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Hello everyone,
I have got the xperia but I was just as you confused about whether the it had got 256 or 384mb ram, so I decided to call the special x1 support to get my question solved.
The guy seemed very educated on the phone, as he answered my question without hesitation.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong. It IS 256mb. I was told that he had mixed up internal memory and RAM.
This was really dissapointing to hear as I cannot get how a senior product manager can repetetly make the same miss saying over and over again without ever publicly say that this was a miss saying.
None the less, I am keeping my phone. Its great still.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong
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do you know who is 'that guy' to whom you refer to?
*edit* didn't see you already know who he is
TBH I can't believe it
No, Xperia get 384 Mb.
There is explanation about that.
From
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-answers
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What is the actual RAM in the device?
The X1 has 384 MB RAM but you'll note that the device information screen says 256MB. This is because the X1 also has an additional 128MB RAM that's only accessible to the CPU/3D chip.
I am aware of this explanation but this guy really seemed sure about that it was a miss saying. He said that there is, ONLY 256mb ram.
edit: Where does this rumor come from anyway? That there is 128mb on cpu/gpu ram?
Agaas said:
Hello everyone,
I have got the xperia but I was just as you confused about whether the it had got 256 or 384mb ram, so I decided to call the special x1 support to get my question solved.
The guy seemed very educated on the phone, as he answered my question without hesitation.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong. It IS 256mb. I was told that he had mixed up internal memory and RAM.
This was really dissapointing to hear as I cannot get how a senior product manager can repetetly make the same miss saying over and over again without ever publicly say that this was a miss saying.
None the less, I am keeping my phone. Its great still.
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Hmmm... could you ask him again quoting what Matt said at Tracy & Matt? Or rather, simply just ask him how much memory is dedicated to the 3D Chip.
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Hmmm... could you ask him again quoting what Matt said at Tracy & Matt? Or rather, simply just ask him how much memory is dedicated to the 3D Chip.
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Okey, I will. But later when Ive got time to
inuka said:
No, Xperia get 384 Mb.
There is explanation about that.
From
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-answers
Q&A
What is the actual RAM in the device?
The X1 has 384 MB RAM but you'll note that the device information screen says 256MB. This is because the X1 also has an additional 128MB RAM that's only accessible to the CPU/3D chip.
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I think X1's RAM is 256MB at present.
Why Matt can say "128MB RAM for CPU/3D"? I don’t think Matt can know this (128MB RAM for CPU/3D) by the normal review.
ahyi said:
I think X1's RAM is 256MB at present.
Why Matt can say "128MB RAM for CPU/3D"? I don’t think Matt can know this (128MB RAM for CPU/3D) by the normal review.
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He got a PRESS release, and i'm pretty much positive that they get a detailed spec sheet or something with that. He wouldn't have said it on his own, of that i am sure.
Pardon my ignorance. Who are Matt and Tracy? I've been on their site but it doesn't have anything about them on there? I presume its a London based site given the 0208 number on their 'Contact' page
Have they either
a) been involved in the design/manafacturing process of the X1 or
b) actually opened up the device and seen for themselves?
Maby someone with a bit of knowledge behind circuits on phones could have a look at this and tell us if there infact is 384mb or not:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1011334&native_or_pdf=pdf
This shows images on the xperias internal parts.
(found the link in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434895&highlight=inside+xperia)
Ask Tracy and Matt where that information came from... OH YEAH, assumption because Xperiancers said 384 and the device shows 256 RAM. There's no way to prove there's 128 dedicated to graphics when you have the device, there's no spec that shows it. They know as little as we do and assumed.
Agaas said:
Hello everyone,
I have got the xperia but I was just as you confused about whether the it had got 256 or 384mb ram, so I decided to call the special x1 support to get my question solved.
The guy seemed very educated on the phone, as he answered my question without hesitation.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong. It IS 256mb. I was told that he had mixed up internal memory and RAM.
This was really dissapointing to hear as I cannot get how a senior product manager can repetetly make the same miss saying over and over again without ever publicly say that this was a miss saying.
None the less, I am keeping my phone. Its great still.
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The 'guy" MAGNUS the MORON
Hi all. I was the one who was sherlocking the internals of the prototype tested by the FCC, I would regard the one tested by the commission as being the final version. The part number 8MA98jq257 xv99 is security badged with a unique part number manufactured by a semiconductor company called
Micron Technology Inc, They specialise in mobile ram of many variants.
and 128Mb is not out of the question since they have sizes up to a 1Gb,
The recent news of the storm successor which is in works now has alledgely 1Gb of Ram, So it's not totally out of the question.
Thanks all....time to do some IC Sherlocking, Any new information I will keep you informed.
ugh, this is likely a bad news
I've inspected this link http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1011334&native_or_pdf=pdf
and compared it to the micron mobile ram database from the official website, here is my thoughts :
1. so far the evidence suggest that there is only 1 RAM chip in X1, the one that has 8MA898 JQ257 written on it.
2. there are no 384 RAM module in this world AFAIK.
3. so the best guess would be that RAM chip is the one with 256MB, if it a 512MB chip then it won't make sense, and it's more expensive.
4. and sadly, there is a big probability that there are actually no RAM dedicated for the GPU, because there are no other RAM chip there so far.
5. if we speculate that THAT is the VRAM, then where is the system RAM? That is the only RAM chip! Except if there are more RAM chip, that is could be the one covered with heatsink but I doubt it.
nap007 said:
ugh, this is likely a bad news
I've inspected this link http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1011334&native_or_pdf=pdf
and compared it to the micron mobile ram database from the official website, here is my thoughts :
1. so far the evidence suggest that there is only 1 RAM chip in X1, the one that has 8MA898 JQ257 written on it.
2. there are no 384 RAM module in this world AFAIK.
3. so the best guess would be that RAM chip is the one with 256MB, if it a 512MB chip then it won't make sense, and it's more expensive.
4. and sadly, there is a big probability that there are actually no RAM dedicated for the GPU, because there are no other RAM chip there so far.
5. if we speculate that THAT is the VRAM, then where is the system RAM? That is the only RAM chip! Except if there are more RAM chip, that is could be the one covered with heatsink but I doubt it.
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Need i point out that this document was created on the 10th of the last month, a few days after the announcement was spread about 384 MB RAM... so has shots of a proto, definitely. Even the people who got their hands on an Xperia by the end of the month identified it as a proto.
Anyways... Just leave this discussion. What's the use? It could be this or it could be that. SE sucks in their marketing - kudos to them on that - but i am certain that Xperia will be one hell of a phone. It does have a 3d Chip with dedicated RAM... but how much? that we can only assume to be 128 as that would bring the overall total to 384... but let's just wait and see.
I almost gave up on the set. My brother is in Dubai and i gave him the ok to purchase a Touch Pro for me, 'cos i could not wait for Xperia any more, but then i played with the Touch Pro here at a local shop and i changed my mind again. The Panels interface has much more to offer than the beatifully done TF3D... And considering that there actually turns out to be dedicated memory for the 3D chip on the Xperia, any lag will probably be overtaken with updates and so. (my cousin's Touch Diamond was extremely slow unless he applied an update last month to it, why can't Se do the same?)
I don't get why there's such a huge argument about specs, it's STILL slow in panel mode, so what does it matter? As the person who has his said, it's not "dog slow", but it's noticeably slower than he expected. That tells me that it doesn't matter how much RAM it has, it could have 4 gigs, if it doesn't perform up to expectations it's not enough.
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I don't get why there's such a huge argument about specs, it's STILL slow in panel mode, so what does it matter? As the person who has his said, it's not "dog slow", but it's noticeably slower than he expected. That tells me that it doesn't matter how much RAM it has, it could have 4 gigs, if it doesn't perform up to expectations it's not enough.
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TF3D on Touch Diamond was damn slow and buggy at times, it sometimes still is slow in refreshing when you switch through the tabs. the Diamond's update resolved a lot of issues on TF3D performance... so is an update not possible by SE to improve their Panels further?
From the latest vids seen of Xperia, the panels are not slow. The only panel that has been noted to be slow is the Xperia Panel by SE which takes a second or two to refresh it's shortcuts... but overall there is no major difference neither is there any lag.
Furthermore, the guy said that it is slow SOMETIMES, not always.
msalmank said:
TF3D on Touch Diamond was damn slow and buggy at times, it sometimes still is slow in refreshing when you switch through the tabs. the Diamond's update resolved a lot of issues on TF3D performance... so is an update not possible by SE to improve their Panels further?
From the latest vids seen of Xperia, the panels are not slow. The only panel that has been noted to be slow is the Xperia Panel by SE which takes a second or two to refresh it's shortcuts... but overall there is no major difference neither is there any lag.
Furthermore, the guy said that it is slow SOMETIMES, not always.
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Ya know what? I give up. You're the definition of fanboy, anything bad that's said about this phone is wrong because you say it is and you've decided it will be amazing. I think it's a good phone, but what do numbers matter if you see the performance is slow "sometimes" anyways? 384, 256, you realize that doesn't mean a damn thing right? As for the panels not being slow, HA. I've seen plenty of videos since the release and they're noticeably laggy for certain panels. Can they improve it? Sure. Are we judging future improvements? Well, that depends, when the Diamond came out did people say "it has potential to be fast"? No, they said it's slow, call it how it is.
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Ya know what? I give up. You're the definition of fanboy, anything bad that's said about this phone is wrong because you say it is and you've decided it will be amazing. I think it's a good phone, but what do numbers matter if you see the performance is slow "sometimes" anyways? 384, 256, you realize that doesn't mean a damn thing right? As for the panels not being slow, HA. I've seen plenty of videos since the release and they're noticeably laggy for certain panels. Can they improve it? Sure. Are we judging future improvements? Well, that depends, when the Diamond came out did people say "it has potential to be fast"? No, they said it's slow, call it how it is.
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I don´t give a f**K about how much ram there is The one thing I care about are speed and stability and this phone is the best WM device ever that I have used and I have owned a bunch. The ordinary WM OS interface flies on the phone and it is totally untweaked. Ok the panels a bit slow sometimes, it takes some second to change from one to another. But I seldom uses them - just uses the ordinary Windows todayscreen with Mobileshell, uses the mediapanel and radiopanel sometimes but none of the other. And the battery seems very good, played with all day yesterday and still got 40% when arriving home, my Diamond was dead after the same use and even the Touch Pro was near death
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Ya know what? I give up. You're the definition of fanboy, anything bad that's said about this phone is wrong because you say it is and you've decided it will be amazing. I think it's a good phone, but what do numbers matter if you see the performance is slow "sometimes" anyways? 384, 256, you realize that doesn't mean a damn thing right? As for the panels not being slow, HA. I've seen plenty of videos since the release and they're noticeably laggy for certain panels. Can they improve it? Sure. Are we judging future improvements? Well, that depends, when the Diamond came out did people say "it has potential to be fast"? No, they said it's slow, call it how it is.
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The reason i don't call it as i see it, is because no one has done a full fledge review yet, so i can't say for sure. And most videos i have seen so far have been fast. Yes panels are slow at times in switching or refreshing, but in the latest reviews, most of them are simply awesome.
Fanboy? i've only owned one SE set in my entire life and the best thing i liked about it was its headphones. I call this phone amazing, 'cos i see it to be one, not because i'm being a fan of a brand. I stand by my statement that Panels have more potential than TF3D, and i beleive that it is a huge concern that they said 384 MB and then it turns out to be 256 MB... but excuse me for being an optimist and assuming that they most likely have 128 MB dedicated to the 3D Chip. Sure we don't have any hard-proof that it has 128 MB dedicated RAM to the 3D chip, but we don't have any hard-proof otherwise either.
As for the "sometimes" slow performance, i only said that the guys who already have an Xperia in their hands are saying that it is slow in Panel switching but only at times. I agree that the Xperia Panel (SE default Panel) is slow, because i've seen it to be even in the latest videos, but as for the other panels, they are fast and smooth.
In short... to each their own opinion. But don't insult me by labelling me a fanboy making my opinion biased. To me, apart from the missing Accelerometer, Xperia seems to be the best Windows mobile device out there, and that has nothing to do with the Brand.
Take a look at these... and then tell me, are the panels not fast? Like i said, the Xperia X1 Panel is slow in refreshing its icons, but the others are fast and smooth. And not just the panels... switching from landscape to portrait and so on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnnDosWiuY
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hjatGzL-QRA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iTfVYd0fwYQ
Another one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3X824_dDgms
This one though is stretched wide, but still worth looking at.
I just found this picture
dev.odroid.com/wiki/odroid-t/pds/FrontPage/s_blockdiagram.jpg
So does it mean only 384MB DDR is available in system?
May be this is the reason why 305M ram shows in JP3 firmware.
That could make sense.
I wonder what the difference between them is?...Could one be dedicated to the GPU or in charge of background stuff?
Did anyone notice MFC 1080p 30 fps there?
That system block diagram isn't a Samsung official one, and frankly, i think it's wrong.
If the main memory in the Galaxy S was LPDDR1, we'd see lower GPU performance, MUCH lower. Memory bandwidth is everything when it comes to GPU on mobile devices like this.
Pika007 said:
That system block diagram isn't a Samsung official one, and frankly, i think it's wrong.
If the main memory in the Galaxy S was LPDDR1, we'd see lower GPU performance, MUCH lower. Memory bandwidth is everything when it comes to GPU on mobile devices like this.
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GPU RAM must be OneDRAM，OneDRAM is much faster than normal DRAM.
You can google "OneDRAM".
So I guess we might not really have 512MB of ram (as advertised)... isn't it? I mean, if these MBs are reserved to GPU use only. There will come a day when they will be needed for other use than graphics :|.
They are not reserved for GPU use only.
OneDRAM is like an intersection for routing information with as-little-as-possible blockades in the middle.
Splitting the memory to "conventional" ram and onedram is going against the very principal of onedram. I am having a hard time to believe they actually did that.
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So I guess we might not really have 512MB of ram (as advertised)... isn't it? I mean, if these MBs are reserved to GPU use only. There will come a day when they will be needed for other use than graphics :|.
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There is no official statement about RAM size.
I noticed the diagram says "TFT LCDC". That seems wrong, does it not?
coocood said:
There is no official statement about RAM size.
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This. You'll find a lot of press about the Galaxy S having 512mb RAM, but where does Samsung itself advertise this? I cannot find anything about it anywhere on Samsungs website. Maybe we should ask them?
GSMarena pressed on the issue when the phone was released, and samsung replied that there are indeed 512MB.
Lol....So do we actually know if it has 512MB of RAM or not? As some others have stated it might help explain why the Sammy has lag issues and the Desire does not..
BTW, I dont own either at present and am just going by what I have read in these forums.
That diagram also doesn't list wireless N, does that mean our phones don't have wireless n???
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GSMarena pressed on the issue when the phone was released, and samsung replied that there are indeed 512MB.
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well..... using my onboard math processor I compuete that 384+128 = 512..
So samsung wouldnt have been lying if they had said there was 512.. even if 128 might be dedicated to the gpu or something else. 512+128 would have been nicer though.
I wonder if this diagram is accurate.
The picture is of ODROID-T which is a tablet style device for developers.
Its hardwares are quite similar to SGS but I don't think this block diagram should be showing exactly the same informations as SGS's.
Have a look at this site;
http://dev.odroid.com/wiki/odroid-t/
Well, the S5PC110 doesn't have the memory built in beforehand. It's changeable, the controller supports OneDRAM, LPDDR1 and LPDDR2. You can stick whatever you want in there.
Remember that only what's in the blue square is the actual SOC.
Kilack said:
well..... using my onboard math processor I compuete that 384+128 = 512..
So samsung wouldnt have been lying if they had said there was 512.. even if 128 might be dedicated to the gpu or something else. 512+128 would have been nicer though.
I wonder if this diagram is accurate.
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How does this differ from the HTC Desire setup? I know it has 576 MB RAM, but not sure how its split up...
Well, I checked before posting. Google for an official press release from Samsung Australia. Xda is not letting me post external links due to my low number of posts. However, I love my S. I'm just saying that this mem thing is starting to smell a little bit of i7500, from a customer relations' POV. Let's just hope we actually have a different design and that, as rumors say, new kernels will unlock all available ram.
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I also found a tear down analysis of Korean version galaxy s.
The author said it has "4Gb NAND+3Gb DDR+1Gb OneNand",which is incorrect.
Some comment below said it is OneDram actually.
If not for the OneDram,How can samsung declare 90M triangles/sec instead of powerVR's figure of 28M triangles/sec.
OneDram is more expensive than DDR.
I guess samsung does't say anything about RAM because it's a different structure,and hard to explain.
gosh i have been lurking on these forums to buy this phone
but with this memory issue it seems like the OMNIA II all over again
there the phone was advertisied with 512mb but only so little was left to the user!!
samsung samsng oh samsung!
Hi Guys
I recently got myself a NOTE 3 (Clone) from DHgate which was nice and cheap and arrived in decent time frame.
The listing said 1GB RAM
But when ever I do a test (Antutu/CPU-Z or anything else) it shows RAM at 461 - the seller is still claiming it is a 1GB RAM even after I sent him several screen shots?
I really need to know as I will claim back the difference in price if he (as I suspect) sent me a 512mb or less RAM
I do understand the ROM and a few APPS will take up some of the RAM but not like 400mb+ surely???
Thanks in advance guys:fingers-crossed:
My device take about 500-600 MB on RAM by just using the OS. With all my apps it about about 700 MB, so I do think that it might be 1GB memory on your device.
I would have thought that at least One of these tests would have shown how RAM has been used and therefore how much was left though?
All I can see is 461mb RAM with around 71mb used?
I have just tested again using "Android Assistant" app, and same results showing 461 system RAM?
In other words the tests are showing that the "System" RAM is 461mb Hence my utter confusion?
Phone is on 4.2.2 not sure if that info helps
Some of the RAM may be allocated to GPU.
Should have just gotten the real thing, you get what you pay for. I'd request my money back and find a real note 3.
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Tbh that's what you get for buying clones... you can never trust the specs they give you.
You best bet to verify it is totry uninstalling or freezing some system apps to see if the overall RAM increases.
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I actually used "Titanuim" to Freeze a sxxt load of apps, but the Ram didn't seem to get any higher after another Antutu check, or CPU-Z test?
It still says 461 free Ram and around 70 used?
Yet the seller is shouting about it being a 1GB Ram version
Its actually quick enough, but I want to be sure its a 1GB version?
And yeah I know I should have got a "real" NOTE3 but I dont have the cash hence the clone option
Essentially what I want is ANYTHING that can prove either way what Ram this device has as factory? as I said Antutu and other testers show 461 as I showed here on screen shots?
It may be impossible to say. Face it, you bought a piece of rubbish that could be anything and contains God knows what. You got what you paid for.
You get what you pay for.
yes, it is sad, but as all friends above say, you can only be certain if you get your devices at an authorized dealer or carrier, the only way to get the reañl stuff, then, any problem happens , there is always support for you, think about it
First time when I've ordered Moto X Play (XT1562) with 16 GB of internal storage, it did show 11 GB of available storage. However, due to display defect, I had to return it and get an replacement which has 10.89 GB of available storage.
I've received the replacement before sending the actual defective one. I've tried to check what's different, but I couldn't find anything else except for storage availability difference. Both were Lollipop 5.1.1 with identical kernel and firmware version (both were "reteu" and single SIM). As I didn't know about accessing recovery mode before returning the defective one, I don't know was there any difference in recovery information.
Performance seems to be identical, both were still causing identical lags. Even after upgrading to marshmallow with my current replacement, it's still stuttering while scrolling. It still doesn't feel fully optimized.
I didn't post this before as I thought that this wasn't a big deal, but I want to know what was the difference between storage availability. Does anyone have Moto X Play with 11 GB of available storage? I saw some people having 10.89 GB, but no one having 11 GB. Please check size of your available internal memory storage and give some details if possible. Along with that, vote if you have 16 GB model (If you have 32 GB, don't vote for other value).
What happened to 0.11 GB of storage? Is it anyhow possible to get it back?
Well, mine does have exactly 11GB. Dunno what's the actual reason.
I'd imagine it's the same as anything, all chips are made to a certain spec and not all are bang on. They have tolerances, some maybe 11 and others maybe 10.89 and some may even 11.10 or something. It's the same with CPUs, not all chips are identical I the same range. This is why we CPUs can be over clocked much further than another CPU that is the same model number.
If after a few days you don't see a noticeable performance difference, I'd suggest performing a factory reset. If it still persists, I would send the pone back. Mine went from noticeable lag to occasional stutter (fairly rare, just could be equated to background tasks running).
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Mine shows 11.
differences between regions? single, dual sim? just my guess
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I'd imagine it's the same as anything, all chips are made to a certain spec and not all are bang on. They have tolerances, some maybe 11 and others maybe 10.89 and some may even 11.10 or something. It's the same with CPUs, not all chips are identical I the same range. This is why we CPUs can be over clocked much further than another CPU that is the same model number.
If after a few days you don't see a noticeable performance difference, I'd suggest performing a factory reset. If it still persists, I would send the pone back. Mine went from noticeable lag to occasional stutter (fairly rare, just could be equated to background tasks running).
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It's not the same as CPUs.
If you have two same phone models with same CPUs with advertised clock speed at 1 GHz for example, and then you notice that they underclocked it at 800MHz on one phone due to possible instability with higher clock, wouldn't that be unfair?
You can't just sell something advertised with higher specifications and then sell it with lower specifications.
On contrary, if the manufacturer manages to get higher clock on some CPUs, they would sell those as different model with higher advertised clock speed. The example for that would be MSM7227 (600MHz) and MSM7227-1 Turbo (800MHz, same as MSM7227, but works with higher clocks). Some models only use the first one, while other ones use the second one. Two different phone models can have different CPUs, but two same phone models cannot.
It's still 11 and 10.89 GB. No one mentioned anything more or less yet.
You're suggesting something that I didn't ask for. I don't need help with my phone. I need help with finding out what is causing this and is there anything possible to do something with it.
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differences between regions? single, dual sim? just my guess
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I've already said there was no difference between both phones I had. Same region, both had only single sim slot.
Further note:
I've decided to check with file explorer to see actual partition sizes:
/data: 10.89 GB
/system: 2.57 GB
/cache: 0.73 GB
Total: ~14.19 GB
In case that others have 11 GB of /data, then that would be ~14.3 GB in total for them.
If you can, check /system and /cache partition sizes to see if you get in total about 14.3 GB.
Okay. I'm sorry to have responded and tried to help you out. If you think that I don't know what I'm talking about then I'd say you are obviously qualified to figure this out your self. I wasn't trying to be rude, just trying to explain that there are tolerances in ICs that are followed. They have gotten a lot better than when CPUs were first being built, I understand that. But there are still tolerances. I very rarely see two Memory ICs with the EXACT same storage size. There are sections of the disk used for error correction that we don't even see in the storage size.
If you are unhappy with my response, that's cool. I won't be responding anymore.
Take care.
Sent from my Moto X Play
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Okay. I'm sorry to have responded and tried to help you out. If you think that I don't know what I'm talking about then I'd say you are obviously qualified to figure this out your self. I wasn't trying to be rude, just trying to explain that there are tolerances in ICs that are followed. They have gotten a lot better than when CPUs were first being built, I understand that. But there are still tolerances. I very rarely see two Memory ICs with the EXACT same storage size. There are sections of the disk used for error correction that we don't even see in the storage size.
If you are unhappy with my response, that's cool. I won't be responding anymore.
Take care.
Sent from my Moto X Play
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You did make better answer now, though. I'm quite stubborn about some issues like this one. Thanks for further details about it.
So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
Download Device Info HW from the play.store and check the specs
Anything more than 6 gigs of RAM on an Android phone is nothing but a marketing gimmick. The vast majority of people don't need more than 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop--according to Microsoft the minimum RAM requirement to run Windows 10 is 1GB which is stretching it but 6GB is more than enough to provide an extremely smooth experience for anyone who isn't a power user. With that in mind what practical purpose could having 8GB or 12GB of RAM on an Android phone possibly serve?
The expanding RAM numbers were a gimmick to convince the gullible that they needed to purchase expensive new phones--these are the same kind of people who don't question why they need a higher resolution display on a phone with a 10" display than on a 55" television screen.
Now that more RAM and higher resolution are the norm the latest gimmick is smartphone displays with higher refresh rates. Most people won't actually be able to see any difference but that hardly matters if it sells phones.
seanteoh1999 said:
So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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So you already stated you have purchased a 1TB 12GB ram s10.. and you received an 8GB ram s10? Where did you buy it from? I would bring it back since it may be the wrong one or it may be fake depending where you purchased it from.
How much did you pay for the device?
seanteoh1999 said:
So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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It is possible the wrong product got delivered to you, If your order correctly states that your device should be a 12 GB variant, you need to do a RMA.
Just to be sure update your device, for checking your RAM, go to settings -> Device Care -> Memory. At the top it should list, there should a be a bar and just under it your used memory/total memory.
For checking storage, go to settings -> Device Care -> Storage. At the top it should list, there should a be a bar and just under it your used storage/total storage.
If either of these don't match your order, please check with the seller, you should only get what you paid for.
As for the screen flicker, it really shouldn't happen, on my device opening the camera app is a rather smooth animation.
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jhs39 said:
Anything more than 6 gigs of RAM on an Android phone is nothing but a marketing gimmick. The vast majority of people don't need more than 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop--according to Microsoft the minimum RAM requirement to run Windows 10 is 1GB which is stretching it but 6GB is more than enough to provide an extremely smooth experience for anyone who isn't a power user. With that in mind what practical purpose could having 8GB or 12GB of RAM on an Android phone possibly serve?
The expanding RAM numbers were a gimmick to convince the gullible that they needed to purchase expensive new phones--these are the same kind of people who don't question why they need a higher resolution display on a phone with a 10" display than on a 55" television screen.
Now that more RAM and higher resolution are the norm the latest gimmick is smartphone displays with higher refresh rates. Most people won't actually be able to see any difference but that hardly matters if it sells phones.
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Dude, what is your problem? OP asked for verifying the specs of his device and not a lecture on what is the appropirate amount of RAM according to you! Did you even read his question?
matt0323 said:
So you already stated you have purchased a 1TB 12GB ram s10.. and you received an 8GB ram s10? Where did you buy it from? I would bring it back since it may be the wrong one or it may be fake depending where you purchased it from.
How much did you pay for the device?
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Hi sir, I wasn't very clear , sorry.. i currently have 8.5 GB ram available with no apps opened and seller confirmed it was original although I am still afraid coz I bought it not from official shop. In us dollar it's about 800 usd but in my country it's Rm 3000.. I am not sure its suppose to have 12 GB of ram if I have no apps opened or is it normal to have 8.5 gb of ram bcoz it might eat some ram for the system to run so I opened this thread.
Android is designed to fill most of the RAM at all times. In simple terms, empty RAM is wasted RAM.
As you start using apps, Android will keep your most commonly used apps in RAM, so that they launch quickly each timeyou open them or switch between them.
seanteoh1999 said:
Hi sir, I wasn't very clear , sorry.. i currently have 8.5 GB ram available with no apps opened and seller confirmed it was original although I am still afraid coz I bought it not from official shop. In us dollar it's about 800 usd but in my country it's Rm 3000.. I am not sure its suppose to have 12 GB of ram if I have no apps opened or is it normal to have 8.5 gb of ram bcoz it might eat some ram for the system to run so I opened this thread.
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Well if you go to; Settings, Device Care, Memory. It tells you how much RAM you got..
matt0323 said:
Well if you go to; Settings, Device Care, Memory. It tells you how much RAM you got..
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oh.. yeah i got 12 gb.. Thx you very much