos) had terrible for first 4 days when there was pattern usage learning going on..after that its all perfect...dont tell me that $1000 needs to be used 2 or 3 weeks to get to normal conditions
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I have been told this by my friend who works in Samsung Store. I have the phone (S10 Exynos) for 11 days now and it is still not good as my S7 Edge...I have 79% now without much of usage. I took it from the charger at 7:40 or so.
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Hey guys, my s10 plus battery wasnt that great out the box I was averaging 4:30 sot that's with alot of spotify 1 hour of YouTube snapchat all day and all the social apps, I recently changed it to wqhd and not only my screen looks better my battery life is much better I'm now getting 5:30-6 hours of sot it seems like Samsung optimised the display for the battery where on my s9 plus wqhd was draining more battery but it seems to improve battery on s10, just seeing if anyone's had the same experience
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Nope, that was just coincidence. Changing to WQHD+ will not improve battery life. It will reduce battery life by a very tiny amount. You must have had something else happen at the same time.
This is why comparing battry life with others is pointless, because there are just too many variables. As you have found, you can't even compare battery life with yourself without getting onconsistent results.
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Nope, that was just coincidence. Changing to WQHD+ will not improve battery life. It will reduce battery life by a very tiny amount. You must have had something else happen at the same time.
This is why comparing battry life with others is pointless, because there are just too many variables. As you have found, you can't even compare battery life with yourself without getting onconsistent results.
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I changed it back to fhd+ for a day and my battery did seem worse, wqhd gives me much better battery life
No reason it should take weeks to settle in. My first full day on the s10+ was 5.5 hours screen on time and still had 49% left after 16 hours. Currently on 40 hours off charger 7.2hrs sot and 17% left. This battery really is amazing but will always vary between users. Can't see how wqhd could do anything but hurt battery life but I'll run it tomorrow just to see what happens.
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No reason it should take weeks to settle in. My first full day on the s10+ was 5.5 hours screen on time and still had 49% left after 16 hours. Currently on 40 hours off charger 7.2hrs sot and 17% left. This battery really is amazing but will always vary between users. Can't see how wqhd could do anything but hurt battery life but I'll run it tomorrow just to see what happens.
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Thats insane. 5.5hours sot with almost 50% battery left? Surely you have turned off LOTS of features / adjusted brightness and various settings?
For me to achieve that i would need to use the phone at almost its lowest brightness and disable background activity, turn off auto sync, bluetooth, and pretty much anything else thats a battery drain!
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Thats insane. 5.5hours sot with almost 50% battery left? Surely you have turned off LOTS of features / adjusted brightness and various settings?
For me to achieve that i would need to use the phone at almost its lowest brightness and disable background activity, turn off auto sync, bluetooth, and pretty much anything else thats a battery drain!
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I don't think I have that much disabled. Brightness is on auto and is often pretty bright, power saver is on medium so background data is disabled along with auto sync because I don't need push notifications. I have bixby routines turn on auto sync when charging at night to sync anything that needs it. I use Bluetooth in the car and for headphones at the gym. Probably 6-7 Bluetooth hours on that screenshot. Not much WiFi since I'm never home. Location on. Don't use bixby itself because, well, who does? It's pretty effortless really. Especially compared to my note 8 where it's nearly dead at 5 hours sot.
I'm upped the resolution on my S10 plus from the beginning and getting anywhere from 8-9 hours sot. Way better than the iPhone 10s Max I had! A lot faster too!
With a week so far of using the S10 I've gotten equal battery life with FHD and QHD. About 4.5hrs SOT and 15-19 hours up time.
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Evocm7 said:
I don't think I have that much disabled. Brightness is on auto and is often pretty bright, power saver is on medium so background data is disabled along with auto sync because I don't need push notifications. I have bixby routines turn on auto sync when charging at night to sync anything that needs it. I use Bluetooth in the car and for headphones at the gym. Probably 6-7 Bluetooth hours on that screenshot. Not much WiFi since I'm never home. Location on. Don't use bixby itself because, well, who does? It's pretty effortless really. Especially compared to my note 8 where it's nearly dead at 5 hours sot.
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Ah you have battery saver mode on. It works magic to extend your battery life. It gave me good life on my S9+ when I had it. But my logic is why did I have to have battery saver on to match the battery life that I got on my 1+6 and Pixel 2 XL?
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daniel4653 said:
With a week so far of using the S10 I've gotten equal battery life with FHD and QHD. About 4.5hrs SOT and 15-19 hours up time.
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Ah you have battery saver mode on. It works magic to extend your battery life. It gave me good life on my S9+ when I had it. But my logic is why did I have to have battery saver on to match the battery life that I got on my 1+6 and Pixel 2 XL?
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Yeah. I've always used battery saver on every phone I've had. I'm kind of a battery life junky and when battery drains fast or when idling it bothers me. Some reason I got better life in my note 8 without saver on though. Helps on my s10 though and easily outlasts my wife's pixel 2 XL. It really all just depends on the user though. 4.5 sot is still a respectable time in my opinion especially for heavier users and about what I got on my note 8 and had no complaints. Difference now though is that I can use the s10 HEAVILY in one day and it won't die whereas my note 8 would have been dead hours before and would need a boost late in the day.