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[FAQ][ROOT]Answers to Questions about Root

All Your Root Questions Answered:​
This thread is a work in progress. Ask your root questions, and I'll answer them in the OP. This way we can clean up the other thread.
Thank you @DmdStar, @somberfox, @CrashXXL, and everyone else I missed (which I will add to the OP)
Q: I followed all the directions and after I finished the root procedure, my device is stuck at the M logo? HALP.
A: You didn't follow all the directions, and now you're going to have to start over from step one. Flash SU6-7 in RSD Lite as mentioned in the directions, and follow the directions word-for-word. You're only wasting your own time, not ours.
Q: My phone is stuck at the black green and the root script isn't detecting my phone?
A: You're probably using a USB3.0 port which isn't supported. Move your phone to a USB2.0 port and install the Qualcomm drivers provided in the download.
Q: Why is it taking so long, I think it froze.
A: Just leave your phone alone and get a coffee. Make that three. It's a long process.
Q: Can I install blah-blah ROM?
A: NO! While this is a perma-root, you are unable to disable write-protection, therefore you can't use Safestrap.
Q: Now that I'm rooted, can I unlock my bootloader?
A: SU4-21 was the last system update that worked with Sunshine. Unless you can get in contact with the Chinese middleman, you're out of luck. Sorry.
Q: Why won't my changes to /system persist after a reboot?
A: Unfortunately, no one has managed to circumvent write protection on the device, therefore you can't do anything to /system and expect it to persist unless you do soft-reboots. Sorry.
Q: Can I delete system apps?
A: No, unless you edit the system.mbn and split it into 16mb chunk files. There's no way around this, sorry.
Q: Can I install your Busybox image?
A: I mean if you want a brick, go right ahead. No one's stopping you.
Q: Viper4Android?
A: Which needs Busybox. Again, feel free to proceed at your own risk.
Q: Can I downgrade to SU6-7 if I took the upgrade to SU6-7.2?
A: Yes, you can. There's no magic trick to downgrading to SU6-7, just flash it in RSD Lite.
Q: Can i have only root with SU6-7 and locked bootloader?
A: You can not unlock your bootloader past SU4-21.
Q: Wait, if we can downgrade to SU6-7, why not just downgrade to SU4-21 and unlock our bootloaders?
A: Because you can't. Debating about it on the forums won't magically make it work neither. Nor will complaining about Motorola locking down the devices. You bought an on-contract device that you knew was going to be locked and stock. They also had a developer edition MAXX for sale. If you didn't get it, blame yourself, not Motorola/Verizon.
Q: Can we take the OTA update without losing root?
A: Yes, but you will lose Xposed if you do.(Answered by @DmdStar)

Thanks for the faq @thenameisnigel
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yeah thx

Nice one ! Thanks for Viper4Android information. What preset did you choose (battery saving, high/super quality) ?
Actually I don't see what stops you from deleting an app, although it's faster "frozing" it via Titanium for example (paid solution). I removed some files successfully (I should try with apps). Also, did you try installing another ROM ? I didn't take the time to try it but it might work with the python script. You just would have to replace almost all memory blocks, which would take 16+ hours (!!).
I've another question : did someone succeed in installing CF.Lumen ?
Thanks again for the faq
PS : agree with Artimunor just below my post, change colors please !

thenameisnigel said:
Q: Can I delete system apps?
A: No.
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Wait... here you say it's impossible....
however in the other thread you replied to my post with this:
thenameisnigel said:
Yes
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My original post:
Artimunor said:
Thats the reason i would like to know how to safely alter the image we upload to the phone, to add/remove apps from it.
Is it save to just mount the image on a linux system as a HD and alter the /system directory?
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Whats the deal here?
I already started creating a linux environment for this, just did not had the time to complete it yet with my dayjob (already pretty sleep depraved)
P.S. that azure blue really hurts the eyes.

Artimunor said:
Wait... here you say it's impossible....
however in the other thread you replied to my post with this:
My original post:
Whats the deal here?
I already started creating a linux environment for this, just did not had the time to complete it yet with my dayjob (already pretty sleep depraved)
P.S. that azure blue really hurts the eyes.
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It's possible if you edit the image like what you're doing. That answer was meant more for people who want to edit /system directly from the device. I'll clarify it.
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can i have only root with SU7-6 and locked bootloader?

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danger2u said:
can i have only root with SU7-6 and locked bootloader?
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thenameisnigel said:
Q: Can i have only root with SU6-7 and locked bootloader?
A: You can not unlock your bootloader past SU4-21.
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thenameisnigel said:
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ok.
but can i have root with locked bootloader with the method that bricks the phone?

danger2u said:
ok.
but can i have root with locked bootloader with the method that bricks the phone?
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Yes.
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if i restart the phone,the root will remain ?
Busybox can be installed?

danger2u said:
if i restart the phone,the root will remain ?
Busybox can be installed?
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Only if you put it in the image before you flash it to the phone it seems, if you do it afterwards it does not persist.

another question
can we take the OTA update without losing root?

danger2u said:
another question
can we take the OTA update without losing root?
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Yes. But you will lose xposed if you installed it.
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danger2u said:
another question
can we take the OTA update without losing root?
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Didnt try it myself but from what ive gathered if you used the crashxxl method you will not loose root if you take the su6-7.2 OTA update.

Artimunor said:
Didnt try it myself but from what ive gathered if you used the crashxxl method you will not loose root if you take the su6-7.2 OTA update.
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i updated
the root it s still here.
will see with Lollipop if ever will be out for Droid maxx
ps: don t update if u want xposed.

danger2u said:
take it the update
the root it s still here.
will see with Lollipop if ever will be out for Droid maxx
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Dude why are you telling people to take the update when we already know that it'll break Xposed? If you're not here to help, don't post. Simple as that.
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thenameisnigel said:
Dude why are you telling people to take the update when we already know that it'll break Xposed? If you're not here to help, don't post. Simple as that.
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I take it the update
i don t tell anyone to update the Droid maxx.

are you referring to losing functionality of a baked in exposed? I am running the crash exploit, with non-baked exposed, on SU6-7.2

Root and Bootloader Unlock AT&T XT1097 on 5.1

The latest KingRoot now can root the ATT Moto X on 5.1 (for real this time). I had to factory reset my phone before KingRoot was successful.
First backup your stuff. Then download the latest KingRoot apk from their website and install the app. Open the app and click on root. It may take several tries but it will work. Once you have root download Sunshine and click through the prompts, allow root access, etc. Enter payment information and unlock the boot loader!

So many times have I been let down by this ... I don't know if I should try it and get my hopes up. I'll be devastated if it doesn't work. xD
Edit: Well, looks like I am going to have to find a magical unicorn to gift you for this information. Indeed it works! Thanks much!

Congrats guys! I'm really happy for you.
Finally you can unlock your bootloader either!

just rooted, unlocked bootloader and installed cm13, thanks so much!!

How did you unlock the bootloader? Did you use sunshine after rooting, or some other method?

ForTheSteel said:
How did you unlock the bootloader? Did you use sunshine after rooting, or some other method?
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I used sunshine after rooting with KingRoot.

theron1998 said:
I used sunshine after rooting with KingRoot.
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i did the same

Does Kingroot keep failing for anyone else? Tried factory reset, should I not be signing in after that reset? This is try 6 or 7 I think for me, failing each time.

pnewman98 said:
Does Kingroot keep failing for anyone else? Tried factory reset, should I not be signing in after that reset? This is try 6 or 7 I think for me, failing each time.
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I didn't sign in or set up my device other than WiFi to download KingRoot as I was just going to reset and install CyanogenMod right after unlock. KingRoot will probably take many tries before success, it took me about 10 tries.

awesome news for sure but unfortunately i cant afford the $25 price tag to get it unlock, hopefully i can get it unlock someway other

Is it only for AT&T? if so, VZW Moto X XT1060s will never be able to have BL unlocked or rooted..

247streetdoctor said:
Is it only for AT&T? if so, VZW Moto X XT1060s will never be able to have BL unlocked or rooted..
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KingRoot might work. You could try it.

247streetdoctor said:
Is it only for AT&T? if so, VZW Moto X XT1060s will never be able to have BL unlocked or rooted..
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Verizon has notified Motorola that XT1096 bootloaders can now be unlocked via Motorola process. This has been discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/motorola-unlocking-verizon-moto-x-2014-t3291104

I too can confirm that this works. I just unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP Recovery, and I'm on my way to flashing a custom ROM. YAY!
Side note: Paying to unlock the Bootloader is Bologna!!!

iraqmilner said:
I too can confirm that this works. I just unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP Recovery, and I'm on my way to flashing a custom ROM. YAY!
Side note: Paying to unlock the Bootloader is Bologna!!!
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What is mean Bologna ?
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Yann68 said:
What is mean Bologna ?
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You speak spanish right? Bologna tanslates to salchichón. It is an expression that basically means mierda.
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zeifers said:
just rooted, unlocked bootloader and installed cm13, thanks so much!!
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Did you have the stagefright update installed that AT&T pushed out a month or 2 ago?

Abacus060 said:
Did you have the stagefright update installed that AT&T pushed out a month or 2 ago?
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I have that and this all worked for me.

Holy sweet jesus my bootloader is unlocked!!!
I was about to go buy a new phone so $25 was the much more affordable option.

could i get marshmallow?
Could I flash the x1095 pure firmware to get marshmallow by ota??

Root methods for Amazon version Moto G5 Plus?

Any methods for rooting our phone?

seri0099 said:
Any methods for rooting our phone?
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Maybe. See the following thread: RESOLVED: Root for Moto G5 Plus Amazon Edition

bennor3814 said:
Maybe. See the following thread: RESOLVED: Root for Moto G5 Plus Amazon Edition
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now this method not working on moto g5 plus only bootloop...

we need the aboot file to confirm scratch addr, but nobody with nun amz ver is helping with that...

krison01 said:
we need the aboot file to confirm scratch addr, but nobody with nun amz ver is helping with that...
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how to get it from non amz version? i'll ask peoples to help us...
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So i found aboot file(thanks to @defcomg), can you extract scratch addr from it?

seri0099 said:
Any methods for rooting our phone?
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It should be possible with initroot. The thread I made linked to an all in one tool which was claimed to work on our device. Obviously this isn't the case, but the reason why it didn't work was not because the exploit doesn't work on our phone. We just need more research and time.
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sn0b0ard said:
It should be possible with initroot. The thread I made linked to an all in one tool which was claimed to work on our device. Obviously this isn't the case, but the reason why it didn't work was not because the exploit doesn't work on our phone. We just need more research and time.
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Bump..is anyone aware of any progress on this front?

SMS786 said:
Bump..is anyone aware of any progress on this front?
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no progress was made
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4...oinitroot-motorola-bootloader-t3639316/page50

Can't install gcam on mi a1

Hey I'm new to this and I want to install gcam on my mi a1. But I don't know how . Every apk I installed has crashed or didn't install. Anyone please help me.

Bax.bie said:
Hey I'm new to this and I want to install gcam on my mi a1. But I don't know how . Every apk I installed has crashed or didn't install. Anyone please help me.
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There are tons of tutorials on how to do it. Need to enable camera 2 api. Which in order to do so you have to unlock boot loader, enable it, then lock boot loader. Most likely wiping your device in the process. Once that is done then when you install the apk it will no longer crash.
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As I mentioned there are tons of tutorials through it forum. All you need to do is search. There are newer ones than the one I used and possibly better ones, I don't know for sure.
these are the steps I followed back when i was still on Oreo. Im not sure if there is a better option now but its the one i chose and it worked:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/root-enable-camera2api-eis-t3749541
My device was wiped in the process so prepare for that.
I have had several monthly updates and the Pie update followed by monthly updates to Mar19 on Pie.
So yes updates still work and my API remains enabled.
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That means I need to backup my data before I unlock the bootloader?
Unlock bootloader cause data loss?

It can. There is a way somewhere in the instructions with pressing a key combo that supposedly doesn't wipe. But didn't work for me. So just be prepared.
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drizzt09 said:
It can. There is a way somewhere in the instructions with pressing a key combo that supposedly doesn't wipe. But didn't work for me. So just be prepared.
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Thanks for your help brother ??.
One thing... Is unlocking Bootloader risky?
Can do a damage to my phone?

Bax.bie said:
Thanks for your help brother [emoji106][emoji4].
One thing... Is unlocking Bootloader risky?
Can do a damage to my phone?
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You are unlocking and then relocking
There is always a risk doing any of these mods of bricking your phone.
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drizzt09 said:
You are unlocking and then relocking
There is always a risk doing any of these mods of bricking your phone.
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Okay man.thanks a lot.?
One last thing. How to relock the bootloader after unlocking it?

Security warning with unlocked bootloader and Zoom video

Is it possible to relock the bootloader while keeping the build.prop edits for miracast and tether?

goodjuju said:
Is it possible to relock the bootloader while keeping the build.prop edits for miracast and tether?
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Sure possible but just as likely to soft brick.
Magisk should be able to hide the unlocked bootloader.
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sd_shadow said:
Sure possible but just as likely to soft brick.
Magisk should be able to hide the unlocked bootloader.
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According to this article hiding bootloader is no longer possible.
https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk/
Am I missing anything?

goodjuju said:
According to this article hiding bootloader is no longer possible.
https://www.xda-developers.com/safetynet-hardware-attestation-hide-root-magisk/
Am I missing anything?
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Google cannot just throw a switch, and every Android device does this.
This requires Motorola to implement the changes to their updates.
It's possible that they have, but Motorola is normally very slow to make big changes like this.
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sd_shadow said:
Google cannot just throw a switch, and every Android device does this.
This requires Motorola to implement the changes to their updates.
It's possible that they have, but Motorola is normally very slow to make big changes like this.
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There in lies the problem. Motorola has stopped its updates for G5 Plus, last update was Feb1, 2019. Planned obsolescence! IMO too soon.