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Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
I switched from LG G2 to Nexus 5X, which is very close to a G4 under hood.
I don't regret it. A very good phone for under 300$ and always up to date. Google promised updates the next two years. So that the 5X will get the follower of N next year. The daily usage performance is significantly better than the G2.
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The LG smartphones are becoming increasingly developer unfriendly. For example, the LG G4 AT&T and US991 version still have locked bootloaders. I switched to Nexus 5X, and it seems fine. It's a great value right now because US-based vendors are selling the 5X with 32GB for under 250USD on ebay. I guess it's part of the clearance for the next generation model. The deals on the unlocked Motorola X Pure and the new Moto G4 are also looking good. In general, I don't think I'll ever want to buy a carrier-locked, carrier-branded smartphone again. It's just not worth the trouble.
PS: the old LG G2 also continues running strong..
I myself am patiently waiting on the ZTE Axon 7.
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The LG smartphones are becoming increasingly developer unfriendly. For example, the LG G4 AT&T and US991 version still have locked bootloaders. I switched to Nexus 5X, and it seems fine. It's a great value right now because US-based vendors are selling the 5X with 32GB for under 250USD on ebay. I guess it's part of the clearance for the next generation model. The deals on the unlocked Motorola X Pure and the new Moto G4 are also looking good. In general, I don't think I'll ever want to buy a carrier-locked, carrier-branded smartphone again. It's just not worth the trouble.
PS: the old LG G2 also continues running strong..
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Thanks for your promp replys. I see the Nexus 5X is a hit, I have looked at that one. Why dont they like putting SD card slots on phones anymore?? I dont understand why tey are abandoning that simple luxury. What are some other runner ups with these devices? Are any of the Motorola Droids that good? I want to have the same if not better RAM, and Processors as my G2. I fairly bigger screen would be nice. They pop out so many different models of phones a year its hard to keep track of them anymore!
T-Mobile unlocked G4 on eBay is always around $180 for new other or refurbished condition.
Hardware wise, G4 is way better than 5X.
Personally I would said g4 or moto x pure are better choice.
N5X has very good software development. But the lower ram, the lousy camera, 1080p display, lack of SD card, plastic construction, poor sound output make it a meh phone.
It is the most dispointng Nexus phone ever...
laofan said:
T-Mobile unlocked G4 on eBay is always around $180 for new other or refurbished condition.
Hardware wise, G4 is way better than 5X.
Personally I would said g4 or moto x pure are better choice.
N5X has very good software development. But the lower ram, the lousy camera, 1080p display, lack of SD card, plastic construction, poor sound output make it a meh phone.
It is the most dispointng Nexus phone ever...
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I know their is a difference between my G2 (VS980 Variant) and and all the others, like the cases have to be special. Verizon hides the hidden service menu and, its like the GSM versions AT&T+T-Mobile, and even Sprint's LS980, are all different then the Verizon VS980 ....If i were to get G4, what variant would you sugget? Is Verizon different on it too? I use a Verizon SIM from straight talk but I would consider switching to AT&T because even without getting throttled I hear the Verizon caps HIGH SPEED as well..... Would CDMA Verizon sim work on a AT&T variant G4?
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Thanks for your promp replys. I see the Nexus 5X is a hit, I have looked at that one. Why dont they like putting SD card slots on phones anymore?? I dont understand why tey are abandoning that simple luxury.
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Isn't the answer very obvious? The entire industry, the Googles, the Apples, the Verizons, and the Hollywoods of the world don't want you to have much local storage so that you just pay more for bandwidth and for cloud storage. They want you to store all backups on the cloud. They want you to save and the access all your pictures and videos from the cloud. Besides, having less storage means it's gonna be less likely that you will get the movies and TV shows off bittorrent in order to watch it on your phone or tablet. Having said that, 32GB of storage is fine for my needs on a smartphone. Maybe somewhat tight, but still fine. Although I do see the appeal of more storage. I have a 40GB of music in compressed format, and it would certainly be nice to have it all on my phone.
What are some other runner ups with these devices? Are any of the Motorola Droids that good? I want to have the same if not better RAM, and Processors as my G2. I fairly bigger screen would be nice. They pop out so many different models of phones a year its hard to keep track of them anymore!
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There are good deals on the 2015 Motorola X Pure, which is the same generation device as Nexus 5X, but with more RAM, bigger screen, and storage card slot. There are good sales on those. Even brick and mortar stores are selling them for under 300USD right now. On the con side, I read in a few reviews that Moto X Pure has below average screen brightness and poor battery life. The other day I saw a Moto X Pure side by side with Moto G, and the Moto X Pure had noticeably dimmer screen. I even set its brightness to the max, and it still looked dimmer than Moto G (2015). The screen looked good for indoor use, but poor for outdoors. And so I thought I'd rather have better screen and battery life and went for the 5X.
Also, interesting deals can be had on the Oneplus smartphones. The original Oneplus One smartphone is still a great smartphone is still sells new for 250USD for the 64GB version. It is based on the proven Snapdragon 801 SoC and has very good battery life. I recommended Oneplus One to everyone I know, and by today's standards it's still pretty much a perfect smartphone. The latest Oneplus 3 is also a great value, even at 400USD, but both don't have a storage card slot. The Oneplus 3 uses the Snapdragon 820 SoC (also used in LG G5) which is massively faster than the SD800-810 used in LG G2 through G4 (as well as any Nexus smartphone up to this date).
The new Moto G are also fine budget phones and have great features, but it's ridiculous that they have SoC that by most measures is still slower than the Snapdragon 800/801 we got in LG G2 and G3 years ago. The entry level Snapdragon SoCs are still kinda poor. I am wondering when Snapdragon creates a budget SoC based on the 820 family.
Why not just upgrade to Oneplus 3?
At least here in Europe (Lithuania)
5x - 250 euro
G4 - 360 euro
Moto Style - 380 euro
Oneplus 3 - 400 euro.
I think it's the current wisest choise to upgrade from LG G2.
I'm still hanging on my G2, just because I don't want to sell it for pennies..
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Why not just upgrade to Oneplus 3?
At least here in Europe (Lithuania)
5x - 250 euro
G4 - 360 euro
Moto Style - 380 euro
Oneplus 3 - 400 euro.
I think it's the current wisest choise to upgrade from LG G2.
I'm still hanging on my G2, just because I don't want to sell it for pennies..
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U. S. Prices of these phones are different than Euro , especially when one could find good deals on eBay.
For example, like new G4 is $180 , while 5x is $200 or more...
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I know their is a difference between my G2 (VS980 Variant) and and all the others, like the cases have to be special. Verizon hides the hidden service menu and, its like the GSM versions AT&T+T-Mobile, and even Sprint's LS980, are all different then the Verizon VS980 ....If i were to get G4, what variant would you sugget? Is Verizon different on it too? I use a Verizon SIM from straight talk but I would consider switching to AT&T because even without getting throttled I hear the Verizon caps HIGH SPEED as well..... Would CDMA Verizon sim work on a AT&T variant G4?
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I assume you are using straight talk. Straight talk uses both Verizon tower or AT&T tower. You need to call straight talk to find out if your local area is using Verizon or AT&T tower.
For straight talk, I believe Verizon sim won't work on a AT&T/tmobile G4. But a AT&T sim would work on both Verizon g4 or AT&T/Tmobile g4.
So you need to ask your carrier, straight talk, to decide which version of g4 you want to buy.
And if rom development is important to you, you would also want to check the G4 forum to see which variant of g4 has unlocked bootloader.
Some early patches of G4 suffers bootloop. If you decide on buying g4, make sure they are manufactured in late 2015 or later.
The G2 will be my last Android device for a while, im done with the way OEMs update software. Apple, here I go
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The G2 will be my last Android device for a while, im done with the way OEMs update software. Apple, here I go
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I could never switch to the dark side of Apple. I have an iphone 4 i got given to me, and ive never even turned it on yet. Its in the drawer with an LG volt, Galaxy Tab 4, Nokia Lumia Windows 8.1 , UMX, Visual Land Prestige Elite 8 tablet, Galaxy S3, ZTE Reef, Kindle Fire HD 7, some more random devices, and soon to be a LG G2. But I will buy a new digitizer and fix the G2.....
I really dont have the $300+ at the moment to throw on a new phone, the wife wants an LG Stylo of sorts for her Virgin Mobile service, and its her birthday in oh crap 3 days haha So I have to really get on it here. I dont want to get a G3 even tho they are so cheap, But only used G4's are under $200.... Ive looked at so many phones this week its crazy. I just cant pull the trigger, I keep doing a loop. I get pulled tword he G4, then look at the prices, and see everyones Bootloops, and Screen problems, and i get leary, So i check out the phones mentioned, and I like them, then the price pushes me back the G4 and it repeats all over again...
Im gonna have to fork out the cash or settle for something less... Its such a heard decision....
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I could never switch to the dark side of Apple. I have an iphone 4 i got given to me, and ive never even turned it on yet. Its in the drawer with an LG volt, Galaxy Tab 4, Nokia Lumia Windows 8.1 , UMX, Visual Land Prestige Elite 8 tablet, Galaxy S3, ZTE Reef, Kindle Fire HD 7, some more random devices, and soon to be a LG G2. But I will buy a new digitizer and fix the G2.....
I really dont have the $300+ at the moment to throw on a new phone, the wife wants an LG Stylo of sorts for her Virgin Mobile service, and its her birthday in oh crap 3 days haha So I have to really get on it here. I dont want to get a G3 even tho they are so cheap, But only used G4's are under $200.... Ive looked at so many phones this week its crazy. I just cant pull the trigger, I keep doing a loop. I get pulled tword he G4, then look at the prices, and see everyones Bootloops, and Screen problems, and i get leary, So i check out the phones mentioned, and I like them, then the price pushes me back the G4 and it repeats all over again...
Im gonna have to fork out the cash or settle for something less... Its such a heard decision....
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What about nexus 6p? is it expensive where you live?
I wouldn't buy the G3, its a freaking G2 with QHD. And I've never had a G4 in my hands, but I just wouldn't buy another LG phone. I feel like the G2 was the best phone by them, after that, they are just creating crap.
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What about nexus 6p? is it expensive where you live?
I wouldn't buy the G3, its a freaking G2 with QHD. And I've never had a G4 in my hands, but I just wouldn't buy another LG phone. I feel like the G2 was the best phone by them, after that, they are just creating crap.
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I will use the internet to buy the device, All of my considerations are close to $300, the Moto X Prime, Nexus 6P, Oneplus 3, ect... I guess ill have to fork out the extra or lower my expectations. I hate to spend that much on a phone without any type of insurance, and I dont want a piece of junk either.... I have such hard times making decisions like this. I turn it into such a big deal for some reason. ha
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Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
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Does BLU make a phone with these good of specs? Ive seen their name quite a bit lately.
Let me piggyback onto this thread (or I could make a separate one if you guys think is best) I'm in the same situation and I'm going crazy looking at online reviews and comparing numbers that never match. My conundrum to see if my thoughts might help you somehow (and if someone can help in the process.)
1. I bought this phone refurbished and as an emergency after drowning my last one in the ocean. I had never heard about it and wasn't even aware LG made flagship phones - it wasn't popular here in Portugal, I think it even sold just under the 16MB variant or at least I never saw a 32GB.
2. I like the very compact size (still the best screen to body ratio, I think?)
3. That it is plastic. Phones fall from time to time, I fail to see what's so great about a full glass phone. Paying a premium to stick in a case after.
4. UI isn't pretty, I think the camera has ultra agressive post-processing that hurts pictures, no more official updates but battery life used to be so good it made up for everything.
Currently my screen is also going, sometimes it doesn't respond to the touch, coating is gone so it's always a mess, brightness seems very poor. Phone heats up a lot, something I never noticed before. Battery drains almost 1% per per minute. Tried different ROMs, factory resetting, nothing solves anything. I think it's dead.
I have been looking at new phones and this is my list wit my pros and cons (AFAICT):
1: Oneplus 3 - Battery life doesn't seem as good as the G2, especially with web browsing. Heard somewhere wifi reception thingy isn't great and it's a point where they cut corners to make it cheaper. Web browsing and stuff is probably where I need more battery from a phone (GSMA numers: 8:35OP3 VS 11:42G2)
2. Xiaomi Mi5: Great size, good price, hard to get. Almost the only SD820 I've seen with as good or better battery life numbers than the G2 (I'll talk about the S7 latter). Never handled one, don't know what to think about the UI, afraid to get it from some store that will plague it with malware.
3. Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos): I know it's a safe purchase and probably the best allrounder. But it's expensive. Batery life worst than on the G2 except on video playback (which I don't use).
4. S7 Edge (Exynos): Too big IMO, ridiculously expensive but they say it has a terrific battery life. Yes, it beats the G2 but not by much, just kills it on video playback which isn't something I usually use.
5. Sony Experia Z5: Prices dropped a lot. Pretty but bulky. Has the SD810 MkII which doesn't heat up as much but still runs hot. Battery life seems better than the G2 on web browsing (14:35) but somehow I don't trust those numbers. Phone has way worst numbers overall.
6: Huawei P9: Lovely and perfect size for me. Great screen. Kirin SoC seems to run smoother and cooler than the SD. Battery life is worst. Same problem with Xiamoni's UI, it's an IOS-ised Android. Not necessarly a bad thing.
7: Xiaomi Redmi Note Pro SD650: Benchmarks tells us this SOC is slightly faster than last year 's top of the range 810. Some people say that's baloney. It's too big IMO but not ridiculously big. 4000mah battery that should outperforme every other phone on this list. It's dirty cheap. Same problems as with the Mi5 when it comes to buying one and where from, UI and I don't know what the glass is and if it's scatch resitant. Some poeple say it's Dragontail, the stuff Sony uses and the Japanese equivalent to Corning Gorilla glass. But Xiaomi doesn't say anything about it, or I haven't found it. Something that maybe could be sorted with a tempered glass screen but that sort of sucks IMO.
8: LG G4: Battery life is pants.
9: LG G5: Battery life is pants, the modulat thing just makes it a bulkier, more fragile phone.
10: HTC10: For the price, it is a joke. Hurts me to say it as a former fan of HTC.
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So, do I really even need one of these new phones? I rarely use the camera, don't care for fingerprint readers, no need for VR and QHD screens, 5.5 sizes are already beyond my sweet spot, not sure if I care about the latest Android thing. Tried Marshmallow on CM version, hated it.
I think I would need a newer phone if apps etc just start too become to demanding and bringing the great battery life of the G2 down.
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Maybe just buying a brand new G2? I mean, if my battery and screen weren't dying, I wouldn't even be looking at this matter. Not easy finding a new one though. Could get a Korean version with removable battery and SD card slot but have to investigate further into it, not sure what the differences are to the international version.
Two questions about this... do phone batteries go bad without being used on a 3 years old phone? Could part of the battery drain I'm experiencing also be the result of times moving forward and now having apps and stuff that use a lot more wifi, data, gps?
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Yes, I know it's a long post, lot's of questions... sorry!! Just shows you how confused I am.
robles4242 said:
Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
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I've been using G2's for about 2 yrs now; 1st a VS980 (vzw), then T-mobile D801, now on AT&T since I moved. Both rooted + TWRP.
Before researching too much,I picked up a G4 factory refurbished AT&T, in like new condition, which I am planning to sell. Want external memory. Replaceable battery is a plus. After getting it, I find out that the bootloader is locked down hard. Rootable by flashing back to lollipop or earlier, but no real hope for TWRP. Would love it if it were easier to 0wn (root/unlock BL), as it seems to be a great device, with good battery life, which would probably jjust get better with a custom ROM & kernel.
There only seem to be about two G4 variants that can be bootloader unlocked, t-mo H811 and international H815. Maybe one or two others? F500, H810PR?
So I'm going with a G3 VS985, (vzw) to try out Total Wireless (uses vzw infrastructure) as carrier, since AT&T data signal is marginal in my area. The nice thing about the LG vzw G series variants are that they can serve as CDMA or GSM.
Buying from swappa.com seems to be a little better bet than eBay for guarantee against buying someone else's problem, as has happened to me once or twice in the past.
Jury is still out on it, as I am still waiting for the G3.
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From what I've seen one could expect almost half the battery life from a G2. Some people claim stand-by and SOT that I never ever got from any smartphone. What sort of times are you getting?
I was referring to the G4 there, which is newly refurbished with new battery, I believe. However, my G2's have always been pretty good as well, although I am starting to notice that the battery charge life is starting to fall off, which is not surprising since I've been using it for about a year and a half now, and I bought it as a refurb.
Have always run Cloudy G3 (ported for G2) which AFAIK has a custom kernel (Cloudy kernel) which I believe has helped out. Never really had any trouble getting through the entire day, but don't run the screen with more brightness than needed. SOT has always been good, usually at least 4hrs. If I know that I'm going to push it more than that I bring along a portable battery charger. There are some good ones sold on eBay of 10,000+ mah which priced around $15.
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I was referring to the G4 there, which is newly refurbished with new battery, I believe. However, my G2's have always been pretty good as well, although I am starting to notice that the battery charge life is starting to fall off, which is not surprising since I've been using it for about a year and a half now, and I bought it as a refurb.
Have always run Cloudy G3 (ported for G2) which AFAIK has a custom kernel (Cloudy kernel) which I believe has helped out. Never really had any trouble getting through the entire day, but don't run the screen with more brightness than needed. SOT has always been good, usually at least 4hrs. If I know that I'm going to push it more than that I bring along a portable battery charger. There are some good ones sold on eBay of 10,000+ mah which priced around $15.
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My G2 drains about 1% per per minute with the screen on, so now is basically like a tinny laptop, have to carry the charger around with me all the time. CM13 and Cloudy didn't help at all, it's just gone.
Still on the G4, I'm just coming from the G4 subforum... major issues with that phone, aparently a lot of them have a faulty motherboard and there is a huge possibility the phone will die in less than a year. http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-admits-g4-bootloop-problem-hardware-fault-669603/
I'm currently looking at this one, I've been interested on it since it was announced. http://www.alcatelonetouch.us/idol-4s-5-inch-vr-smartphone
$350 is just an insane bargain and it's probably a better phone than the OP3, even with the slightly less powerful SD650. I would end my search for a new phone if I could find the same deal here in Europe but so far I'm seeing it selling fro over €400 which is a major difference. For €50 or €60 more one can already get a brand new S7 which is meh but we know is a solid phone on all camps.
I used my Jump on TMobile to trade in my V20 for a pre-launch S8+. Anyone else going that route?
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I used my Jump on TMobile to trade in my V20 for a pre-launch S8+. Anyone else going that route?
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i plan to order on the 15th or so
Don't think us Verizon folks have that option without paying off the device in full..
nope, not interested in any device with no hifi dac
though the new galaxy looks very nice!
Although the galaxy 8 seems very promising I rather not get into their ecosystem. I'm happy with v20, I'll wait to see what v30 will offer.
Nope. Not going back to horrendous samsung sound, screen burn like you read about and no odin or root likely.
no way in hell.
- bumped the price *higher* than the iPhone
- Samsung made no comment or commitment when it comes to battery life which makes you wonder why they wouldn't
- supposedly the phones are more bloated than ever with Samsung crapware
- runs 1080p out the gate (something that hasn't happened since the s5)
I too will wait for the v30 or note 8 whichever looks better. I'll stick with the v30 if the battery remains removable or I will switch to the note 8 if they go non removable.
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Waiting for the V30 also interested in what HTC may have. Still haven't decided yet and I have quite a while as I can't jump till like November anyways. So honestly at this point none of the new devices matter to me as I'm quite happy with my device.
I have no interest in 2:1 aspect ratio.
9:16 or 10:16 is OK.
2:1 is too narrow.
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I have no interest in 2:1 aspect ratio.
9:16 or 10:16 is OK.
2:1 is too narrow.
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yeah, and that too! :good:
Waterproofing is cool but i would much rather have the removable battery. I use my phone as a tool for work and i have never had luck with just a stock battery. My V20 with the Hyperion extended battery i'm at 50% by the time i get home. i don't have to worry about trying to charge it if i want to go out. My nexus 6p was my only attempt at a non removable battery. Never again unless the battery is 6000mAh+
I would love to - I had a Note 7 and traded in for this pos...but I'm going to wait for the Note 8.
I hate this phone, it barely passes for my daily driver... but its still unfortunately the best alternative right now for various reasons.
I'm continually amazed at how some people like this phone compared to the Pixel or any of the Sammy line.
LOL I had a V10 which I traded for the Note 7 and then another Note 7 and then an S7 edge. I could not wait to get back to LG and I love my V20. It is way better then the Samsung's, can't wait to see what the V30 brings.
I've already placed my JoD preorder for Orchid Gray
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Waterproofing is cool but i would much rather have the removable battery. I use my phone as a tool for work and i have never had luck with just a stock battery. My V20 with the Hyperion extended battery i'm at 50% by the time i get home. i don't have to worry about trying to charge it if i want to go out. My nexus 6p was my only attempt at a non removable battery. Never again unless the battery is 6000mAh+
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But i still dont know why is it so hard to create a device waterproof with removable battery. Samsung itself created one and new the have messed up so much! (talking about the galaxy s5 ). That just proof that it is possible to create a device with removable battery and waterproofing at the same time.
I was really expecting a huge deal with the s8. Kind of another small step. You know its gonna be locked down tight too. Better camera, little faster, still 4 gb ram. I don't see the benefits vs the cost over the v20 or the s7. Bixby? Already been done. There will be 10 phones out this year as good as this. This is just the first.
My jump is from AT&T to T Mobile. AT&T only offered to give me $190 (they had the highest selling price for the V20 of $829.99). What a drop off in price! T mobile offered only $100 per AT&T branded V20 (of which we have 2). We decided to keep our V20s and still go to T mobile (what amonthly savings) to get 2 S8 pluses. Meanwhile we have our AT&T V20s on the T mobile network. The down payment is $130 per S8 plus leading to 24 months at $30 per month to pay the balance.
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My jump is from AT&T to T Mobile. AT&T only offered to give me $190 (they had the highest selling price for the V20 of $829.99). What a drop off in price! T mobile offered only $100 per AT&T branded V20 (of which we have 2). We decided to keep our V20s and still go to T mobile (what amonthly savings) to get 2 S8 pluses. Meanwhile we have our AT&T V20s on the T mobile network. The down payment is $130 per S8 plus leading to 24 months at $30 per month to pay the balance.
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Wow, TMobile is giving me $600 for a trade-in for the V20. Made it worthwhile to trade-in the V20 to the S8+.
You guys should wait for the Note 8. My speculation is that everything they could have put on the S8 is gonna be saved up for the note 8. Hopefully like dual cameras, fingerprint scanner embedded in the screen, s-pen, etc
I'm in Hong Kong over the summer and I can get a V20 for about 250 pounds and g6 for about 300. Do you think it's worth the extra 50 pounds for the g6. And are there bootlooping issues as it was added to the lawsuit.
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I'm in Hong Kong over the summer and I can get a V20 for about 250 pounds and g6 for about 300. Do you think it's worth the extra 50 pounds for the g6. And are there bootlooping issues as it was added to the lawsuit.
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I suggest you go for LG G6. V20 is good but I have seen instances where it is mentioned in boot-loop discussions. Plus, LG G6 has a slightly better processor, better build, better form factor and water proof as well.
Just because the V20 is listed in a lawsuit proves nothing...
Before I bought my phone I did some quick research and I have not found anyone with a V20 having a real bootloop concern.
There are threads like this one (https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-boot-loop-fix-t3629308) that are incorrectly titled (as in this thread) which lead people to that conclusion but by reading the posts they would see that this concern does not exist.
The V20 and G6 are totally different phones. It really boils down to what your wants/needs are.
I picked up both phones a few days ago, the v20 and the g6. My other phone is an OnePlus 3. I decided to buy them based off a couple reasons honestly, T-Mobile offered me $100 off each phone for being with them 10+ years then with the lg promotion currently going on for free mini projector and headset I figured why not. I had wanted the v20 since release and tho it's not the fastest phone out, I knew from using my OnePlus that it will do what I want.
To compare the two, keeping in mind these are T-Mobile variants, the v20 has root where the g6 does not. I knew I wanted root where my wife could care less. Bigger screen overall is another plus for me where she prefers smaller phones. Cameras, to my untrained eye are not much different. The benefit of the g6 would be water resistant and wireless charging, I wish the v20 had ip certification but wireless charging does little for me. As for the boot looping, T-Mobile stands by the manufacturer warranty for a year, any problems like that and they replace it so it's not really a concern to me.
I like both phones, but I also liked my g5 that I previously had given to the wife so obviously it's all a matter of personal preference.
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I picked up both phones a few days ago, the v20 and the g6. My other phone is an OnePlus 3. I decided to buy them based off a couple reasons honestly, T-Mobile offered me $100 off each phone for being with them 10+ years then with the lg promotion currently going on for free mini projector and headset I figured why not. I had wanted the v20 since release and tho it's not the fastest phone out, I knew from using my OnePlus that it will do what I want.
To compare the two, keeping in mind these are T-Mobile variants, the v20 has root where the g6 does not. I knew I wanted root where my wife could care less. Bigger screen overall is another plus for me where she prefers smaller phones. Cameras, to my untrained eye are not much different. The benefit of the g6 would be water resistant and wireless charging, I wish the v20 had ip certification but wireless charging does little for me. As for the boot looping, T-Mobile stands by the manufacturer warranty for a year, any problems like that and they replace it so it's not really a concern to me.
I like both phones, but I also liked my g5 that I previously had given to the wife so obviously it's all a matter of personal preference.
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How you got the $100 off offered from T-Mobile? I've been with them for 10+ years too.
Also I brought couple used T-Mobile V20 which is H918 but both seems start having the boot looping issues that would restart itself 5-6 times a day with normal use, some times even just listening songs with bluetooth at work would restart 2 times in 4 hours... I can't get replacement from T-Mobile since I didn't buy from their store and don't have receipt for LG to warranty although it still made within a year
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How you got the $100 off offered from T-Mobile? I've been with them for 10+ years too.
Also I brought couple used T-Mobile V20 which is H918 but both seems start having the boot looping issues that would restart itself 5-6 times a day with normal use, some times even just listening songs with bluetooth at work would restart 2 times in 4 hours... I can't get replacement from T-Mobile since I didn't buy from their store and don't have receipt for LG to warranty although it still made within a year
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I just called them, asked if that was their best price, rep put me in touch with customer loyalty and they offered me that deal.
I would still call T-Mobile and ask about exchanging the phone, if it's paid off and not tied to someone else's account they will probably do it for you, they have in the past for me when I had purchased a phone from swappa. It's still a T-Mobile variant under the year threshold.. All you can do is explain your situation and ask. If first rep says no, don't be afraid to try again. I've found that often, reps handle things differently from one to another.
Hi everyone,
As I write this the Oneplus 5T launch event is a day away, however the price of the PH-1 (at Telus in Canada) has now dropped to less than the Oneplus.
To those of you who have an Essential Phone .... would you still buy it again, knowing what you do now? Have software updates fixed the negative issues that were reported in initial reviews, especially wrt camera speed? If you were choosing now between the Essential Phone and the Oneplus 5T, which way would you go?
Any advice is appreciated.
I would especially buy it now. With essential seemingly coming around with their promise to be developer friendly, I'm hoping we see more and more developers hopping on board. Seems to me that this thing is just as open as a Pixel.
I would buy one again at the lower price.
I returned mine and got a LG G6.
If I hadn't bought the LG, I'd be buying the PH-1 at the lower price.It is now a bargain.
Seeing as i am beholden to a CDMA carrier (and not leaving anytime soon), and the PH-1 works just fine with my carrier of choice, the OnePlus doesn't register on my radar. Plus i lucked out and got my PH-1 for less than half..
If OnePlus came over to the dark side...
Just gave my One plus 5 away today after going from TMobile to Sprint. One plus feels cheap compared. Also I am a bit bitter the 5t is being released 5 months later.
I had the 6gb variant, no discernable difference, maybe it's me but the blur mode vs portrait mode were similar also. Also feels like OnePlus was in a school yard discussion with the top 3 and decided not to be an flagship killer this year.
With the latest fixes for ph-1, beta Oreo, and reddit feedback I'd say it's a home run at current price point.. plus f&f gets it for 300$.. hard to pass up
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I'm thinking about this question as well. Oneplus 5T looks like Oppo R11 which I don't like. But essentail is not offical sell in China, which means I can't get warranty if I buy from Amazon US or somewhere.:crying:
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I would buy one again at the lower price.
I returned mine and got a LG G6.
If I hadn't bought the LG, I'd be buying the PH-1 at the lower price.It is now a bargain.
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Had the G6/S7 nice phones but returned them and got the Essential and have not looked back.
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Seeing as i am beholden to a CDMA carrier (and not leaving anytime soon), and the PH-1 works just fine with my carrier of choice, the OnePlus doesn't register on my radar. Plus i lucked out and got my PH-1 for less than half..
If OnePlus came over to the dark side...
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Yep.
I wish I could have gottem a PH-1 for the $450 when I bought it.
The original price was just oo high for the initial issues. At $450 it's the bargain of the year.
I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon around here.
I started out with GTE MobilNet. No, old jokes please.
Anyway, I'm not interested in any phone that's not fully compatible with Verizon and fully unlocked.
No.
I like OnePlus phones, bought the One back in 2014, amazing phone, my brother was using it this year until he broke it a few months ago. But, to be honest, I really dont like what OnePlus is doing as a company for the las few years, like put out "flagships" every 6 months, giving up support for older devices, waaaaay more marketing that is a factor to the increased price of their phones. I am sure the 5T is a great device, and it is what the 5 should have been in the begining, but coming out just a few months after the 5 is kick in the nuts to their loyal and enthusiast clients, and thats the second time they do it.
I really hated the chassis of my OnePlus 5. The edges are very rounded so it's a lot more slippery than the essential. I also didn't like how wide the phone was, making it uncomfortable to hold for long periods of time. Essential feels like it's the perfect size, and for ergonomics alone, I wouldn't go back to OnePlus (although their software is WAY better than essential's at the moment, I'm banking on essential improving).
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Yep.
I wish I sould have gottem a PH-1 for the $450 when I bought it.
The original orice was just oo high for the initial issues. At $450 it's the bargain of the year.
I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon around here.
I started out with GTE MobilNet. No, old jokes please.
Anyway, I'm not interested in any phone that's not fully compatible with Verizon and fully unlocked.
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I remember the old GTE, Bell South, Bell Atlantic days, yep..
Not to gloat, but when I said I got my PH-1 for less than half, I literally meant less than half. Lucked out and got it for literally 225 out the door. :laugh: (17 years and counting better count for something).
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I remember the old GTE, Bell South, Bell Atlantic days, yep..
Not to gloat, but when I said I got my PH-1 for less than half, I literally meant less than half. Lucked out and got it for literally 225 out the door. :laugh: (17 years and counting better count for something).
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I got mine for $150 :silly:
All you sprint users...Lucky's
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I just got mine on Thursday, the pure white edition. The guy that I traded with added $250 in cash on top for my TMobile note 8 which I was bored to death with it. I'm really liking the essential phone.
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All you sprint users...Lucky's
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You can do it too! Buy 5 lines, get phone and pay it off, wait up to 48 hours, and then pay it off, finally cancel the lines. Sell as unlocked on swappa for $400 a piece. Profit $250 per phone!
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You can do it too! Buy 5 lines, get phone and pay it off, wait up to 48 hours, and then pay it off, finally cancel the lines. Sell as unlocked on swappa for $400 a piece. Profit $150 per phone!
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Awesome deal.. to bad its not on their prepay..
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I would of been happy with the essential except the screen is horrible selling it and i already ordered an unlock G6
I ordered one from Telus Canada few days back and I'm gonna trust Essential to come good!
I've handled the phone and is a solid device, plus I trust Andy Rubin!
I say go for it and buy one!
Okay, so I've got a bit of a twist for you guys: first off, does the 5/5t not work on Sprint? I thought it was compatible... Second, I'm looking to upgrade my iPhone 6s, and am torn between the OnePlus 5t, Essential phone, and iPhone 8. I've heard bad things about the software on the essential phone. How bad is performance and camera really? I left Android because I couldn't stand how unusable my s7 became and don't want to go back to that
I was trying to sell one pixel 2 xl on swappa and the prices are going crazy low. How are all these people selling new 128 GB for just $700ish range ? The phone isn't really that old yet.
Verizon's running a $300 off on it.
I'm noticing the same thing. I considered selling my 2 XL and picking up a OnePlus 5T. When I took a look at pricing on SWAPPA I was very surprised to see the current prices people are selling the phone for. Previously, the Nexus/Pixel line-up held their value much better than what I'm seeing with the current 2 XL. It's sad but I think it can be chalked up to all the bad publicity this phone keeps receiving. Talk of these issues is seemingly more widespread than I thought.
For instance, on Christmas day a family member was checking out my phone and even though he is not a tech guy by any means, even he brought up the screen burn-in issues as well as the speaker buzzing noise issues. It threw me off, to be honest. Especially considering that this is a guy who never researches phones and has stuck with the Galaxy phone line-up simply because I recommended it to him like 3 years ago.
There is a reason why both Google and the carriers have already dropped the price. It sucks and it's directly affecting resale value.
On the plus side, I've experienced no issues with my device and it's the best phone I've ever owned. So this is just a good nudge for me to hold onto it and enjoy it longer, rather than making a jump to something else and inevitably regretting it.
Add to this, the starting prices were up there with the iPhone X and Samsung Note 8! Previously Nexus phones were a good bit cheaper than the highest premium phones...this is why they were able to hold value longer.
True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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As for last year you really can't compare, unfortunately. Google didn't give 5 cents off the Pixel or the XL even on black Friday. Verizon had one day, and that was BF, that they gave a tremendous deal of $10 / month and $15 for the XL for 24 months. That was it! Eventually they had a lame trade in deal but nothing from Google. This year is way different. There is really no reason to be spending more than 4 or 5 hundred for any of the devices with trade in at Google and VZW. I mean I believe that VZW even has a $300 off with no trade in! But then you're locked into them for 2 years and no bl unlock. So I believe that the price will not drop past the 6 or 7 number for some time. But I've been wrong once or twice..
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
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Oh man the LG phone software dept is need of a revamp. It has been awful! I had a G4, G5, & G6 and literally could only use for a few days it was so bad!
I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
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Yeah you should try the s8 or note 8. They are extremely fluid compared to the pixel not quite as fluid but very very close. Also the extra ram in note is helpful especially with the kitchen sink approach
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I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
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I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Why are you against the note? Lol
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Why are you against the note? Lol
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Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
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Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
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I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
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If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
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I mean I don't travel on the road but I love almost everything about phone except just slightly too tall and fingerprint sensor placement. I use pen to keep screen clean if hands are dirty etc
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