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Coming from Samsung and Sony where there was a big difference are all Roms basically the same base on the X Style. Are there differences that I should be aware of?
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I'd say the only reason to go cutom ROM on this phone would be customization. The stock ROM is pretty reliable, fast, and easy on the battery. Especially if you start tuning up the custom kernels how you like them.
Stock doesn't feel like it's dragging a frickin boat anchor or god awful at memory management like on a Samsung. This phone doesn't have an ugly, laggy vendor skin. With MM (and root) you can use RRO layers to theme it - no custom ROM required. I've run custom ROMs for years because...Samsung. I'm kind of tired of flaky bluetooth, FCs, and stuff that just doesn't quite work right but is better than Touchwiz.
The only thing I'd really like to have that custom ROMs make available would be double tap status bar to sleep, status bar brightness slider, and notification led; most everything else honestly goes in the stuff I don't use / forget about category (well...slim recents would be nice too). You could tackle most of that with XPosed too, but that brings its own baggage. I've tried out a few of the custom ROM offerings, and for now I keep going back to stock. They're good, but not good enough for me to give up that stock stability when stock is so close to pure AOSP. We have Multirom too, so that makes test driving multiple ROMs really easy.
As for AOSP vs. CM, I'm pretty sure all the custom ROMs you'll find here have a CM base. You can find Broken for this phone too, and it usually uses an AOSP-CAF base. I haven't actually checked Broken out yet.
jason2678 said:
I'd say the only reason to go cutom ROM on this phone would be customization. The stock ROM is pretty reliable, fast, and easy on the battery. Especially if you start tuning up the custom kernels how you like them.
Stock doesn't feel like it's dragging a frickin boat anchor or god awful at memory management like on a Samsung. This phone doesn't have an ugly, laggy vendor skin. With MM (and root) you can use RRO layers to theme it - no custom ROM required. I've run custom ROMs for years because...Samsung. I'm kind of tired of flaky bluetooth, FCs, and stuff that just doesn't quite work right but is better than Touchwiz.
The only thing I'd really like to have that custom ROMs make available would be double tap status bar to sleep, status bar brightness slider, and notification led; most everything else honestly goes in the stuff I don't use / forget about category (well...slim recents would be nice too). You could tackle most of that with XPosed too, but that brings its own baggage. I've tried out a few of the custom ROM offerings, and for now I keep going back to stock. They're good, but not good enough for me to give up that stock stability when stock is so close to pure AOSP. We have Multirom too, so that makes test driving multiple ROMs really easy.
As for AOSP vs. CM, I'm pretty sure all the custom ROMs you'll find here have a CM base. You can find Broken for this phone too, and it usually uses an AOSP-CAF base. I haven't actually checked Broken out yet.
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Thanks for the reply... I think I'm more concerned about flashing the wrong kernel.
For example I'm used to say flashing a Stock kernel on my Z2 Sony ROM, I could opt for CM Rom and know I need CM kernel. This difference seem so much more blurred here on the Moto X Style.
Also for example we have BlissPure, PureBliss, FrakenClark and Stock optimised [@VadimTk] there doesn't seem to be an easy way of knowing which ROMs they can be flashed on.
I'm new to Moto's so learning fast!
Frankenclark and vadim's are stock.
Bliss is for cm base.
The frankenclark dev dirtyhank has been bringing some great features lately, and hashbang has been picking them up and baking them into his aicp builds too.
jason2678 said:
I'd say the only reason to go cutom ROM on this phone would be customization. The stock ROM is pretty reliable, fast, and easy on the battery. Especially if you start tuning up the custom kernels how you like them.
Stock doesn't feel like it's dragging a frickin boat anchor or god awful at memory management like on a Samsung. This phone doesn't have an ugly, laggy vendor skin. With MM (and root) you can use RRO layers to theme it - no custom ROM required. I've run custom ROMs for years because...Samsung. I'm kind of tired of flaky bluetooth, FCs, and stuff that just doesn't quite work right but is better than Touchwiz.
The only thing I'd really like to have that custom ROMs make available would be double tap status bar to sleep, status bar brightness slider, and notification led; most everything else honestly goes in the stuff I don't use / forget about category (well...slim recents would be nice too). You could tackle most of that with XPosed too, but that brings its own baggage. I've tried out a few of the custom ROM offerings, and for now I keep going back to stock. They're good, but not good enough for me to give up that stock stability when stock is so close to pure AOSP. We have Multirom too, so that makes test driving multiple ROMs really easy.
As for AOSP vs. CM, I'm pretty sure all the custom ROMs you'll find here have a CM base. You can find Broken for this phone too, and it usually uses an AOSP-CAF base. I haven't actually checked Broken out yet.
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Quick note. Nova Prime launcher offers double tap to sleep. Definitely recommend it.
Ditamae said:
Quick note. Nova Prime launcher offers double tap to sleep. Definitely recommend it.
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I've tried that with Nova, but you have to double tap blank space on a screen, not an app or widget. I actually have swipe up mapped to screen off with Nova because that seems to work anywhere. I agree it's a pretty good substitute.
I think I could get everything I want/need with stock and xposed. I'll maybe root this weekend and see how I on with rooted stock mm...
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Coming from Samsung to Motorola my only complaint really about stock is missing features that I just wouldn't expect to be missing. The two that stick out most for me is the lack of a number row on the stock keyboard and a lack of an interface for a clipboard for copy and paste. Obviously a lot of these things can be supplemented with apps and mods but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a stock experience.
Edit: Oh and no option for battery percent in the status bar but I found a trick to enable that without any modifications.
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Coming from Samsung to Motorola my only complaint really about stock is missing features that I just wouldn't expect to be missing. The two that stick out most for me is the lack of a number row on the stock keyboard and a lack of an interface for a clipboard for copy and paste. Obviously a lot of these things can be supplemented with apps and mods but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a stock experience.
Edit: Oh and no option for battery percent in the status bar but I found a trick to enable that without any modifications.
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Yeah I found the battery % trick/app early....
Data/network indicators, centre clock. I use google KB, so have the numbers.
Not sure what you mean by no copy/paste clipboard?
Agent. said:
Coming from Samsung to Motorola my only complaint really about stock is missing features that I just wouldn't expect to be missing. The two that stick out most for me is the lack of a number row on the stock keyboard and a lack of an interface for a clipboard for copy and paste. Obviously a lot of these things can be supplemented with apps and mods but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a stock experience.
Edit: Oh and no option for battery percent in the status bar but I found a trick to enable that without any modifications.
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rowlers said:
Yeah I found the battery % trick/app early....
Data/network indicators, centre clock. I use google KB, so have the numbers.
Not sure what you mean by no copy/paste clipboard?
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Y'all two care to share your little trick? I haven't come across center clock on Moto Stock without using Xposed.
cerobles1 said:
Y'all two care to share your little trick? I haven't come across center clock on Moto Stock without using Xposed.
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Sorry, xposed IS needed for centre clock AFAIK...
I personally hate CM. Ever since my first Android phone I've always avoided it. I tried BlissROM and wasn't happy with it. I haven't used an AOSP ROM for any phone since my MyTouch4G. The ROM I'm currently using is TruePureX, and it's been going great. It's stock, but without bloat and a few added features. Then I add Xposed and GravityBox and it's perfect.
rowlers said:
Yeah I found the battery % trick/app early....
Data/network indicators, centre clock. I use google KB, so have the numbers.
Not sure what you mean by no copy/paste clipboard?
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On my Samsung Galaxy S5 there was a clipboard where I could manage previously cut and copied content, not just the last item.
cerobles1 said:
Y'all two care to share your little trick? I haven't come across center clock on Moto Stock without using Xposed.
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The trick allows you to enable the battery percentage as well as a few other things and can be found here.
I sorely miss SlimRecents (Marshmallow version) and was so happy to see that Omnirecents has changed to a horizontal sidebar view now for nougat, but the downside is that it's been laggy on Dirty Unicorns and now with Screw'd Android Nougat ROMs. Even on a fresh install. Screw'd ANdroid has Slimrecents for Nougat but it no longer works the way it did on Marshmallow where it would always keep the foreground app in view and pressing hte recents button will just show and hide the recents list. Now on Nougat, it cycles between the foreground and previous app
Omnirecents seems to have a litle lag from pressing the recents button, to the background drawing first, then the windows showing up. Granted it's faster than the stock recents behavior, but it's no where near as fast as SlimRecents (marshmallow).
Here's how laggy Omnirecents is on my Nexus 6P, is it the same for everyone else?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJx9TIKCBFQ
Last time I used it with aicp rom + franco kernel and it was quick, not laggy. Your video shows a grey bar before it clearly appears, that looks a bit strange, do you use any theme???
Even without a theme it has the same lag to it. I've set the background to no transparency and its the same thing.
curious if it's laggy or quick for others?
is that gray bar not supposed to be there? I'm using AICP now (since it's the only nougat ROM that has Slimrecents working correctly), and I tried Omnirecents, but it's still laggy like in the video :/
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curious if it's laggy or quick for others?
is that gray bar not supposed to be there? I'm using AICP now (since it's the only nougat ROM that has Slimrecents working correctly), and I tried Omnirecents, but it's still laggy like in the video :/
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May you flash Omni rom from Android original development, it's a nice and fast rom, even more if you use the Omni launcher. Good and not overbloated features and with oms support, if the recents are still laggy for you on this rom, it's your phone. Then may you should think about wiping your complete phone and do a complete new setup by flashing factory image.
it looks like its laggy the way it is. omnirom devs on google+ said there's nothing wrong with it. and checking this video: https://youtu.be/LVNowZ1beQ8?t=169 shows that it still has the same lag.
here's how quick slimrecents is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xltWTcR8hS4 but unfortunately slimrecents isn't implemented correctly on AOSP ROMs.
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it looks like its laggy the way it is. omnirom devs on google+ said there's nothing wrong with it. and checking this video: https://youtu.be/LVNowZ1beQ8?t=169 shows that it still has the same lag.
here's how quick slimrecents is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xltWTcR8hS4 but unfortunately slimrecents isn't implemented correctly on AOSP ROMs.
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Not even on slimrom ? Did you flashed it ?
coremania said:
Not even on slimrom ? Did you flashed it ?
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it works correctly on slimroms. but I would like to have more features than what Slimrom offers at this point. I've posted about how slimrecents isn't working correclty on a few of the rom dev's google+ pages and started a thread here on xda, but no one seems to care lol. guess i'll stick wtih AICP which works fine or find a way to tolerate the laggy omnirecents if i ever go to an AOSP ROM.
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it works correctly on slimroms. but I would like to have more features than what Slimrom offers at this point. I've posted about how slimrecents isn't working correclty on a few of the rom dev's google+ pages and started a thread here on xda, but no one seems to care lol. guess i'll stick wtih AICP which works fine or find a way to tolerate the laggy omnirecents if i ever go to an AOSP ROM.
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May with some time it gets better, last thing you could try is tipsy os, it's based on slim if I remember right. Cheers
tracerit said:
curious if it's laggy or quick for others?
is that gray bar not supposed to be there? I'm using AICP now (since it's the only nougat ROM that has Slimrecents working correctly), and I tried Omnirecents, but it's still laggy like in the video :/
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ABC Rom has it. ?
As for Omniswitch, yeah. It's nowhere near as good as Slim Recents, but it definitely lags a lot over time.
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Curiousn00b said:
ABC Rom has it.
As for Omniswitch, yeah. It's nowhere near as good as Slim Recents, but it definitely lags a lot over time.
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ABC ROM also isnt' working as intended.
So, I'm currently thinking on switching from stock to a custom ROM, and this is one of the biggest questions for me right now.
I have got used to the fingerprint navigation gestures and I think they're great, so I would like to know if you people know of a ROM that has this feature or if there is at least an app that can replicate them in the exact same way.
Thanks in advance.
PS: I'm also looking for suggestions of which ROM to switch to, I'm just looking for something stable enough, with great features, but closest to stock as possible. All suggestions except Lineage OS are welcome. Thanks again.
jahirfiquitiva said:
So, I'm currently thinking on switching from stock to a custom ROM, and this is one of the biggest questions for me right now.
I have got used to the fingerprint navigation gestures and I think they're great, so I would like to know if you people know of a ROM that has this feature or if there is at least an app that can replicate them in the exact same way.
Thanks in advance.
PS: I'm also looking for suggestions of which ROM to switch to, I'm just looking for something stable enough, with great features, but closest to stock as possible. All suggestions except Lineage OS are welcome. Thanks again.
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Switch to AOKP ROM. It has that FP Gesture. And Everyother rom has that feature.
Shardul_LEO said:
Switch to AOKP ROM. It has that FP Gesture. And Everyother rom has that feature.
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So you're saying all roms have the feature, but AOKP is the best (or the suggestion you would give to me) ?
What are the things you think are better on AOKP than on Stock, or how would you compare them?
Btw, would you mind uploading or sharing some pictures of AOKP? Like settings, SystemUI tuner, demo mode, additional settings for the rom, notifications panel, etc... ??
I checked the rom thread but the pictures there are basically useless for me. Thanks in advance.
jahirfiquitiva said:
So, I'm currently thinking on switching from stock to a custom ROM, and this is one of the biggest questions for me right now.
I have got used to the fingerprint navigation gestures and I think they're great, so I would like to know if you people know of a ROM that has this feature or if there is at least an app that can replicate them in the exact same way.
Thanks in advance.
PS: I'm also looking for suggestions of which ROM to switch to, I'm just looking for something stable enough, with great features, but closest to stock as possible. All suggestions except Lineage OS are welcome. Thanks again.
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Lineage OS is great, it has fingerprint gestures, Motorola actions (twist, chop etc.) and plenty of other features to enhance your G5 P.
Shardul_LEO said:
Switch to AOKP ROM. It has that FP Gesture. And Everyother rom has that feature.
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I decided to give it a try. It has some inconsistencies and their configuration app looks really bad. I went with AOSPExtended, and currently loving it.
Azimuth0r said:
Lineage OS is great, it has fingerprint gestures, Motorola actions (twist, chop etc.) and plenty of other features to enhance your G5 P.
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Lineage OS has inconsistent colors in settings, I have requested them to fix it too many times, and they just ignore the issue when all they have to do is change a line of code. I'm not ever going to use Lineage OS again.
Try Validus Rom
Hey guys, the one thing I liked about the stock ROM was that I could make the screen really dark and really bright. It's much more limited on the AOSP ROMs I've tried. Is there any ROM that gives me more control over brightness?
its the way they designed android pie which is stupid af. also tested it on my friends android one device its the same as the custom roms on lavender.
aron11195 said:
its the way they designed android pie which is stupid af. also tested it on my friends android one device its the same as the custom roms on lavender.
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Wait, but stock Xiaomi ROM for this device is also Pie!
Lauriso said:
Wait, but stock Xiaomi ROM for this device is also Pie!
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yup but its a heavily skinned pie. just like any other oem os. most custom rom devs prefer closer stock android experience.
Lauriso said:
Wait, but stock Xiaomi ROM for this device is also Pie!
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Yeah, but Xiaomi actually fixes the bull**** google does to Android, that's why it takes longer for us to get android updates.
aron11195 said:
yup but its a heavily skinned pie. just like any other oem os. most custom rom devs prefer closer stock android experience.
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But brightness levels have nothing to do with skinning, no? If Xiaomi could change it, so could any other dev maybe?
My other two gripes with MIUI are the stupid notification behaviour and lack of colored music notifications + album art as background (yes that's important!) ?.
is there a fix?
Lauriso said:
But brightness levels have nothing to do with skinning, no? If Xiaomi could change it, so could any other dev maybe?
My other two gripes with MIUI are the stupid notification behaviour and lack of colored music notifications + album art as background (yes that's important!) .
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I feel the album art as background too, but i prefer to stay on MIUI for better stability overall, plus i got really used to the MIUI skin so i don't feel like changing.
Gonime said:
I feel the album art as background too, but i prefer to stay on MIUI for better stability overall, plus i got really used to the MIUI skin so i don't feel like changing.
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But how about notification behavior? I totally hated that because I want all my unread notifs to always stay in the notif bar + lockscreen.
Also, what is the best place to suggest / discuss implementing changes to MIUI? The official forums seem either dead or I get generic replies and little views.
Lauriso said:
Also, what is the best place to suggest / discuss implementing changes to MIUI? The official forums seem either dead or I get generic replies and little views.
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I believe you'd have to enter the closed beta program to do that, the inscription is not always open though, you'd have to check mi community for more info.
Thanks.
While we're talking - does anyone else have the issue where 4G doesn't reconnect after calls? Sometimes it does after a longer while, but it's much quicker to enable/disable airplane more to get it to reconnect. I actually remember having a similar issue while on the stock ROM too.
I know there are roms with this feature, but the ones I've tried (HAVOC-OS, SkyDragon, and I think OmniRom) have this feature, but it's the lag that drives me crazy.
I'm looking for a rom that has this buttery smooth gestures feature.
Lag with the gestures? Most of the roms out there are using the same gesture-system, I hope that answers your question.
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I know there are roms with this feature, but the ones I've tried (HAVOC-OS, SkyDragon, and I think OmniRom) have this feature, but it's the lag that drives me crazy.
I'm looking for a rom that has this buttery smooth gestures feature.
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You're talking about the fact that they don't have a live floating app window that pulls away from the edges of the screen with your finger.... Yeah honestly you're not going to find that on any custom ROM, not Pie anyhow, however I will tell you Android 10 gets damn close. Maybe give LOS 17 a shot, problem is it's brand new so not everything is going to work 100%.
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You're talking about the fact that they don't have a live floating app window that pulls away from the edges of the screen with your finger.... Yeah honestly you're not going to find that on any custom ROM, not Pie anyhow, however I will tell you Android 10 gets damn close. Maybe give LOS 17 a shot, problem is it's brand new so not everything is going to work 100%.
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the window isn't fluid when pulling up from the bottom of the screen. Thanks, I'll give it a go.