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I've unlocked and am running Ken's Alien ROM and so far I really like this. Im an international user on orange uk, so I use faux123's kernel for Oc and ram fix. But there is one caveat. I have really rubbish battery life. I did all the stuff (charge to 100% from 0% wipe stats, calibrate). The fact is, I left it on, for ten hours. The display was on for about 2. No usage. When I returned the battery was 30%, with phone idle consuming 30%. Newer radio needed? What can I do? My baseband is N_01.95.00R .
I've heard good things about the newest AT&T radio for battery. How can I flash this to an international ATRIX?
Help appreciated
Edit : phone idle consumed 40% :O
I have the exact same issue. Unfortunately, all that I can say is that changing neither kernel, radio or rom did fix this issue. I had some improvements when I followed this topic and flashed back my stock kernel (with no OC), but still very far from what I would consider a decent battery lifetime (10h with 3g + email and twitter sync and screen off)
Some users have tried and it worked well from them. I'm on the team that didn't work ): But you could give it a shot
Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
OP stated he tried calibration without success... I too am having subpar battery performance - interested to see what others have done to achieve better battery performance besides the previously mentioned methods.
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Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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I've done all that stuff, but it doesn't help IMHO. (at least it didn't do anything for me)
Only 2 real fixes that have worked for me are these:
1. Freeze unnecessarily apps with Titanium Backup (use "System panel" from the Market to find out what keeps constantly running/popping up in the background that you don't need)
AND
2. Turn off Automatic Sync, and get in the habit of doing that stuff manually all at once.
@2. I use to sync in the worst signal areas, and that drained the **** out of my battery. Sync/get your updates manually in strong signal areas whenever possible...
New radio from the fruitcakes thread and the latest faux123 kernel seemed to kill that bug.
I sold my atrix to my less then nerdy friend and I just fixed that bug for him yesterday. Same deal tho...
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I noticed from X2 battery (I think) every minute or two the phone constantly checks for either cell or data signal. I can let my iphone 4 sit on the counter all day and it might use 1-2% but my atrix drops 5% in an hour without touching it. No calibration or battery fix will help. Even CM7 uses it fairly quickly. Im running Alien 4 with max battery saver and gps and auto sync disabled...it should last for a full day with heavy usage.
Alien 4 w/theme, faux123 kernel, everything at stock settings for this rom, nothing frozen, and I am sitting at 1 day and 13 hours with 28% left, mostly idle, but an hour long call and bit of game playing.
If you are getting something on the order of just a few hours then your phone or battery must be bad. I am doing nothing to extend the battery life other then using the default settings.
The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
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The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
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Most iphone users need to charge at LEAST once a day. A lot of them charge more than once. I can sometimes get 2 days usage from my Atrix, with heavy texting, some calls, and some games - which is pretty damn good.
Maybe your battery is the issue. not all Atrix are created equal and not all batteries function the same
When you go into settings>running apps, does your free and used ram add up to over 800? Mine used to and now it doesn't. It adds up to like 750....I always thought it would add up to mid to upper 800's. It also could be the battery but I was pointing out that I have left my wife's Iphone 4 and my atrix on the counter all day (neither one got used) and my atrix was down in the 70% range and her phone was at 96%. I'm just thinking something is running or consuming the battery. I've used fastboot to do all wipes and still seem to be having an issue.... I also flash ROMs every few days so maybe the battery calibration doesn't have time to really calibrate. I'll pick a combo I like and keeep it for a few days and see if I notice a better battery life.
How long has it been since you've flashed a ROM? It usually takes a few days for it to settle back in and provide decent battery life (at least from my experience). My phone right now has been on for a little over 7 hours and is at about 55% with Display using up 60% of the battery (3hrs on). This is with the Alien v4 and Faux's latest kernel. The first few days after flashing a ROM my phone would usually only last about 7 hours.
i get 2-3 days on stand by. and about 6-8 hours of straight use. 3-5 if i'm using mobile broadband.
1: keep gps and data off (background data is almost irrelevant.)
2: use green power
3: use a task manager to close applications that you are not using. (be sure you can add "ignore" exceptions otherwise get a different manager. anyone who says not to use a task manager is a ****ing punk hipster ***** fag who's irreparable damage to the geeks good name will not go unpunished)
4: do the "wipe battery stats" bit after every flash (100% charge, wipe stats, full discharge)
5: is to install a custom kernel and use SetCPU to underclock to 312 while the screen is off..
most importantly: use your head. if you stream 1080p using mobile broadband for 2 hours your battery is dead.
I flash ROMs every few days but I call BS on the whole "Battery Calibration" thing. If my battery is showing 4200mv...it's full. It will die faster the more processes the phone does so my point it....whether I flash a rom every day it shouldn't matter, if the phone (After I set up and install whetever apps) gets unplugged, something drains the battery. Maybe the infra red sensor is always on, or a process is always starting and ending, who knows but the battery cannot be calibrated, the phone might need to be calibrated to read the correct voltage but batteries don't hold memory unlike the old NiCD rechargables from years ago.
When you flash a rom the battery stats get messed up. Based on what I know the way the battery drains depends on previous battery usage data hence the reason why it last longer after a few days of use after a rom is flashed. It needs to build up new data to correctly report battery use. Maybe I'm wrong but my experience supports this.
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I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
After you charge your phone and take it off the charger, reboot it.
It seems that a process kills the phones battery after you take it off the charger. You have to reboot after taking it off. It works wonders. Currently on 16 hours of use @ 45% battery on alien rom with stock kernel.
Cheers.
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I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I have frozen:
All of the authenticators
Weather
Tasks,
Home,(I use launcher pro)
Music (I use Poweramp)
Toggle Widgets,
News,
GingerBlur,
Gallery, (I use QuicPic)
[Q] Battery life terrible, despite trying all the supposed "fixes", hardware problem?
I got my N4 a bit less than a month ago by this point. I've rooted and tried most ROMS from stock to CM10.1 to PA, etc. However, my battery life is consistently not so good. Coming from a One XL on CM10, I was used to bad battery life, but I expected the N4 to be better.
I don't have any screenshots, but here are my averages:
Time on Battery: 10-14 hours
Screen on: ~1.5 hours (usually, never have gotten over 2.5)
Android OS kept awake: ~1-1.5 hours
I know I'm among the group of people with the problem of Android OS keeping the phone awake, and I see all of these kernels attempting to fix the msm_hsic_wakelock issue, but I'm still having that as well.
I'm always on auto-brightness, Google sync on (calendar, chrome, gmail), Google Now enabled, etc. I'm also always on data, usually 2 bars + (the signal never gets worse than yellow on the battery graph.
Lastly, on wifi, all of these issues are gone. My idle battery drain is also phenomanol on wifi compared to data or even no wifi + no data. In about 8 hours I drained ~8% even with the data off.
Any ideas? I'm getting really frustrated. I see people claiming 2+ hours screen time or 20+ hours on battery on stock phones! I'm nowhere near the average battery times.
I know I'm among the group of people with the problem of Android OS keeping the phone awake, and I see all of these kernels attempting to fix the msm_hsic_wakelock issue, but I'm still having that as well.
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Android OS is not keeping your phone awake. It's one of those crappy apps you have installed that are causing a wakelock causing the phone not to deep sleep.
Download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Use it to debug partial and kernel wakelocks (primarily partial wakelocks). Check CPU states using that app or download CPU Spy from play store.
It needs to be deep sleeping.
Google Now: Disable cards that you dont use.
Turn off auto brightness and adjust it to your liking (CM10.1 has a feature if you long press on status bar it will adjust its brightness so you can do it like that).
Use Franco Kernel r23 (it's the most stable one, if you want to experiment you can try r26).
Google Maps: turn off Google Maps Latitude and its automatic reporting of your location and uncheck auto reporting in your location.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5iaWdleWVzMHgwLnRyaWNrc3Rlcm1vZCJd use that app with Franco Kernel (or buy his app) to adjust its kernel settings.
http://zephik.com/upload/Screenshot_2012-12-14-19-05-58.png is a screenshot from last month. Pretty good battery overall for me.
Press the thanks if I helped. Will reply back if you have any questions or follow ups.
I've been on CM10.1 nightly 1231 for 3 days now and I can happily say that my battery is much better than before.
I've averaging 24-28 hours with 3 hours screen on with data only and usually charging at around 10%.
Always Enabled:
All Location Services
Google Sync
Always Disabled (except when needed):
Google Maps/Latitude location settings
Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS
Google Now cards that I don't normally use
Some things I've noticed:
- When I flash a new ROM and restore my TiBu (flashable zip or regular restore) I find that my battery life is average at best.
- When I flash a new ROM and fresh install my apps from the Play Store my battery life is good to great.
- Third party kernels can sometimes be wonky on this phone. I haven't tried Faux or Franco kernel since flashing 1231 because I've been getting great performance on CM kernel.
- When my kernel CPU is set to "ondemand" the performance is average at best. Changing it to "interactive" has helped improve my battery life... with no other kernel tweaks involved.
Apps like Facebook and Facebook Messenger seem to cause issues with my battery life also. When I was on CM10.1 nightly 1223 I had Facebook Messenger installed and my averages were 12-14 hours off battery. So by eliminating a few apps on fresh ROM installs I've been able to see the different effects they've had on my battery life. Basically any app that uses GPS can potentially be a battery hog even when the phone is not in use.
So from my points above are also some of my takeaways. Try a fresh install and watch what apps you install. Try a few different kernel governors (esp if you're on a custom ROM). You can improve performance by trial and error!
Good luck.
EDIT: zephiK's points above are also valid and I can confirm they've helped my battery life also.
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I've been on CM10.1 nightly 1231 for 3 days now and I can happily say that my battery is much better than before.
I've averaging 24-28 hours with 3 hours screen on with data only (WiFi disabled) and usually charging at around 10%. All Location Services (with exception of Google Maps/Latitude) are enabled and as well as Google Sync.
Some things I've noticed:
- When I flash a new ROM and restore my TiBu (flashable zip or regular restore) I find that my battery life is average at best.
- When I flash a new ROM and fresh install my apps from the Play Store my battery life is good to great.
- Third party kernels can sometimes be wonky on this phone. I haven't tried Faux or Franco kernel since flashing 1231 because I've been getting great performance on CM kernel.
- When my kernel CPU is set to "ondemand" the performance is average at best. Changing it to "interactive" has helped improve my battery life... with no other kernel tweaks involved.
Apps like Facebook Messenger seem to cause issues with my battery life also. When I was on CM10.1 nightly 1223 I had FB Msgr installed and my averages were 12-14 hours off battery. So by eliminating a few apps on fresh ROM installs I've been able to see the different effects they've had on my battery life.
So from my points above are also some of my takeaways. Try a fresh install and watch what apps you install. Try a few different kernel governors (esp if you're on a custom ROM). You can improve performance by trial and error!
Good luck.
EDIT: zephiK's points above are also valid and I can confirm they've helped my battery life also.
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I agree 100% with Facebook. The facebook app sucks your battery life HARD, especially if you plan to have it refreshing intervals. The app continues to request GPS location, so therefore because of that I disable the GPS on my phone completely (its that bug where if u have GPS globally on your phone you see it on the top left of your screen, and it doesnt go away). I leave FB all notifications off and manually sync it by pulling up on news feed. It's either that or check FB via mobile webpage.
Another thing I forgot is your refresh intervals. Make sure your apps don't have it on like syncing every 5/10/15/30/45/60 minutes. Set it to a couple hours more. using a twitter app? instead of having it sync in the background, just manually do it so you get all the missing tweets all at once. No reason to have it sync in the background randomly.
+1 on interactive. on Franco kernel it uses Interactive as it's default governor and it includes a lot of the latest interactive patches that really help out. It also includes qualcomm fixes with msic (not 100% but its better than stock), and newer drivers that will most likely be included in the next OTA.
Thank you for the replies everyone. In regards to all of the fixes you've suggested, I've tried all of them in the past week or two based on hours and hours of reading. This problem even exists on a freshly installed ROM with the bare minimum apps.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if there may be a problem with the radio in my phone. I live on a farm with an AT&T tower, yet I'm only getting "ok" signal, when I should be getting perfect signal. Called Google and just ordered my RMA, seeing as this battery problem has persisted from the day I first loaded up stock 4.2.1 on the phone upon receiving it.
If you constantly have a low signal, that will drain your battery a lot, because it has to boost the signal and that needs a lot more power.
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if there may be a problem with the radio in my phone. I live on a farm with an AT&T tower, yet I'm only getting "ok" signal, when I should be getting perfect signal.
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This would have been useful in your original post. Obviously "worse" signal is going to cause more drain on your battery. Hopefully it's just a flaky radio for you but if the replacement has the same issues then it's something else and you should keep at it until you figure it out! That's half the fun with these phones.
My only concern was that he said android os was up there, so that means he has a app preventing his phone from sleeping.
personally i wouldnt take a RMA on poor battery life but as a result due to signal.... but yeah signal does play a huge factor in your battery life
I got a S4 i9505 with albe95 S6 port ROM. I've tweaked the settings to pretty much disable all background activity so there's no syncing, no GPS, no bluetooth no NFC etc. I've got airplane mode on 24/7 with WiFi turned on. I've also installed Greenify and System Tuner Pro (I have root) and disabled a few GooglePlayServices services and stuff. Followed a tutorial for that. Looking at the settings app, I've got 40% battery remaining and have been on battery for 2 hours 40 minutes. Probably slept for 30-45 minutes and when it was on, I go on chrome, mess with Theme engine and some other light stuff. Now I just waited 20-30 minutes and it drained 4% screen off. I waited 5 minutes and it drained 1%. Is there an app that runs in the background and I leave my phone screen off overnight to tell me what processes are using the most battery and then disable those processes? I've tried to google it but none have helped. I've disabled Gtalk and a bunch of other processes, no luck. About to download Titanium and mess around with Greenify a bit more. I'm new to Android, reason I don't like Android is it's battery life. My iPod touch 5's 910mAh battery lasts 5 hours watching YouTube, surfing the web and light gaming (Clash of Clans) while the S4's 2600 mAh battery lasts 3-4 hours. Triple the size but less battery life?
Android's root is a lot more complicated than iOS, we just go to Cydia and download tweaks like an app from the Play Store. But yeah, any apps you guys use to check background processes using battery?
It's called BetterBatteryStats.
I don't think you will find it on the play store. Or if it's free there. There is a free version on the forums here. And I mean free, not cracked or anything.
And there's more to battery life than just mAh. Your iPod has a smaller screen and a smaller resolution. Which means less work for the GPU.
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It's called BetterBatteryStats.
I don't think you will find it on the play store. Or if it's free there. There is a free version on the forums here. And I mean free, not cracked or anything.
And there's more to battery life than just mAh. Your iPod has a smaller screen and a smaller resolution. Which means less work for the GPU.
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Right so I messed around with BBS and I discovered the different tabs. Looked at Kernel wakelocks and Partial wakelocks. Did some research and PowerManagementService is a big one. Was told to go to partial wakelock and found RILS and RILJ0. Did some more research on that and it's related to radio and wireless stuff. (Radio Interface Layer) Did some MORE research and apparently my modem is the problem. Someone suggested me to get "GetRIL" from Play Store and see if the two ... things match but GetRIL either isn't compatible or it doesn't work. Now problem is, I have Airplane mode on 24/7 and WiFi enabled so cellular should b turned off, right?
With airplane mode on yes, network should be turned off.
The modem can be changed anyway. So maybe you just have to update the modem.
Also try a different rom.
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With airplane mode on yes, network should be turned off.
The modem can be changed anyway. So maybe you just have to update the modem.
Also try a different rom.
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I read that ROMS and kernels have no affect on battery life other than disabling sync and background stuff in the settings app. Only time it will affect battery life is if it's badly written.
So if cellular is turned off, why is "Cell Standby" the second most draining thing behind "Screen"? All the websites I looked at just say "Turn airplane on and wifi on" but what I'm really looking for is to completely disable cellular with "System Tuner", or do something with root permissions to force stop cellular. I've got no SIM card installed.
Not true. Both kernel and ROM can have a significant effect on battery life. For the kernel, a custom kernel can improve battery life by allowing the processor to be undervolted, thus using less power per CPU cycle. The ROM could also have battery-saving features, e.g. Doze in Android 6.0. The ROM could also have battery-sapping bugs.
The modem is separate from the ROM and kernel. It will have its own enhancements and is updated frequently, so you should update it.
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* you should get to a menu where you have the option to turn off radio. But that's probably the same thing as airplane mode.
And roms and kernels do have an impact on battery life. I once flashed a kernel that drained my battery very quickly. The same rom without that kernel was fine and with great battery life.
So, as I said, consider changing your rom. Just to see if it is rom related or not.
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Not true. Both kernel and ROM can have a significant effect on battery life. For the kernel, a custom kernel can improve battery life by allowing the processor to be undervolted, thus using less power per CPU cycle. The ROM could also have battery-saving features, e.g. Doze in Android 6.0. The ROM could also have battery-sapping bugs.
The modem is separate from the ROM and kernel. It will have its own enhancements and is updated frequently, so you should update it.
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I updated my modem and bootloader from the same thread as my ROM, not sure if it did anything but I've managed to raise battery life from ~4 hours to ~7 hours just non-stop google chrome, theme-ing, downloading apps and trying to get better battery life. Also watched some YouTube videos.
I actually flashed this ROM because of themes, specifically the Avengers theme. Also there's a few pure black themes, did some research and pure black actually gives your battery ~40% more juice. Real world usage will probably be at least 15-20% more battery. But I'm still trying to find out how to fully disable cellular, anybody know? I've got root and Titanium Backup. I'm not sure what to freeze though and "Cell standby" continues to be the second most draining thing in the settings app.
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If you dial *#*#4636#*#* you should get to a menu where you have the option to turn off radio. But that's probably the same thing as airplane mode.
And roms and kernels do have an impact on battery life. I once flashed a kernel that drained my battery very quickly. The same rom without that kernel was fine and with great battery life.
So, as I said, consider changing your rom. Just to see if it is rom related or not.
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Dialing that says "Not registered with network" because I have no SIM installed. Cellular would kill my battery but even without a SIM, cellular still is active because of emergency.
I've googled everything I can think of, within 2 days I've increased my battery by at least 60% but cellular is driving me nuts. It's using ~20 of my battery while using my phone, that's 20% plus another ~20% once I find a way to get a pure black theme that works in third-party apps as well for my AMOLED display. Also, titanium backup isn't able to convert Google Play Services or GSF into a app so I can greenify it. It just processes and processes.
There is no theme that can make all apps black. Dark material makes many apps pitch black, but it's for CM based roms only.
You can get the pro version of greenify and maybe xposed. Then you can greenify system apps. Including Google play stuff. But greenify works only when screen is off. When screen is on, the greenified apps will run again.
Or use titanium backup to freeze everything Google play related, until you need it. But doing so will require you to input your gmail account again.
You might also freeze the phone app and anything else related to network. Since you're not going to use the phone for calls. Maybe that will solve cell issue.
Right, I have no idea how I did it but my phone for the past hour and a half has not dropped a single percent and has mostly been in deep sleep. No more wakelocks too, only thing I noticed was a alarm from Google in BBS but didn't mind that too much. Excited to see how much it will drop overnight.
Also, do you know the largest battery for the S4 that I can buy on amazon.ca? I don't want a case or a separate battery, I just want a battery that's more than 2600 mAh. So far, I think the ZeroLemon 3000 mAh battery is the biggest but I heard it's got no NFC. I don't use NFC or anything wireless other than WiFi but could you give me a quick explanation of what this does cause apparently it's a part of the battery itself.
You know that thing where you put two phones together (back to back) and it transfers data from one phone to the other? That is NFC. You can basically send web pages, app pages in the google play store and phone numbers with it. Just bring whatever you want to send on the screen and touch your phone on another phone to send it.
You can't sent actual apps and files.
The connection is established through connectors on the battery. That's why it won't work if the battery doesn't have one. It also is a method to verify the autenticity of batteries. Fake batteries don't usually have working NFC.
Now, the biggest S4 battery I heard of is about 9000 mAh. The second is 7500 mAh. I don't know if you can find them on Amazon.ca.
Use amplify and limit all "safe to limit" wakelocks.
Hey everyone, I purchased the 6P a week ago and I really don't understand the battery in this thing.... I'm coming from LG G3 which never faced battery drain during stand by. I am not even using the 6P (still haven't migrated from the G3) because of the unreasonable battery drain during sleep, I have WiFi always on and (no I don't accept to turn it to Never during sleep) I never did this with any phone anyway, my G3 doesn't lose more than 1-2% during the whole night (7 hours).
Please take a look and tell me if this makes any sense because I'm thinking of returning the thing if it's not just a software issue:
Time of screenshots:
3:02 AM
11:48 PM
Taken today, phone left untouched at home.
Battery life is really hit or miss, many lose 0-3% during the night while others like yourself lose a ton. Try changing your WiFi to either 2.4GHz only or 5GHz only, as some found that helps out. Custom kernels can also control WiFi wakelocks, and I've found running Franco kernel does a great job at helping standby life.
How's the signal strength from within your home? Having a weak cell signal can assist in battery drain. However that's some serious drainage. I'm thinking you have one or more wakelocks preventing the phone to deep sleep. If you're rooted, greenify is a must. It has boosted my battery life by a ton. I would also try to get some more battery stats applications. Better battery stats was/is my favorite app but I'm not sure its working on MM
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Battery life is really hit or miss, many lose 0-3% during the night while others like yourself lose a ton. Try changing your WiFi to either 2.4GHz only or 5GHz only, as some found that helps out. Custom kernels can also control WiFi wakelocks, and I've found running Franco kernel does a great job at helping standby life.
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Although it is not convenient to switch between the 2 bands ( Work is on 2.4GHz and Home is on 5GHz) but I will try it to see if it helps any.
Do you think this will be fixed with software update? and is it because Android M or because 6P on Android M?
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How's the signal strength from within your home? Having a weak cell signal can assist in battery drain. However that's some serious drainage. I'm thinking you have one or more wakelocks preventing the phone to deep sleep. If you're rooted, greenify is a must. It has boosted my battery life by a ton. I would also try to get some more battery stats applications. Better battery stats was/is my favorite app but I'm not sure its working on MM
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Signal strength is fine at my home ( never faced an issue with G3).
I haven't installed anything that can hog battery like that, I only set-up Email, Hangouts to Sync, I never used Greenify or any battery saving apps ( The battery should last as advertised with it's standard capacity), i'm not asking for a magical battery life, just what's expected of a 3450 mAh.
I'll post Sambatterystats results shortly.
See if WiFi scanning is turned off
Many say the battery drain issue really spiked with the update to Android 6.01. So it appears to be SW related, and not HW, FWIW.
I found my fix is as Geoff53 said above, install a custom kernel (Kylo in my case). And I use Greenify on top of it. Great battery life now.
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See if WiFi scanning is turned off
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Scanning is off. WiFi on the other hand is Always on.
jejb said:
Many say the battery drain issue really spiked with the update to Android 6.01. So it appears to be SW related, and not HW, FWIW.
I found my fix is as Geoff53 said above, install a custom kernel (Kylo in my case). And I use Greenify on top of it. Great battery life now.
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I hope it's just the 6.0.1 .. because I really would hate to return it..
Well, I'd go as far as flashing a custom ROM if that would completely solve the problem, not just the Kernel.
I initially had bad batter drain, not now. Unplug 6:30 am and 10pm still have 45%. Use to be dead by 7pm. I found the culprits were bad apps that I thought were OK. Ebay, Amazon, Facebook, ESPN, Waze.... when I deleted these and a few more, then rebooted all was good. Haven't tried putting them back though. I leave GPS, WIFI, blue tooth... all on. Even have 3 mail apps all set to "push." I don't twitter though.
Make a back up with Titanium or MyBackup, factory wipe and reset and see if your battery improves with only basic apps and mail. Bet it's bad apps. If improves slowly add apps until you find the culprit.
MLT2004 said:
I initially had bad batter drain, not now. Unplug 6:30 am and 10pm still have 45%. Use to be dead by 7pm. I found the culprits were bad apps that I thought were OK. Ebay, Amazon, Facebook, ESPN, Waze.... when I deleted these and a few more, then rebooted all was good. Haven't tried putting them back though. I leave GPS, WIFI, blue tooth... all on. Even have 3 mail apps all set to "push." I don't twitter though.
Make a back up with Titanium or MyBackup, factory wipe and reset and see if your battery improves with only basic apps and mail. Bet it's bad apps. If improves slowly add apps until you find the culprit.
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In my opinion, the " Bad App" theory is getting a bit out of hand. I installed the same apps as on my G3 (never had a bad app on it) , and 6P has been factory reset and insatlled nothing at all, only logged into gmail and hangouts, and I tried with the (WiFi during sleep set to never ) then the drain is not as bad anymore but I lost realtime push notifications which is unacceptable.
Now if believe there are so many "bad apps" then we can have the Doze which is supposed to minimize app drain if not terminate it, but that's not the case here obviously, so I think it's actually specific WiFi bug on Android M and not bad apps.
jejb said:
Many say the battery drain issue really spiked with the update to Android 6.01. So it appears to be SW related, and not HW, FWIW.
I found my fix is as Geoff53 said above, install a custom kernel (Kylo in my case). And I use Greenify on top of it. Great battery life now.
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This for me, was getting lovely life and slooooow standby.
Updated the latest build yesterday and Google Services has hammered by battery today, gonna give it a few days to settle down though
chaosdark said:
Hey everyone, I purchased the 6P a week ago and I really don't understand the battery in this thing.... I'm coming from LG G3 which never faced battery drain during stand by. I am not even using the 6P (still haven't migrated from the G3) because of the unreasonable battery drain during sleep, I have WiFi always on and (no I don't accept to turn it to Never during sleep) I never did this with any phone anyway, my G3 doesn't lose more than 1-2% during the whole night (7 hours).
Please take a look and tell me if this makes any sense because I'm thinking of returning the thing if it's not just a software issue:
Time of screenshots:
3:02 AM
11:48 PM
Taken today, phone left untouched at home.
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did u somehow manage to decrease standby drain?
I have now had my galaxy s8 for over a year and i have noticed my battery life hasnt always been that great.
I have noticed that over a total day i only get 2-3 hours screen on time.
For an example when i go with the bus home for 25 min my battery often drains over 10% without even using the screen for 25 minutes.
Once i installed another rom called lightrom or something over the renovate ice rom and it got much better the first day but second day when i got more apps on it begun to be bad again.
I then went back to renovate ice rom and i was back to bad battery life again when i installed all my apps.
BUT in this case i have an app called greenify and i greenify all my apps in the background but i still have a massive standby drain
I have never found out what has caused my problem but for sure it cant last a whole day
I have this thought that it can be weak signal but i have disabled the option "Keep mobile data turned on" and followed multiple tutorials of how to make battery life better
AOD off, Location off, Wifi off, bluetooth on ( for gear s3), nfc off,
So i only use bluetooth and mobile data.
I apreciate all help
fojumdk said:
I have now had my galaxy s8 for over a year and i have noticed my battery life hasnt always been that great.
I have noticed that over a total day i only get 2-3 hours screen on time.
For an example when i go with the bus home for 25 min my battery often drains over 10% without even using the screen for 25 minutes.
Once i installed another rom called lightrom or something over the renovate ice rom and it got much better the first day but second day when i got more apps on it begun to be bad again.
I then went back to renovate ice rom and i was back to bad battery life again when i installed all my apps.
BUT in this case i have an app called greenify and i greenify all my apps in the background but i still have a massive standby drain
I have never found out what has caused my problem but for sure it cant last a whole day
I have this thought that it can be weak signal but i have disabled the option "Keep mobile data turned on" and followed multiple tutorials of how to make battery life better
AOD off, Location off, Wifi off, bluetooth on ( for gear s3), nfc off,
So i only use bluetooth and mobile data.
I apreciate all help
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Since the problem starts when you install your apps, I would start with checking which apps are the culprit. Apps like snapchat and Facebook are notoriously known for unreasonable high battery drain in standby.
se1988 said:
Since the problem starts when you install your apps, I would start with checking which apps are the culprit. Apps like snapchat and Facebook are notoriously known for unreasonable high battery drain in standby.
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Personally I have auto sync off, no battery saver, amplify, and display set to WQHD but I also use dark themes via substratum and my average battery life is roughly about 8 hours SOT
Edit: Sorry meant to quote OP
se1988 said:
Since the problem starts when you install your apps, I would start with checking which apps are the culprit. Apps like snapchat and Facebook are notoriously known for unreasonable high battery drain in standby.
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I have deleted Facebook a couple of weeks ago and that made no huge difference. Though I think snapchat may be the one. But I often have it hibernated