B387 update - Adds Monochrome mode in Camera - Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi Guys,
I just got a new update (Chinese version) : B387
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Here are the new modes they have added : Watermark and Monochrome :
Here is a quick test I've made :
The one in the middle is the "ND" filter mode, and the one on the right is the new Monochrome mode.
It's not super obvious, but I just found out that the ISO is often smaller with the Monochrome mode.
Another thing, in the Photo or Pro Photo mode, if I cover the right lens with my finger, it just says "lenses must not be covered..." but my screen is not covered and I can still take the picture.
In Monochrome mode, if I cover the right lens, I can see my finger.
Is it finally the real monochrome mode like the Huawei P9 ?

supamike said:
Hi Guys,
I just got a new update (Chinese version) : B387
Here are the new modes they have added : Watermark and Monochrome :
Here is a quick test I've made :
The one in the middle is the "ND" filter mode, and the one on the right is the new Monochrome mode.
It's not super obvious, but I just found out that the ISO is often smaller with the Monochrome mode.
Another thing, in the Photo or Pro Photo mode, if I cover the right lens with my finger, it just says "lenses must not be covered..." but my screen is not covered and I can still take the picture.
In Monochrome mode, if I cover the right lens, I can see my finger.
Is it finally the real monochrome mode like the Huawei P9 ?
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I think so! Finally we can take pictures with the secondary lens :laugh:
However, I'd really like to have your opinion about battery life the update says "optimizes power consumption for extended use", so I hope there are some changes. I've had enough with the "Android System" sucking up +20% of my battery juice.

takichiman said:
I think so! Finally we can take pictures with the secondary lens :laugh:
However, I'd really like to have your opinion about battery life the update says "optimizes power consumption for extended use", so I hope there are some changes. I've had enough with the "Android System" sucking up +20% of my battery juice.
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I can't say much about the battery life yet, I just got the update 3 hours ago. I will see after a couple of days.
And about this Monochrome mode, there is no settings, it's just like the auto mode. We can't change the ISO or whatever.

Can you extract the camera apk in order to share the new version with monocrome shot?

MarioCA97 said:
Can you extract the camera apk in order to share the new version with monocrome shot?
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My phone is not rooted so I don't think I am able to do that.

supamike said:
My phone is not rooted so I don't think I am able to do that.
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It's not a problem. Just download root browser from play store. It is still working on emui 5.

fred98 said:
It's not a problem. Just download root browser from play store. It is still working on emui 5.
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Awesome, thank you
Here it is : https://filetrip.net/dl?WXUMqYBYoW

Thanks, downloaded but it would not install on my phone.

supamike said:
Awesome, thank you
Here it is : https://filetrip.net/dl?WXUMqYBYoW
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Can you include a few other files as well? Everything in these directories:
- /system/priv-app/HWCamera2/
- /system/cameraplugins/
- /system/etc/camera/
- /system/etc/media_profiles.xml
I don't know which of those (if any) would require root access, so if you can pull them all and upload them it would be a big help since we don't know yet what all drives monochrome mode.

Telperion said:
Can you include a few other files as well? Everything in these directories:
- /system/priv-app/HWCamera2/
- /system/cameraplugins/
- /system/etc/camera/
- /system/etc/media_profiles.xml
I don't know which of those (if any) would require root access, so if you can pull them all and upload them it would be a big help since we don't know yet what all drives monochrome mode.
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Here it is : https://filetrip.net/dl?pog4rWn2NN

supamike said:
Here it is : https://filetrip.net/dl?pog4rWn2NN
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Awesome, thank you! I'll be making a Magisk module out of this to test it.

supamike said:
Here it is : https://filetrip.net/dl?pog4rWn2NN
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It appears that your ROM is odexed. If you're up for it, you can generated a deodexed version of the APK here (would make the camera usable for others):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tooll-03-12-fulmics-deodexer-1-0-t3512081

In FF it only shows me B386 Firmware avaible, not only with my specific region but also if i show all regions updates. So...how you got it

Giuskiller said:
In FF it only shows me B386 Firmware avaible, not only with my specific region but also if i show all regions updates. So...how you got it
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It's only available for the chinese versions : http://cn.ui.vmall.com/thread-12831775-1-1.html

supamike said:
It's only available for the chinese versions : http://cn.ui.vmall.com/thread-12831775-1-1.html
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Need your help
I need some files from the FRD-AL00 version that you have

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HTC TyTN with geotags in Camera working

Hello,
I've made some experiments and I've finally found a way to have an external GPS giving the coordinates to the HTC Camera software (geotags).
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I will try to make an how-to if anyone is interested, but since I had to use HTC Camera 4.02 build 26156 and I've lost the possibility to use the flash - anyone knows more builds of HTC Camera software so I can try them?
Thanks
Very intersting go on and let us know.
Cab available?
Try this, I hope it can help you.
Thanks for the input, unfortunately I get an error of "not enough available storage" with that version, so I can't run it.
Here goes the changed CAB, please make sure other applications can see the GPS as an internal one so that the camera can see it too. This version also supports the front camera, but it will only work reasonable at lower resolutions
Your feedback is welcome.
Instructions and print-screens available on my blog, although the blog is in portuguese, the Pocket PC is in english, so the images can be used as a guide to the settings:
http://mobilecoiso.blogspot.com/2007/10/htc-tytn-com-suporte-gps-activo-na.html
It worked well. Thank you
BTW Do you know how it can be used with Google Maps Mobile?
agcolella said:
It worked well. Thank you
BTW Do you know how it can be used with Google Maps Mobile?
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Under track location settings, it should work with "Set by Windows" but if it does not work, set it manually to the port COM5 and 9600 if you've followed all the instructions on my site to setup the internal GPS.
Thanks guys this isnt too bad, the colours are a little dark though in this version not sure if thats my imate hardware.
ive turned them all up but still looks a little on the dark side. i love the new options thought like the 6 step panoramas ... Very nice!!!.
will try the GPS out when i get home later.
just one thing with the GPS area i get this stupid error when it cant find a GPS, the error doesnt seem to go away and most of the other buttons wont work. any ideas on a quick fix for that?
Yes, I confirm that bug, it only occurs if you do not have the GPS connected, the work around is to press the red key (the one to refuse calls) and you can then use the tak manager to close the process. I may change the timeout to a shorter time, maybe it works better...
It works, go for the next step ;-)
It works, very nice, just plug&play simplicity. Good work.
But now what? After bringing the photo to my desktop, very deep in Adobe Photoshop i found the EXIF info with gps coordinates and timestamp. Exactly as you said, no problem.
Is there already functionality around that picks up this data? Suppose one could upload a photo with gps-info to something like google-mobile-maps and the photo get's mapped on the map as a poi or so?
i preaty sure flickr uses it.
xdaradar: you can use those photos on Picasa, or for instance on panoramio.com or locr.com - there are a lot of services where you can use geotags.
BullGates said:
xdaradar: you can use those photos on Picasa, or for instance on panoramio.com or locr.com - there are a lot of services where you can use geotags.
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Thx Bull, panoramio works and so do your tags. Google earth detects the exif data correctly!
PIE has limitied functionality, it doesn't work correctly in the panoramio site when trying to upload files. Don't get the button to select photo's to upload.
Do you use this and how do you get the photo's uploaded mobile via your pda?
Thanks for the hard work This will be really cool.
great work! any luck on getting this to work while retaining the flash capability yet? thanks again.
awesome find
hi,
is it possible to uninstall this version and go back to original camera software ?
better, would it be possible to use 2 of them together ?
btw, there is a software named "locr GPS Photo" at locr.com.
does it have any disadvantages ?
thanks.
mrmrmrmr said:
hi,
is it possible to uninstall this version and go back to original camera software ?
better, would it be possible to use 2 of them together ?
btw, there is a software named "locr GPS Photo" at locr.com.
does it have any disadvantages ?
thanks.
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any idea ?
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any idea ?
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Yes you can uninstall, but it's always recommended to have backups. I've already mentioned locr on this thread, it's a nice program too.
thanks. what about possibility of having both the original camera app and the version which adds gps data at the same time ?
BullGates said:
Yes you can uninstall, but it's always recommended to have backups. I've already mentioned locr on this thread, it's a nice program too.
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Totally incredible work dude!
I think this is one of the first app which make it possible to use the build in front camera However when I make a picture with the front camera it looks very broken.. Maybe you can fix that? I uploaded a newer version of the camera app for you. Maybe it helps.

Show us your homescreens!!!

Well plenty people on this forum now have the DHDs, so go ahead and post your homescreens.
A good OP always goes first, but i haven't received my hunk of technology yet.
Instructions for noobs:
Step 1: Enable USB Debugging
On your Desire HD, go to Settings, then Applications, and then Development. Check the checkbox for "USB debugging."
Step 2: Download the Android SDK
There's plenty of tutorials out there so i won't go into detail explaining here, but this should get you started
Download: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Install: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
Note: you'll need to have Java installed on your machine.
Step 3: Run DDMS
You'll need to find the SDK folder which you downloaded. From here go into tools and launch DDMS. Select your handset from the menu on the left. Then, click CTRL-S on your keyboard. This will bring up the "Device Screen Capture" interface. From here, a static image is captured from what is appearing on your handset. You can save the image and then refresh to your heart's content to grab updated or different screenshots from your phone.
And that's it folks! What you waiting for? Gogogogo!!!
Why not use "ShootMe" ???
or that lol.
that app is new to me.
M_T_M said:
Why not use "ShootMe" ???
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Ha Ha I was thinking that !!!!
Because normally you need to get the picture to PC anyway (at least i do, that means DDMS is the more comfortable solution anyway).
faugusztin said:
Because normally you need to get the picture to PC anyway (at least i do, that means DDMS is the more comfortable solution anyway).
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Maybe for a handful of members
The every day Newbie will have many issues and questions about this procedure than anyone or any thread (and I do smell a new thread coming out of this one already ) can answer
Cheers,
M_T_M
Your friendly Mod
It depends what is easier, downloading the SDK and take a picture via DDMS, or rooting the phone and taking the picture via PicMe/ShootMe/whatever app .
at the end of the day it doesnt matter which method you use, as long as we get some pics in this thread
The easiest method of taking snaps of your homescreens (and the phone in general) I've found so far is by installing Webkey (requires root. Works with the VISIONary soft root app (found in Market)). What the app basically does is that it allows you to control your phone through a browser (lets you send SMS and I've actually successfully played a game on it). If you activate .png view the quality is very decent and you can just right click the image and save the image directly to your desktop. Quick, easy and painless.
Not to waste this post. Here're the homescreens of my old phone (made with Webkey):
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Den siste skjermen er blank frem til jeg finner på noe å ha der
Lockscreen:
LtdEdFred said:
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What app you use for the remember widget??
Thats the widget from Ultra Notes
Here is my homescreen.
Pretty basic here.
dobbeltseng said:
Here is my homescreen.
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Cool background,but i would have opted for the square menu
Here is mine, with the rEVOlution skin:
muzens said:
Here is mine, with the rEVOlution skin:
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Noctua NH-D14 Good choice of cooler ,
here are mine using the LWP to access my gallery WP collection, so that it changes after each standby
with different WPs
Thyrus said:
here are mine using the LWP to access my gallery WP collection, so that it changes after each standby
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Wow
1) do you have the tel. number of the girl in the hot-tub
2) please share the wallpapers of the last 3 screenshots. They are great!
noobdeagle said:
Noctua NH-D14 Good choice of cooler ,
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Lol, yes it does really well
appelflap said:
Wow
1) do you have the tel. number of the girl in the hot-tub
2) please share the wallpapers of the last 3 screenshots. They are great!
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if you are pretty switched on, you can extract them from my wp collection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773239

New firmware 23.4.A.1.236 is rolling out [UPDATE: Still vulnerable to stagefright]

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I've made pre-rooted Vodafone NL (4G icon) Vodafone UK (LTE icon) ROMs, they can be found here in post#3 FTF files also available!
Good luck debloating the s**t out of them creating custom ROMs :fingers-crossed:
waiting for info and changelog if possible
janolucero said:
waiting for info and changelog if possible
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I'm on it, created a pre-rooted ROM for testing/checking.
In a few hours I have time to test it myself
Only Vodafone CDA's were updated... and the update itself is only incremental.
Unless CE1 is updated too and there is no serious changelog, there is no need to excite and update the phone. It's my opinion
romcio47 said:
Only Vodafone CDA's were updated... and the update itself is only incremental.
Unless CE1 is updated too and there is no serious changelog, there is no need to excite and update the phone. It's my opinion
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True... I just did a lot of (vodafone) debloating to get a "clean" ROM and don't see any changes...
Someone can tell me if the contact picture bug has been solved?
MaybeTheWorst said:
Someone can tell me if the contact picture bug has been solved?
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What contact picture bug ?
Every picture (not every actually) is showed in a little circle on the left corner of the screen during a call... it wasn't like this 2 updates ago, it's a minor bug I know but I liked when it was fullscreen
MaybeTheWorst said:
Every picture (not every actually) is showed in a little circle on the left corner of the screen during a call... it wasn't like this 2 updates ago, it's a minor bug I know but I liked when it was fullscreen
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Well first every picture is showed in a little circle, but (seconds) later it wil show "fullscreen"... Maybe it has something to do with the full (quality) pictures having to be cached before they are shown?
is the brightness bug finally fixed? it is still present in .232.
starter15 said:
is the brightness bug finally fixed? it is still present in .232.
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Still a bit present.
MaybeTheWorst said:
Every picture (not every actually) is showed in a little circle on the left corner of the screen during a call... it wasn't like this 2 updates ago, it's a minor bug I know but I liked when it was fullscreen
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It's not a bug.
Low-res pictures are shown as small circles... I assume Sony did that so these pictures doesn't look ugly.
I also liked the previous function but I had to get used to these circles or... update the photos as hi-res pictures are shown correctly
I know how it works with low res pictures and high res pictures, I'm saying that even the high res pictures after a while (maybe after some reboot) turnout into low res pictures... it wasn't like this 2 updates ago, now for me doesn't work, if I downgrade... everything works fine.
IMHO is a minor bug
romcio47 said:
It's not a bug.
Low-res pictures are shown as small circles... I assume Sony did that so these pictures doesn't look ugly.
I also liked the previous function but I had to get used to these circles or... update the photos as hi-res pictures are shown correctly
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Hm how to get high resolution pictures for my phone contacts?
MaybeTheWorst said:
I know how it works with low res pictures and high res pictures, I'm saying that even the high res pictures after a while (maybe after some reboot) turnout into low res pictures... it wasn't like this 2 updates ago, now for me doesn't work, if I downgrade... everything works fine.
IMHO is a minor bug
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Oh, ok... that's clear for me now! So you are right, that IS a minor bug. Unfortunately I don't have such problem, every contact picture is showed as it should, there are no "self-conversions" from fullscreen to small circle, and also I have no little circles as I already updated every contact with proper picture. The circles I had were only a result of crappy facebook pictures importing.
Whitefoxy said:
Hm how to get high resolution pictures for my phone contacts?
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Get a hi-res photo of your the person you want to edit a contact of (that's pretty obvious ), enter the edit mode and just add a photo to that contact by tapping that small square-ish thing on the top left.
Sent from my badass Xperia Z3 Compact!
Chris.nl said:
Still a bit present.
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I'm pretty sure the bug is fixed, it hasn't happened to me once after the update. Maybe I'm not noticing it? Before it was very noticeable, anyone would have noticed it, after the 232 update it was completely fixed imo.
Yeah agreeing. Haven't noticed it since the 232 OTA
starter15 said:
is the brightness bug finally fixed? it is still present in .232.
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Excuse me, what's that problem?? The only one problem I got with brightness is that screen will suddenly bighter then go to dim (before 5 seconds of sleep timer).
that's exactly it.
still no changelog at all?

Working Gcam for Exynos Note 9!!!

Hi!
This is version 5.1.018.177470874.41362666_N6_2.5_test.apk (the last working one) of Gcam that fully working on Exynos Samsung Galaxy Note 9!!!
Just install & enjoy
If you have installed previous version of Gcam:
1.Unistall
2.Clean Storage/cache from Device maintenance settings
3.Reboot
4.Install .apk
5.From Settings-Apps-Gcam-Storage Clear cache and Clear data
6.Reboot
7.Start Gcam & enjoy
Big thanks to @IDan1109 for its hard work!!!Its project is for Exynos Galaxy S9/S9+,but the app fully working on Exynos Galaxy Note 9
Download:
https://mega.nz/#!CLx12RjZ!GuEBWZWe4yLYtB4rm0eQ3xIHGm9pcLSdCSG0Wf1Zo1g
This is version 5.1.018.177470874.41362666_N6_2.5_test.apk (the last working one) of Gcam that fully working on Exynos Samsung Galaxy Note 9!!!
Is this real?
HDR+, Portrait Mode working and actually looking great?
Yes,HDR+,HDR+ enhanced and Portrait mode is fully working in this version
Enjoy
rar file corrupted !!!!!
yaacob said:
rar file corrupted !!!!!
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What? Didn't have this problem. U need to open it with rar app
Nothing in rar file,please resend,thanks
Just join their telegram group you'd get the apk.
Only back. Portrait is working
It's 85% working, not fully working.
Installed fine on my note 9, will test it out later when I go for a walk.
Link not working, please provide alternate link.
TheUndertaker21 said:
Just join their telegram group you'd get the apk.
Only back. Portrait is working
It's 85% working, not fully working.
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i confirm
everything is working except front portrait ....
Hi! Thank you for this. Can you post some of the recommended settings, if any?
So how does this compare to the default Samsung Camera? Because I find that to be quite smart and awesome especially with the intelligent recognition of scenes...
Doesn't work for me. Whenever I enable HDR+ images will fail to process. The shutter button becomes unresponsive and images do not save.
Hmm, thanks. However, the test shots I have just made aren't as detailed as on the S-camera, is there a setting set that needs to be done? Any tips?
front portrait still not working perfectly
rockbastard said:
Hmm, thanks. However, the test shots I have just made aren't as detailed as on the S-camera, is there a setting set that needs to be done? Any tips?
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I think only S Camera takes such sharp images, GCam does not
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front portrait still not working perfectly
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No one has managed to get it to work on s9 so i guess we will have to wait a little bit
The Samsung cam's pictures are over-sharpened. Looks bad at 1:1.
Gcam is much better in that regard.
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So how does this compare to the default Samsung Camera? Because I find that to be quite smart and awesome especially with the intelligent recognition of scenes...
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the quality of Gcam is terrible, unless if you're taking a bright scene under the sun, the pictures taken by Gcam just couldn't compare to the sharpness and quality of samsung stock camera. I've just uninstalled it prior of replying this.
Portrait Mode not working
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Are there viruses in the file?

Activate additional settings hidden in miui camera

The experimental hidden functions of the camera of any Xiaomi are activated super easy. The tutorial enters where all the system folders are located, then they search for the one that says
DCIM ...
CAMERA
AND GIVE YOU THE CREATE NAME FILES
lab_options_visible
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and then open your camera settings and they get all the ones that have the model they have there shows them the system which were added.
androidlab99 said:
The experimental hidden functions of the camera of any Xiaomi are activated super easy. The tutorial enters where all the system folders are located, then they search for the one that says
DCIM ...
CAMERA
AND GIVE YOU THE CREATE NAME FILES
lab_options_visible
and then open your camera settings and they get all the ones that have the model they have there shows them the system which were added.
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And did You came to conclusion what is the purpose of this unactivated and still untranslated option in Chinese language?
EDIT
I have found by myself and if I'm correct it means "Extended touch-to-focus timeout".
Strange that they didn't translate this option!
To those who like me had to read OP twice to understand:
Just open DCIM/Camera (DCIM located in internal storage where Download folder is) and create empty file lab_options_visible in Camera folder.
Thanks it was interesting
g_seva said:
To those who like me had to read OP twice to understand:
Just open DCIM/Camera (DCIM located in internal storage where Download folder is) and create empty file lab_options_visible in Camera folder.
Thanks it was interesting
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Sorry, I didn't mentioned this because I believe that something like this is self explanatory, but yes, You are right, this is correct procedure to enter in this mode.
To me most interesting option is when camera app can use two CPU cores so I have been activated this option and we will see overall impact during some time.
Jehonan said:
Sorry, I didn't mentioned this because I believe that something like this is self explanatory, but yes, You are right, this is correct procedure to enter in this mode.
To me most interesting option is when camera app can use two CPU cores so I have been activated this option and we will see overall impact during some time.
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It's not extraordinary I personally didn't understand this sentence: "AND GIVE YOU THE CREATE NAME FILES".
g_seva said:
It's not extraordinary I personally didn't understand this sentence: "AND GIVE YOU THE CREATE NAME FILES".
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Of course, I understand You and i didn't mean or wish to be disrespectful or patronizing.
Yes me neither, but some small knowledge in programming and electrical engineering gives You enough "background" to understand what was actually writer intentions .
This is not something extraordinary, exceptional or special but if it gives you some small pleasure in using Your phone, then why not .
Thanks
May I know where is the option to activate 2 cpu cores for camera like you said?
darthkir said:
May I know where is the option to activate 2 cpu cores for camera like you said?
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Here it is!
I'm sorry it's not two CPU cores it's even better, it's parallel processing!
Jehonan said:
Here it is!
I'm sorry it's not two CPU cores it's even better, it's parallel processing!
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This option isnt there :/ Miroom 9.11.14
moep1234 said:
This option isnt there :/ Miroom 9.11.14
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Then You have give the answer to yourself.
I'm talking about latest stable EEA MIUI11 ROM v.11.0.5.0, Android 10 based, and Camera app which came within this ROM.
Here it is!
Seems to work in ANXCam 156, too.
App 3.0
CAMERA
AND GIVE YOU THE CREATE NAME FILES
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Can someone explain what is Dual SAT Camera, Turn on MFNR and Turn on SR ?
And what is anti banding for ?
What does turn on dual camera does ?
faizanjunani said:
Can someone explain what is Dual SAT Camera, Turn on MFNR and Turn on SR ?
And what is anti banding for ?
What does turn on dual camera does ?
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MFNR => Multi-frame noise reduction
SR=> automatic scene optimization
Dual SAT => camera takes picture with dual camera and then combines them in one picture (every camera shoot's in her best optical range)
Anti banding option is i believe to remove bands caused from power lines (lights) and freq. in which they operate (60 Hz, 50 Hz or auto)
Jehonan said:
MFNR => Multi-frame noise reduction
SR=> automatic scene optimization
Dual SAT => camera takes picture with dual camera and then combines them in one picture (every camera shoot's in her best optical range)
Anti banding option is i believe to remove bands caused from power lines (lights) and freq. in which they operate (60 Hz, 50 Hz or auto)
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Thanks alot @Jehonan
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faizanjunani said:
Thanks alot @Jehonan
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Anytime :highfive:
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androidlab99 said:
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Just as I have been wrought in previous post on beginning of this thread it's "Extended touch-to-focus timeout" function if I have been translated this correctly on some on-line translation service.
Why they didn't translate this and include as visible option is beyond my knowledge but I can assume that's somehow connected with certain instability or specific issues during day to day work or using camera itself.

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